Red = Orophear
Green = Lilianne.

Have fun! Hajime!

Previously prepped spell: Mage Armor, extended to 12hrs duration.

Prep Round 1:
  [Free]
  [Move] Draw Longbow
  [Standard] Cast Mirror Images (7)

Prep Round 2:
  [Free]
  [Move] Draw wand
  [Standard] Cast Summon Monster III from wand (full round action)

Status:
  Initiative: 18
  AC (Touch AC): 15 (11)

  Damage Taken: 0
  Damage Dealt: 0

Effects:
  Mage Armor (12hrs)
  Mirror Images (6 minutes) - [7 images left, 1in8 chance to actually target the real Lilianne]

Final Position: X14

Prep Round 1:
  [Move]
  [Free]
  [Standard] Cast Bull's Strength

Prep Round 2:
  [Move]
  [Free] Draw Bow
  [Standard]

Status:
  Initiative: 6 (every friggin time!)
  AC (Touch AC): 20 (14)

  Damage Taken:
  Damage Dealt:

Effects:
    Bulls Strength: +4 to str for 5 minutes

Final Position: B14
This message was last edited by the player at 19:31, Thu 24 Apr 2008.

ooc: Bull's strength is +4 to Strength, not +3 :-)

Actually it's 1d4+1 in 3.5 edition. I'll take the +4 though if you're giving it away :)

Know your spells!

I stand corrected, but no need to get snotty about it. Last time I checked it was 1d4+1. My bad...

Round 1:
  [Free]
  [Move]
  [Standard] Cast Summon Monster III*, 3 fiendisch wolves appear.

Status:
  Initiative: 18
  AC (Touch AC): 15 (11)

  Damage Taken: 0
  Damage Dealt: 0

Effects:
  Mage Armor (2hrs)
  Mirror Images (6 minutes) - [7 images left, 1in8 chance to actually target the real Lilianne]
  3 fiendisch wolves (10rds)
  1 Celestial Hippogriff appears (from wand) (5rds)

Final Position: X14

* = Feats used: Sudden Maximize (1d3 = 3 monsters), Augment Summoning (Monsters have +4 to con and strength), Rapid Summoning (Summon Monster becomes a standard action), Extended (doubles duration)
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Celestial Hippogriff: Appears in U19 (5rds)
Size/Type:  Large Magical Beast
Hit Dice: 3d10+9 (25+6 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 50 ft. (10 squares), fly 100 ft. (average)
Armor Class: 15 (-1 size, +2 Dex, +4 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 13

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Fiendish Wolves (3) appear in V18, V19, V20

Size/Type:  Medium Animal
Hit Dice: 2d8+4 (13+4 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 50 ft. (10 squares)
Armor Class: 14 (+2 Dex, +2 natural), touch 12, flat-footed 12

OOC:I am SO screwed! I think I may have bitten off more than I can chew.

Round 1:
  [Move] Move 20'
  [Free] Whimper for my mommy
  [Standard]

Status:
  Initiative: 6
  AC (Touch AC): 20 (14)

  Damage Taken:
  Damage Dealt:

Effects:
    Bulls Strength: +4 to str for 5 minutes

Final Position: C17

Round 2: I took the liberty to make an updated map, this will avoid confusion for both of us.

  [Free]
  [Move] X17
  [Standard] Cast Haste on the 4 summoned monsters and herself.

Status:
  Initiative: 19
  AC (Touch AC): 16 (12)

  Damage Taken: 0
  Damage Dealt: 0

Effects:
  Mage Armor (2hrs)
  Mirror Images (6 minutes) - [7 images left, 1in8 chance to actually target the real Lilianne]
  Haste (5rds)
  3 fiendisch wolves (09rds)
  1 Celestial Hippogriff (from wand) (04rds)

Final Position: X17

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Celestial Hippogriff (HG), hasted, (4rds)

  [Free] *whinnies*
  [Move]  D17/18 / 5ft off the ground
  [Standard] Attack 20*, damage 10pts
             * = forgot +1  from haste.

Size/Type:  Large Magical Beast
Hit Dice: 3d10+9 (25+6 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 50+30 ft. (10+6 squares), fly 100 ft. (average)
Armor Class: 16 (-1 size, +2 Dex, +4 natural, +1 haste), touch 12, flat-footed 13

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Fiendish Wolves (3), hasted

Wolf1 (W1) - 17hps
  [Free] *howls*
  [Move] H16
  [Standard] none

Wolf2 (W2) - 17HPs
  [Free] *howls*
  [Move]  I16
  [Standard] none

Wolf3 (W3) - 17HPs
  [Free] *howls*
  [Move] H25
  [Standard] none

Size/Type:  Medium Animal
Hit Dice: 2d8+4 (13+4 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 50+30 ft. (10+6 squares)
Armor Class: 15 (+2 Dex, +2 natural, +1 haste), touch 13, flat-footed 12

ooc: Sorry, I didn't mean to come over snotty, but you made a similar mistake with the same spell in Arlessana's fight, so I had expected you verified your memory. Honestly: I typically check the details of a spell twice, even if I've known it by heart for years. Best example Summon Monster. I was convinced I'd get 1d4+1 monsters of a lower level list. Actually it is 1d3 but 1d4+1 from a list TWO levels lower. This mistake would have given me an (unwanted) advantage over you. It would be unfair. Hence I am extremely picky with spell details, I want to win fair, but I also want to know my opponent does the same (that doesn't mean you did it intentionally, it is more a precision thing).

I use the online srd: http://www.d20srd.org/

It has great features and is easy to navigate. Bookmark the page, or save the url into your scratchpad and you have it available from everywhere. :)

Round 2:
  [Move] Move 5'
  [Free] drop bow
  [Standard] cast Shocking Grasp (7 Damage)

Status:
  Initiative: 6
  AC (Touch AC): 20 (14)

  Damage Taken: 10
  Damage Dealt: 7 to Hippogrif

Effects:
    Bulls Strength: +4 to str for 5 minutes

Final Position: C16

Round 3:

  [Free]
  [Move] None
  [Standard] Cast Shield

Status:
  Initiative: 19
  AC (Touch AC): 20 (12)

  Damage Taken: 0
  Damage Dealt: 26

Effects:
  Mage Armor (2hrs)
  Mirror Images (5 minutes) - [7 images left, 1in8 chance to actually target the real Lilianne]
  Haste (4rds)
  3 fiendisch wolves (08rds)
  1 Celestial Hippogriff (from wand) (03rds)

Final Position: X17

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Celestial Hippogriff (HG), hasted, (3rds)

  [Free]
  [Move]  5ft, landing in C17/18
  [Standard] (Full) attack 27, damage 9pts - 11,11,17 - misses.


Size/Type:  Large Magical Beast
Hit Dice: 3d10+9 (29/31 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 50+30 ft. (10+6 squares), fly 100 ft. (average)
Armor Class: 16 (-1 size, +2 Dex, +4 natural, +1 haste), touch 12, flat-footed 13

Due to the celestial template, Res. 5 cold, electricity, acid, it takes only 2hp damage
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Fiendish Wolves (3), hasted

Wolf1 (W1) - 17hps
  [Move] C15
  [Standard] Bite 25, 8pts damage.
  [Free] Trip attempt: Strength check 15.

Info see here:
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/comb...cialAttacks.htm#trip
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/wolf.htm

Wolf2 (W2) - 17HPs
  [Move]  B15 [Causes AoO]
  [Standard] Bite: 20, damage 9pts
  [Free] Trip attempt: Strength check 18

Wolf3 (W3) - 17HPs
  [Free]
  [Move] B17 [Causes AoO]
  [Standard] Bite 9, missed.

Size/Type:  Medium Animal
Hit Dice: 2d8+4 (13+4 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 50+30 ft. (10+6 squares)
Armor Class: 15 (+2 Dex, +2 natural, +1 haste), touch 13, flat-footed 12

Round 3:
  [Move]
  [Free] draw Sword
  [Standard] Attack With Sword
              Attack:28
              Critical Confirm:20
              Damage:22

Status:
  Initiative: 6
  AC (Touch AC): 20 (14)

  Damage Taken: 21
  Damage Dealt: 29 to Hippogrif

Effects:
    Bulls Strength: +4 to str for 5 minutes

Final Position: C16

ooc: You still need to make 2 trip checks vs. DC 15 rsp. 18 or be tripped by the wolves. It is a special ability of wolves to get a free trip attempt if their bite hits.

Side note: The Hippogriff goes up in smoke. I miscalculated its HP, it doesn't get the +6 adding to that, its first attack must have missed because it doesn't get +4 to strength cause it was summoned from the wand.

Thus: Deduct 12pts from your damage taken.

I sure don't have to because I didn't even see they had hit me. With their damage I am dead once again. I don't even know why I bother....

You were not hit last round. No damage. You have been hit three times this round, for 9+8+9 = 26pts. I'm positive your total is higher than 26. Btw: You dealt more in one strike than my three monsters altogether.

What I dont get is why duskblades don't have Shield on their list, that seems essential to a fighter. One of the reasons why I don't play duskblades.

According to this I WAS hit the following round by the Hippogriff.

*sighs* I told you I made a mistake. A summoned hippogriff from the book has a bonus of +6 for a claw attack. +1 in this case from Haste. However, monsters Lilianne summons have +4 Str. Thus I calculated +2 to hit but it was summoned from the wand that doesn't give the creature a +4 to strength.

Because all my other monsters are at +4 Strength I got confused. I was tired, ill, unconcentrated. Ok?

Honestly, I'm ok. I think one more round won't make much difference. I may take out one of your beasties but that's about it. No biggie. Like I said, I bit off more than I can chew. I think Orophear works better with a group anyways. I concede.

As you wish. And I agree, several classes work much better in a group, like Marshal, Dragon Shaman, Clerics. I love Lilianne's flexibility, as a wizard she can chose to play a supportive role one day and a hard-hitter the next, despite not having evocations or enchantments available. In another game I play an ultimate magus who is conjurer/sorceress. The combo even allows to use of evocation wands (as a sorcerer) alothough she loses the 'high-end' spells. In that particular group it makes sense since she is the only arcane user, which makes her flexibility even a must.

If you are looking for a nice alternative you may want to check out the battle sorcerer in UA. While I found it ill suited initially, I realized the potential it gains when you add in the spellshield option from Dungeonscape and Abjurant Champion once you qualify for the PrC (level 7). What I learned is that multiclass characters often work out only once they reach a certain level, then synergies kick in and give them an advantage.