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Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis.

Posted by GM ArkrimFor group 0
Grunyar Fangblood
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Wed 28 Oct 2015
at 14:05
  • msg #44

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis


 ABCDEFGHIJ 
1+5        +51
2TTTT   AAA2
3TTTT   AAA3
4TTTT   AAA4
5TTTT      5
6          6
7+2+2 +2      7
8      EEE 8
9  G+2  EEE 9
10+5  +2  EEE+510
 ABCDEFGHIJ 
<tt>
T = Thraxis's Giant Ankylosaurus
G = Grunyar's Winter Hag
E = Edward's War Bull
A = Ankou's Stegosaurus

ROUND: Round 2 (6)

POSITION:  C9
 ACTIONS: Cast Charm Monster on Anklyosaurus (standard), wait for will save to be resolved to continue

 HP: 85/85
 AC: 20; FFAC: 19; Touch: 11; CMD: 24

 EFFECTS: - pass without trace, see invisibility, breath weapon cool down 0/1
 GEAR: +2 Frost Quarter staff
 USES: - SLA: At will—chill metal (DC 16), detect magic, fog cloud, frostbite, whispering wind
3/day—alter self, 2/3 charm monster (DC 18), invisibility (self only), major image (DC 17)
1/day—cone of cold (DC 19; see ice staff), control weather (windy or cold weather only), wall of ice (DC 18), waves of fatigue

DICE ROLLS: -

SUMMARY: - Hag casts Charm Monster DC 18 on anklyosaurus, holding rest of turn until will save is resolved

OOC: - You get a +5 because I attacked you

Ankou
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Wed 28 Oct 2015
at 14:27
  • msg #45

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis

ooc: ouch... this is going to be a problem.
Thraxis
Expert 838 BP, 267 posts
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Wed 28 Oct 2015
at 15:35
  • msg #46

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis

Rolls:
11:34, Today: Thraxis rolled 16 using 1d20+9 with rolls of 7.  Ankylosaurus will save.


IC-ish: Yes, master?
OOC: Should have labeled it a won't save.
Ankou
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Wed 28 Oct 2015
at 16:10
  • msg #47

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis

ooc: I think the Hag's command will be severely limited by two things. A - means of communication with the dinosaur and B - ability of the dinosaur to comprehend what he's being told...
 Gunyar, I think the only effect of the spell is that Ankyolsaurus cannot attack the Hag (until the Hag herself attacks him)
 If you have an other take on this, let us know.
Edward Doyle Remington III
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Wed 28 Oct 2015
at 17:06
  • msg #48

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis

I expect the hag could make handle animal checks?
Grunyar Fangblood
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Wed 28 Oct 2015
at 19:18
  • msg #49

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis


OOC: Per the spell it is an opposed CHA check so it would be equal to a Handle Animal/Performance check.  My plan was just to tell it to attack one of the other beasts no complicated strategy and it can decide which to attack just not me :).  Any objections?

Thraxis
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Wed 28 Oct 2015
at 19:23
  • msg #50

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis

Handle animal would be the skill to direct a dino, or a speak with animal ability or spell.  The hag doesn't have either and since the dinos don't have tricks, the handle animal DC would be higher than she can hit.  Given a lack of other means to communicate with animals, I think she's limited to being safe from each of us she casts it on.

The Cha check is explicitly to persuade them to do something they wouldn't normally do.  It could only happen once you have a way to communicate.  It would have to attack one of the others (or just defend itself) anyways.
Grunyar Fangblood
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Wed 28 Oct 2015
at 19:47
  • msg #51

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis


OOC: Thats fine, as long he moves on to one of the other beasts.

Grunyar Fangblood
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Wed 28 Oct 2015
at 20:07
  • msg #52

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis

Grunyar Fangblood:
 ABCDEFGHIJ 
1+5        +51
2TTTT   AAA2
3TTTT   AAA3
4TTTT   AAA4
5TTTT      5
6          6
7+2+2 +2      7
8      EEE 8
9   +2  EEE 9
10+5 G+2  EEE+510
 ABCDEFGHIJ 

Grunyar surveys the beasts suprised that they where able to free them selves so fast and points at Thraxis's dino and says "Make him your friend, he can be useful."   The Hag casts a charm on the dino, and proceed to act out her command to the dino.  Unsure that if it understood she did her best only time will tell.
<tt>
T = Thraxis's Giant Ankylosaurus
G = Grunyar's Winter Hag
E = Edward's War Bull
A = Ankou's Stegosaurus

ROUND: Round 2 (6)

POSITION:  C10
 ACTIONS: Cast Charm Monster on Anklyosaurus (standard),act out commands for dino (move?), 5ft step to C10 (free)

 HP: 85/85
 AC: 20; FFAC: 19; Touch: 11; CMD: 24

 EFFECTS: - pass without trace, see invisibility, breath weapon cool down 0/1
 GEAR: +2 Frost Quarter staff
 USES: - SLA: At will—chill metal (DC 16), detect magic, fog cloud, frostbite, whispering wind
3/day—alter self, 2/3 charm monster (DC 18), invisibility (self only), major image (DC 17)
1/day—cone of cold (DC 19; see ice staff), control weather (windy or cold weather only), wall of ice (DC 18), waves of fatigue

DICE ROLLS: -

SUMMARY: - Hag casts Charm Monster DC 18 on anklyosaurus,act out her comands for dino, 5ft step

OOC: - You get a +5 because I attacked you



OOC: I know she can't relay orders thats just for flavor.  Your turn Thraxis.

Thraxis
Expert 838 BP, 269 posts
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Wed 28 Oct 2015
at 20:21
  • msg #53

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis

 ABCDEFGHIJ 
1+5        +51
2       AAA2
3TTTT   AAA3
4TTTT   AAA4
5TTTT      5
6TTTT      6
7+2+2 +2      7
8      EEE 8
9   +2  EEE 9
10+5 G+2  EEE+510
 ABCDEFGHIJ 

T = Thraxis's Giant Ankylosaurus
G = Grunyar's Winter Hag
E = Edward's War Bull
A = Ankou's Stegosaurus

   ROUND: 2 (5 [-1])
POSITION: (A2,D5) to (A3,D6)
 ACTIONS: 5' step to (A3,D6) (free), ready action  (standard), 'talk' (free)


Giant Ankylosaurus,  HP 87/95   http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG...inosaur-ankylosaurus
AC: 23      TAC: 6     FFAC:  23

EFFECTS: Giant Template http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG...sterAdvancement.html (changes included above, not an actual effect but listed here to give a place for the link)
   GEAR: n/a
   USED ABILITIES: n/a

ROLLS:
n/a

SUMMARY: The Ankylosaurus, confused at his friend's attacking it then running away, rumbles up to the hut and lows at its occupant

OOC:  Evil magic!

Edward Doyle Remington III
Expert 698 BP, 302 posts
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Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 01:38
  • msg #54

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis


 ABCDEFGHIJ 
1+5        +51
2       AAA2
3TTTT   AAA3
4TTTT   AAA4
5TTTT      5
6TTTT      6
7+2+2 +2  EEE 7
8      EEE 8
9   +2  EEE 9
10+5 G+2     +510
 ABCDEFGHIJ 

T = Thraxis's Giant Ankylosaurus
G = Grunyar's Winter Hag
E = Edward's War Bull
A = Ankou's Stegosaurus

   ROUND: 2 (3)
POSITION: (G8/I10) to (G7/I9)
 ACTIONS: Move to (G7/I9) (move, might provoke?), attack (standard)


War Bull,  HP 85/85   http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestia...ngs/animals/war-bull
AC: 20      TAC: 9     FFAC:  19

EFFECTS: -
   GEAR: n/a
   USED ABILITIES: n/a

ROLLS:

21:32, Today: Edward Doyle Remington III rolled 19 using 1d20+12 with rolls of 7.  War Bull Power Attack vs Ankylosaurus.

SUMMARY: The War Bull makes a feeble attempt at goring the Ankylosaurus, but fails.

OOC:  Note that I believe you can't take a 5ft step in difficult terrain, though this doesn't really matter in Thraxis's case.
Thraxis
Expert 838 BP, 273 posts
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Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 03:08
  • msg #55

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis


Actions: Attack of Opportunity and Readied attack, which was for the Ankylosaurus to attack anyone who attacked it.

ROLLS:
23:03, Today: Thraxis rolled 17 using 1d20+14 with rolls of 3.  Ankylosaurus Attack of Opportunity on War Bull.
23:03, Today: Thraxis rolled 28 using 1d20+14 with rolls of 14.  Readied action attack vs war bull.
23:03, Today: Thraxis rolled 30 using 4d6+15 with rolls of 3,6,2,4.  Readied action dmg on war bull.

ooc: Yeah, Grunyar pointed out that it would need to use up my move in another thread, which in this case doesn't hurt anything as it was unused. For the interrupt here, War Bull takes 30 and needs to make a DC 25 fort save (23 printed +2 increased str) or be dazed.

Edward Doyle Remington III
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Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 03:20
  • msg #56

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis


23:19, Today: Edward Doyle Remington III rolled 14 using 1d20+10 with rolls of 4.  War Bull fort save.

Curses!
Ankou
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Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 12:29
  • msg #57

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis

 Stegosaurus saw his distant cousin use his tail to stun their common enemy... and he was glad that he was not the one under the heavy keratin flail. This was as good a time as any, and possibly better than most, to come up close with the Ankylosaurus.

 Stegosaurus moved forward, pushing rubble with his feet, and swung with his own tail. It was not as impressive as the one his heavily armoured cousin was sporting, but it did have a certain momentum...

 ABCDEFGHIJ 
1+5   AAA  +51
2    AAA   2
3TTTTAAA   3
4TTTT      4
5TTTT      5
6TTTT      6
7+2+2 +2  EEE 7
8      EEE 8
9   +2  EEE 9
10+5 G+2     +510
 ABCDEFGHIJ 

T = Thraxis's Giant Ankylosaurus
G = Grunyar's Winter Hag
E = Edward's War Bull
A = Ankou's Stegosaurus

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestia...dinosaur/stegosaurus

ROUND: Round 3 (ini 10)

POSITION:  H2
 ACTIONS: move 15ft to H2(move) attack Ankylosaurus (power attack and trip) (standard)

 HP: 90/90
 AC: 22; FFAC: 20; Touch: 10; CMD: 31

 DICE ROLLS: Ankou rolled 24,37,23 using d20+13,4d6+21,d20+19 with rolls of 11,5,6,4,1,4.  Steggy attack Anky (PA + trip)
   -> Ankylosaurus is hit, takes 37 damage and is not tripped.

 SUMMARY: Steggy moves and attacks Anky, deals 37 damage, fails to trip the big dino.

  Steggy provokes an AOO from Anky and Bully, but I don't think either can take it. Correct me if I'm wrong
Grunyar Fangblood
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Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 18:06
  • msg #58

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis


OOC: So what is the call on charm monster and areana immunities?

Ankou
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Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 18:12
  • msg #59

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis

If it comes to a vote, I vote immunity does not apply.
Thraxis
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Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 18:32
  • msg #60

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis

We are our own ref, so in the name of rushing to finish by 11/5, I'll go with this:
I agree with that unless the charm caster is the only target available.  (That'd be either at end of match or during down time waiting for zombies, not for simple loss of line of sight/effect.)  If the charmer and charmee are the only active combatants, arena immunities should apply, as it keeps the charmee from taking any attack action.
Edward Doyle Remington III
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Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 18:33
  • msg #61

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis

I agree.
Ankou
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Thu 29 Oct 2015
at 19:13
  • msg #62

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis

Seems fair.
Grunyar Fangblood
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Fri 30 Oct 2015
at 00:34
  • msg #63

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis

 ABCDEFGHIJ 
1+5   AAA  +51
2    AAA   2
3TTTTAAA   3
4TTTT      4
5TTTT      5
6T*T*TT      6
7+2*+2*G*+2*  EEE 7
8****  EEE 8
9***+2** EEE 9
10+5**+2**    +510
 ABCDEFGHIJ 

Grunyar nods to his Hag and a clouds starts to billow from the corner of her building filling it up the she moves closer to her "friend".

T = Thraxis's Giant Ankylosaurus
G = Grunyar's Winter Hag
E = Edward's War Bull
A = Ankou's Stegosaurus

ROUND: Round 3 (6)

POSITION:  C7
 ACTIONS: uses at will SLA cast Fog Cloud(standard), move to C7 (move)

 HP: 85/85
 AC: 20; FFAC: 19; Touch: 11; CMD: 24

 EFFECTS: - pass without trace, see invisibility, breath weapon cool down 0/1
 GEAR: +2 Frost Quarter staff
 USES: - SLA: At will—chill metal (DC 16), detect magic, fog cloud, frostbite, whispering wind
3/day—alter self, 2/3 charm monster (DC 18), invisibility (self only), major image (DC 17)
1/day—cone of cold (DC 19; see ice staff), control weather (windy or cold weather only), wall of ice (DC 18), waves of fatigue

DICE ROLLS: -

SUMMARY: - Hag casts Fog Cloud centered at A10:B9+1, moves to C7


OOC: - sorry for the delay had an so RL stuff come up.

Grunyar Fangblood
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Fri 30 Oct 2015
at 00:36
  • msg #64

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis


OOC: - keep forgetting to add link http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG...rHag.html#winter-hag

Thraxis
Expert 838 BP, 275 posts
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Fri 30 Oct 2015
at 02:53
  • msg #65

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis


 ABCDEFGHIJ 
1+5   AAA  +51
2    AAA   2
3TTTTAAA   3
4TTTT      4
5TTTT      5
6T*T*TT      6
7+2*+2*G*+2*  EEE 7
8****  EEE 8
9***+2** EEE 9
10+5**+2**    +510
 ABCDEFGHIJ 

T = Thraxis's Giant Ankylosaurus
E = Edward's War Bull
G = Grunyar's Winter Hag
A = Ankou's Stegosaurus


   ROUND: 3 (5 [-1])
POSITION: (A3,D6)
 ACTIONS: Ready Action  (standard)


Giant Ankylosaurus,  HP 50/95   http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG...inosaur-ankylosaurus
AC: 23      TAC: 6     FFAC:  23

EFFECTS: Giant Template http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG...sterAdvancement.html (changes included above, not an actual effect but listed here to give a place for the link)
   GEAR: n/a
   USED ABILITIES: n/a

ROLLS:
n/a

SUMMARY: Confused by everyone swinging at it, the ankylosaurus hunkers down next to its friend.

OOC:

Edward Doyle Remington III
Expert 698 BP, 305 posts
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Fri 30 Oct 2015
at 18:18
  • msg #66

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis



 ABCDEFGHIJ 
1+5   AAA  +51
2    AAA   2
3TTTTAAA   3
4TTTT      4
5TTTT      5
6T*T*TT      6
7+2*+2*G*+2*  EEE 7
8****  EEE 8
9***+2** EEE 9
10+5**+2**    +510
 ABCDEFGHIJ 


T = Thraxis's Giant Ankylosaurus
G = Grunyar's Winter Hag
E = Edward's War Bull
A = Ankou's Stegosaurus

   ROUND: 3 (3)
POSITION: G7/I9
 ACTIONS: (dazed)


War Bull,  HP 55/85   http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestia...ngs/animals/war-bull
AC: 20      TAC: 9     FFAC:  19

EFFECTS: dazed 1/1
   GEAR: n/a
   USED ABILITIES: n/a

ROLLS:
SUMMARY: War Bull is dazed

OOC:  I made an attack, then realized I'm dazed . . . I think.  It depends upon if Thraxis's readied action to attack an attacker came before or after the attack resolved, I think.  I think.  Either way, I believe my attack would have missed, due to the steg granting partial cover.
Ankou
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Fri 30 Oct 2015
at 18:35
  • msg #67

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis

I don't think dinosaurs grant cover to each other.
As to your being dazed, Thraxis' readied action interrupted yours, so I think you're good to go.
Thraxis
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Fri 30 Oct 2015
at 19:10
  • msg #68

Re: Monster Mash #5: Ankou vs. Edward vs. Grunyar vs. Thraxis

Edward was exactly right.  Creatures provide cover, but it is only soft cover (no bonus to reflex saves).  Also, as less than half of the Ankylosaur is hidden, it's only partial cover.  Normally that reduction can only be made by GM ruling, but we're our own ref's, and this is the poster child of clear cases.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/combat#TOC-Cover

Ankou is right about the stun, but it doesn't matter too much as you missed.

Also: Really guys?  Are you waiting to attack the hag until we're all unable to attack it?
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