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OOC Discussion 7.

Posted by GM ArkrimFor group 0
Brakt
Fighter 1,729, 499 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Mon 11 Dec 2017
at 08:55
  • msg #864

Re: OOC Discussion 7

Hey Josep.

Proposition for our match. How about... invis/flying is fine, but.
No Prep rounds  and Brakt automatically goes first in initiative.

I'll even take a large colloseum so you know I can't reach you
Josep Gavinho
Sorcerer 1,537, 1119 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,537 BP
Mon 11 Dec 2017
at 10:36
  • msg #865

Re: OOC Discussion 7

Brakt automatically goes first?? Are you crazy? Josep prises himself on being the fastest trigger of the plains...
Large colosseum is no guarantee, I’ve seen Hiro run diagonally across a large arena and land a high kick on arrival!
Invisibility and Flight are not very useful if I have an ogre on m’y neck before I can start casting ;)
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 1,794, 1359 posts
Drow N. Antipal/Agn/Oracl
Shadow's Caress
Mon 11 Dec 2017
at 14:04
  • msg #866

Re: OOC Discussion 7

hot dang! Critical hits with spells are the best!
Josep Gavinho
Sorcerer 1,537, 1120 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,537 BP
Mon 11 Dec 2017
at 14:17
  • msg #867

Re: OOC Discussion 7

 Hey that's my spell !!
Latro Dectus
Antipaladin 1,794, 1361 posts
Drow N. Antipal/Agn/Oracl
Shadow's Caress
Mon 11 Dec 2017
at 14:31
  • msg #868

Re: OOC Discussion 7

I mean, what do you expect? I'm chaotic evil. I steel things. ;P
Tinny Tina
Alchemist 1,721, 656 posts
Wyrwood Alchemist
SotVD
Mon 11 Dec 2017
at 15:08
  • msg #869

Re: OOC Discussion 7

Yeah, and you steal things, too!
Josep Gavinho
Sorcerer 1,537, 1122 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,537 BP
Mon 11 Dec 2017
at 15:21
  • msg #870

Re: OOC Discussion 7

I notice no one stole your idea of bringing a freaking catapult into the arena ;)
Tinny Tina
Alchemist 1,721, 657 posts
Wyrwood Alchemist
SotVD
Mon 11 Dec 2017
at 15:28
  • msg #871

Re: OOC Discussion 7

That's because it didn't work!!!
Vry
Sorcerer 1,743, 252 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 11 Dec 2017
at 15:29
  • msg #872

Re: OOC Discussion 7

In reply to Tinny Tina (msg # 871):

Was awesome though! :D
Vry
Sorcerer 1,743, 253 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 11 Dec 2017
at 15:31
  • msg #873

Re: OOC Discussion 7

I'm not quite ready for a fight myself, but could ref one if anyone else is going to fight.
Josep Gavinho
Sorcerer 1,537, 1123 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,537 BP
Mon 11 Dec 2017
at 15:33
  • msg #874

Re: OOC Discussion 7

Quick question, when one fires multiple rays, does one need to declare all targets before rolling, or can one shoot a first ray, see how it does, then a second, etc. The same way you would with multiple iterative attacks from a high BAB ?
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 1,822, 690 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Mon 11 Dec 2017
at 15:39
  • msg #875

Re: OOC Discussion 7

spell says fired simultaneously so I would say declare before rolls
Vry
Sorcerer 1,743, 254 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Mon 11 Dec 2017
at 15:48
  • msg #876

Re: OOC Discussion 7

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 874):

Haha this is just one big learning experience! Oh, to watch the champion and the major contender of the arena do what they do best! :D
This message was last edited by the player at 15:48, Mon 11 Dec 2017.
Brakt
Fighter 1,729, 500 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Tue 12 Dec 2017
at 05:58
  • msg #877

Re: OOC Discussion 7

@Josep: I had to try.

Just for the hell of it, if you're still the champion at the end of this match, let's make it interesting?  No flying, no time stop. Everything else is fair game?

Latro, since you'll be done at the same time as us, want to ref?
Brakt
Fighter 1,729, 501 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Tue 12 Dec 2017
at 06:30
  • msg #878

Re: OOC Discussion 7

Hey OOC.

I need a vote for a ruling, because I can't do my job right :D

Tiaca just cast Reach Scorching Rays using a level 2 spell slot. According to the rules though:

Metamagic:
Pathfinder errata already clarifies this, but just to summarize: any effects that reduce the metamagic cost of an effect do not stack with each other nor can they reduce the spell slot level below its original spell level + 1. This applies regardless of any combination of class features, racial traits, background traits, feats or spells in effect. Any ability that specifically says that it does otherwise is banned from the arena.


So, Tiaca can't do this.  Now, do we:

  • A: Cast the same spell using a level 3 spell slot(Effectively no difference)
  • B: Cast a different spell using the same readied action?
  • C: Tiaca loses the readied action completely?


Thanks guys
GM Arkrim
GM, 6321 posts
Game Master
Tue 12 Dec 2017
at 07:07
  • msg #879

Re: OOC Discussion 7

Personally, I'm of the opinion that if it's possible to do what you're trying to do, then you do it.

If it winds up having a different cost than you were expecting (higher spell slot for a spontaneous caster) then so be it.

However, if it's impossible (such as the same situation happening to a prepared caster) then what you declared happening fizzles and you may or may not get a foul depending on whether the ref feels that it's something the player should have obviously been prepared for.

Usually a conflict with the core rules is insta foul while a conflict with arena rules is a bit more forgiving but not for repeat mistakes during the same match (even if they're different rules for each mistake).

Or at least that's how I look at it.

A) if spontaneous caster
C) if not spontaneous caster and doesn't have exact same spell prepared as 3rd level
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 1,822, 691 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Tue 12 Dec 2017
at 07:47
  • msg #880

Re: OOC Discussion 7

In reply to Brakt (msg # 877):

Latro and I are going to duel after he is finished
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 1,822, 692 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Tue 12 Dec 2017
at 07:51
  • msg #881

Re: OOC Discussion 7

In reply to Brakt (msg # 878):
+1 what GM said

quote:
A) if spontaneous caster
C) if not spontaneous caster and doesn't have exact same spell prepared as 3rd level

Brakt
Fighter 1,729, 503 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Tue 12 Dec 2017
at 12:12
  • msg #882

Re: OOC Discussion 7

Hmm... Well...

Anyone else want to ref Josep and myself?
Josep Gavinho
Sorcerer 1,537, 1126 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,537 BP
Tue 12 Dec 2017
at 12:21
  • msg #883

Re: OOC Discussion 7

In reply to Brakt (msg # 882):
 Vry? Or Tina ?

Brakt, are you saying you want the belt?
Josep Gavinho
Sorcerer 1,537, 1127 posts
Human Wizard
TA - 1,537 BP
Tue 12 Dec 2017
at 12:22
  • msg #884

Re: OOC Discussion 7

MY BELT ??!
Brakt
Fighter 1,729, 504 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Tue 12 Dec 2017
at 12:37
  • msg #885

Re: OOC Discussion 7

Only if Latro doesn't take it first!

But yeah. I think I'm finally in a place where I'll have a chance :)

I do think we'll need someone experienced to ref, if it's anything like your current match... Maybe Latro when he's done eatingwith Grunyar, or Boadicea or Tina maybe?
Lyn
Magus 476, 18 posts
Elf Magus
Tue 12 Dec 2017
at 12:38
  • msg #886

Re: OOC Discussion 7

I can't ref that, for... Reasons.

But, anyone up for a limit BP500 match?
Vry
Sorcerer 1,743, 255 posts
Advanced Gnome
Shadow's Caress
Tue 12 Dec 2017
at 13:00
  • msg #887

Re: OOC Discussion 7

I'm up for reffing anything. I'll probably be ready to duel in a week, too.
Boadicea
Barbarian 1,594, 833 posts
Advanced Human Barbarian
Tue 12 Dec 2017
at 13:11
  • msg #888

Re: OOC Discussion 7

Lyn, if you want to do the Grunyar Latro duel I can do Josep Brakt duel
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