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OOC # 21.

Posted by Admiral HackFor group 0
Garrat Wolfrim
player, 5842 posts
field engineer
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 16:42
  • msg #929

Re: OOC # 21

 Excelent, if Garrat is aware of the directional shift, he can figure out where they are heading and knows it came directly after an enterrogation and that they are mot likely to be going to Bura.
Admiral Hack
GM, 6840 posts
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 17:44
  • msg #930

Re: OOC # 21

he could?..keep in mind its  still convoy  movements .. ( using the  same  rules  as the solo game  for Avalon Hiuls 'Submarine' where you you played  solo  and the   random movements of the  convoy were to throw off the attackers)
Garrat Wolfrim
player, 5844 posts
field engineer
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 17:59
  • msg #931

Re: OOC # 21

    Yep, the old submarines would ocasionally make a full 360 to throw off silent followers and make them reveal their positions...there are some limitations to this however having to do with fuel expendature verses predictability.  45 degrees is a big  correction for a random change.
Admiral Hack
GM, 6841 posts
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 18:28
  • msg #932

Re: OOC # 21

 the  Convoys did  the  whole group of Vessels, including the pickets  and   screens.. so?  if  a  sub commander   did  take a shot  a  screen vessel  might  take the  hit.. if they fired  from  closer  range, sonar  had a  chance to pick them up.
Harriet Lynch
player, 1383 posts
Upstart Pilot
Call Me Harry
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 18:33
  • msg #933

Re: OOC # 21

hmm I don't know, I think you'd be hard pushed to notice any change of movement, after all you're talking about a ship the size of a small city moving in a 3D environment devoid of gravity and with artificial gravity being generated inside from a central point...in short Hack could do a barrel roll and unless you were looking out of a window you wouldn't notice.

Also unless you're able to tell the difference between one star / chunk of rock from another purely by sight and then cross reference it's relative position within the galaxy depending on the time of year (because most of this stuff orbits around something else) you'll have to take it on trust that your actually going where you've been told you're going.
Melia Kristensen
player, 1512 posts
Combat Corpsman
Petty Officer 1st Class
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 18:39
  • msg #934

Re: OOC # 21

Yeah was thinking the same thing.  Even fighting against inertia for as gentle a maneuver I'd suspect the gravitation generators would be able to handle that kind of load easily.
Admiral Hack
GM, 6842 posts
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 18:49
  • msg #935

Re: OOC # 21

 the issue here?... Shadow had  Just  came  down to the  HAnger Dec  after  all the Fuss  and his  return for a drink

 the Admiral  is having  dinner   and the course  was   changed  sometime durng that..

 at the  time of the change, Garrat is on the Rec Dec   with Teela  while the  change is made.
Garrat Wolfrim
player, 5845 posts
field engineer
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 19:08
  • msg #936

Re: OOC # 21

Nope, I don’t remember that and can’t find anything after he witnessed shadow kicking  German ass.  He is posting in civie section in flex.  I should probably go back and make sure that is stated.
Admiral Hack
GM, 6843 posts
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 19:39
  • msg #937

Re: OOC # 21

 Teela  and he were in Ob dec.. then they went  to the rec dec... somewhere  in there , he  was able to go to the Hold,

 after the hold he  went  some where ..but, the  change in  direction is  happening real time
Zobaich
player, 1101 posts
Codename
Tangerine Man
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 19:51
  • msg #938

Re: OOC # 21

Zob when angry is more likely to kill somebody like this...

https://youtu.be/qSZPl-nES7A?t=421

Between 7:00 - 7:21
This message was last edited by the player at 20:24, Mon 24 June 2019.
Admiral Hack
GM, 6844 posts
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 20:09
  • msg #939

Re: OOC # 21

which one?
Zobaich
player, 1102 posts
Codename
Tangerine Man
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 20:24
  • msg #940

Re: OOC # 21

Between 7:00 - 7:21
Garrat Wolfrim
player, 5846 posts
field engineer
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 20:27
  • msg #941

Re: OOC # 21

  he went to the hanger deck after the failed inerogation in the hold and was going to offer to load bullets into a chain for Teela's fighter when I believe Harry said no. He knew the rest of the inerrogation would be happening while he was there.

  An interesting circumstance as she felt it would be more important to rely on a hanger deck crew member who was likely new to the hermes and stressed for time [as many of the hanger deck people had been killed in recent actions] to load them imto chains than an aged combat veteran who had been doing it for the last few centuries and had enough time and carring to make damn sure his woman had the best bullets.  WHy? he might feel guilty if she died in battle thinking he did a lousy job of it.

  That is where he was when the change took place.  By pointing one toe at where the star was, and one at where it moved to he had a good idea of the size of the course correction.  Now he does not know the original trajectory unless he does indeed know the stars of this area, though he gould look it up and generally figure it out on standard information access but he doesn't see a reason for that yet.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:31, Mon 24 June 2019.
Admiral Hack
GM, 6845 posts
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 20:32
  • msg #942

Re: OOC # 21

when was he on the red Dec  with Teela?..because  the change  was happening while they were there.

 so whether  he stayed to load or Not...( argie  might have  had some to to say about it as well)..he would be up on the Rec dec  with her.

  If he wasn't on the Rec dec with her..and/or  the rec dec  posts  are  Flex..we need to end thier flex  there, since everyone has  moved   , well on, from there.
Garrat Wolfrim
player, 5847 posts
field engineer
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 20:34
  • msg #943

Re: OOC # 21

   Feel free to check the thread,  I have twice.

   You might be thinking of someone else.
Garrat Wolfrim
player, 5848 posts
field engineer
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 20:39
  • msg #944

Re: OOC # 21

I'll wind up the flex tonight with a wall of post from Garrat.  Tried for it last night but kept falling asleep.
Lizzy Maris
player, 229 posts
Pilot Ensign
Fiery Redhead
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 20:47
  • msg #945

Re: OOC # 21

 That was an amazing post by Harry and then totally amazing by Will I laughed so hard...
Glad Lizzy texted Harry about Zob and lingerie. lol
Zobaich
player, 1103 posts
Codename
Tangerine Man
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 21:00
  • msg #946

Re: OOC # 21

Garrat was on the Rec Dec from what i was reading was after the morning run, then the trail abruptly cuts off and appears in the Hold to assist, and then follows the sec group up assisting bringing the Germans in he then volunteers to be a cash runner then returns to the rec dec, then hands over credits to Dana and Sneak then chats with Justin for a bit, then returns to the med lab after, then Von Straff started being a stubborn ass so Hack had the Germans sent down to the hold Garrat assisted, we reach the hold launch a few of the germans out the static field then instead of coming back to SEC he heads off to the hanger dec to clear his mind and go load rounds for Teela's fighter and Harry and ground crew told him no and that's where he left off.

None of this was stated he was with Teela.
Admiral Hack
GM, 6846 posts
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 21:08
  • msg #947

Re: OOC # 21

 it happens  with Flex, which is why  i have the   restrictions on it  I do....no one can be  everywhere at once.. Shadow even has to go through  transitions, and  'misses out" on somethings

 The bottom line is , they change  is  being  made  until 'now"  while the    Admiral is  at the Meeting, Shadow came  down to the  hanger, as far as I knew.. Teela  and  Garrat where  talkign   stuff on  the Rec dec.

 It may not seem like a 'big thing'..but Flex is  to  finish off  RP,   'real time' is  the Currant RP.
Zobaich
player, 1105 posts
Codename
Tangerine Man
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 21:19
  • msg #948

Re: OOC # 21

Yeah you are right was back on Rec Dec 6 thread, leading up to Garrat slamming Von Straff with his cybernetic arm cause they insulted his daughter.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:20, Mon 24 June 2019.
Harriet Lynch
player, 1385 posts
Upstart Pilot
Call Me Harry
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 21:38
  • msg #949

Re: OOC # 21

Garrat Wolfrim:
  he went to the hanger deck after the failed inerogation in the hold and was going to offer to load bullets into a chain for Teela's fighter when I believe Harry said no. He knew the rest of the inerrogation would be happening while he was there.

  An interesting circumstance as she felt it would be more important to rely on a hanger deck crew member who was likely new to the hermes and stressed for time [as many of the hanger deck people had been killed in recent actions] to load them imto chains than an aged combat veteran who had been doing it for the last few centuries and had enough time and caring to make damn sure his woman had the best bullets.  WHy? he might feel guilty if she died in battle thinking he did a lousy job of it.

  That is where he was when the change took place.  By pointing one toe at where the star was, and one at where it moved to he had a good idea of the size of the course correction.  Now he does not know the original trajectory unless he does indeed know the stars of this area, though he gould look it up and generally figure it out on standard information access but he doesn't see a reason for that yet.


It's because both the pilots and ground crew have been specifically trained to load and maintain the weapons on their fighters (the ground crew more than the pilots obviously)if the pilot messes up and gets themselves killed then it's their fault and as it has been shown in previous posts Rivets and Argie give very short shrift to grounds crewmen that make mistakes. Garrat meanwhile is not only a ground pounder he's a ground pounder for the Asgardian military, not the ESN (as has been stated in previous posts) therefore there is no guarantee that he has had any form of training on that particular model of ESN 37mm Gatling Cannon (OOC: I feel like it should some kind of cool name like Hellfire or something) how long ago that training took place and how regularly it has been used making him a potential liability.

Secondly if Teela's gun malfunctions and get's her killed then Harry is going to blame herself for letting Garrat load her belts even though she knows she shouldn't have.

Thirdly if Teela's gun malfunctions and get's her killed the first question that's going to be asked is "Who loaded her belts?" and upon learning that it was Garrat the second question would be "who gave you permission to perform important maintenance on that fighter?" at which point Both Garrat and Harry are facing a court marshal (and perhaps even the long walk home)

So...yeah Harry had her reasons for not letting Garrat load ammo belts for Teela. It's not that she doesn't trust him or think him incompetent it's just very risky to let him do so. Had Teela been there to ok it however...
Admiral Hack
GM, 6847 posts
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 21:48
  • msg #950

Re: OOC # 21

there are alot  of times..too much  can be  done, as  well  as  'not enough'

 basic thing here  is,  HAd Teela been there.. she  could have  'loaded  with him'..heck..if Garat  didn't  make a  Jump  Off, Rivets might  allow  him to help  load  'rearm' belts for fighters who come back in to reload... when  we are in battle. the  Piltos  get whatever belts  are ready, but the first ones?..its nice to know you loaded them!

…………………..

 now the above   was clearly taken care of... and because of that..Garrat would not be on the HAnger Dec... even if somethign wopuld have   allowed him to  'stay and load'..  the timing of  the  'turn' is not when he is there.

 small thing?.. sure?.. but it could lend itself  to  trouble  down the  road  if some one say "..but he go to do this".
Zobaich
player, 1107 posts
Codename
Tangerine Man
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 22:16
  • msg #951

Re: OOC # 21

Sorry Lizzy i didn't roll good to see if i kept my composure :(

Its not a required roll but i use it to determine some of the reactions my character would make in certain situations but low willpower makes it hard to control some outbursts.
Lizzy Maris
player, 232 posts
Pilot Ensign
Fiery Redhead
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 22:25
  • msg #952

Re: OOC # 21

Fair enough Lizzy is truly sorry , she should have known you would act differently, she was actually trying to startle you to get a lead it was in fun, but I understand. Lets see what happens next shall we.
Zobaich
player, 1109 posts
Codename
Tangerine Man
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 22:46
  • msg #953

Re: OOC # 21

I know but i felt it would be a good time for you to experience both sides of the conflicted coin.

If for no other reason then a interesting RP plot twist.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:47, Mon 24 June 2019.
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