New and improved! Discussion thread 7! Can you believe we're all so chatty?

FIRST!!!

Erin, once you're a higher level, you and I need to have a go. You're basically everything i hate compressed into one solitary fleshy being. ;P
This message was last edited by the player at 08:12, Fri 08 July 2016.

So anyways, here's the proposed challenge

Just need Boadicea to fill out her details.

UGRIM challenges BOADICEA to a 1v1 Barbarian-fest!

Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: {No Limit}/0
      Referee: Oreo
Participant 1: Ugrim, Advanced Orc, Barbarian10/Fighter1, Headband, Cloak, Shirt, Chain Shirt, Belt, Boots, Nodachi, Wayfinder, Ioun Stone x2, Potion x3
Participant 2: Boadicea, Advanced Human, Barbarian/Brawler
Participant 3: {None}
Participant 4: {None}
          Map: Large Colosseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1
       Extras: No using hero points, no flying, no invisibility

Hiro, you want that belt or not?
Otherwise I'll challenge my artillery nemesis Ario ;)
If Haran Madar was still around, we could go at it threeways.

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 4):

Haran is around and he will fight. He has too!

In reply to Ugrim (msg # 3):

Applying my BP be ready in a bit, had to move things around that was not a good build to go up against anyone it turns out :)

I do! I'm pretty much ready but will not be around this weekend.

Do you want to wear the belt, or pick the arena?

1 prep round?

1 prep round is fine.
I will pick the arena :)

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 8):

That's good, I'd hate to get your blood all over my belt :)

Duel #200 no less ;)

Sorry I swooped in and stole your duel, Ugrim was just waiting on me and I got busy with family.

Latro!
Fight me!!

Grunyar, Latro, Josep and Tina should do a Monstrous Battle Royal or a Suicidal Monster Hunt.

Their power levels have exploded in the last couple of months and at their levels a battle royal would be INTENSE.
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:46, Sat 09 July 2016.

Suicidal is right, that'd be a CR 20+ enemy. Josep might have to do something other than cast Scorching Ray just to deal with the spell resistance :P

I know. That'd be a pretty crazy fight, but between 4 high level power gamers, I'm sure you could really wreck some crazy stuff. I'm fairly certain 4 players with 2.5k BP each could take on the Tarrasque if they went in prepared.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:28, Sun 10 July 2016.

Did I mess the challenge post up or am I OK to repost challenge?

UGRIM challenges BOADICEA to a 1v1 Barbarian-fest!

Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: {No Limit}/0
      Referee: Oreo (Ario)
Participant 1: Ugrim, Advanced Orc, Barbarian10/Fighter1, Headband, Cloak, Shirt, Chain Shirt, Belt, Boots, Nodachi, Wayfinder, Ioun Stone x2, Potion x3
Participant 2: Boadicea, Advanced Human, Barbarian2/Brawler8, Amulet, Cloak, Gloves, Shirt, Ioun Stone X2, Wayfinder, Armor, Potion, Belt, Bandolier
Participant 3: {None}
Participant 4: {None}
          Map: Large Colosseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1
       Extras: No using hero points, no flying, no invisibility, suspend 48 hour rule Monday thru Thursday

Ugrim put this up when your ready, you don't have to put the last part I won't call 48 hour on you on those days any way just figured I'd put in.

Sorry. Haven't been around. Been playing the heck out of Pokemon GO.

Name your terms, foolish one.

In reply to Ugrim (msg # 18):

Wow didn't know that was out, thats is interesting looking.  I used to play a RPG with similar mechanics it used your location and generated resources NPCs on the map and when in radious you could interact with others

And all of my devices are not supported :(
This message was last edited by the player at 15:06, Sun 10 July 2016.

   Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: {Name}
Participant 1: Tinny Tina, Wyrwood, Alchemist 12, Longbow, Chain Shirt, Headband, Lenses, Cloak, Belt, Boots, Arrows, More Arrows, Acid, Wayfinder, Dust, Ioun Stone, Ioun Stone, Ioun Stone, Cloak, Gloves, Saddle
Participant 2: Latro Dectus, {Race, Class Level, Gear}
Participant 3: {None}
Participant 4: {None}
          Map: Small King of the Hill
     Lighting: Standard Light
      Terrain: Dungeon
        Walls: Standard Masonry
         Prep: 1 round
       Extras: Each edge of the arena connects to the opposite edge

This message was last edited by the player at 19:44, Sun 10 July 2016.

DUEL #200!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B10wQp3IWKc

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 22):

Lol

How is up for a CR 10 Monster Mash?

Josep, this week is turning out far more nuts than I anticipated. Go ahead with another match if you want, I doubt I'll be able to do it this week..

Sorry!

In reply to Hiro (msg # 25):
 Fair enough. I'll be waiting ;)

 Who wants a fight? Ario, you in?
 Anyone else? A summoner maybe?

I'd be up for a fight.  How's:


Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: {No Limit}/{None}
      Referee: [yournamehere]
Participant 1:  Ario, Drider Kineticist 11
Participant 2:  Josep, Human Sorcerer 11
Participant 3: {None}
Participant 4: {None}
          Map: Coliseum (small)
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: none
       Extras: 3 consecutive matches (reset to original square with no effects after each win), no need to declare items until initiative post

Sounds intriguing. Winner is whoever gets two wins, I suppose?
We should get a ballistics expert as referee. Any takers?

I was thinking three actual separate matches without needing to go through re-drafting a ref and having arkrim re-make the thread.

Tina is your true range master, if she passes I'm always lurking about if you need a Ref.

Latro!!!

   Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: {Name}
Participant 1: Tinny Tina, Wyrwood, Alchemist 12, Longbow, Chain Shirt, Headband, Lenses, Cloak, Belt, Boots, Arrows, More Arrows, Acid, Wayfinder, Dust, Ioun Stone, Ioun Stone, Ioun Stone, Cloak, Gloves, Saddle
Participant 2: Latro Dectus, {Race, Class Level, Gear}
Participant 3: {None}
Participant 4: {None}
          Map: Small King of the Hill
     Lighting: Standard Light
      Terrain: Dungeon
        Walls: Standard Masonry
         Prep: 1 round
       Extras: Each edge of the arena connects to the opposite edge, suspend 48 hour rule Monday thru Thursday

Fight me!!!!

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I'll ref for you guys.

Seems legit. Give me a week or so to update my character sheet. Believe it or not, my standard sheet is built specifically to combat melee foes (like hiro) so i'll need to make a few tweeks to deal with you and your ranged shenanigans. ;P

I'd love to make it three games, but is that really legit?
Seems like a quick and dirty way to generate a lot of BP and score on the leaderships board!
If it's all kosher though, let's do it and have Tina ref it.

I'm quite certain in reading through old matches, that I found one where they did just what I'm proposing.  It's only quick if we fight quick - in some of the drawn out matches it'd be committing to months of play.  I'd be fine with adding an extra that 2/3 winner is the only credit for leader board.

Airo if are levels are not to far apart I would be up for a match with you. 3 rounds sounds fine with me.

If I don't see a championship or battle royal soon, I'm going to have to do something drastic...

Just how drastic are we talking here? On a scale from "increased rewards for battles royal" to "choose four gladiators at random and force them into a battle royal"
This message was last edited by the player at 05:53, Thu 14 July 2016.

In reply to GM Arkrim (msg # 36):

Sounds fun but lets do this on our terms ..., Tina, Hiro, Thraxis you all want to do a monster battle royale?

Hey all, internet failed and I'll be off until Saturday or Sunday while it's getting fixed.

In reply to Ario (msg # 39):

That sux

In reply to Ario (msg # 39):
 You'll have a challenge waiting for you ;)

 Arkrim, do you have anything against our setting up a three-battle-in-one challenge?
 Absent a restriction from you, I'll assume that the precedent holds and that we can proceed with it.

If by "three-battle-in-one" you mean "battle royal with 3 people" go ahead.

Battle Royales can certainly be messy.

Yes, Jayce, I am still around. Lurking in the shadows, waiting for you to get stronger so I can fight you. Don't throw Josep to the wolves because you're scared.

I'm just about ready to fight somebody if anyone's out there.

In reply to Bruhli (msg # 44):

As always I am ready for a fight when not in th arena already, however GM wants some entertainment so how about a Barbarian Battle Royal (or just a Martial Battle Royal if another martial type wants in), with large map Boxed in or Tunnels or Collosseum maps, no prep just bell ringing fun :)

Ankou has been quiet for too long ; I'll happy enlist him in the Battle Royale.
If you want to make it a Martial Battle Royale, I can modify his build slightly to accommodate.

 Sorry Ario, I rushed into the challenge thread, didn't realise I had updated Josep since... I guess I can't repost the challenge right now, but if you want to do it, update the line to reflect Josep is Noble Drow Sorcerer 11.

I have been on a Pokemon Go kick. I'm starting to come down from that high. However, I will be on vacation July 30th until August 8th-9th. So I will be quiet a little longer.

I have discovered a location in my city so that I can actually evolve pikachu into a riachu. Already got a charizard. Gyrados is taking a while...

In reply to Ankou (msg # 46):

I'm down, Bruhli & Ugrim you in?

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 49):

BARBARIAN BATTLE ROYAL!!!!!!!!!

In reply to Ugrim (msg # 50):

YES!

I'll go get the popcorn and watch your characters TEAR EACH OTHER LIMB FROM LIMB. This is what people go to the arena to see!

Ironically, I'll probably be a Warpriest so I can further test that out. But I agree if you guys are cool with me not being a barbarian

AWSOME, so the roster is Ugrim, Boadicea, Bruhli, Ankou.

What kind of map? I like the ones I mentioned earlier

Standard walls, lighting, ...?

I say if we do anything other than Colosseum no prep round, just my thoughts

Extras: low ceiling (+5), no invisible, no hero points, no need to declare items until first combat post

What do you all think?

We could go on the wild side and do all random :)

 All random !!

 Or Bone walls, checkered floor with Italian marble and lava, three pillars of electricity that radiate, and a 50ft high ceiling that lowers 5ft per round until we're all crushed.

Ario, you still on?
After 48h have passed, can I reissue the challenge? Or is that a week?
Otherwise, you could go ahead and issue it.

I actually really like this one!

Maybe make it 25 feet so it pressures us more?

Or maybe the water level rises 5 feet every round until we're all submerged in an arena with lots of raised platforms?

maybe both until the water and the ceiling meet?

In reply to Ugrim (msg # 56):

This is what I normally like:




Good old Standard! But I'd be willing to compromise with the below:

Do a bar fight

Tinny, our (Josep vs me) challenge is up if you could accept refsponsibilities.

In reply to Bruhli (msg # 57):

Fine with me.

In reply to Bruhli (msg # 57):

booooriiing!

But i'll accept that. :P

In reply to Bruhli (msg # 57):

I'm down with Random but no prep rounds

Latro!!!!!
It's been a week, you ready yet??????

   Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / No Limit Hero Points
      Referee: {Name}
Participant 1: Tinny Tina, Wyrwood, Alchemist 11, Chain Shirt, Headband, Cloak, Belt, Boots, Acid, Ioun Stone, Ioun Stone, Ioun Stone, Trebuchet, Dust, Dust, Wayfinder, Cloak, Gloves, Cloak, Ioun Stone
Participant 2: Latro Dectus, {Race, Class Level, Gear}
Participant 3: {None}
Participant 4: {None}
          Map: Small King of the Hill
     Lighting: Standard Light
      Terrain: Dungeon
        Walls: Standard Masonry
         Prep: 1 round
       Extras: Each edge of the arena connects to the opposite edge, suspend 48 hour rule Monday thru Thursday

Not quite yet but i am working on it.

I realized recently that i'm gonna have to figure out a way to get around all your construct shenanigans as well as your ranged shenanigans so props to making me think harder than i need to. ;P
This message was last edited by the player at 12:55, Thu 21 July 2016.

You could just, like, not think at all and let me kill you super hard. That's always an option.

Hello all! I'm new, and looking for a fight >:D

...a level appropriate fight, that is. I'm only a 6th level Summoner (might go up to 7 with the initial BP bonus but still), and it looks like people are at around level 10+ mostly. Any potential fights for me?

Actually, I like Tiny's idea. How about the below. I've also taken out the prep round. If not, I'd be fine with random map too. Also, for you adrenaline junkies, we could always do 1 random extra chosen by the ref/GM.




Welcome Kecil! I'm sure there are some other weaklings ready to fight you ;)
This message was last edited by the player at 12:43, Fri 22 July 2016.

If our Monster Mash Battle Royale is not happening, I'd be willing to drop to 300-500 bp for a level 6-7 match with you.  You can pick my bp limit - higher bp means lower chance of you winning but bigger rewards whether for the win or loss.

In reply to Bruhli (msg # 67):

Sounds good to me

In reply to Thraxis (msg # 68):

Why, that's awfully kind of you :D

Let's go with 300 BP - That should be fastest to rebuild and "even", right?

Not to be rude and step in but I would not mind a go with Kecil. We are both the same area in the game. A few back to back matches may do us both good.

In reply to Erin Zilryn (msg # 71):

...Hm, yeah that might work better. Mind postponing for a few matches? I'll take you on when I've grown stronger :D

(Also, I love the Irelia avatar :D)


Edit: Actually, nothing wrong with fighting two people at once. If you've already made the lower level character, Thraxis, I'd be happy to take you on as well ;) but if you haven't, it'll probably be easier to fight when we're higher up.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:23, Sat 23 July 2016.

Thanks.

Kecil you should always get a referee for the match, GM is very busy you may have to wait for a long while if a ruling needs to be made on something.

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 74):

Hm, didn't know how important it was. Is there any way to get a ref now (beyond cancelling the challenge and resubmitting, I guess)? What do you recommend?

And, on a related note, to everyone: Anyone want to ref a match? :P

Priddy much ask someone accept the duty for the ref. and we move forward.

Should we edit the challenge/acceptance to reflect the ref? Or repost?

Fine a ref and they will accept it like did to the challenge?

In reply to Erin Zilryn (msg # 78):

I get that much, but the challenge itself says "Referee: None". Not sure if it's considered OK to edit a challenge post-acceptance, but I was guessing it's ok if both players do so. Then we wouldn't need to post again.

The alternative, as far as I can see, is simply nullifying the previous challenge and posting again. Then a ref can simply accept ref duties on the new, accurate post.

Unless there's something I'm missing?

Honestly dont ask me.

In reply to Erin Zilryn (msg # 80):

I'm mostly asking the more experienced people around here - I'm hoping someone knows more than us, and can help out :D

I will ref for you two if you like

Just both delete your posts and then Erin needs to post as challenger (after both are deleted)

In reply to Grunyar Fangblood (msg # 82):

Cool, will do. Thanks! :)

Challenge thread has been cleared. You guys can repost when ready. Make sure you have someone who will volunteer as referee for you.

In reply to Kecil (msg # 83):

I'll be a ref for y'all

In reply to Bruhli (msg # 85):

Grunyar (kinda) volunteered already, I think. That said I do hope to do, as suggested by Erin, back to back fights, so maybe that'll work out?



I'll post a challenge, since I'm about to sleep - if there's a reason Erin needs to challenge, she can get the next one?

Edit: Challenge up!
This message was last edited by the player at 07:21, Sun 24 July 2016.

Hiro, you still want your belt back?
Just got my ass kicked by Ario, but I'm ready.

In reply to Kecil (msg # 86):

Whoops, you're right. Grunyar did volunteer.

If you did everything right in your challenge, Erin should just quote your post and say "I accept."

If you did something wrong, she should quote your challenge and say "I reject." She can then reissue the corrected challenge and you can accept. You can accept her challenge, but you can't reissue the challenge yourself for a week.

If you made a mistake, Erin doesn't catch it and accepts your challenge; then your challenge will be rejected by rule of law and neither of you can issue the challenge for a week.

If you guys do everything correctly, have your match, and want to fight again; I don't think there is any restriction on who has to issue the second challenge. Just make sure no one else has a challenge pending in the thread.

I could be wrong about some of this. So someone can step in and make any clarifications.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:11, Sun 24 July 2016.

In reply to Bruhli (msg # 88):

Ah, so that's why Grunyar said Erin had to re-issue. I guess since the GM was kind enough to just clear it, that's no longer an issue, though?

In any case, I'm excited to get the first game in :D

Thraxis is looking for a game - duel, Battle Royale, or Monster Battle Royale preferred.

Match Type: Any
BP/Hero Limit: {No Limit}/{None}
      Referee: [volunteers welcome]
Participant 1:  Thraxis, Half Orc Summoner 11
Participant 2:
Participant 3: {None}
Participant 4: {None}
          Map: Coliseum (small)
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: none/any
       Extras: No need to declare items until initiative post

Anyone game?

Sure after this match or during I have no problem being in two matches at the same time.

In reply to Thraxis (msg # 90):
 If Hiro isn't ready for our fight, I'll join you for a Battle Royale (no monster)

@Erin: you can't be in two fights at once, I think.

If you guys (Josep, Thraxis) want a third I'm down for a battle Royal

Erin could referee but other wise its one fight per gladiator and one referee per account

I'm going to poke the democratic representatives again.  I figured I'd open a discussion about Battle Royale BP rewards.

As it stands, you get the reward for defeating (or losing to, or drawing) the average of the BP of your opponents.  For a 3 player match without a draw for top two this works out to the same BP average multiplier as for a 1v1 with 90/60/30 averaging out to 60 just like the 90/30 for a 1v1 duel. For a 3 player with a draw (60/60/30) or a 4 player match of any kind (90/60/30/30 or 60/60/30/30) it works out to less for a game that is 50% to 100% longer to play out.

Monster Battles Royale auto-correct by adding the monster BP and that without hero point cost.  But without that bump it makes it much less attractive to play battle royales, which are among the most fun for everyone to watch (I think anyways).    I propose as a fix, increasing rewards to compensate for longer play times and decreased odds of winning.

My ballpark thoughts were 110/75/40 for 3 players, and 130/90/60 for 4.  Anyone else have any thoughts?

Well, I think I've come out of this with a much better understanding of how the heck things work. Thanks, Grunyar, Erin, and everyone else who helped me out :)

I might just be overhyped, but I'm up for another round, if someone wants to fight :D

I do have one question though - Can you sell things? The only mention of "sell" I found in character creation is "You cannot sell (items) for a profit." Does that mean you can sell them neutrally? At 50%?

There is no "buying" or "selling". You have a pool of gold (based on the amount of BP you put into equipment) which can be freely allocated to items between battles. If you don't want the item anymore, you simply get rid of it and get all your gold back.

This also means that consumables, effectively, are restored after every battle. So if you spend 50 gold on a potion of bless, you only get one potion per battle, but can use that one potion in as many battles as you like.

In reply to Tinny Tina (msg # 96):

I see, makes sense. Thanks!

So I suppose that means you can't "return" gold and get BP back. Unless you do a full wipe for 1% BP, I guess?


@Battle Royale proposition: I've never played in one, so maybe my perspective is moot, but from a mathematical standpoint, you want to make it so BP/turn is about the same, right? So, with X players instead of 2 players, you'd want overall rewards to be X/2 times as high. Additionally, you want rewards for victory to scale with the lowered chance of victory - If we want victory rewards to be about the same % increase on average, we go from +200% base BP 1/2 of the time, to +X*100% base BP 1/X of the time. So, I'll just try a final formula of:

LoseXPot = 10*number of players*total BP among losers
WinXPot = 10*number of players*Winner's BP

Winner's rewards are: LoseXPot/Winner's BP
Loser's rewards are: WinnerXPot/Loser's BP

So, let's say you have four competitors, at 900 (P1), 1200 (P2), 1500 (P3), and 1800 (P4) BP. The winner is P3.

P1 would earn 1500 BP*10*4/900 = 66 BP. Compared to fighting and losing to an average of the other players (1500/900*30 = 50 BP), they earn about 32% more. If they had won, they would have earned 4500 BP*20*4/900 = 400 BP! But what are the chances of that :P

P2 would earn 1500 BP*10*4/1200 = 50 BP. Compared to fighting and losing to an average of the other players (1400/1200*30 = 35 BP), they earn about 42% more. If they had won, they would have earned 4200 BP*20*4/1200 = 280 BP - Unlikely, but a big payout.

P3 would earn 3900 BP*20*4/1500 = 208 BP. Compared to fighting and winning to an average of the other players (1500/1300*90 = 103 BP), they earn about 101% more. If they had lost... well, that's a bit more complicated. Working on getting a win% chart working so I can get an accurate number here.

P4 would earn 1500 BP*10*4/1800 = 33 BP. Compared to fighting and losing to an average of the other players (1800/1200*30 = 20 BP), they earn about 65% more. If they had won, they would have earned 3600 BP*20*4/1800 = 160 BP - A reasonably likely outcome with reasonable rewards.

As I mentioned in P3, you can work out the win% to have equal rewards across the board. The closest I got was at P1 = 8%, P2 = 18%, P3 = 27%, P4 = 47%, with all of them at about 91-93 BP/round.

Nothing conclusive, but if those win%s look about accurate to you, you'd want exactly the formula I put up if a Battle Royal is "50% more effort" than a duel, 30% higher numbers if it's twice the effort, etc.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:38, Tue 26 July 2016.

You can absolutely return gold and get BP back. BP can also be freely allocated between battles.

In reply to Tinny Tina (msg # 98):

Wait, huh? What's the full wipe for, then?

*rereads*

...oh. Right.

Apologies for being all over the place, everyone - I'm pretty scatterbrained :P

This message was deleted by the player at 10:18, Tue 26 July 2016.

@Kecil, Erin:
 Don't worry guys, things have changed a lot around the arena, an fighting is the only way to learn I think!
 You could consider ganging up on a veteran.

@Hiro: are we on or what?

@Thraxis, Grunyar: I owe Hiro a fight for the belt, but if he's not around, Battle Royale it is. If a fourth wants to join, that's cool too.

JUGGERNAUT BATTLE (1v2)
I am game if Kecil is. The question is who do we fight?

Ankou, Bruhli, Ugrim we still on and is tavern ok?

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 103):
 Yes and yes.

In reply to Erin Zilryn (msg # 102):

 You should grab a third and fight Ugrim

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 105):

If he's not busy tavern brawling, I'd be up for doing it with 2 :D

In reply to Boadicea (msg # 103):

Yep, that works for me. I'm still deciding on a build, but should be good to go in a day or two.

Why Ugrim?

In reply to Erin Zilryn (msg # 108):

Honestly I'd be up to fighting anyone >.<

If Latro doesn't get back to me soon, I'll juggernaut for y'all.

Awesome! Erin?

Quick incomplete challenge, so we can start talking about what we want:


   Match Type: 1v2 Juggernaut
BP/Hero Limit: {No Limit} or {Number} BP / {No Limit} or {Number} Hero Points
      Referee: {Name}
Participant 1: Kecil
Participant 2: Erin Zilryn
Participant 3: Tinny Tina (Juggernaut)
Participant 4:
          Map: Colosseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1 round
       Extras: None


Or we can do that in PM if you want. Wasn't sure if that's the thing to do if you're still waiting to see if you'll fight at all.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:27, Wed 27 July 2016.

In reply to Kecil (msg # 111):
 Not to curb your enthusiasm needlessly, but you're going to need a third if you mean to last one round, and a fourth if you want even a sliver of a fighting chance against our resident full tin alchemist ;)

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 112):

I got this :D

So... are people around? :P

Yep I am here.

Uhh... Want to do a no-invis duel while we wait? :P

 If no one else is available, I'll fight you. You can name a few conditions to balance the odds (your choice of arena, no flight, ...)

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 117):

Sure, we can try that.

Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No BP limit / 0 Hero Points
      Referee: ???
Participant 1: Kecil, Human Summoner 8
Participant 2: Josep Gavinho, Human Sorcerer 12
          Map: Small Colloseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1 round
       Extras: No Flight

Can't think of much else that's not ridiculous (no sorcerer spells :P).

Just to 100% clarify something - can we make changes to our characters that were previously decided, e.g. feats?
This message was last edited by the player at 13:49, Tue 02 Aug 2016.

In reply to Kecil (msg # 118):
 You can change everything, including feats, spells known, equipment, abilities, even race.

 I was thinking of Eryn teaming up with you to take on Josep. No flight, no hero point interruption, your choice of arena/terrain/light.
 That all right ?

If Erin wants to... I'd be up for a 1v1 or a juggernaut battle, either way.

Let's give Erin 12h to chime in ; otherwise go ahead and issue the challenge.
Josep is human sorcerer 12.

I suppose there won't be anyone to ref? :/

Edit: Also, I won't be awake 12 hours from now, but I'll Challenge in... 16-17 hours? If I think of anything I'll edit it in my post above before putting it into the challenge.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:48, Tue 02 Aug 2016.

If you guys need more refs, invite people from other games to join in. Just make sure they're aware that they have to read the rules and already know how to play Pathfinder RPG.

I will Ref. If that is okay.

In reply to Erin Zilryn (msg # 124):

I'd be cool with that.

Let's do this then...
Make sure you quote my whole message when you accept the challenge.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:14, Wed 03 Aug 2016.

DUEL (1v1 PvP)
Anyone can challenge anyone else to a duel so long as they are within 3 levels of each other and both agree on a map and terms (any optional rules being used). Challenges are made in the OOC thread and discussed before the match. Once you're ready, use the Challenge Thread and a GM will open a new thread for your duel.

In reply to Ario (msg # 127):

Oh. Welp.

...think you could lower your level one, Josep?

I could. We would still need to reissue the challenge.

How about you join forces with Erin and make this a Juggernaut ?

Ario can ref if he's up for it.

Either works, though if you've got a fast way to delevel, I think I'd prefer to get in a quicker duel.

However fast it is, it would still be faster to not do it ;)
I can't edit the challenge anyway.

You could even go ahead and issue a new challenge to Erin and Josep...

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 131):

We'll need both Erin and Ario on board for that, though. Erin, Ario, thoughts?

I'm on board for watching murder happen reffing for you guys.

Guys, it is specifically against the rules to post a challenge while you're in a match. Your match isn't over until it is closed by the GM and the awards sent.

Even agreeing to referee such a match will cost you BP loss for attempting to open another one while you're already in one.

I'm tired of giving warnings about this.

No more warnings. From now on, it's just BP penalties. No ifs, ands or buts guys. Just don't do it.

Sorry >.< I thought the match was over when the ref calls it.

Double that.
Checking post times Josep Gavinho Challenge post issued Wed 3 Aug 2016
at 01:14.

Duel #202: Kecil vs. Erin.
Grunyar Fangblood Fri 29 Jul 2016 at 19:13




Did I miss something in the rules...on when I match is declared over?

Enough said.

I understand where you guys come from, but let's not argue.

Kecil or Erin, once could you issue the new challenge?
It can still be a juggernaut.

I'm fine with the conditions we discussed earlier, and leave the choice of arena/light etc to you guys.
 Ario, you still ref?

In reply to Kecil (msg # 135):

In reply to Erin Zilryn (msg # 136):

Match isn't actually over until a GM gives you your BP reward.

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In other news, Josep seems to have stolen one of my competitors over the long weekend, and Latro hasn't been on in over a week, so now I need someone new to fight.

Yeah, it's clear now, I just didn't understand beforehand. No arguments here :P

I suppose I can just challenge now, hopefully Erin's up for it.

Tina, I'll take you on after this one's finished if you'd like.

In reply to Tinny Tina (msg # 138):
 Sorry about that !
 You should spar with Ario in the meantime, he's a mean motherfucker.

I have a few questions about my build... I have most of the numbers crunched and the general build made... just, I am not quite sure how shaman familiar actually interacts with other familiar sources. it says they stack in levels for the sake of spirit animal abilities... but then if I look at the spirit animal buffs I dont see any that are really level dependent.

a common example for this is eldritch heritage.... So how would those extra levels effect a shamans spirit animal?

Additionally, does this games DM's require the greater school familiar feat for the school familiar to have the greater school power?

Alright, I'm not really familiar with the Shaman, but lemme take a crack at this


Well, a spirit animal still has familiar abilities, so the levels would stack for the purposes of the spirit animal's Intelligence score, natural armor bonus etc.


I'd say no, since spirit animal states it stacks with classes that grant familiars, and Eldritch Heritage is a feat, not a class. If you took Eldritch Heritage for a familiar, you'd end up with a spirit animal and a Familiar.


Yes.

This message was deleted by the player at 19:32, Wed 10 Aug 2016.

Erin, I don't think the declarations have to happen during the challenge. "{Name, Race, Class Level, Mythic Tier}" is all that's on the challenge template.

Either way, you're supposed to quote exactly the challenge from the previous poster, so, uh, I think that challenge is voided. Welp. Since that was my challenge, I believe you're the only one who can retry, unless Josep can technically challenge you without being a "repeat".

In reply to Ruven (msg # 143):
 I think all sources that provide a familiar simply stack. Some of the features even specify that you can't get a second familiar. That is RAI at least.

This message was deleted by the player at 19:32, Wed 10 Aug 2016.

The easy answer would be "don't take eldritch heritage for a familiar if you already have a familiar", imo

Like, nothing will probably break if you let Eldritch Heritage stack with other familiars, the biggest issue would probably be with Spell Resistance, but that probably won't actually be an issue unless you're one of those weirdos that tries to make your familiar actually fight.

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You missed something

(emphasis mine)

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Hey Ario, I'm calling you out!

 
   Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No Limit BP / 0 Hero Points
      Referee: {Name}
Participant 1: Tinny Tina, Wyrwood, Alchemist 11, 1491/1503 BP
Participant 2: Ario, Drider, Kineticist ???
Participant 3: {None}
Participant 4: {None}
          Map: Small colosseum
     Lighting: Standard Light
      Terrain: Dungeon
        Walls: Standard Masonry
         Prep: 1 round
       Extras: No flying, no burrowing, no item declarations required

In reply to Tinny Tina (msg # 147):

Is that part of the challenge, though, or just something you have to declare during initiative? Because I looked through most of the recent fights, and the latter seems to be the case.

Edit: Full block of your quote:



Since most people seem to have been declaring full details after the challenge is confirmed and sent through, I assumed that the fact that the later parts of the paragraph refer to the initiative roll meant that this was also where declarations were completed.

Additionally, both types of challenges have been accepted many times, including at one from Tina and more or less everyone else. So, as far as I can tell, either is acceptable.

Any GM ruling?
This message was last edited by the player at 07:46, Mon 08 Aug 2016.

I recommend doing it to be on the safe side.

A question does Fast Movement add to all forms of movement you have?
This message was last edited by the player at 07:31, Mon 08 Aug 2016.

In reply to Kecil (msg # 148):

Maybe? I don't even know at this point. We let a lot of things slide that we strictly shouldn't, and Arkrim hasn't yelled at us either way yet, so I guess either is good.

In reply to Erelace Barrityl (msg # 149):

It depends on the wording. The barbarian, bloodrager, and monk fast movement specify land speed, so it only affects your land speed.

Post 30 000! Woo!

Hey this is Erin if I altered my char. but the match is still a go. Can I just alter the quote on the last post for the match and accept with new char.?

If you were a referee it'd be no problem.

If you're a participant in the match it has to be completely reposted because you changed your character.

Can we delete the original challenge and repost then?

Yes.

This message was deleted by the player at 19:32, Wed 10 Aug 2016.

Using stealth you PM everything related to location to the ref - actions that can't be seen (though not what kind  of actions were taken - that stays public), position, etc.  Then you post the dc to locate, for example: DC 14 + distance, and if they make the free check at the start of their turn (or using another action during their turn) you tell them where you are.

Fog on the map has to be marked, usually with a tilde (~) in each square, and hiding things inside it still takes a stealth check.

Just got back from vacation. I'll be editing my character and ready to fight. :)

Ario! Fight me!!

In reply to Tinny Tina (msg # 159):

am I allowed to referee before I have an approved char? cause I wouldn't mind refereeing.

Was this an earlier post I missed originally?  (If so, sorry!)  I'd be happy to fight you with the 2 changes included below:

In reply to Ruven (msg # 160):

No, I'd prefer people have some practice under their belts before trying to call shots. Even if you already know the game well, we want you to get a feel for what things are like here in this arena first.

Battle in a couple of duels first.

In reply to Ario (msg # 161):

How about 1d2-1 prep rounds?

 No burrowing?! Who burrows?

 I like the 1d2-1 prep round idea. I think that should come as standard.
 An other way of saying "flip a coin; heads you have a prep round, tails you don't"

Ario burrows.

That guy...

@Kecil, @Erelace, you guys need to stop editing posts. Especially in the challenge thread.
I know there probably is a good reason for you to do it, like typos ans autocorrect, but it is a big fat no no in any situation.

Technically, I could burrow if I had a reason to.

To show off? I guess we all could, I was surprised anyone would though.
Although now that I think about it, it could be potent...

 After my fight, I'm tempted to throw the Champion Belt in a Battle Royale.
 Any takers? I owe Hiro a spot in that fight, but that leaves two spots open... Tina? Latro? Ario?

@Josep - I'd be up for taking it after I take Tina.

@Tina - You'll have to offer me something nice for the chance at a prep round - you (even without chompers) would get way more out of a prep round than I would, and you're already higher BP and disabled my burrowing.

Very well.

Anyone want to ref?

Did we lose our Ref? Ario?

In reply to Tinny Tina (msg # 171):
 I can ref you guys

I'm still available to ref, but I'm not going to put my name anywhere near that challenge - Erelace deviated from format and 2/3 of you edited your posts.  You should all delete your posts and have Josep post the challenge (as he's the last one in your group not to have an aborted challenge) and then quote his challenge and reply to it correctly, and without edits.  Hopefully Josep's words to you guys about edits and you deleting for one last try will let us all get this launched without a penalty.

Can we please figure out what we are doing where I can just fight please? I honestly do not care what the challenge is anymore or what is going on I just want at fight please.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:11, Fri 12 Aug 2016.

In reply to Erelace Barrityl (msg # 175):
 Sadly I think Ario is right.
 I've posted an illegal challenge as well (though I can't remember what the problem was, something with Erin changing character I think ?)

 I understand your frustration guys, I was like that too when I first joined.
 We need to be very thorough though when doing this, it would be too easy to just edit your posts when things don't work out the way you wanted them to.

 If one one of the newer players wants to join in this fight, they could post the challenge. Just follow the instructions in the thread, to the letter.

 It would make for a more interesting juggernaut if it's a 3v1 anyways.

I edited because the rules are to "NEVER edit your challenge or acceptance posts after someone else has responded", emphasis mine. I'm feeling really tangled up in the rules here, because I can't really tell what "the letter" of "following rules to the letter" is.

Okay I will delete my challenge post and we will try this again.

 Sounds good !

In reply to Josep Gavinho (msg # 169):

You know, I'd love to, but I can't. Championship matches are veteran-only, and even after my match with Ario I'm one fight short of the 10 needed.

In reply to Tinny Tina (msg # 180):
 Well if you wrap it fast enough, maybe you can squeeze an other fight before that ;)

Well I can't wrap it up fast if it doesn't start!

dammit josep you're holding up my match!!

In reply to Tinny Tina (msg # 183):
 Aargh sorry dude I had forgotten I was meant to ref that.
 And here I was, wondering what Arkrim was waiting for...

Someone! Fight me!

 Are you going to bring catapults to the fight?!

You already ruled against that!!

You guys want to put "books" as a new option for Challenges? We only use Corebook + Arena threads + Book x and Book y" so the ref knows exactly where to look? I mean, it's all online anyhoo, I didn't think that part was difficult.

Also...


This has always been the INTENT of the arena, but I added a full explanation of it when I updated the rules into a consolidated thread.
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:41, Thu 01 Sept 2016.

A new challenger has entered the arena! Everyone please welcome Cronwier!

Yes, hello all...
Please go easy, it has been a while since I built a character entirely for combat.
Looking forward to many a pleasant match xD.

Welcome Cronwier

So who wants to be my first opponent?
It is probably an easy win, I don't really know how this build will go so....

Welcome Cronwier!

Yeah, the other people your level are locked in epic combat with J. Gavinho.

Yeah I see he still holds the champions belt and the most damage in a round record...

Don't forget guys, you can always LOWER your BP for a match to pick on the new---erhm, I mean, fairly compete with other gladiators despite having different BP levels.

I'm reworking a little for a match with Tina just been very busy lately so is taking a while :)

In that case Cronwier, Outside to Outsider, wanna have a match?

I wouldn't mind reducing my BP to 450. It might take me awhile to build my character to that level.

What say you?

Sure, I need to mess with my character to use up my remaining BP anyway so I'm happy to wait a little, I'll probably get wrecked given that you'd have a 115bp advantage on me but I'm willing to get slapped around by a suli barbarian. Do you have any special requests?

Well, I just jumped to level 10, once the BP is confirmed and the match officially closed. I thought my life would continue to be stressful and busy, but it looks okay for awhile (Oct 6-8th is going to be rough but should be fine other than that). Anyone want to start thinking about a fight?

(Also, welcome Cronwier, good luck and have fun!)
This message was last edited by the player at 05:38, Thu 29 Sept 2016.

How about this?

Cronwier foolishly challenges Bruhli to a duel.

Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: 450 BP/ Hero Points
      Referee: ??????????
Participant 1: Cronwier, ????????
Participant 2: Bruhli, ????????
          Map: Random
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep:
       Extras: No flying, no invisibility or invisibility like effects, no burrowing, no climbing


We'll say no hero points because you likely don't have any.

I'll need 1 prep round as it is a full round action to summon my weapons. But otherwise sure, anyone want to ref for us?

Edit to clarify:

Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: 450 BP/ 0 Hero Points
      Referee: ??????????
Participant 1: Cronwier, Aasimar, Spiritualist(Ectoplasmatist) 6/Monk(Martial Artist) 1, 322/335 BP
Participant 2: Bruhli, ????????
          Map: Random
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1 round
       Extras: No flying, no invisibility or invisibility like effects, no burrowing, no climbing
This message was last edited by the player at 05:38, Fri 30 Sept 2016.

Oh boy. I believe there aren't any restrictions on refereeing that prevent me from doing so, maybe it's time for me to try it? At the very least, it'll increase my appreciation for the work that goes in...

Sure, if it works, I'll ref.

Thanks Kecil. Also, I reduced the BP limit to 400. So we should be very close. I'm ready to go when you are

Bruhli challenges Cronwier.


   Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: 400 BP / 0 Hero Points
      Referee: Kecil
Participant 1: Cronwier, Aasimar, Spiritualist(Ectoplasmatist) 6/Monk(Martial Artist) 1, 322/335 BP
Participant 2: Bruhli, Suli, Warpriest 6/Barbarian 2, 400/819
Participant 3: {None}
Participant 4: {None}
          Map: Random
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1 prep round
       Extras: No flying, no invisibility or invisibility like effects, no burrowing, no climbing

OOC: Friendly smack-talk and sportsmanship.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:08, Sun 02 Oct 2016.

Dang you guys, I'm gone for two and a half months and one of my battles is still on the front page? Step it up!

BTW, please continue to use the original BP table until everything is finalized.

Also, be aware, that this means we still don't truly advance beyond 20th level. We're just using mythic ranks to simulate level 21-30. Although, people can get them earlier by RAW in order to use them here it must be agreed upon beforehand.
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:08, Wed 05 Oct 2016.

Everyone voting "yes" in the poll please select option 1 or option 2.
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:13, Sun 09 Oct 2016.

Dang, I should've stalled the game with Josep for awhile, could've gotten a huge payout XD

Edit: Speaking of which: Anyone know the procedure for lowered BP cap? I've seen a few where people simply didn't use all of the BP, which makes it seem like I should just use each player's max BP, but it feels kind of bad giving someone less BP because they offered to drop down to fight someone.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:35, Wed 12 Oct 2016.

I will retroactively update everyone's last battle (whenever it was) to the new rewards system once it goes into effect. Still waiting on a few stragglers. I may just have to ignore their vote if they don't choose an option.

Well that went better than I thought it would....

In reply to Cronwier (msg # 209):

Yeah, 26 AC is nothing to sneeze at. Well done, I look forward to seeing your other matches.

One thing I've realized, people have crazy builds here. One of my favorite aspects is just to see what people come up with.

That was with me being two feats down.... As I thought racial sla's would allow me to use arcane strike....

Okay. I have been gone for a bit. I finally getting up and active again. I do have two questions.

One, I having a little trouble with Natural weapon rules in pathfinder. My Main problem is that I have 2x claws that count as primary weapon. Now what I don't understand is if I have a BAB that Allows me to have 3 Attacks a round can the all three be claw attacks or not? I do understand that I lose the benefit of them being primary on the 3rd attack. But it seems like the rules say I can't use them at all.


Two, I have Chthonic Steel Marked on my sheet for my armor. I pulls this off of the http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipm...al/special-materials. Now the GM Arkrim has not pulled it from my sheet. But in my last match it was ruled as  Chthonic steel is not a legal arena material. I will happily remove from my sheet I don't feel like getting disqualified and possibly even banned for it. It does come from this book https://www.opengamingstore.co...and-power-components which does carry the pathfinder logo from Rites Publishing. I do not mean to cheat or break any rules just wish for father clarification is all.

1) Additional attacks from high base attack bonus only apply to manufactured weapons and unarmed strikes (with one exception). You can only make one attack with each natural weapon. If you make a full attack and use natural weapons, you have two options:

1. You only use your natural weapons. Any natural weapons that are primary use your your full base attack bonus and add your full strength modifier to damage. Any natural weapons that are secondary use your base attack bonus -5 and only add half your strength to damage
   
2. You make attacks with both manufactured weapons and natural weapons. Your manufactured weapons use your base attack bonus, including any extra attacks from having a high base attack bonus. All natural weapons are treated as secondary weapons, so they all use your BAB -5 to hit, and only add half your strength to damage

The only exception to this is the feat Feral Combat Training, which lets you use one natural weapon with the monk's flurry of blows (and ONLY flurry of blows, if you use any other full-attack equivalent, your chosen natural weapon uses the normal natural weapon rules above).


2) link to a message in this game

Emphasis mine

Well in that case I will pull it from my sheet. I am sorry for the confusion on my part.

Awesome, thanks!



Yeah, I'm not sure it would have made the difference, but being two feats down is rough. Would've been closer, though.

Match Type: SURVIVAL MISSION
BP/Hero Limit: No limit/No limit
      Referee: ??????????
Participant 1: Erelace Barrityl Bloodrager 8 493/543 BP
          Map: Random
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1 round
       Extras: None

Looking for anyone wishing to join or not. Would not mind someone with some range in case of flyers. I do not want any time between waves if that is possible without adding a Hero point cost. Need a Referee.

Hi All!

Guess what? I'm still alive!

So anyone alive want to ref or join me?

Maelstrom rocks back in forth in his armchair. So Erelace, you want to do a survival mission. I did one of those when I was your age.

Good luck

Not worried I am on a time limit so I want to test the speed at which I can kill targets. My only concern is fliers and burrows. Beyond that I have a 23 round limit till I burned out and I am all but useless. This will be a test of the limits of my character atm. Plus a good bump to my BP.

I would join in if I had a hero point to buy in, though I'm limited by spells per day so it would mainly just be me taking aoos at people.

If it is allowed I be nice an pay your buy in. Not really worried about you AOO I have a decent SR.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:50, Sat 15 Oct 2016.

I'd be up for a survival mission if there was time between waves to heal and such (if buffs and/or summoning are allowed in that time, even better).

I could be fine if you got spells to pull me out of fatigue quick enough Kecil.

In reply to Erelace Barrityl (msg # 224):

I don't have any in my spell list, but I can get points in UMD and pick up a wand or some scrolls of Lesser Restoration.

Edit: Actually, without time between combats, would my summons persist into the next fight? If so, it's probably better for me if there's no break, too.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:38, Sat 15 Oct 2016.

NEW BP SYSTEM IMPLEMENTED 10/15/2016

The rewards have more than tripled. I highly encourage everyone to start taking advantage of the new rewards!
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:38, Sat 15 Oct 2016.

Lol, welcome back Hiro! Does this mean the guild is no longer mine? Maybe you can so these youngin's how survival missions are supposed to happen.

Erelace, I see what you did there. Funny

Because the GM determines the monster waves, does this mean survival missions run by the GM? If so, we'd have to see if the GM has the time

In reply to Maelstrom (msg # 227):

A referee can run a survival match or monster hunt.

And welcome back Hiro! Any chance you'll try to claim that championship belt again? Or perhaps train a pupil to do so for you?

I'll have to see how work is going to go, but I might join y'all in this survival mission.

Sounds good.

Anyone else getting this error in pm I have not been able to send a private message for two days.

I too am receiving that error.

I sent out an rMail to the mods. I will let someone know as soon as I know something.

It is just for this game. I'm assuming a pm limit was hit.

I tried deleting some PMs. That didn't seem to work. I'm getting the error too.

I heard back from the modrator its a site problem its been passed up to a Adim.

Welp, since this seems to have come to a halt, I suppose I'll ask: Anyone want to fight me in a standard 1v1 duel? Simple, easy, shouldn't require PMs.

That is, if I can. The BP changes and lack of final GM post on my last match make me think i might have to wait for an update on that front. GM, verdict? And if I can begin a new duel, and do so, would I lose the increase BP from my last match?

Don't need a final gm post - look to see if it's been locked and if your bp has been added to your sheet.

The thread's locked, and BP has been added, but apparently we're getting the new BP for our last fight (and in this case, that BP would get me one, maybe two levels)?

I suppose I can probably fight at my current BP, but would that make my "last fight" the new one, and deprive me of the increased payout from the previous? My instinct says no, in which case I can just fight someone at my current 681 BP. If that's the case, anyone at 10th-14th level want to fight me?

I like Kecil's idea. Anyone with less than 600 BP willing to duel me before we get into a survival match?

In reply to Cronwier (msg # 239):

I could duel you at 450?

Okay, I'm seriously scared of summoners but lets do it. Other than at least 1 prep round I don't have any special requests. Though I'll need to quickly change my sheet as I have a different build for dueling than I do for the survival match.

How's this look?

Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: 454 BP limit / 0 Hero Points
      Referee: ???
Participant 1: Kecil, Human Summoner 8
Participant 2: Cronwier, (info)
          Map: Small Colloseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1 round
       Extras: None

Also, any refs?

Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: 454 BP limit / 0 Hero Points
      Referee: ???
Participant 1: Kecil, Human Summoner 8
Participant 2: Cronwier, Aasimar Spiritualist 7, Monk 1
          Map: Small Colloseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1 round
       Extras: None

And done with editing the sheet.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:38, Fri 28 Oct 2016.

Okay, now all we need is a referee. Any takers?

I'll ref for you guys.

I'd be up for some kind of match... 2v1 juggernaut? 1v1 melee combat? Survival?

So we fine with this?

In reply to Cronwier (msg # 247):

Yep. I'll challenge now.

I do apologize for my absence. Work was my opportune time to play. Due to policy changes, because some people stopped getting their work done, we no longer have free reign on the PC while working. But we are starting to get it back a few hours a day. literally 2 hours. So I might start being active once more. Sorry for the silence.

Instant gratification and power up! YAY.

I'll also reread the rules thread and see what I need to do. Changes are faster and faster it in here.

----

Anyone up for a match?
This message was last edited by the player at 07:47, Sun 06 Nov 2016.

Are the Unchained classes allowed? I'm unsure of whether they count as base classes or not.

In reply to Dharam Nire (msg # 250):

A few people have used them. I imagine that would be a yes unless anything has changed. I would look over a few of that past polls and rules thread. Anything Paizo is explicitly legal unless they are explicitly banned. The banned material is listed. Double check it.

Ugrim/Latro are you available for a Match? Kinda dead at the moment. If you need time between posts, we can set a 4 day rule or something. That, or I may have to bug wait for Ario to finish and see if he will run a monster match for me or something.

-----

Edit Note:

GM Arkrim, with the slow down happening, would you run something if I can't get a response within a week or something?
This message was last edited by the player at 09:23, Sun 13 Nov 2016.

On advancing in level, do we get our previous level purchase refunded when we level up? for example, if I am 5th level and want to buy 6th level, will it cost me an additional 55 BP (160-105) or an additional 160 BP?

The cost next to each level on the table is the total cost. So yes, if you're level 5 and want to advance to level 6, you only have to spend an additional 55 BP to do so.

OK thank you, that is a much more elegant way of doing it. Otherwise, I would have saved up instead of buying level 6 now.

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 251):

Looks like my battle's closed. I'd be up for a duel if the people you mentioned aren't up for it.

Hey Arkrim, it looks like I did not get the 101 BP when you locked duel 206.  (mentioning it here b/c the pm's are still not working for me)
This message was last edited by the player at 22:30, Tue 15 Nov 2016.

For future reference, if anything is wrong with the character sheet, guys, please mention it before you edit the sheet. Thanks.

Thraxis, you're updated.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:47, Wed 16 Nov 2016.

I'm free to duel again if anyone is interested.

In reply to Kecil (msg # 255):

You're a little more powerful than myself. but I'm okay with that. I need a few to finish my sheet. just little tid bits.

Edit Note:

You are welcomed to start negotiating arena and lighting. etc.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:07, Thu 17 Nov 2016.

Cronwier, I'm up to duel if you'd like, I believe. I need to allocate some last BP from char. sheet accuracy (I'm not sure whether I got the full 140 that you mentioned from accurate racial traits, GM, please confirm) and then I'll be ready to go.

As for arena preferences, I'd like something with interesting terrain, and for anything else I don't care much. Low light could be fun.

In reply to Dharam Nire (msg # 260):

Would you like a bp limit? I can do 507 really easy with basically no changes, anything lower and it might take a little while.


Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit:
      Referee: ???
Participant 1: Cronwier, Aasimar Spiritualist ?, Monk 1
Participant 2: Dharam Nire, Catfolk Monk ?
          Map: Cliffhanger Small or Large
     Lighting: Low Light
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1 round
       Extras: None

Don't really care about a limit. I'm probably going to get my ass whupped anywas, I'm just in it for the experience and the BP. No expectations of winning

In reply to Jayce the Tamer (msg # 259):

Is this okay?
Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No BP Limit / 0 Hero Points
      Referee: ???
Participant 1: Kecil
Participant 2: Jayce the Tamer
          Map: Small Colloseum
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: None
       Extras: None

Do you have any other preferences then or a map other than cliffhanger that you would like?
You might win, I haven't had much luck in my last two matches.

Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No BP Limit/ 0 Hero Points
      Referee: ???
Participant 1: Cronwier, Aasimar Spiritualist 8, Monk 1, 547/555 BP Used
Participant 2: Dharam Nire, Catfolk Monk ?
          Map: Cliffhanger Small or Large
     Lighting: Low Light
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1 round
       Extras: None

Yes I'm fine with it. Tinny Tina, would you be willing to ref?

yea sure

PM because PMs aren't working...

Response

Alright, if you are ok, I'll get started or you can get started initiating the challenge.

So, since it doesn't look like the Admins are coming anytime soon, I purged all the PMs in hopes that they would start working again...and it seems to have worked for me.

I can send Private Messages here again.

Everyone who needs to send me a PM, please list the subject as:

Access to The Arena [Pathfinder]

(copy/paste the above exactly, please)

This will create a new PM thread with the GM that you will use any time you need to contact me.

Also, feel free to PM your fellow gladiators to test it out. Let me know how its working for everyone.

So I got PMs from several of you. All but one of them seemed to run perfectly fine. If you don't see your PM, try sending another one.

Dharam, I'm getting your PMs but can't respond to them without getting an error. You're sending them in a different format than everyone else. Try just a regular PM to just me with the subject listed above.

Can everyone see the Private Note at the bottom of their character sheets?

Yep, they are visible but uneditable by players.

Okay just double checking.

Hi, guys. I'm new here! Anyone want to pop my arena cherry and be a bit patient while I learn? I'm just getting approved for the character now.

'Ello, welcome to the game.

Dharam, perhaps you should fight Annie for your first match instead of me. You two would be on a more even playing field. I could ref it if you wanted. If not I am happy to fight either or both of you...

That sounds like a good idea. Annie, I am also brand new! You up for a battle once you're all sorted?

Love to! I'd request a 1-or-more-rounds of prep time match, but otherwise I leave all the details up to you!

Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No BP Limit/ 0 Hero Points
      Referee: ???
Participant 1: Annie Mossity, Gathlain Oracle ?
Participant 2: Dharam Nire, Catfolk Monk 7
          Map: Cliffhanger Small or Large
     Lighting: Low Light
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1 round
       Extras: None


Howsabout?

Sounds good, will post when I'm confirmed. I should note for the Cliffhanger map than I am a flying race if you still want to go that route.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:43, Wed 23 Nov 2016.

I am aware and buying nets

I'll ref if no one else wants to...

Edit: Dharam that will get declined. It should be something like this:
Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: No BP Limit/ 0 Hero Points
      Referee: Cronwier
Participant 1: Annie Mossity, Gathlain Oracle ?
Participant 2: Dharam Nire, Catfolk Monk 7
          Map: Cliffhanger Small or Large
     Lighting: Low Light
      Terrain: Standard
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1 round
       Extras: None
And you'd need to fill in what level Annie is and your BP Spent/Total. Or at least that is my understanding... Never mind that, Kecil and Jayce's match got accepted without it so don't worry about it, though you should have listed me or someone else as ref... So it still might be declined.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:39, Thu 24 Nov 2016.

Well Kecil, one round in and you are giving me a run for my money. I like it. I am going to rules lawyer to death. Do the same.

Y'see, I'm not here to rules lawyer people to death, I'm here to see how my builds stand up to others'. It's precisely that sort of thing that makes me think this arena is not for me.

Dharam - I wanted to let you know I'm going to have to cancel the duel request.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:47, Fri 16 Dec 2016.

So anyone up for a duel?

I believe this is how I request a most damage in one round record:

link to a message in this game

(page 3)

Hopefully it's valid?

In reply to Cronwier (msg # 287):

I will be soon. But I'm like, way overpowered for you. so we can duel either with me dropping power or you increasing in power. Or a mixture of both. Such as finding a good in between point.

Dharam, sorry it took so long - lots of miscommunication. Ready to go if you are.

I'll be ready soon too :)

Like, tomorrow. I don't know how many we are with low bp... But if we're three maybe we could do a cool battle together, battle royale or juggernaut fight? :D

I'd be up for juggernauting. I'd even be up for lowering my BP to Dominator level (so my BP is lower than any two of the three)
This message was last edited by the player at 23:15, Fri 16 Dec 2016.

Or perhaps a Monster Mash, Kecil? :D I need BP and to try out the arena a little bit!

Ehhh, I'd prefer to do normal PvP, sorry.

Oh well, I'm up for normal PvPs as well. Juggernaut would be cool!

Anyone else want to fight? Otherwise we've got no juggernauting at all.

Excited to try this out! Anyone want to fight? I could probably recalculate my character to fight on a higher level or so, if that's allowed. Or fight in any other way :)

I'd love to, Groppo. We'll have to wait until after the holidays, though - I won't be back 'til the 28th.

Cool! I'll wait then :D

Are you up for facing a juggernaut, Annie? I'd be happy to lower my BP to up to the minimum (495 vs you two). Or if we can get another, ideally, I'd put it at just less than the highest two BP totals.

Merry Christmas, to all, and to all, a Good Night!

I'm back! Groppo, let's roll 1v1 and we'll do a juggernaut match after! One round prep, any arena of your choice.

Sure! I'll look at it tomorrow or day after, off to work now :)

Hi everyone - first-time in an arena game, looking forward to getting my arse handed to me. ^_^

I'd be happy to be the third for the aforementioned juggernaut match if that's still on the table.

Hi, Grace. Love the description.

Thanks - glad you liked it!

I call dibs on having a crack at the aasimar after she has had a match or two.... Cronwier doesn't like his kind for a variety of reasons.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:04, Thu 29 Dec 2016.

Nobody responded to Dharam Nire's request. I deleted his challenge.

You guys can set up a new match if someone wants.

Clearly. I suspect that match will be significantly less friendly than Grace might usually prefer.

I'll wait and see if the Juggernaut's going to happen first. I do admit I'm having fun thinking about other aspects of the gladiatorial arena, and Swordaine's culture in general. For example - given that every PC here is presumably the setting's equivalent of elite sportspeople, there's almost definitely merchandise of us somewhere. What would that look like?

Ok!
Small Quatravo, low ceiling (25ft), dungeon/underground, standard light.

Oh, a question... My race is stated as "gnome" as that's what I sent to the GMs before I got to build my character. Can I still add other racial features (play 'advanced gnome')?

Sounds good. How to we alert a GM to set one up?

Sorry, still need to look over my character sheet so I'm sure not to have any penalties on me (considering the race thing for example) :) Will be done tomorrow. And it seems I got 100 points from the poll, I'll stick with the 330 I had when we started talking about this though, ok?

Done and ready! So we need a ref?

In reply to Groppo (msg # 312):
As long as nothing has changed just on your next challenge post identify yourself as new race and put it in the extras

This message was last edited by the player at 04:23, Sat 31 Dec 2016.

I'll ref if no one else is interested...

I'm still around for the juggernaut, just letting popping in since it's been awhile. Good luck with your match, and I'll be setting up at 730 BP for Annie, Groppo, and Grace :)

Edit: Wait, shoot. I'll actually be setting up at the total left after the fight, so that'll be higher.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:27, Sat 31 Dec 2016.

Cool, looking forward to that Juggernaut, although I'm not looking forward to fighting your zoo... :P

How about this? Fill in your details and we'll post it as a challenge :)

Groppo challenges Annie Mossity.


   Match Type: 1v1
BP/Hero Limit: 330 BP / 0 Hero Points
      Referee: Cronwier
Participant 1: Groppo, Advanced Gnome, Fighter 6; 2x gnome hooked hammer, chainmail, composite longbow, arrows, belt, cloak, 3 potions, free gear
Participant 2: {Name, Race, Class Level, Mythic Tier} or {Monster Name CR00}
          Map: Small Quatravo
     Lighting: Standard
      Terrain: Dungeon/Underground
        Walls: Standard
         Prep: 1 prep round
       Extras: Low ceiling (25ft from floor to ceiling). Groppo is now Advanced Gnome.

This message was last edited by the player at 13:35, Sat 31 Dec 2016.