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Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim.

Posted by GM ArkrimFor group 0
Brakt
Fighter 1,328, 452 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Tue 21 Nov 2017
at 01:47
  • msg #15

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

Brakt dropped down into the Arena, finding it easier to climb over the wall, rather then squeeze through the tiny Orc-sized door.

"Tiny?!" Brakt was almost enraged as he eyed enraged Orc. "I'll show you tiny!"

The ogre mutters a few words, and his cloak swirled around him for a moment, kicking up a cloud of dust.  Where the Ogre had stood before, there was now a monster.   He laughed at the Ogre's puny sword, and slipped his scythe easily into his hands, eyeing the Orc off.


 ABCDEFGHIJ 
1BBB       1
2BBB       2
3BBB       3
4          4
5          5
6          6
7          7
8       U  8
9          9
10          10
 ABCDEFGHIJ 

U = Ugrim
B = Brakt

   ROUND: Prep 1 (10)
POSITION: A1:C3
 ACTIONS: Activate Cloak (Full Round), Draw Scythe (Free)

 HP: 143/143 (0 nonlethal)
 AC: 17; FFAC: 15; Touch: 10
CMD: 32; FFCMD: 29; FFTAC: 08


EFFECTS:

Enlarge Person: 1/12 (Huge Size, 15" Reach, +2 Str, -2 Dex.)

   GEAR: - Amulet, Spiked Chain Shirt, Belt, Scythe (Equipped), Free Gear (Light Load)
   USES: Amulet (1/1), Cloak(1/1, 0/1)

DICE ROLLS: -
   SUMMARY: Brakt gets bigger and waits.

OOC: Tiny?
Brakt
Fighter 1,328, 453 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Tue 21 Nov 2017
at 02:47
  • msg #16

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

OOC: Addendum to last post.  Are you able to provide the hardness/hp of your weapon please?

Assuming Free gear like Cap etc. is 0/2, as it's made of cloth, and approx 1' thick.

Ugrim
Barbarian 1,249, 523 posts
Adv. Orc Barbar/Fighter
Shadow's Caress
Tue 21 Nov 2017
at 13:16
  • msg #17

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

OOC: My weapon's Hardness is 28 and it's HP is 53

"Ugrim no care how big you are!" Ugrim shouts "You still tiny to Ugrim!"

Ugrim wastes no time in charging the not-so-tiny ogre in front of him. Drawing his weapon as he charges in, Ugrim grips his sword in both hands and delivers 3 insanely strong strikes to brakt followed by a piercing bite attack.
The blows devastate the Orge, sending him to the floor instantly.

"Ugrim is the strongest!" Ugrim bellows beating his chest in triumph. "None are stronger than Ugrim!"

 ABCDEFGHIJ 
1BBB       1
2BBB       2
3BBB       3
4   U      4
5          5
6          6
7          7
8          8
9          9
10          10
 ABCDEFGHIJ 

U = Ugrim
B = Brakt

   ROUND: 1 (21)
POSITION: H8 to D4
 ACTIONS: Charge to D4 (Full Round), Draw Weapon as part of Charge (Free)

 HP: 207/207 (0 nonlethal) (Dead at -24), DR 5/-, (DR 10/- vs NL), Fire Resist 2
 AC: 13 (8); FFAC: 11 (6); Touch: 10 (5)
CMD: 30 (25); FFCMD: 28 (23); FFTAC: 8 (3)

EFFECTS:

Displacement 2/5
Rage 2/26

   GEAR: - Cap, Headband, Shirt, Belt, Nodachi, Potion x2
   USES: Potion of Displacement x1

DICE ROLLS:

07:01, Today: Ugrim rolled 41,40,22,19 using 1d20+26,1d20+21,1d20+16,1d20+17 with rolls of 15,19,6,2.  Rage Charge Power Attack Reckless Abandon Pounce, 3 Nodachi attacks + 1 bite attack vs AC17.

07:03, Today: Ugrim rolled 32,40 using 1d20+26,1d20+21 with rolls of 6,19.  2 critical threats.
07:05, Today: Ugrim rolled 66 using 2d10+52 with rolls of 9,5.  Damage Nodachi Strike 1 (Critical hit).
07:05, Today: Ugrim rolled 62 using 2d10+52 with rolls of 8,2.  Damage Nodachi Strike 2 (Critical hit).
07:06, Today: Ugrim rolled 35,11 using 1d10+28,1d4+7 with rolls of 7,4.  Damage Nodachi Strike 3 and bite.


   SUMMARY: Ugrim lays waste to Brakt. He deals a walloping 174 damage, killing him outright.

OOC: So, uh, I guess thats game then, huh?
Brakt
Fighter 1,328, 455 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Wed 22 Nov 2017
at 01:09
  • msg #18

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

As the Orc approached, Brakkt's scythe smashed into the side of the approaching Nodachi, and while not destroying the weapon in full, at least making it harder for the Orc to hit.  As the weapons came into contact, a lound burst seemed to knock the Ogre back almost as much as the Orc.


HP: 138/143 (0 nonlethal)
AC: 17; FFAC: 15; Touch: 10
CMD: 32; FFCMD: 29; FFTAC: 08


Dice Rolls:

12:01, Today: Brakt rolled 41,7,5,5 using 3d6+31,2d6,2d6,1d6 with rolls of 1,4,5,5,2,2,3,5.  Power Attack/Bane/Vicious/Self.
12:00, Today: Brakt rolled 39 using 1d20+32 with rolls of 7.  Sunder Power Attack Furious Focus AoO vs CMD25.
12:07, Today: Brakt rolled 65 using 1d100 with rolls of 65.  Displacement Check.  Miss on 1-50.


Summary: Brakt makes an AoO as Ugrim approaches, dealing 45 damage and breaking his Nodaichi.  Ugrim now takes -2 to all attacks with his Nodaichi, and only crits with a natural 20.  Brakt takes 5 damage from his Vicious weapon.

OOC: Not quite dead I think.  I'll leave the damage calculations to you RE the crits.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6274 posts
Game Master
Wed 22 Nov 2017
at 01:59
  • msg #19

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

OOC: Just chiming in.

A magic weapon's hardness is only twice it's enhancement bonus + item's normal hardness.

Keen, flaming, vicious, etc. don't add to that calculation.

An adamantine item's HP is equal to 1/3 greater than the regular item's HP AND THEN +10 per enhancement bonus.

Remember, magical enhancements are always added LAST. You do materials first and separately unless they EXPLICITLY note otherwise (which adamantine does not).

Just FYI, you need to recalculate appropriately.

This message was last edited by the GM at 02:00, Wed 22 Nov 2017.
Brakt
Fighter 1,328, 456 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Wed 22 Nov 2017
at 04:56
  • msg #20

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

OOC: I don't know the exact details of your weapon, but by my calculations, you'd need at least +6 to have more then 20 hardness.

Assuming you don't have more than 20, your weapon will take the full 53 damage, and any extra damage beyond this amount will be passed onto you.

Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 1,822, 679 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Wed 22 Nov 2017
at 05:47
  • msg #21

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

OOC: the weapon has a hardness of at least 24 it depends on how/if the furious enchant effects the hardness/HP.  I believe that is what Ugrim was adding to get the 28, so my ruff calculation it is either Hardness 24 HP 33 or Hardness 28 HP 53.  I have not had a lot of time to look around and find an answer on wether the +2 from the enchant effects hp/hardness
GM Arkrim
GM, 6277 posts
Game Master
Wed 22 Nov 2017
at 06:19
  • msg #22

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

OOC: Hmmm, there's nothing explicitly mentioning TEMPORARY enhancement bonuses affecting that. I suppose it doesn't really matter if the HP is treated as temporary HP or actual HP for items really.
Brakt
Fighter 1,328, 457 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Wed 22 Nov 2017
at 06:39
  • msg #23

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

OOC: Ugh.  Just reread the rules, and Adamatine only ignores hardness less then 20. It doesn't ignore 20 and apply the rest.

Based on hardness of 28, I would do 25 damage to the Nodaichi, which isn't enough to break it.

I guess I'm dead after all :)


Brakt lost, is Lawful Neutral, has 1,328BP, and used 0 hero points.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6278 posts
Game Master
Wed 22 Nov 2017
at 13:34
  • msg #24

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

In reply to Brakt (msg # 23):

The errata changed that:

Equipment Errata:
Ignoring Hardness: Anywhere any effect says "Ignores hardness below X" replace it with "Ignores the first X points of hardness".


If both weapons are adamantine, and one is a +4 (temporarily) and the other is a +1, that's hardness 28 vs. ignores first 22 points of hardness.

So your damage is only reduced by 6 points down to 39.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:35, Wed 22 Nov 2017.
Ugrim
Barbarian 1,249, 524 posts
Adv. Orc Barbar/Fighter
Shadow's Caress
Wed 22 Nov 2017
at 15:56
  • msg #25

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

Oh my. So many ups and downs while i was at work.
Ok, so, just a couple of points of note that i'd like cleared up before i re-roll damage, if necessary.

1st, can someone even use power attack when it's not their turn?

2nd, even if the adamantine weapon were enchanted, adamantine RAW says "ignores hardness below 20" so wouldn't that mean his weapon ignores only the first 20 hardness in the arena and my weapon would take only 37 damage? I don't see anywhere in the arena rules that the enchantment bonus is added to what an adamantine weapon is allowed to ignore up to but perhaps that's just something i missed altogether.

2nd.5, i'm seeing Arkrim is't counting the extra damage from bane and vicious which leads me to believe that the bane and vicious enchantments don't count when dealing damage to someone's equipment. So wouldn't that mean the damage would be reduced by an extra 2 points of damage for grand total of 35 damage?
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 1,822, 680 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Wed 22 Nov 2017
at 23:56
  • msg #26

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

OOC: Power attack is legal to start during any attack roll just the following rolls that round take the penalty.

The errata:
quote:
Ignoring Hardness: Anywhere any effect says "Ignores hardness below X" replace it with "Ignores the first X points of hardness".
. Is an arena errata in the rules section.

I do not see the damage reduction you speak of.

GM Arkrim
GM, 6280 posts
Game Master
Thu 23 Nov 2017
at 03:11
  • msg #27

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

In reply to Ugrim (msg # 25):

I didn't exclude anything.

Brakt is the one that said he dealt 45.

45 - 6 = 39.

If Brakt didn't do his math right, I leave that to the referee to take care of.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 1,822, 681 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Thu 23 Nov 2017
at 11:51
  • msg #28

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

OOC: after getting some needed rest I see what Ugrim is talking about.  Brakt had already subtracted 8 damage for the difference in hardness ignored and Ugrim's weapon.  So the weapon is dealt 47 damage and is Broken.
Ugrim
Barbarian 1,249, 525 posts
Adv. Orc Barbar/Fighter
Shadow's Caress
Thu 23 Nov 2017
at 12:19
  • msg #29

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

Oh. My fault. I was doing math weird in my head.


Well then,  i will just confirm that Brakt does indeed have a way to not be flatfooted in the first round of combat so that he can make that AoO.


If this is indeed confirmed, please find my re-rolled damage below as Brakt requested i do. As he did not request i reroll the attacks themselves i will use the original rolls + bonuses -2 to determine if they hit or not (they do.)
So, all i need to do is re-roll one set of damage, that of the first critical.
Here's the reason:
Yes now that my weapon is broken it would only crit on a roll of 20, BUT my weapon also has the keen property. And nowhere does it say that magic items lose their magical properties once broken. So keen would increase this to 19-20/x2 resulting in my second attack still scoring a critical threat and hit. Seeing as my nodachi has a x2 multiplier in the first place, the damage remains the same so there is no need to re-roll it.


So, i give to you the re-rolled damage for the one once-critical-hit:

06:00, Today: Ugrim rolled 29 using 1d10+28 with rolls of 1.  former critical hit now non critical hit damage.
07:05, Tue 21 Nov: Ugrim rolled 62 using 2d10+52 with rolls of 8,2.  Damage Nodachi Strike 2 (Critical hit).
07:06, Tue 21 Nov: Ugrim rolled 35,11 using 1d10+28,1d4+7 with rolls of 7,4.  Damage Nodachi Strike 3 and bite.



Brakt's damage now looks like this:
137 damage from Ugrim's onslaught and 5 damage from his own weapon.

Brakt, you're at 1 HP. And honestly, I'm not about to let you get a x4 crit against me so:


Hero Point (Standard action)
Ugrim raises his sword up high and brings it down upon the badly beaten Ogre finishing him off before he has a chance to do anything else.

06:12, Today: Ugrim rolled 40 using 1d20+22 with rolls of 18.  Hero Point: Extra Standard attack - Rage Power Attack Reckless Abandon Broken Weapon.
06:12, Today: Ugrim rolled 36 using 1d10+28 with rolls of 8.  Hero point Extra Standard Attack - Damage.

Brakt takes an extra 36 damage from Ugrim's Hero Point attack. Brakt is most definitely dead as a door knob now.



Ugrim wins, is Chaotic Neutral, has 1,249 BP, and used 1 hero point.

Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 1,822, 682 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Thu 23 Nov 2017
at 12:28
  • msg #30

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

Brakt is indeed able to make AoO while FF
GM Arkrim
GM, 6282 posts
Game Master
Thu 23 Nov 2017
at 16:49
  • msg #31

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

Ugrim:
07:01, Today: Ugrim rolled 41,40,22,19 using 1d20+26,1d20+21,1d20+16,1d20+17 with rolls of 15,19,6,2.  Rage Charge Power Attack Reckless Abandon Pounce, 3 Nodachi attacks + 1 bite attack vs AC17.


Ugrim:
So, i give to you the re-rolled damage for the one once-critical-hit:
06:00, Today: Ugrim rolled 29 using 1d10+28 with rolls of 1.  former critical hit now non critical hit damage.
07:05, Tue 21 Nov: Ugrim rolled 62 using 2d10+52 with rolls of 8,2.  Damage Nodachi Strike 2 (Critical hit).
07:06, Tue 21 Nov: Ugrim rolled 35,11 using 1d10+28,1d4+7 with rolls of 7,4.  Damage Nodachi Strike 3 and bite.


If the item is a weapon, any attacks made with the item suffer a –2 penalty on attack and damage rolls. Such weapons only score a critical hit on a natural 20 and only deal ×2 damage on a confirmed critical hit.


Chronological order of operations: apply base item (enhancements) and then apply conditions (superseding them).
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:58, Thu 23 Nov 2017.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 1,822, 683 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Fri 24 Nov 2017
at 02:38
  • msg #32

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

Thank you GM, Ugrim's logic sounded right so I did not even look it up.

Ugrim please reroll the one you rolled as a critical threat damage.

At minimal damage Brakt is in negative health, so if Brakt does not have a way to stay fighting you can just post your end of match decoration or you can wait for Ugrim to reroll damage.

Brakt
Fighter 1,328, 459 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Fri 24 Nov 2017
at 05:02
  • msg #33

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

OOC: Hey, if Ugrim wants to spend a hero point to end this quicker, fine by me lol.


Brakt lost, is Lawful Neutral, has 1,328BP, and used 0 hero points.
Ugrim
Barbarian 1,249, 526 posts
Adv. Orc Barbar/Fighter
Shadow's Caress
Fri 24 Nov 2017
at 06:42
  • msg #34

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

Actually, there's a part i missed, and that's that broken weapons take a -2 to damage dealt as well.
So if we subtract 2 from all the damage i've dealt so far, with the exception of my bite attack but including the hero point damage, and i roll minimum damage on my second re-rolled crit, brakt will still be alive and well. In fact i think i need to roll a 7 or higher to actually kill him.

So, in the interest of fairness, here is the re-rolled damage for the second crit that should have been a crit but wasn't a crit because of the way state based effects work in this game? idk, seems silly that my keen bonus doesn't work but hey, them's the breaks.


00:38, Today: Ugrim rolled 32 using 1d10+26 with rolls of 6.  2nd re-rolled non-crit.

So, let's put all these numbers together.
29 27 + 32 + 35 33 + 11 + 5 + 36 34 = 142.

Brakt, you lucky dog, you're at 1 HP and it's now your turn. Better kill me this turn. You've got 231 HP to get through after DR/5- better pray for those x4 Scythe crits. (that's 207 HP and 24 negative HP btw. Ugrim doesn't stop until he hits negative 25)
This message was last edited by the player at 06:46, Fri 24 Nov 2017.
Brakt
Fighter 1,328, 460 posts
Ogre Fighter
SotVD
Fri 24 Nov 2017
at 07:40
  • msg #35

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

Brakt raises his scythe with one last defiant blow, but barely cuts into the Orcs tough skin.  As he is knocked out by his own blade, he at least had the satisfaction of not giving Ugrim the final blow.

Dice Rolls:
18:38, Today: Brakt rolled 47,2 using 7d6+29,1d6 with rolls of 3,2,1,1,5,5,1,2.  Power Attack Bane Vicious 1st attack, damage to self.
18:36, Today: Brakt rolled 31,19,18 using 1d20+24,1d20+16,1d20+11 with rolls of 7,3,7.  Full attack vs Ugrim.


OOC: No more escapes. It's over.  Thanks though!



Brakt lost, is Lawful Neutral, has 1,328BP, and used 0 hero points.
Ugrim
Barbarian 1,249, 527 posts
Adv. Orc Barbar/Fighter
Shadow's Caress
Fri 24 Nov 2017
at 08:17
  • msg #36

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

What a weird match.

Ugrim's got some reworking to do now that Master Craftsman doesn't work the way i thought it did.

Ugrim wins, is Chaotic Neutral, has 1,249 BP, and used 1 hero point.
GM Arkrim
GM, 6283 posts
Game Master
Fri 24 Nov 2017
at 21:39
  • msg #37

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

Grunyar, I've been developing a rewards calculator to make this easier. Feel free to use it. It works for most types of matches at the moment.

https://sites.google.com/site/...ena/site-suggestions
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 1,822, 684 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sat 25 Nov 2017
at 00:21
  • msg #38

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

Thank you, I will have a look at it, been out in the black Friday madness (wife drug me out shopping) will be home in a bit and will finish this thing up.
Grunyar Fangblood
Summoner 1,822, 685 posts
Skinwalker Summoner
Sat 25 Nov 2017
at 01:59
  • msg #39

Re: Duel #211: Brakt vs. Ugrim

WINNER(S)
Ugrim (1249) used 1 hero points

LOSER(S)
Brakt (1328) used 0 hero points

DETAILS
Duration: 1 round.
Players: 2 players.

(1*2*10) = 20 Total Rewards for Referee.

Max reward for referee: 319
Min reward for referee: 94

(X) = 300 (if winner), 200 (if draw or runner up), or 100 (if loser)

When dealing with a 1v1 match:

1328 * 300 / 1249 = 319 Total Rewards for Winner.

1249 * 100 / 1328 = 94  Total Rewards for Loser.

Rewards

Ugrim: 319 BP +1 HP (opposed alignment)

Brakt: 94 BP

Grunyar: 94 BP


I like the spreadsheet GM, the sheet rounds I do not think anyone will complain about getting an extra BP just maybe drop an exception to the rounding rule so if the ref doesn't use sheet it's scored the same.  Just my thoughts one BP isn't much but will add up.
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