revived characters don't have to be the same as they were before... I imagine it would be a pretty traumatic experience... perhaps the deceased spent some time in the after life...

So...you're saying we should whack Arven, let him stew in the afterlife for a bit, then bring him back and hope he's mellowed a bit?

Such a ploy could backfire... especially with Arven.

Well, we could always give the first half of the plan a try, anyhow....

yah fighting for Tolkeen your death should really just result in a big chunk of your cash being taken out of your pay to go to the guy that raised you lol
in a way that can be a problem

For me this power is brutally anti-dramatic...

imagine after Luke Skywalker screams NOOOO!!!! after Obi Wan dies, one of their team members is like "It's no big deal I have the resurrection power..."

or after Boromir gets gibbed in LOTR - and after his final speech, they bring his body back - and just get him resurrected...

I would prefer not to have this ability... anywhere.

Perhaps some elder mages know how - like Tyirrak suggested - a spell of legend or something like a massive ritual - including permanent effects to the caster - and person being brought back.

SO - Tyirrak, Ahnaka, Zor - please exchange this ability for something else.

Dalamar - you would likely know of this change to RIfts history and can re-edit yer post. (You too tyirrak).

Dalamar you can assume somebody in Tolkeen would know how to bring your brother back - but you would likley need to pay them. You are just lowly mercenaries after all...
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:34, Thu 03 May 2007.

I didn't take that ability, so no worries.

Just excise the resurrection option from the tattoo -- I'd still like to keep it for its massive heal function.

Ok, my post has been edited.  Only the dialogue though.

you could limit it in some ways
like a person can only be resurected once
then if they die again they are gone

or resurection is not a garountee
like flip a coin and if it fails he is dead and can't be raises but if the coin comes up it's cool he's back

you know something like that

I say give all those who have been resurrected a 100% chance of coming back with severe brain damage (-5% per point of Mental Endurance).  A failed roll results in reducing your experience level by half and freezing it there, plus your mental attributes are all reduced by 2D6 and you have a 50% chance of the right side of your body being paralyzed.

Ressurection should be possible just very hard to attain imo.

I don't think resurrection happens very often in the movies, but when it does, it is not always anti-dramatic, in my opinion.

In "Alien: Resurrection" they were able to bring Ripley back after hundreds of years via a cloning technique.  This basically is equivalent to a magic ritual in Rifts as it would have been pretty costly, and it took a long time to perform.

In "Star Trek: Insurrection" (I think that's the one) Data sacrifices himself at the end and gets blown up in a ship.  But not before he had the chance to download himself into another android.

Now, neither of the above cases resulted in a flawless 'resurrection' as Ripley came back with special powers and a lot of memory loss and Data came back with major memory loss.  But they still came back.

So, I think most everyone would agree, resurrection should be rare and not generally granted to low or mid level player characters.

Ripley was resurrected as the premise of the story, and data was resurrected as a conclusion. In Tolkeen - this would be the middle of the story - like Obi Wan or Boromir returning to life...

in comics people come back all the time...

Superman was killed - big issue - big drama - then he comes back... and it killed all that drama.

Psylocke was killed on the x-men and then came back

it is at the point where if a main character dies it is more like a vacation before they will be back... VERY anti dramatic.

ok - instead of making resurrection unattainable - it should be possessed by only high level people. And even then - sort of like the genie from aladdin - he doesnt bring people back from the dead he just doesnt like doing it.

or when low level people try it - it is somewhere in between necromancy and resurrection - so that nobody tries it...

I like the flip a quarter method
bring him in and it's like well I will see what I can do
oh tails damn sorry guys

Nah, go with the Evil GM method -- resurrection, but the spirit inhabiting the body isn't who it's supposed to be....

perhaps one of palladiums famous random decision tables:

1-20% : Resurrection works fine
21-40% : Body is resurrected but inhabited by an evil entity from another dimension
41-50% : person is resurrected but all skills are at ahalf and all attributes are minus 5
51-70% : resurrection fails; may not ever try again with this subject, even by another caster
71-90% : Person is now a zombie - same rules as the spell
90-100% : person is resurrected - but life span is reduced to 2D6 months.


or something like that...

So:

Official ruling is that resurrection powers are off-limits to PC's, but not totally wiped clean from the world?

I'm not totally sure what my official ruling is yet...

But lanotaurs sure as hell shouldnt have that ability...

Attention meta-gaming police... Rahu-Men have all psychic sensitive powers.


So lick it!

'Sensitive' and 'Arven' just SO do not go together.... @_@

It isn't a regular Lanotaur ability, it was one of the few random spells they can learn (they only get 1d4+1 or so of those... I have like 3...), and I chose that one... it was a long time ago and I didn't really think it would come up.

I'll choose a differant spell for him instead.

If anyone is wondering what to do right now - you basically have free movement in Tolkeen. Naturally this isn't time to go to the spa - but rather to prepare to set out again.

Weapons, armour, TW equipment, vehicles, whatever you want - let me know and we will work it out - it doesn't have to be in character.

In your platoon thread - it is pretty much one guy that deals with everything war-wise. You can see a crazy named Zed for any equipment.

Dearest Moloch,

You can eat my ass!

Sincerely,
Malefic


Just wanted to try out the cursive writing feature. :)

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The what now?  It's certainly not all that cursive on my system.

More Comic Sans MS, really.