icosahedron152
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Fri 22 Mar 2019
at 12:11
Any Aussies here?
G'day. Just a Pommie looking for some characterization. Are the terms 'Hobson's Choice' and 'the bees knees' used Down Under? If not, what would be used instead?

And do Aussies traditionally prefer tea or coffee?

Cheers. :)
Quiet Whisper
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Sat 23 Mar 2019
at 00:34
Any Aussies here?
Hobson's Choice is not used, and I can't say I've ever heard anyone say 'bees knees' that wasn't at least in their 50s.

Googling Aussie Slang gave me the following https://nomadsworld.com/aussie-slang/ which having a look has a good list. Nothing in there for a similar version of Hobson's Choice - which I had to google myself - nor can I think of a replacement myself, sorry, at least not without full context.

Generally coffee over tea.
icosahedron152
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Tue 26 Mar 2019
at 07:48
Any Aussies here?
Thanks, mate, that helped, and the slang link should be useful later. :)
EmeraldDragon
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Sat 30 Mar 2019
at 15:44
Any Aussies here?
I want to clarify Tea/Coffee.

The UK is the big Tea drinker. The US is a big drip coffee drinker (To the point where you don't often find kettle's in the US)

Australia is a more complex situation.

Most people in Australia own a kettle, and often keep BOTH tea and coffee in their house. The Tea is often bagged and black and the coffee is often Instant coffee. Typically a dark roast.

HOWEVER many people in Australia have developed a taste for high quality coffee (this is especially true if your character is from Melbourne) which has led to all kinds of different coffee setups in the home.

Still, if someone is visiting you, its not uncommon to hear, "Do you want a tea or coffee?"

Milo (An exceptionally common milk additive in Australia) or Hot chocolate is also common in most houses, although both are considered somewhat youth targeted.
DarkLightHitomi
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Sat 30 Mar 2019
at 20:53
Any Aussies here?
What is Milo?
tibiotarsus
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Sun 31 Mar 2019
at 07:30
Any Aussies here?
The equivalent of Nesquik in Europe: a powder you make a very basic milkshake with.

(not Australian, have Aussie friends, second the tea/coffee thing. Still mystified by Tim-Tams.)
Nerwen
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Mon 1 Apr 2019
at 10:54
Any Aussies here?
I'm not an Aussie, but I'm living in Sydney for a few months. There are a LOT of places that sell coffee here, like every ten feet or so, and it's all quite good. I'm slowly succumbing to caffeine addiction after twenty years of being off of it... There are places that sell tea too, but nowhere near as many.

The kettle was an unfamiliar appliance when I first arrived in the area (started in New Zealand which drinks even more coffee than Australia). It's an electric device where you can press a button and, a few minutes later, have boiling water with which to make your coffee/tea. Before I moved here I was only aware of the specially shaped pot you can heat up on a stove.

Milo is what they use to make hot chocolate from.
DarkLightHitomi
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Mon 1 Apr 2019
at 11:27
Any Aussies here?
That is what you mean by kettle? Many people I know here in the US use those. Less for drinks than for other stuff, like hot water for oatmeal or for boiling eggs in.

Also, big hot chocolate fan. I'll have to get this Milo stuff and see how it compares.
EmeraldDragon
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Wed 3 Apr 2019
at 18:10
Any Aussies here?
The Kettle isn't completely gone in the US, as when I toured it was something that could be found in some of my friend's houses.

But like you said, its not often used for drinks, and often is just a way to boil water.

And Electric kettle (based off the older ceramic design) still has a jug aesthetic and occupationally has different settings for different temperature water.



As for Milo, its not really like Nesquik at all (as we have both). Like Nesqick it can be added to hot or cold milk, but because Milo is is primarily based around Malt barley (with Cocoa powder flavor) it does not devolve well in cold Milk.

Instead, it will float on top, releasing some of its chocolate flavor. This is actually how some people prefer it, having a chocolate milk drink with crunchy flavoring on top.

It also doesn't taste exactly like chocolate, again because of the malted barley.

When the milk is heated however it will dissolve quite well. It tastes kinda like a hot chocolate in this form, but the malted barley does still effect the flavour slightly.

Milo (while still, and this is VERY important to emphasis, bad for you) is better for you then basic hot chocolate and Nesquik. Milo for a long time went out of its way to claim to be a drink for those who wanted slow release energy because of this.

While the claim has been debunked multiple times, and Milo no longer makes it, the campaign was successful which is why back in the 90s Nesquik and Milo were fairly common in Aus, and now its mostly Milo as far as the eye can see.
Starchaser
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Thu 4 Apr 2019
at 08:27
Any Aussies here?
Kettles are very much still in use in the U.K. Though a very great many of us use it to drink instant coffee rather than tea, nowadays.

(I personally like spiced ginger tea, but am a caffine addict in work).

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Nerwen
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Thu 4 Apr 2019
at 09:57
Any Aussies here?
When I was a kid (in the U.S.), we had Ovaltine, which we mixed into milk to make chocolate milk. I saw a jar of it in the grocery store here a few days ago. How's that compare to Milo?
EmeraldDragon
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Thu 4 Apr 2019
at 17:23
Re: Any Aussies here?
Nerwen:
When I was a kid (in the U.S.), we had Ovaltine, which we mixed into milk to make chocolate milk. I saw a jar of it in the grocery store here a few days ago. How's that compare to Milo?



Okay this is an answer from literally 5 minutes of google on the internet. I have never drank Ovaltine, so I can't give a full and proper answer.

With that out of the way

Ovaltine Malt and Milo LIKELY have similar flavors. Its hard to get an exact read here, because Ovaltine's reciepe varies from nation to nation.

However the following facts are true.

Ovaltine is more concentrated then Milo, and thus has a smaller serving size.

Ovaltine thus has more Malted Barley in it by percentage.

HOWEVER the main ingredient in Ovaltine is Milk Solids, where as Milo uses a filler (specifically Rice) which makes the Milk Solids less of a dominate ingredient in Milo.

So while their is less Malted Barley in Milo then Ovaltine, its the more dominant flavor.

The effect I suspect (and this part is PURE SPECULATION) is that Ovaltine probably disolves better in cold fluids (such as milk), lacks the delicious crunchy bits on top and has a slightly creamier flavor.