Kioma
 member, 38 posts
Wed 30 May 2018
at 06:18
Re: Stats/history
engine:
Yes, I greatly prefer using a standard array, both as player and as GM. But I have long gotten the sense that some people think this makes me spoiled as a player and lazy as a GM. Oh, well.

Really?  People actually tell you that?  Wow.

People will believe what they choose to believe, I suppose, but this sounds a little like gatekeeping to me.  If you enjoy the standard array, awesome, use it.  If you prefer some other model, awesome, use it.  It's a big wide hobby and there's plenty of room for everyone, sort of thing.
V_V
 member, 731 posts
Thu 31 May 2018
at 10:36
Re: Stats/history

This message was deleted by the user at 10:43, Thu 31 May.

V_V
 member, 732 posts
 You can call me V, just V
 Life; a journey made once
Thu 7 Jun 2018
at 22:46
Re: Stats/history
So, I had tragedy that was far less bad than it could of been, but nonetheless took up 100% of my attention for five days. I thought it would take longer, so I had requested a ban, to be forced to focus on this bad, horrible RL stuff with my best friend, Anne.

Anyway, THAT is not the vent. My vent, is that I currently have no games to post in that I PLAY. I have TONS to do in my GMed games, but that is much more hard work. It isn't the GM in the games I'm playing either, it's largely the players, lol. Which is fine, I like slow games...I just felt a tiny bit bummed that when I came back from my brief hiatus...not much had gone on.

Plus...plus no one posts when I'm online. No matter my schedule, I never seem to be online when people are posting...it's sort of funny...considering I change my schedule frequently. It's funny to think no matter when I'm asleep, or doing housework...it's always dead on RPoL. hehe *rolls eyes*
Eggy
 member, 796 posts
Thu 7 Jun 2018
at 23:32
Re: Stats/history
These players you're waiting on, do they know you've reinstated your account?
V_V
 member, 733 posts
 You can call me V, just V
 Life; a journey made once
Fri 8 Jun 2018
at 00:09
Re: Stats/history
Now, yes, and by all means I'm not blaming them for any of the following:
  • being busy themselves
  • waiting on me
  • waiting on others' whom in turn are actually waiting on them.
  • not having much to add
  • getting bored


It's a tiny gripe, and more because I'd like to type something somewhere and decided to come here, just to blither. ;p

I also JUST got back last night and informed some today. So I certainly am not resentful, in the least, just a little bummed. :) They are also slower games too. It's to be expected. I just had hope five days would do more. That's okay though. :)
DarkLightHitomi
 member, 1364 posts
Fri 8 Jun 2018
at 05:06
Re: Stats/history
I have two jobs.

At my minor job, I deliver pizza, and thus have a bank of cash that must be closed. When I got the job, it was with the requirement that I must be gone no later than 22:00 so I can get to my other job.

An assistant manager was there tonight and would not let me leave. He refused to close me out.

I told I had another job, that there was someone who was waiting and would go for 4 hours without a break waiting on me to get there. He still refused to close me out.

I then told him I was leaving regardless, that he could close me out or I would walk out without closing. He still refused.

So I walked out. The assistant manager not only told me how fired I was, but followed me to the car talking smack about how much of punk I was.

I swear punching him would have been worth the jail time (I'm a registered lethal weapon, so punching him would have classified as assault with a lethal weapon), but that would've been rather petty.

Still, I'm pretty sure he feels victorious, yet I can't help but think of how much of a child was.
ShadoPrism
 member, 1217 posts
 OCGD-Obsessive-Compulsive
 Gamer-Disorder
Fri 8 Jun 2018
at 05:15
Re: Stats/history
Report him for abuse of power to your manager or GM. That is all he was doing, showing you who was 'in charge' (ie being an Apple). As it is in your record that you need to leave at a set time, he really did not have the authority to keep you so long. (been there, done that, back in my collage days.)
He is really showing his superiors that he is Not manager matterial and it will hurt him in the long run.

This message was last edited by the user at 05:15, Fri 08 June.

DarkLightHitomi
 member, 1365 posts
Fri 8 Jun 2018
at 05:27
Re: Stats/history
Done, not that I expect much. Children is pretty much all they hire for managers, even the reasonable ones.
V_V
 member, 734 posts
 You can call me V, just V
 Life; a journey made once
Fri 8 Jun 2018
at 05:58
Re: Stats/history
In reply to ShadoPrism (msg # 1204):

I agree, but sadly, it's pizza shop (and, I'm guessing, delivery), and I have two long time friends that did that for ten plus years. The amount of injustice they received was criminal, but in fact there is so much PR SNAFU that it's RARELY worth the fight, especially AFTER being "fired".

I feel for you...I really do. I hope you can either rectify that job (including not being under him) or get another quickly. I don't know what situation you're in for second job; if you need it, or want more money to "play" with.

The first pizza guy I knew was my sister's before-during-and after marriage boyfriend. Even when he wasn't with my sister he was a decent friend, just because their relationship was so "complicated". Anyway, he did great in programming and computer consultation. He made good money from that alone, nice house, a mustang car, and posh furniture and electronics. He kept his job (as pizza guy) after he started making good money, because he worked late nights, and never said no to money, but when a manager gave him crap about delivering a pizza to a non-existant address, my friend decided it wasn't worth it, and he didn't NEED the money.

The other guy, whom I still see about annually, works at Target and various pizza places. He says he doesn't NEED the money, but yet he struggles when he doesn't get the hours. So he puts up with horrendous crap just to get it over with to THEN do his job. He spends more unpaid off days "fixing" stuff so he can make work eaiser. Breaks my heart.

So I feel for you. I worked at Wal-mart and baby-sat my friends' children. I had to have days off, as I worked part time. The manager "took the liberty" of giving me more hours and never gave me the clue (just the FULL-TIME section schedule on a another section of the wall). So when I didn't show, they had a "grass roots" bull-spit meeting and I told them "I'm sorry, a child would be without care if I hadn't left. I put in writing, as required by your company that you didn't tell me but I knew to do, that I needed this day off for childcare." I also knew my rights, this lady friend's rights and special needs rights for the disabled; so I sued them. Medicare did the fighting and Wal-mart and Medicare are still going over that settlement's finality. It wasn't about the money for me though, I worked to have a "purpose" in my disability. Wal-mart just didn't fit that criteria *chuckles*, but for most people, you work two jobs to get the benefit of what should be one with paid vacation. Most also don't have the protection like Medicare to go to legal batting for them. Paying sa lawyer is often a deathknell for any suit...though to be honest, this wouldn't qualify, sadly, outside of discrimination and contracts, a public business can fire you because you wore the wrong color shirt to work, or if you like a sports team they don't. Sucks though. Sucks people are like that. Too lost in their colon's cavernous depths to see what's blatantly obvious.

Best of luck though...really...If good thoughts did anything you've got them. All I can say is hang in there, and yeah, you did the right thing. Punching him would have been temporary and "dirty" relief, any glee would have faded and been replaced quickly with grief. THAT guy was the punk though. What a little pinprick of self-asteam. If you'd have hit him, it would have been the first hard thing to enter his life, and might possibly of knocked some teeth out, along with the over abundance of bovine excrement in his head. Well, the latter part would probably have helped him...actually. ;)

Sorry for such a long reply though. *whew* I simply have heartfelt resentful sympathy and empathy. Like I said, I have long time friends that were in the pizza industry and dealt with ALL KINDS of crap. It speaks to me, you know? I got nothing but love for people in that situation.
WhiteComic
 member, 422 posts
 In omnia Paratus
 Momento Mori
Fri 8 Jun 2018
at 06:36
Re: Stats/history
While I entirely feel for you in this situation due to him following you outside and getting into a heated altercation, however jobs are not obligated to follow your schedule. You're on their time. An overlap between two jobs isn't either jobs fault. While they should be more considerate just out of kindness, it is not their fault you have overlapping jobs and you're subjected to certain time frames. While I don't understand while he didn't cash you out, he also didn't have to cash you out unless it was your actual clock out time. But even then, if he wanted to keep you longer, he can and will.

I've worked at a pizza place before, so I know what it's like having to wait to be cashed out, but I learned fairly quickly to do it on my own, however I couldn't just cash out and walk out. I had to get permission first to leave, in case they needed me still. I went through many times not being able to be cashed out due to extra needed service or they simply just didn't want me to yet.

I feel for you in your situation, but in the end, it's your overall responsibility to not allow these overlaps. While it was discussed upon hire, it is not always guaranteed either. Walking out the way you did is a way to get fired, so you'll likely not be eligible for rehire or even have the slightest chance of getting your job back.

Good luck to you though. I've been in your position where I've needed two jobs and I managed it fairly well because one was during the day, the other in the evening, 6 hours apart from clocking out during the day and having to clock in in the middle of the night.

Not every place has to accommodate you; it's not something they are not obligated to do so just keep that in mind in the future to avoid future incidents.
CrazyIvan777
 member, 239 posts
Fri 8 Jun 2018
at 12:27
Re: Stats/history
Soooo.... The publisher that I've been working with is deciding to close up shop. I've just sent a message to them about the next book (still in progress) and now I have to wait on it. I know there are other avenues, but shopping around a novel (especially when it's not the first in a series, and it's far from a best seller) suuuuuuuuucks. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, and hoping for the best.
DarkLightHitomi
 member, 1366 posts
Fri 8 Jun 2018
at 21:54
Re: Stats/history
@ WhiteComic
Actually, in this case he did have to let me leave. He was just an assistant manager. When I got hired, it was agreed between the general manager and I, that I leave no later than that. It was part of the requirements put in place when I got hired. The assistant manager has to abide by the rules and decisions the gm establishes.

It seems that the gm agrees with me here, as I turned in my cash today and she said she'd be talking to him.

Not looking forward to seeing him again, but thankfully I don't have to very often.
Genghis the Hutt
 member, 2534 posts
 Just an average guy :)
Fri 8 Jun 2018
at 22:40
Re: Closing out
"I told I had another job, that there was someone who was waiting and would go for 4 hours without a break waiting on me to get there. He still refused to close me out."

If you're going to leave and not get closed out, you may get fired, which sucks.  If the other job is more important, make the choice and leave knowing that you may get fired.  However, then you don't have any recourse if your drawer comes up short.  So I'd take a cell phone and videotape yourself clearly counting the money out, putting everything back in the drawer, then walking out so that if there's any argument later you can point out that you counted yourself out. :)
DarkLightHitomi
 member, 1367 posts
Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 00:16
Re: Closing out
As a driver, I have no access to a drawer. Also, supposed to get paid mileage, which is calculated by the computer.
Loremaster
 member, 59 posts
 Trust me.
 I know what I'm doing.
Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 03:07
Re: Stats/history
WhiteComic:
While I entirely feel for you in this situation due to him following you outside and getting into a heated altercation, however jobs are not obligated to follow your schedule. You're on their time.

Employees aren't actually possessions, tho.

That's actually a lot of crimes you're discussing there. Like, most of them.


Also you're making very little sense.
"It's your responsibility to avoid these overlaps."
Uh... how, if you belong to the assistant manager and must come and go at his whim?
V_V
 member, 735 posts
 You can call me V, just V
 Life; a journey made once
Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 04:09
Re: Stats/history
In reply to CrazyIvan777 (msg # 1208):

That does suuuuck. :( Getting an outlet for a book that is part of series, even the first, is difficulty enough. Having to swap publishers mid series can be a deathknell... Best of luck!
OceanLake
 member, 1037 posts
Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 05:11
Re: Stats/history
English language atrocities

"The most unique roadside diner in every US state"

"...most unique"?
V_V
 member, 736 posts
 You can call me V, just V
 Life; a journey made once
Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 05:55
Re: Stats/history
In reply to OceanLake (msg # 1214):

Do you mean to say it wasn't descriptive, as in not "most authentic mexican" or "most recognizable decor".

Or are you making a prescriptive argument? As in, that "unique" prescriptively eschews any need for qualifying it as "most" any more or less than "least".

This message was last edited by the user at 06:15, Sat 09 June.

ShadoPrism
 member, 1218 posts
 OCGD-Obsessive-Compulsive
 Gamer-Disorder
Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 10:45
Re: Stats/history
In reply to V_V (msg # 1215):

Marketting Hogwash.
drewalt
 member, 90 posts
Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 18:23
Re: Stats/history
In reply to V_V (msg # 1215):

It's an especially egregious misuse of the word.  Nothing can be the "most" unique, it is either unique or it is not.  Uniqueness is not a spectrum, it's a binary.  Something unique is neither more nor less unique than anything else in existence else it is not unique to begin with.

See Strunk's Elements of Style.
OceanLake
 member, 1038 posts
Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 20:09
Re: Stats/history
most offbeat

most unusual

most attention-getting
horus
 member, 505 posts
 Wayfarer of the
 Western Wastes
Sun 10 Jun 2018
at 15:33
Is it My Imagination...
or is there a full-blown summer slump in progress around here?

Part of it is, I'm sure, my recent so-called life that does not seem to be going my way at all, but that's starting to look up a bit.

Nothing to it but to do it, I suppose.  Keep on keepin' on, and all that jazz.

In the words of Malcolm Reynolds, "I aim to misbehave."

I'm a start me a new game, I think.

Oh, wait...
PCO.Spvnky
 member, 365 posts
Sun 10 Jun 2018
at 17:52
Is it My Imagination...
I have a question, why isn't there a player option to remove yourself from a game? It's irritating to ask to be removed from a game and then still have it pop over and over in your sticky list.
bigbadron
 moderator, 15586 posts
 He's big, he's bad,
 but mostly he's Ron.
Sun 10 Jun 2018
at 18:01
Is it My Imagination...
In reply to PCO.Spvnky (msg # 1220):

Because we believe that the GM, and only the GM, should have control over entry to, and exit from, his game.  Just like we wouldn't let a player add himself to a game, we don't let him remove himself.

That said, if you ask the GM to remove you, and he doesn't do it within a week, then you contact the Moderators, and include a link to the in-game thread where you asked the GM to remove you.

From the FAQs:
As a player, I want to be able to remove myself from games.

As only GMs can add players to a game, only GMs can remove players from games.  If you'd like to leave a game, be sure to tell the GM and ask them to remove you from it.  If they do not respect your wishes within a reasonable time, contact the Moderators about the issue.
        /help/?t=faqs&page=frf

This message was last edited by the user at 18:07, Sun 10 June.

Eggy
 member, 797 posts
Sun 10 Jun 2018
at 18:09
Is it My Imagination...
In reply to horus (msg # 1219):

Pretty much. For me, this is a season of blockbuster movies, graduation parties, road trips and concerts.  I'm stuck at home this summer, so I'm taking time for game maintenance.