Done, not that I expect much. Children is pretty much all they hire for managers, even the reasonable ones.

In reply to ShadoPrism (msg # 1204):

I agree, but sadly, it's pizza shop (and, I'm guessing, delivery), and I have two long time friends that did that for ten plus years. The amount of injustice they received was criminal, but in fact there is so much PR SNAFU that it's RARELY worth the fight, especially AFTER being "fired".

I feel for you...I really do. I hope you can either rectify that job (including not being under him) or get another quickly. I don't know what situation you're in for second job; if you need it, or want more money to "play" with.

The first pizza guy I knew was my sister's before-during-and after marriage boyfriend. Even when he wasn't with my sister he was a decent friend, just because their relationship was so "complicated". Anyway, he did great in programming and computer consultation. He made good money from that alone, nice house, a mustang car, and posh furniture and electronics. He kept his job (as pizza guy) after he started making good money, because he worked late nights, and never said no to money, but when a manager gave him crap about delivering a pizza to a non-existant address, my friend decided it wasn't worth it, and he didn't NEED the money.

The other guy, whom I still see about annually, works at Target and various pizza places. He says he doesn't NEED the money, but yet he struggles when he doesn't get the hours. So he puts up with horrendous crap just to get it over with to THEN do his job. He spends more unpaid off days "fixing" stuff so he can make work eaiser. Breaks my heart.

So I feel for you. I worked at Wal-mart and baby-sat my friends' children. I had to have days off, as I worked part time. The manager "took the liberty" of giving me more hours and never gave me the clue (just the FULL-TIME section schedule on a another section of the wall). So when I didn't show, they had a "grass roots" bull-spit meeting and I told them "I'm sorry, a child would be without care if I hadn't left. I put in writing, as required by your company that you didn't tell me but I knew to do, that I needed this day off for childcare." I also knew my rights, this lady friend's rights and special needs rights for the disabled; so I sued them. Medicare did the fighting and Wal-mart and Medicare are still going over that settlement's finality. It wasn't about the money for me though, I worked to have a "purpose" in my disability. Wal-mart just didn't fit that criteria *chuckles*, but for most people, you work two jobs to get the benefit of what should be one with paid vacation. Most also don't have the protection like Medicare to go to legal batting for them. Paying sa lawyer is often a deathknell for any suit...though to be honest, this wouldn't qualify, sadly, outside of discrimination and contracts, a public business can fire you because you wore the wrong color shirt to work, or if you like a sports team they don't. Sucks though. Sucks people are like that. Too lost in their colon's cavernous depths to see what's blatantly obvious.

Best of luck though...really...If good thoughts did anything you've got them. All I can say is hang in there, and yeah, you did the right thing. Punching him would have been temporary and "dirty" relief, any glee would have faded and been replaced quickly with grief. THAT guy was the punk though. What a little pinprick of self-asteam. If you'd have hit him, it would have been the first hard thing to enter his life, and might possibly of knocked some teeth out, along with the over abundance of bovine excrement in his head. Well, the latter part would probably have helped him...actually. ;)

Sorry for such a long reply though. *whew* I simply have heartfelt resentful sympathy and empathy. Like I said, I have long time friends that were in the pizza industry and dealt with ALL KINDS of crap. It speaks to me, you know? I got nothing but love for people in that situation.

While I entirely feel for you in this situation due to him following you outside and getting into a heated altercation, however jobs are not obligated to follow your schedule. You're on their time. An overlap between two jobs isn't either jobs fault. While they should be more considerate just out of kindness, it is not their fault you have overlapping jobs and you're subjected to certain time frames. While I don't understand while he didn't cash you out, he also didn't have to cash you out unless it was your actual clock out time. But even then, if he wanted to keep you longer, he can and will.

I've worked at a pizza place before, so I know what it's like having to wait to be cashed out, but I learned fairly quickly to do it on my own, however I couldn't just cash out and walk out. I had to get permission first to leave, in case they needed me still. I went through many times not being able to be cashed out due to extra needed service or they simply just didn't want me to yet.

I feel for you in your situation, but in the end, it's your overall responsibility to not allow these overlaps. While it was discussed upon hire, it is not always guaranteed either. Walking out the way you did is a way to get fired, so you'll likely not be eligible for rehire or even have the slightest chance of getting your job back.

Good luck to you though. I've been in your position where I've needed two jobs and I managed it fairly well because one was during the day, the other in the evening, 6 hours apart from clocking out during the day and having to clock in in the middle of the night.

Not every place has to accommodate you; it's not something they are not obligated to do so just keep that in mind in the future to avoid future incidents.

Soooo.... The publisher that I've been working with is deciding to close up shop. I've just sent a message to them about the next book (still in progress) and now I have to wait on it. I know there are other avenues, but shopping around a novel (especially when it's not the first in a series, and it's far from a best seller) suuuuuuuuucks. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, and hoping for the best.

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Actually, in this case he did have to let me leave. He was just an assistant manager. When I got hired, it was agreed between the general manager and I, that I leave no later than that. It was part of the requirements put in place when I got hired. The assistant manager has to abide by the rules and decisions the gm establishes.

It seems that the gm agrees with me here, as I turned in my cash today and she said she'd be talking to him.

Not looking forward to seeing him again, but thankfully I don't have to very often.

"I told I had another job, that there was someone who was waiting and would go for 4 hours without a break waiting on me to get there. He still refused to close me out."

If you're going to leave and not get closed out, you may get fired, which sucks.  If the other job is more important, make the choice and leave knowing that you may get fired.  However, then you don't have any recourse if your drawer comes up short.  So I'd take a cell phone and videotape yourself clearly counting the money out, putting everything back in the drawer, then walking out so that if there's any argument later you can point out that you counted yourself out. :)

As a driver, I have no access to a drawer. Also, supposed to get paid mileage, which is calculated by the computer.

Employees aren't actually possessions, tho.

That's actually a lot of crimes you're discussing there. Like, most of them.


Also you're making very little sense.
"It's your responsibility to avoid these overlaps."
Uh... how, if you belong to the assistant manager and must come and go at his whim?

In reply to CrazyIvan777 (msg # 1208):

That does suuuuck. :( Getting an outlet for a book that is part of series, even the first, is difficulty enough. Having to swap publishers mid series can be a deathknell... Best of luck!

English language atrocities

"The most unique roadside diner in every US state"

"...most unique"?

In reply to OceanLake (msg # 1214):

Do you mean to say it wasn't descriptive, as in not "most authentic mexican" or "most recognizable decor".

Or are you making a prescriptive argument? As in, that "unique" prescriptively eschews any need for qualifying it as "most" any more or less than "least".
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In reply to V_V (msg # 1215):

Marketting Hogwash.

In reply to V_V (msg # 1215):

It's an especially egregious misuse of the word.  Nothing can be the "most" unique, it is either unique or it is not.  Uniqueness is not a spectrum, it's a binary.  Something unique is neither more nor less unique than anything else in existence else it is not unique to begin with.

See Strunk's Elements of Style.

most offbeat

most unusual

most attention-getting

or is there a full-blown summer slump in progress around here?

Part of it is, I'm sure, my recent so-called life that does not seem to be going my way at all, but that's starting to look up a bit.

Nothing to it but to do it, I suppose.  Keep on keepin' on, and all that jazz.

In the words of Malcolm Reynolds, "I aim to misbehave."

I'm a start me a new game, I think.

Oh, wait...

I have a question, why isn't there a player option to remove yourself from a game? It's irritating to ask to be removed from a game and then still have it pop over and over in your sticky list.

In reply to PCO.Spvnky (msg # 1220):

Because we believe that the GM, and only the GM, should have control over entry to, and exit from, his game.  Just like we wouldn't let a player add himself to a game, we don't let him remove himself.

That said, if you ask the GM to remove you, and he doesn't do it within a week, then you contact the Moderators, and include a link to the in-game thread where you asked the GM to remove you.

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In reply to horus (msg # 1219):

Pretty much. For me, this is a season of blockbuster movies, graduation parties, road trips and concerts.  I'm stuck at home this summer, so I'm taking time for game maintenance.

I had a really cool Conway's Game of Life background for my Galaxy phone. I say had, because it just disappeared. I can't find the files anywhere and it doesn't seem to be available in the Play Store. Problems don't get much more first world than this, but I'm bummed.

Well, maybe this is an incentive to program my own.

Go for it: https://dzone.com/articles/rec...e-of-life-on-android

The problem will be interpreting zoom/pan from "turn cell on/off".  Good luck! :)

I write a post and look it over. Later, I go back to the thread to read others' posts...and I discover my post has at least one typo.

P.S. To make matters worse, I believe the above sentences have zero typos.

One of my PC rolled 18 d20 so far in my game. He rolled 6 ones, and 2 twos. It's getting kinda... absurd.

In reply to gorchek (msg # 1226):

I had one truely epic roll once - rolled 20D20's at the same time. They all came up 20. Was for multiple actions in a tourneyment - the GM in the end disqualified me though cause I was playing a mage (who would have won the Entire tourney with that awsome roll - using his dice no less).
That was also the last time I and the rest of the group, let him GM a game (he tended to get pissed when we won at anything and then pulled stuff like removing my win.)
Still the odds of that single giant roll are beyond my ability to estimate and I have Never done anything like it sense (to that scale at least, on smaller scale with lesser dice sure, but not D20s.) Thinking back, it's to bad I did not go buy a lottery ticket that day, probably would have won with that level of luck.

The odds are something like 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (yes that's a 1 followed by 26 zeroes, about a million times the number of stars in the observable universe. Or a number so large that if you tried to count it you wouldn't reach it before the universe were be a billion times older than it is now.)

That is such an improbable event that it's on the scale of winning the grand prize in the lottery every week for three weeks in a row.

With a roll like that, you should have not only won the tournament, you should have won the hand of the king's only daughter, too.

No wonder you kicked the GM out!