This is where we can all freely chat about anything.

  Happy several days after Xmas

Back atchya! How'd it go for you?

Well I've had a pretty crummy week so far, dealing with a medical appointment yesterday morning whch required a 24 hour prep period, and then today my mother's 17 year old dog had to be put down, due to numerous complications due to the dog's age. The vet said that if she had a dog in the same situation she'd have made the same decision, and for the same reasons.

Sorry to hear your week was crummy. Hopefully, things'll look up for ya in the new year. I'm thinking about starting RP here even though everyone else is dragging their feet. Oooorr.... we can have a quick vote between the three of us wether we should have this RP open to the public. I'm going to be adding a new rule concerning weapons, and once that's in there, I believe we'll be set as far as allowing public to enter our RP. So... cast your votes.

I say we go public because we need players and so far, all we have are Joe, Sam, Kelevor, Raikoo and myself. Kelevor and Raikoo may or may not be very active, so I don't know what to think, but either way, I still think we'll need 5 or so more people.

As a compromise and hopeful solution so that it doesn't have to be public, I'm thinking about inviting a few trusted friends from Deviant Art and inviting my brother as well. My ideal RP consists of 5 RPers, but admittedly that's on a MUCK. Here, the number might be higher due to the time you wait between poses.

But if my invites don't work for whatever reason ("No thank you, I can't RP" or "Sure thing!" and then never show up to RP), we'll need to go public. Thoughts?

New rule AND new thread posted. Check them out and gimme feedback please. Thanks!

Feedback, the no guns for goodguys was a rule which was abandoned on the muck as it became obvious that it was easy to get guns... steal a rifle from an armory or a SWATBot or make a crossbow are two examples. The hard parts can be getting more ammo and performing maintenance on the weapon, depending on the weapon as energy weapons are a bit more difficult to maintain than projectile weapons and most good guys want weapons that are durible and easy to maintain, the bad guys are typically the only ones with the luxury of dealing with higher maintenance weapons.

Badguys have easier access to maintaining guns, especially energy weapons, that is the only difference few as good guys would have the knowledge and equipment necessary to do so. (Samuel would be an example of a good guy who'd have the knowledge and capacity with the right tools to repair an energy weapon.) A good example of what could be done is in No Escape where the good guys tend to use crossbows as they are easy to deal with, but the main engineer was able to maintain that rocket rifle that the main character stole from the bad guys since before ending up on the island he had the knowledge in how to do that, the only other guy on the island able to maintain that weapon was the main character himself as he had the training to do field maintenance on it.

  I'm inclined to agree with the 'They own and make the guns. But we take the guns from the people that have em, because it helps prevent horrid death' point.  Haven't seen the movie being referenced for the point, but know whats meant.  Of course limiting initial owning of such equipment could work.  And I doubt a repeat performance of me being worried I'm over doing things with the bionic pointy only to see people with cybernetic plasma cannons and genetic superiority everywhere I look will happen.

  Regarding the poison=your naughty bit, don't really see the need for specific mention that using such on those not out to take over the world causes a poor reaction.  But then again, past experience has shown that you can get away with countless death threats (myself and a certain winged one come to mind) attempt to go through with said threats (just the winged one in mind) without any repercussions.  So a guy with a tranq dart would so be unfairly treated by comparison.  And this would also totaly mean Angel would need to come up with a new 'keep the crazy ones from being crazy on me' plan if you plunked her into the game.  Just because you also add antidote to the snacks doesn't mean the poisoned water supply isnt a bad thing.  Or was that the other way around?

  Though while grappling hooks, mechanical stuff, and other items already in the just fine category would be what I tend towards, does this mean I have to hack off my cybernetic limb to fall under the initially okayed stuff? Or just drop the electric shock bit, in order to go with the 'no tech melee weapons' thing?

  As for the other people heading on, I'm starting to lean towards a 'whatever gets this thing going already' mindset.

The weapons section has been edited. The first paragraph now reads:

Due to the fact that for those who are starting out with a goodguy I do not permit guns, but permit other weapons, I need to specify what kinds of weapons are allowed lest someone go and say, "You said no guns, but you didn't say no grenades!"

Under the "Goodguy-Permissable Weapons" section, I added:

Guns:
Not available at the start, but join us in roleplay and maybe you will get a hold of one.

And towards the end of the weapons post, I added this paragraph:

Also note these weapons are for starters. As roleplay continues, you may be able to upgrade. And in some cases, if you are good enough, you might even be able to aquire a gun as a goodguy! Though this usually means looting it from a badguy and that keeping the thing loaded and such will be a pain. So while making your goodguy character proficient in the use of guns would be beneficial when you finally GET one, I would still highly reccommend you apply for another weapon skill if any.

So yes... I agree with ya both. I didn't forget about the obtaining guns bit, but I just wasn't sure how wise it'd be to even mention that loophole. But I guess I should be able to prevent anxious people from stealing guns left and right on the first few poses.

As for the electric grapling hook... I can't answer yes or no yet. Since this forum is still currently closed to the public, let's talk about it. Do either of you see a problem with allowing electic-shock style weapons? Let's examine the benefits and downsides: Benefit is that, of course, taking down a killer robot is much easier and shutting up someone who's being a total pain is also a touch easier. But say there was a PvP situation like.. If I have Blipvert vs Joe. Joe would probabley be smart enough to know "Robot that doesn't look like SWATbot, but is clearly not a robian either = more challenging. Solution: Sneak behind and attempt electric grappling goodness." Blipvert gets grappled from behind and frazapped.

What should be the limitations to that sort of weapon? On one hand, I don't want to put limits on fun, but on the other hand, I don't want everyone saying they have some advanced weaponry. Solutions? Suggestions?

  Understandable about how whether or not electric shock counts under too fancy or not is hard to figure.  Went with shocky due to its effectiveness, fact it would be melee only (well, as far as firing grapple hooks could be considered melee when used like that)  and the fact it wouldn't require 'ammo'.  Well, unless all those roboticized bits so common really did need an external power source and Bunny uncle chuck are just going to fall over soon. The interesting idea of making a lance with a car battery taped to it once came to mind, but thats just silly.  As for the PvP example, understand the basic reasoning, but if I had no electricity, I'd make like Wile  E Coyote and drop an anvil on him...okay, wrong cartoon.  But the point is Joe would attempt to make use of whatever was on hand that wouldn't just be a blatant case of 'your puny sticks and banging rocks together tech level is no match for me' stuff.  Flip side of the argument being Joe gets owned because he's up against the terminator without a bazooka and just a sharp stick?  While know you're good about not blatantly dooming us and such, still need to point it out.

  Though I'm still not sure of whether or not I should have it.  Because as usual I'm stuck between wanting to pull off surviving and manage against anything thrown at me with the basics, (The batman methods as opposed to the rest of the worlds superman methods kind of outlook?)VS not wanting to be doomed because I have just the basics, as opposed to whatever excess is whats actually needed to live against the cooler and more well equipped ones out to kill me.

  Yoinked from my profile details.

The convenient electrical shock function while able to deal with more problematic killer robots by voiding the warranty of their insides after stabbery isn't something he can constantly use.  He makes up for this with his preferences towards more old fashioned violence, less old fashioned violence, or really any  kind of violence that doesn't make use of his left arm beyond using it like a normal arm, and using the shock methods in short bursts.

  Limitations while there, are sort of vague as its not mentioned how often is too often.  And it relies mostly on personal preference to use more normal methods than it unless its needed to tone down how often its used than technical limitations, as even a small battery life would = a whole lot of short bursts.  But mainly it was vagued up to prevent any instances of 'oh no, I ran out of juice in a bigger life and death situation than usual'.  While I know you wouldn't outright doom us, in turn you know how I tend to use this sort of thing on an as needed basis. well, usually.

   I suppose the easy out would be to go with the 'improve it later' thing.  Sidestepping the fact its been able to make with the shocky ouch since he was a kid with that part being busted at this moment...Or why Joe hasn't fixed it by now...or why Sam doesn't fix it in three minutes after it becomes apparent Joe has a cybernetic limb under that shirt sometime...Who would have thought trying to temporarily disadvantage yourself (compared to the usual robot army wanting you dead disadvantage) would be so hard?  And while I survived without the electro shock in the other game, I had a cranky killer cyborg super soldier backing me up.  Again I wonder why I keep being so afraid if I'm going overboard everywhere I go.  Im practicaly an amish pacifist by comparison acording to my track record.

Don't worry, Joe. It's not so much that I don't want YOU to have it (Since I already know and trust you and realise you are responsible), it's that someone might see you pull that and go "HEY! NO FAIR! I WANT ONE OR ELSE I'M GUNNA MAKE YOU ALL SUFFER!!!!!"

I like the idea of recieving it later in the game. I think the perfect excuse for that is no matter how cool a cat or whatever that Joe tries to pass himself off as, fact is he's ashamed of his robotic arm and so doesn't use it. But some RP time passes and he's forced to discover his horrific power?

Or whatever ya want. In the end, if you say the word, I'll give you the powa! And if anyone whines, I'll simpley tell them you had a convincing app since to me, my past 4 or so years of knowing you counts towards application (Remember how I used to put "RP Background" as a requirement in the RL info?).

Oh and just a reminder everyone, post your characters on the character introduction thread. Since this place is still closed to the public, it's not a big deal to post something unfinished. You can always edit it later.

 I kind of figure it was the prevention of an army of bionic commando style guys that was the case.  And just put the info up on the cast page, will yoink out the shocky bits later as Im lazy right now.  Though I'd figure horrific power to be more along the lines of a Railgun for a middle finger or something?  Nevermind mobians only have four fingers, thats what makes it horrific.  Forgot that thread was there after I put in the char details for the cast page and clicking of peoples names stuff.

That's fine. Like I said, you can always go back and edit. Take my brother for instance. Look at HIS post on the character introduction thread so far.

*takes a peek in* Heyo everybody.  Hopefully I can keep pokeing around here consistantly enough to actually aid in good RP. n.n

Hopefully.

Hmm will there also be listings for how neutral guys are since there are some people that might be viewed as too 'dark/cruel/whatever' to be good guys but not evil enough to be bad guys... and those people might have a bit more leeway with equipment or something and could end up joining one side or another depending on how RP involving them went with a 'faction change' then having the appropriate influences, a neutral guy who becoems a good guy won't have many of hte resources available if he became a bad guy, but would have the opportunity to learn skills that might not be available to the bad guys. (For example most robots/bad guys rely on technology to do much of what they need so without the technology they can't find their way around, good guys aren't limited like that.)

/wave
me = tim's bro.  ^.^

bored?  spoof of rpg games:
http://community.livejournal.c..._gamers/2869242.html?

Hi Raikoo! Hi bro! And yes, Sam. Actually, I remember writing rules about neutral types long ago. Oddly, not because of this gun situation, but because of the fact I saw someone playing a neutral-esque character once and thought "Hmm... how did the Sonic SatAM universe treat such people?" and remembered that while they tolerated neutral types, they didn't like them either. So lemme dig up that old rule... OK. Digged up. I've added to the rules section. Check out rules 6 and 7. Now as far as guns, I will have to write up something new in the weapons section.

Well I not only posted all that neutral stuff, but am pretty much ready to RP. As you can see my bro (Mittens) is with us now. If you guys are ready, I'll begin. If you still think some preperation or changes are needed first, lemme know.

  I guess I'm good to go, neutral issues on Joe's end being more of how 'good' people will react to Joe's occasional face stabbery habits as opposed to being of a neutral mindset in general.  But to quote Arnold, "They were all bad!"

  Though for changes right offhand I can think of, a thread to make the IC posting in would be one.  And maybe a vague estimate of whether Joe has been a longtime annoyance to the Channelwood FF or people are only just starting to realize the new guy may be mildly crazy.

  On a side note, the amusing link given has balanced out the smiley overload my brain was suffering.

How long you've been with the FF's is up to you, Joe. S'your character. Since he's another Matt clone, I could probabley RP his having been there for years no problem. But I dunno how well others might. So it's up to you.

Well till I get back home on sunday evening I won't have the detailed copy of Samuel's background information to simply copy/paste since I'm far to lazy to want to type that all out by hand when I have it on my desktop.

 Who am I to comment on lazyness?  And I figure I'll go the recent arrival path for here I guess.

Sounds like RP can be a go pretty soon then. Just lemme know if you really don't want me to start, anybody. Joe's cool, but I'm still unsure about Sam, who I'm going to send PMs to now.

Well the humongous Character post is made... part of the reason it's so long is to explain things properly. Since none of the other characters I'll have will have backgrounds nearly as complicated as Samuel's their character posts will be far shorter in comparison.

You can see why I have been to lazy to try and type that up by hand given that it had already been typed up once.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:10, Tue 09 Jan 2007.

*goes and reads* ....phew! By the time I got to the extra notes, my ADD kicked in and I stopped reading since I was having to read each sentence 4-6 times at that point. So I'll finish reading it later. And that's WITH skipping a paragraph or two up to that point. But I got the gyst of it. Cool app. I hope you won't mind if I go in there to edit minor things like spelling or return marks. Or you can. It's not an emergency, though, so before I even do that, I think I'll go ahead and start RP. :9 Yummy.

The gauntlet has been thrown. RP has begun! Feel free to post, my friends!

Did you already have an idea for a TP or are we just improvising right now?

Currently, the only plan is to get the two freedom fighter groups to communicate. Why, did you have any ideas?

Heh, tell me about it.

I wonder who is crazier.. Joe or Mittens... I mean bush + stilts + SWATBot head is the worst SWATBot disguise I've ever heard of. Although I will admit it is the most comical one I've heard of as well.

Glad you like!  ^.^

 Of course now that everybody over there is hideing around plantlife anyways, she would have been better off for bringing her own.

Well at least for the moment they are out of sight...although I think Blipvert is telling a scarecrow to surrender as that is the only thing other than 3 destroyed SWATBots that he probably sees.

SOmehow I think that skunk is going to need a name... since with how much I'm messing with him, he's likely to end up as a recurring NPC...

So far I've been called an ox, and blaster-brain... let's see what else I get called next.

"I was called furr-for brains!" complains Mittens.  ;.;  (Out of curiosity, Mittens opens her head like a lid and finds a hairball.)  "O..K..  Never mind."  >.<
This message was last edited by the player at 19:02, Thu 18 Jan 2007.

Samuel laughs at Mittens and says, "At least it'll stay warm in the winter."

I'm just waiting till someone starts singing the song 'Mr. Spaceman'... and asking for a ride in the shuttle Samuel has.

My favorite version of the song is the one from Kermit Unpigged...performed by Performed by jimmy buffett, the great gonzo, and rizzo the rat. The lyrics to it can be found here: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/j/j...aceman_10150079.html
This message was last edited by the player at 19:51, Thu 18 Jan 2007.

lol! Well Mittens HAS already been singing about you, Samuel. Singing "I'm a spaceman, I can do what I waaaant!" as a parody of "I'm the Devil I can do what I waaaant" from the song "Beezelboss" from the movie "Tenacious D - The Pick of Destiny". ;)

I can't do everything... for example ask me to hack a computer and you'd see me use my sword on it... I know how to run a software routine to let my equipment do soemthing, but first I need the software which I can't design.

Goku can't hack computers either, lol. :p

Samuel doesn't do fancy smachy martial arts either, he doesn't fly, he doesn't shoot fireballs from his eyes, and he definately does not fart lightning bolts.

I do believe DBZ fighters can do all that and a bag of chips.

Just teasing ya, dude. Though admittedly, the anti-grav boots got me curious. What are those needed for anyway? Places with high gravity would be mined by ships rather than people since it'd be likely a gas planet like Jupiter anyway.

The anti-grav/magnetic boots have several uses. First is to slow falls in lower gravity environments. If the gravity is low enough they act as jet boots so a person could sort of FLY in zero gravity thus they help in maneuvering. Furthermore they are handly to enable some gravity control, yes HIGH gravity 3g+  would be handled by robots as humans can't handle more than 3g or so for long periods of time without special equipment. But on planets where the gravity just above average/earth norm (say 1.1-2.0) but not high enough to be 'high gravity' the boots come in handy so a person can move around without tiring out faster due to the higher gravity. Additionally they allow a person to carry more weight in normal gravity. After all there can be non-gas planets larger than earth with higher gravity but your right ones with dangerously high gravity would tend to be gas giants. Also the magnetic features are for stability in zero/low gravity and to help secure someone so they don't end up floating away which could be disasterous in outer space. Thus they serve a purpose in zero, low, normal, and high gravities, although their useage shifts depending on the gravity.

Edit: Overall it's a good question since not everyone would realize their purpose, and I didn't go into much detail on why they are standard gear since I didn't think someone would ask what they are used for OOCly before someone asked ICly. (in which case I'd explain what I have just said.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:08, Fri 19 Jan 2007.

  If Joe was part of the 'my life is lamer' competion over with the other group, he'd take a dive and congratulate them for winning such an amazing prize.

Well you *knew* I had to throw in a "my life is lamer" competition at some point and get it out of the way.

In reference to the Emerald post:

I spent some time researching this and it seems foxes have better hearing range than possibley even your heat sensors, Samuel. I doubt you'd need a personell heat sensor that can detect heat from 160 feet away and most of the heat sensors I discovered on the net have 15 feet range. Given you have advanced equipment, I can understand the ability would be there, but the need, I highly doubt since your ship would have the higher-end heat sensors. So I'm guessing your range might be 30-40 feet at best. Correct me if I'm wrong.

It depends on the type of heat/thermal sensor, but in most cases a line of sight is required and with heat disipation over distance. However sound does not have such a limit so it makes sense that an animal with sensitive hearing would have a greater range than heat sensors in a forest as the trees mess with the range of a heat sensor.

The temparature sensors that I beleive you found are of very limited range, but are omni directional, there are also FLIR sensors (Forward Looking InfraRed) which can detect human body heat from a few miles away.

Samuel's sensors are of somewhat limited range, for ease of approximation, I'd say they have the same range as the heat sensors used by SWATBots when they are told to use their heat sensors as the computational power it requires to interperate the data is more than a SWATBot can afford to expend on using those sensors all the time. (think of it as a distraction when most of the time they aren't needed. However SWATBots are stupid and have limited computational abilities compared to a person. Example It can take a supercomputer a minute to recognize a image which a person can recognize in the blink of an eye...)

I do agree that Emerald's hearing would probably detect the coversation before Samuel's sensors would detect the other group. Then again Samuel has his sensors calibrated to detect robots... not other mobians (or any other organic creature)... so that also significantly affects the range at which his sensors would warn him about a group of mobians.

Weee! The RP thread has reached 100 replies!

Fun!  =^.^=
This message was lightly edited by the player at 23:52, Mon 22 Jan 2007.

Thanks to recent events with Emerald using her fox senses, I was thinking of going down the list of races and giving a brief "natural abilities" list for each race to show what is allowed by default. You guys think I should go to the trouble?

If you got the time to spare... I don't see why not, although it shouldn't become an issue that detracts from the RP.

Only if you've finished the first ten issues of Daisy.  :p

Pfff.

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*hick*

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HAH!

....

  Well, I went with Coyote for variety and deliberately going against standard racial bonus type stuff. Otherwise I'd have been forced to go with a random feline species to be allowed to so much as back flip, never mind main characters get to ignore that sort of thing and bust the sound barrier, etc.  Though if they did come up, at least I'd have a legitimate reason to survive falling off of cliffs and anvils falling on me.

LOL!!!

Um why was there no scuba gear for Mittens? Or was that a typo? Since Shelly is acting like mittens is there, but Mittens didn't get scuba gear or did she... I'm now confused.

Looks like I got a bit too excited and rushed things. Mittens would definately would have gotten scuba gear. But I'll play along with it since I was the one who rushed things.

And Joe's point is my point also. I just wunna make sure people have some extra things to fall back on.
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:25, Mon 29 Jan 2007.

There. Edited the older Shelly post so that Shelly didn't see Mittens instead. Plus added a Crucible pose in that edited post. Then posted Crucible again after Joe. Hope that fixes things.

ICly Samuel is going to be busy for a while, so no need to slow down the part of the RP with Emerald, Mittens, Michael, and Shelly by waiting for Samuel since he's off on his own. Samuel will rejoin the restt of the Rp at an appropriate time.

K, thanks. :)

For giggles:  http://sexy.namedecoder.com/in...rose&otherflag=f

Makes a sexy acronym of your name.  The grammar is surprisingly well constructed.  :P

Why do I feel that if my name was Marvin, Mittens would call me Marvin the Martian.

XD

some classic puns to kill time with:

   1.  Two antennas met on a roof, fell in love and got married.  The
ceremony wasn't much, but the reception was excellent.

   2.  A jumper cable walks into a bar.  The bartender says, "I'll serve
you, but don't start anything."

   3.  Two peanuts walk into a bar, and one was a salted.

   4.  A dyslexic man walks into a bra.

   5.  A man walks into a bar with a slab of asphalt under his arm and
says, "A beer please, and one for the road."

   6.  Two cannibals are eating a clown.  One says to the other, "Does
this taste funny to you?"

   7.  "Doc, I can't stop singing 'The Green, Green Grass of Home.'"
"That sounds like Tom Jones Syndrome." "Is it common?" Well, "It's Not
Unusual."

   8.  Two cows are standing next to each other in a field.  Daisy says
to Dolly, "I was artificially inseminated this morning." "I don't believe
you," says Dolly.  "It's true, no bull!" exclaims Daisy.

   9.  An invisible man marries an invisible woman.  The kids were
nothing to look at either.

   10.  Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.

   11.  I went to buy some camouflage trousers the other day but I
couldn't find any.

   12.  A man woke up in a hospital after a serious accident.  He
shouted, "Doctor, doctor, I can't feel my legs!" The doctor replied, "I know
you can't - I've cut off your arms!"

   13.  I went to a seafood disco last week...  and pulled a mussel.

   14.  What do you call a fish with no eyes?  A fsh.

   15.  Two fish swim into a concrete wall.  The one turns to the other
and says "Dam!"

   16.  Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly, so they lit a fire in
the craft.  Unsurprisingly, it sank, proving once again that you can't have
your kayak and heat it too.

   17.  A group of chess enthusiasts checked into a hotel and were
standing in the lobby discussing their recent tournament victories.  After
about an hour, the manager came out of the office and asked them to
disperse.  "But why," they asked, as they moved off.  "Because", he said,
"I can't stand chess-nuts boasting in an open foyer."

   18.  A woman has twins and gives them up for adoption.  One of them
goes to a family in Egypt and is named "Ahmal." The other goes to a family
in Spain; they name him "Juan." Years later, Juan sends a picture of himself
to his birth mother.  Upon receiving the picture, she tells her husband that
she wishes she also had a picture of Ahmal.  Her husband responds, "They're
twins!  If you've seen Juan, you've seen Ahmal."

   19.  Mahatma Gandhi, as you know, walked barefoot most of the time,
which produced an impressive set of calluses on his feet.  He also ate very
little, which made him rather frail and with his odd diet, he suffered from
bad breath.  This made him ...(Oh, man, this is so bad, it's good)...  .  A
super calloused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis.

   20.  And finally, there was the person who sent twenty different puns
to his friends, with the hope that at least ten of the puns would make them
laugh.  No pun in ten did.

Technical question RE: RP...  Would Mittens, Crucible, and Pierson hear what's being said over the intercom?  If so, she'd jump at the chance to join a raid.  If not she'll likely continue evangelizing the 2.

Good question. And the answer is yes. You would have heard them. Shelly and Samuel were not being private, per say. And even if they were, Shelly would want all of Aquarius to know without a doubt that she's in control of the situation, as per her training in royal school when she was a child.

So am I to assume that there is an open moonpool, at least when Aquarius isn't on lockdown, near the hangar bay that is not far from where everyone else is that Emerald used to get into the water and that is where the scuba gear was.

You are correct.

I started work on the racial advantages and disadvantages. But I've run out of time for today. If anyone feels like adding to it, or has suggestions, please reply to this OOC post and tell me. In the meantime, I'm having fun with it and hope that you all won't mind if I wind up adding weaknesses to some of your characters (Like the fact that cats can be thoroughly won over by catnip or yarn, as a silly example).

A few questions about your advantages/disadvantages.

Actually bats don't have poor eyesight, I'd say they are just semi-near sighted as they use echolocation to locate prey at a distance, and then when it gets close they use their eyes to finish hunting the prey. The term blind as a bat is actually very missleading as bats aren't blind, they just don't need long distance visual acutity. I'd say they just have poor long-distance vision as that is more accurate.

Also not sure why you'd call black bears and gorillas 'shy' since they both are more of a leave me alone and I leave you alone type personality, with the exception of other gorillas in the family unit, or when these two species are in their mating seasons. While they natrually try to avoid contact with humans, that shyness doesn't necessarily apply towards most other species they live around. After all black bears are carnivores and those species could end up as lunch. And gorillas in the wild live in small 'family units' mostly due to limitations of the amount of food in their territory. The being shy around humans for both species is an instinct that is easily overcome if they realize there is no reason to be shy. Then again most animals shy away from humans unless its domesticated or has realized something along the lines of humans leave food in their trash which can be eaten. Does this mean every non-domesticated race with few exceptions should be shy? To me the concept of a shy carnivore or a shy social animal seems silly so why did you pick shy for those two? Just because they are smart enough to 'instinctively default' to avoiding humans since history has shown that humans tend to HUNT them. I duno about you but if there was a species that tended to hunt humans... I'd be shy around it too, not to mention I'd just flat out avoid it...does that mean I'm shy? I'm not saying they seek out trouble or interaction, that after all is an individual trait, but there are few large animals that are shy, with their size they don't need to be, now they can be gentle, but that is different from being shy. I would agree gorillas tend to be gentle untill threatened, although they will try to intimidate someone to get them to leave by making noise it's more of a warning of 'go away' than a declaration of 'I want to hurt you'.

And for cats, I wouldn't word the weakness as you see yearn you stop what your doing and play with it... I'd just word it as 'playful' since most cats, when in an environment they are comfortable with will play. Dogs can be the same way, but dogs are very loyal due to their pack mentality.

Also comments on birds having hollow/light bones is very accurate.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:41, Mon 12 Feb 2007.

My research is only based on what I find on the net and some animal site describes black bears as "shy" specifically. Humans can be shy and still eat meat or hunt animals. But in either case, all of this is not solid or set in stone yet, so there is no reason to go on a rant about how wrong putting shy down is. I'll remove shy, however, since you made good points about being "shy" around preditors.

And about bats, yeah. They are relatively blind. Compared to humans. But have relatively good eyesight compared to most animals. But I was unsure wether to go with one or the other. So nearsighted sounds good. Thanks for that suggestion!

Don't forget, I'd still appreciate some ideas for the other animals that I haven't done yet. And for Dragons, I left out the light bones thing because they're so big it really doesn't matter anymore, unless one got in a fight with a terrapod.

  I would suggest for the racial thing that you simply post a link to a wiki that describes the animal's traits, (example: cats - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat), rather than spend a lot of time restating what's already easily found out.  Only need for clarification is with the "common misconceptions" like blind bats and cats being loners.  "Cats are actually highly social." says the Wiki.

  Another important point is that we shouldn't allow anyone to boast the full advantages of a wild animal AND the advantages of being humanoid.  "Well my character is a tiger so it has and excellent sense of smell, taste, and hearing, can run at speeds over 30MPH, excellent reflexes, super strong, etc. etc." says Tigerfan.  What Tigerfan fails to recognize is that tigers couldn't add 2+2 if their lives depended on it, don't have fingers or opposable thumbs, and are only able to run fast on 4 legs not 2.  IF any advantage is given to any race it should be VERY slight and at the cost of something equally or more useful.  Mittens' eyes are NOT as good as night goggles.  She does not have retractable claws.  Her sense of smell is on par with a human's.  Etc.  Etc.  On the other hand, she can walk on 2 legs, can speak a language fluently, has opposable thumbs, etc, etc.
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Well for Dragons with their scales it would be hard to break the bones, and also bats have fragile bones as well, since all flying creatures have to eliminate as much weight as possible to be light enough to fly. And scientists ahve theoriezed that if Dragons existed and we jsut haven't found fossil evidence yet, they might have used catalysts like platinium and hydrogen to breath fire, and the hydrogen would also help keep them light enough to fly.

I also agree with Mitten's idea about just refering people to link describing traits. Although if you can find a zoological site instead of wiki the links would be more accurate. I know a lot of people who do not trust wikipedia.

Problem with Mittens' comment is that if I refer people to a website, they will assume they can have ALL the attributes. But if I say you can't have them all, then I can't honestly provide a site. So I HAVE to specify. People need things spelled out for them or else they find loopholes and believe me... they take full advantage. Appreciate the thought, though.
This message had punctuation tweaked by the GM at 00:21, Tue 13 Feb 2007.

  And yet if I went all 'Aaaagh! zombies!' and proceeded to deal with the situation as chainsaw usage appropriate, I'd be the one everybody looked at funny.

  On the racial traits note, I wish I was the sort to try and take advantage of listed facts.  Considering in my attempts at figuring out how to make a char in some other game with a power armor gig I ask stupid self destructive questions like 'Would taking the 'normal human' disadvantage when I'm running around with a car tossing powered suit would be a cheapass thing to do?'.  At least I'm not surprised when the answer is yes.

  Though If it ever came to it I'd be doomed enough trying to fight sonic thanks to his 'main character' perks without suddenly finding myself the victim of malfunctioning ACME products in my attempts to stop him added into the mix.

You sure, Joe? People rarely aknowledge that anything you do is wrong. Weird, maybe, but not wrong. ;) But anyway, I'm not exactly sure what you are getting at.

He's refering to wiley coyote as a sterotypical coyote, and hoping he doesn't end up with those racial traits... I think.

LOL, no. I'm basing this on nature, due to the fact that this setting of StH is based on the idea that Mobius was once Earth a long time ago. Though as per Mittens' sound advice, I'm halving most abilities to start with. Based on how humanoid you are. The more animal-like, the more likely you are to have the animal traits closer to maximum. For instance, I think a normal Cheetah-morph mobian would be half as fast at maximum speed (35 MPH). But a kangaroo-morph might be more like 75% of a real kangaroo's speed due to not having humanoid legs, but rather more kangaroo like legs. I admit that at this early stage where it's just us, there is little to NO need for me to write all this, but I'm having too much fun and would love having it there in case I do have more players in the future.

At this moment, I'm waiting for a post from Mittens. And I must appologise to Joe for my not being able to think up much for him during the visit to Aquarius. It made too much sense ICly for the decision to be to let Joe go back to Channelwood. But he'll get his day. And he can join the action soon enough too. To again, sorry about that, Joe! I hope you're not upset about not being able to post for a while!

 S'alright, it gave me an exscuse to be lazy... If fixing ceilings could be considered lazy?

For RL purposes, you have to admit... pretending to do hard work generally beats actually doing it. Though in Joe's case ICly, he's prolly wishing he was on assignment by now since discovering the wonders of SWATbot disection is more fun in his book than cieling repair happiness.

At least he hasn't had to deal with children ICly.

Something so silly I just had to share it.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/f...hread.php?t=10119978

The partial list of radoms sayings while affliced by 'spiritual possesion'...

    * "Get away from my baby!"
    * "My cat's name is Mittens."
    * "This house has many hearts."
    * "And this is where I met the Lich. He told me to burn things."
    * "All is well. I am not insane."
    * "No one can stop me, let alone you puny mortals!"
    * "As a boy I spent much time in these lands."
    * "It's a trick. Get an axe."
    * "Do you like my fish balloon? Can you hear it signing to you...?"
    * "Mommy, where are you? I can't find you. I can't. I'm afraid of the Light, mommy. I'm afraid of the light."
    * "Klaatu...barada...nikto!"
    * "You are no match for my almighty power."
    * "Cross over children. All are welcome. All welcome. Go into the light. There is peace and serenity in the light."
    * "You're disgusting, but I love you!"
    * Are you the Keymaster?"
    * "We must prepare for the coming of Banjo the Clown, God of the Puppets."
    * "You are messing with
    * "I see dead people"
    * "Take me now, subcreature."
    * "My cat's breath smells like cat food."
    * "Human sacrifice. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria."
    * "When I grow up, I want to be a principal or a caterpillar."
    * "I have returned!"
    * "4...Itchy...Tasty..."
    * "Soon you will all be crushed."
    * "Oh boy sleep! Now thats where I'm a Luxon"
    * "Keep away! The sow is mine."
    * "The house is clean."

Waiting to post, just in case Joe or Mittens have any comments, etc.

LOL!  I get that a lot on FFXI.  :P

The spirtual possesion was funny, my brother kepts getting posessed and was randomly saying things and when I told him about "Klaatu...barada...nikto!", as if on queue that is the one he said.

Couldn't get him to say the cat one though. It was hilarious seeing him with that effect going on during battles in a mission he screen was so messed up he could only 'tab' + 'c' to find a target since the warping effect made it hard to target manually.

No matter how hard I tried I couldn't get that effect on me though.

Tim seems to think you might have an answer to this question, Sam...  What's the significance of the right ear, thumb, and big toe?  o.o;

"Then shalt thou kill the ram, and take of his blood, and put it upon the tip of the right ear of Aaron, and upon the tip of the right ear of his sons, and upon the thumb of their right hand, and upon the great toe of their right foot, and sprinkle the blood upon the altar round about."  -  Ex. 29:20

Been re-reading the book, and there's a lot in there that's lost on my modern mind.  :P

Never mind, found a good explanation at http://www.studylight.org/com/...pter=29&verse=20

"The putting the blood of the sacrifice on the tip of the right ear, the thumb of the right hand, and the great toe of the right foot, was doubtless intended to signify that they should dedicate all their faculties and powers to the service of God; their ears to the hearing and study of his law, their hands to diligence in the sacred ministry and to all acts of obedience, and their feet to walking in the way of God's precepts. And this sprinkling appears to have been used to teach them that they could neither hear, work, nor walk profitably, uprightly, and well-pleasing in the sight of God, without this application of the blood of the sacrifice. And as the blood of rams, bulls, and goats, could never take away sin, does not this prove to us that something infinitely better is shadowed out, and that we can do nothing holy and pure in the sight of a just and holy God, but through the blood of atonement?"

  Why'd you go and say that? No we're officialy doomed as opposed to probably doomed.

I do not believe in movie cliches.

Movie cliches are one thing, sure... but this goes beyond movies. Murphy's law is there for a reason, ya know. But still, me and my bro are masters of Jynx and know how it works (And trust me... it works about 99% of the time. It's a rare fluke when it doesn't work): The fact Mittens said "I hope" means that her words have no effect one way or another. If she said "Something bad's going to happen." it won't. If she said, "We'll be fine!" then something bad would happen. The basics of jynx law is that if you try predicting something, the opposite will happen.

How have me and my bro mastered it? It's simple: Make sure that no matter what you are doing, the outcome is desirable. Example: We were waiting for our dad to come downstairs in order to go to breakfast together as a family. He's normally slow in the mornings. Very slow. So I looked at Chris and said, "Time to jynx him to come downstairs." I stuck a DVD in the player and within a minute, he was downstairs and ready to go. Which was just enough time to get past the FBI warning and other stuff, but not enough time to watch even an ounce of the show. :)

You can believe or not, it matters not to me. But I know how things have turned out and it seems the power of jynxing things is real. I think it's something God made out of His sense of humor.

So is that why no one is posted afraid things will be jinxed because I said 'hope' that things keep going as they have been.

I just haven't had time to post lately. Sorry. Maybe I'll write some posts at work and then bring 'em here.

YAY!  Timothius finally posted the pic he drew of Mobian Mittens!  =^.^=

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/49779881/

Today is going to be a full day for me. Sleep, movie, nap to make up for lost sleep, go to work. I'm not posting today. Sorry.

As we all know, Chapter 1 is coming to a close. I even intend to end Chapter 1 before Shelly and Mittens get that "new shield" for Mittens. Chapter 2 is ready for discussion. What, if anything, did you all want to see happen in Chapter 2? I want to introduce my new character, but am unsure if I want to do that in this chapter or not. Samuel had a good idea for the next chapter as this has already kind of been discussed. But I wanted to double-check with everyone before starting Chapter 2.

I would like to add that putting this stuff on the TP thread would make sense, but only if there are actual plot ideas.
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Bert is EVIL!  http://www.mugshots.org/misc/bert.html

I'm not sure if this is the place to do it or not, but I wanted to say "Hi" to all of you and tell you that I've just been newly accepted and can't wait to join in after I work out a few details in the background story.
This looks very interesting so far, and very fun :)

  Ah, the dreaded 'how did I get here?' figuring.  I can manage mildly sarcastic comments with ease, but ask me to give a decent back story and my brain fails spectacularly.  Good luck with that and good to have yah.

Hello, welcome to the RP...
 Unlike with Joe, I'm pretty good at working on background story elements, it's just my sarcasm can fail me, which annoys me as I enjoy sarcasm as much as Joe does.

This is the place to say "hi" and ask questions and all that. This is where we can talk about literally ANYTHING. We could talk about Scooby Doo or how messy our rooms are (Not that we would). Feel free. And as you can see, the people here are quite helpful and hospitible.

Welcome!  \^.^/

Funny you should mention that...  Just the other day Scooby Doo barged into my room and made a mess of things...  Just kidding!  :P

An example of how open OOC room is:

http://www.otterdude.com/?Strip=28

LOL!



That should be Spaceman Sam's theme.  ;)

Huh? I don't shoot rockets from my shoes.

For all you Lord of the Rings fans you might want to check out Lord of the Rings Online

http://lotro.turbine.com/

Thanks for the link, Valin. And now for something actually related to this forum! In the name of all things that are cool beyond measure, go here:

http://s3k.ocremix.org

Click on Knuckles' face then click on the thingy that lets you enter. Begin downloading. Enjoy.
This message was lightly edited by the GM at 01:36, Wed 28 Mar 2007.

Yummy links!  Thanks!

Welcome to the forum, Hart!  Awesome character!  ^.^
(Somehow I'm reminded of the "Bulletin Train" scene from "Myspace the Movie" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAh6WwKILfk)  :P

Thanks for the welcome :) I really hope that Hart turns out to be fun for you guys to learn about and interact with, and that I can play him in such a way.

Ah, the MySpace movie... I'd heard something about that.  There always seems to be a lot of violent opposition to MySpace as a whole as well as staunch support.  That's why I just shrug and don't get involved with it at all :P

But the video is worth watching. I have a myspace and I enjoyed the video.

Ah, I just finished watching the video all the way through.  Definitely hilarious and worth it ;) I'm not sure what to think after watching it, but those guys did a great job of directing and acting.  They definitely touched on some popular issues of the site.

Who here has gotten a hold of the recently released Sonic the Hedgehog SatAM series on DVD? Me and Mittens have it. I'm realatively sure Samuel has it (Judging from an earlier conversation I had with him). Who else has it?
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I got it a few days ago.  The extras are quite nice, as is the fanart.  I haven't watched it through yet, but that'll come once school slows down.

Hey, everyone! I'm waiting on some GM approval before I'm official, but I figured it'd be okay if I dropped by the OOC beforehand.

I don't have much experience with Sonic, aside from the video games Adventure 1, 2, and Heroes...and the really really old cartoon with the chili dogs...

But, anyway, I think I found a site with the far more recent one that y'all are talking about, so hopefully I'll get read up on the whole thing in short order.

Well I can tell ya this: The theme has nothing to do with "Sonic and the Secret Rings" (For the Wii) or the Sonic game that came out for PS3. ;) I made a theme once that was based on as many games as possible and it was fun. But in my experience, so far, this theme opens for more RP. Maybe I'll open the other place, but for now, I'll see where this place takes us all.

Welcome, Kyton. And just FYI, the villains don't get near as much RP as the heroes. Just the nature of things. So be sure that you app a hero if you want to see more RP. However, the advantage of villainy is that you can pipe in any time once you are approved (I'll give an example by posting something with Blipvert here soon). Just be sure that once you do, you don't magically know where either village is. :)

Oh... and a thought I'd like EVERYONE's opinion on... I was thinking of having a private series of posts for the villains (Either a seperate section of posts altogether, or the posts on the actual chapter being private posts to all villain characters) so that the heroes have no idea what the villains are up to, making RP that much more exciting.

  With the growing popularity of multiple characters here that would only work on those who just have one guy.  And you did just suggest Kyton make a less evil char as well.

  On that note, welcome to crazy town Kyton.

I feel stupid now. :p

  Welcome aboard, fellow silent violence type guy.

Samuel rigs up Timothius' computer to play 'Dare to be Stupid' by Weird Al upon booting up. Why because it would be funny and it's a classic Weird Al song.

Nevermind that since I'm a huge Transformers fan and "Dare to be Stupid" was in the old movie's soundtrack, it'd be fittin. :p

Somehow I doubt it'll be in the new transformer's movie though.
But I will admit it fit perfectly into the old one.

You could make a Group 1 thread so that the villains could see it but not the heroes...and have enough faith in humanity to hope those with 2 characters don't metagame.

I mean, not all heroes have to be PCs, you could run an NPC group of heroes for the villains to take down while they wait for the players.

Just a thought...

An excellent thought, Kyton. I think that would work. NPC goodguys to fight. But taking down the ever-cautious FF's will be a challenge. Just not as challenging as taking on Robotnik. ;)

Heya Kyton :) Interesting character you have so far.  It'll be fun to see him in action.
Honestly, a villans' forum wouldn't be a terrible idea. There'd have to be more trust in folks, but it's probably just a bit of a larger amount of trust needed than for folks who play multiple characters and sides now.  It'd really give more RP weight to evil characters.  I'd be worried about players fighting themselves, though.  That might get a bit complicated...

Its never come up in any freeform RPs I've been in before, but I imagine fighting yourself would probably work out quite well. You wouldn't have to settle for lame "Z is attempting to disembowel X with a rusty spork" actions, just because you're afraid of going overboard and offending somebody.

You could actually chain some attacks and get a good flashy combo off with no complaints aimed at you. "Z runs straight at X, then pulls his feet right out from under himself, hitting the floor with a thud, and narrowly missing the punch aimed at his skull. Then, with a smirk, he jabs his foot into X's ankles, and as the prat falls forward, gouges his stomach with a rusty spork, causing a spout of blood to issue forth onto the ground."

Otherwise, you'd have to say you run at him, then hit the ground, then attempt to kick his feet out from under him. After that, you'd wait a day or two for a response, which more likely than not is a post telling you that you failed and your combo is over before it began.
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Hi guys.  I'm a friend of Timothius', and my character for the RP is Nighteyes. Thought I'd introduce myself.  I do have an idea for a villain char who I will submit for approval towards Chapter 3, and I warn you though, it's a doozy. :)

Welcome, Nighteyes! Those of you who RP on Cosmic Muffin, Nighteyes is from there. I'll let him decide wether he wants to say who he is or not. Now that he's introduced himself and said his piece, I'd like to propose that perhaps chapter 3 is where all the new bots get introduced.

Also, seems that between the 2 applicants I've gotten for robots added up with my own bot and the possible other bot alt that another player here may get, Ra will have his own group of eleet that could pose an imbalance of power. Fortunately for our theme, it would be in the favor of Robotnik. Also fortunate is that I started off with Aquarius and Channelwood teaming up. So maybe things will balance out. But let's not forget that the Aquarius FFs have Urser to worry about also. Suggestions on balancing things would be nice since it's almost looking like Middletown has more special agents than Robotropolis itself. Not that I have a problem with it personally, just trying to figure things out is all.

If you wanted to give a reason why Robotnik has less agents to use during a single chapter, you could have a different group of heroes whom are not the players knock out a communications array, thus only the robot agents that are actually at the place already where the player heroes are doing their mission would be able to take part, because Robotnik would have no way of sending reinforcements.

Then, it'd just be players versus players...and the couple useless SWATbots that noone cares about.

It wouldn't give Robotropolis any more special characters, but it would explain the lack of them.

I hope thats what you were talking about...

I will be listing a list of average height and weight for each race next to their names. I looked up the sizes of various Sonic characters and, well, they were (Like everything else in Sonic) inconsistant. So I'll be making up height and weight from scratch essentially. I will also be posting a test or list of "don't"s that will test how good a Sonic character is. Why post this here? To make sure it gets done.

In reply to Kyton, we'll see what happens. This is, after all, my forum. So I could say that Robotnik DOES have more quality bots in Robotroplolis. Just that since they are up against Sonic, they get trashed quickly. The Dino-bot comes to mind. That thing is approximately 3 times bigger than Ra and probabley that many times stronger too. But oh well, it's down for the count.

Well, matter or not, I play Rick, Sol, and Lonesong on Cosmic Muffin.  If anyone is at all interested, the villain I will be bringing here is a prototype assassin robot, much like Mecha, although his design is significantly different.  He's going to be fun. :)

  And the number of semi-super ninjas increases again. On both sides this time.  If Joe wasn't the semi-lazy except when needed type, he might care that there's competition for the job.

  On the robots of doom angle, the sudden increase in their numbers is making me want to hold off on trying for one myself.  However the fact thay're all super fancy pants prototypes/infiltrators/Armageddon delivery boys also makes me want to go with the glorified swat bot gig for comparison more as well.

  "You were built with crazy gas and flying saw blades? So what. I'm capable of coherent thought and... rocks don't dent me?... You're lucky I wasn't built with tear ducts."

  On the Cmuffin angle, I'm sure if the name didn't give me away my particular variety of crazy talk would.

Oh, c'mon...does shoving someone in your belly and dragging their ass cross-country really count as "assassination"?

  Nah, that would be under 'mildly creepy boredom followed by doom'.  Or that Infiltrator wedged between prototypes and armageddon delivery boys what with the cloaking.

Hey, I never said Nighteyes was Semi-super.  he's good, but nothing beyond what can be expected for somebody who was trained for 17 years, but has had 10 years in which he has had nobody to help him maintain his training.   As to K9-X, well, his being a prototype is for a good reason.  he's far from perfected.    You'll see when he is brought in.

Nighteyes would kick Katy's butt in hand-to-hand or swordfighting. But on the other hand, Katy has a group of Freedom Fighters on hand and Joe has the awesome power of mysteriously being places and going unnoticed so he may as well have cloaking. ;) I can see the scene now:

Nighteyes posts:
Nighteyes puts his ninja training to use as he sneaks all throughout the tree village Channelwood. It's pretty clear who the leader's hut is since it has a prominant place high above everyone else, so he heads there, sneaking in. Sword already drawn, he is prepared in case something should go wrong.

Joe posts:
The problem with swords is that they tend to reflect light. And with a certain crazy maniac who likes staying up late being out and about, that can only mean the spotting of a ninja. When Nighteyes arrives in Katy's hut, Joe is there waiting and says, "I'd say try to be quiet, but that'd just be silly." of course, why should Joe be quiet? After all, Nighteyes was being quiet and THAT didn't wake Katy to alert her...

Of course, I'm sure both of you would pose differently than my example, but you get the idea. There is no reason to get up in arms about Nighteyes being a ninja when, as Nighteyes has stated, he's not as skilled as a full-fledged ninja (Despite the anime law of teenage superiority... which even that doesn't apply anymore since, by that very law, Nighteyes is an "old fogey" by now).

  I had meant it in the sense that like Joe, some of the recent arrivals enjoy that pastimes of sneaking around, stabbing things, dodging lasers, and stabbing things. It's been a while since Ive manage to get anyone to take my ridiculous comments seriously.

  It's also good to know that if anything happens to me, Tim's got my particular method of lunacy down to keep the player base confused.  Though to Joe's confusion, half the time he's trying to get noticed yet nobody pays attention to him or any blatant threats of death he's making.  The other half I will admit he's hiding slightly off panel.

Personally, I don't mind if everyone is a stealthy kinda character, who sneaks around, their hopes placed in the single knife thrust through the back before everyone is alert of their existence. I believe that if a clash of invisible foes occured, rather than it being flashy and drawn out, it would be a game of skill, finesse, and gut-wrenching suspense as each puts all their senses to the test to reveal their enemy without themselves being detected.

I believe it would go a bit like this:

Character 1: I know that sneaky blighter is around here somewhere, and I'm willing to bet my life on being all the sneakier. Tip toe tip toe tip toe.

<3 hour time skip>

Character 1: Aww, $%#@ it. "Marco!"

<30 seconds later>

Character 2: "... ... ..Polo..."

Now that... is funny. :)

I think we're going to have a lot of fun, guys.  I plan on introducing Nighteyes with the captives, having been caught trying to help them, and his blade having been lost.
Of course, that doesn't render his other skills worthless.. And your example was very close to what I saw happening, except NE wouldn't have drawn his sword, it would be his feline eyes that reflected the light. :P

Interesting tidbit I learned about eyes reflecting light.
Dog and wolf eyes reflect green which I've known for years when I looked into my the eyes of my family dogs at night. While coyote eyes reflect yellow. Human eyes oddly enough don't reflect light at all. Probably due to our poorer night vision (Although once our eyes adjust to darkness at least we aren't blind, Mythbusters did prove that with their testing of the eye patch myth, but even then I believe most other animals have better night vision than us, but we can carry light with us as a tool), but it does give human an advantage at night, shining a light around will reveal dogs, wolves, and coyotes, and other similar animals (including cats but I'm not familiar with what color their eyes reflect) but humans would not be revealed unless the light also illuminates the human itself. Found that out on the discovery channel.

most cats eyes reflect either yellow or green, yellow I think it is.

thought you guys might get a chuckle out of this:

bloodninja: Baby, I been havin a tough night so treat me nice aight?
BritneySpears14: Aight.
bloodninja: Slip out of those pants baby, yeah.
BritneySpears14: I slip out of my pants, just for you, bloodninja.
bloodninja: Oh yeah, aight. Aight, I put on my robe and wizard hat.
BritneySpears14: Oh, I like to play dress up.
bloodninja: Me too baby.
BritneySpears14: I kiss you softly on your chest.
bloodninja: I cast Lvl. 3 Eroticism. You turn into a real beautiful woman.
BritneySpears14: Hey...
bloodninja: I meditate to regain my mana, before casting Lvl. 8 c**k of the Infinite.
BritneySpears14: Funny I still don't see it.
bloodninja: I spend my mana reserves to cast Mighty F*ck of the Beyondness.
BritneySpears14: You are the worst cyber partner ever. This is ridiculous.
bloodninja: Don't f*ck with me bitch, I'm the mightiest sorcerer of the lands.
bloodninja: I steal yo soul and cast Lightning Lvl. 1,000,000 Your body explodes into a fine bloody mist, because you are only a Lvl. 2 Druid.
BritneySpears14: Don't ever message me again you piec+e of ****.
bloodninja: Robots are trying to drill my brain but my lightning shield inflicts DOA attack, leaving the robots as flaming piles of metal.
bloodninja: King Arthur congratulates me for destroying Dr. Robotnik's evil army of Robot Socialist Republics. The cold war ends. Reagan steals my accomplishments and makes like it was cause of him.
bloodninja: You still there baby? I think it's getting hard now.
bloodninja: Baby?

Hehe, that reminds me of the Family Guy scene where Peter and Lois are trying out "RolePlaying" in bed, and Peter tells her that he's a level 20 paladin or something to that effect.

That is disturbing and I'm not referring to the family guy skit.

  If anyone, Spaceman Sam would be the one to notice a native to the forest approach from behind...  Especially considering the day-dreaminess of Mittens and the on-a-deadly-missioniness and have-cybernetic-implantsiness of Sam...  Which makes me think Sam knew about the impending collision but didn't alert Mits out mischievous intentions.  :P

  *Looks up the D&D RP rulebook*  Ah here it is.  Chapter 11, subsection-3, paragraph 2 - "When daydreaming, all characters take a -12 modifier to Intuition."  (I made that up.)  >.>

Naturally, Samuel is a prankster after all...I find the situation rather amusing. And I didn't have to lift a finger, all I had to do is keep my mouth shut.

Actually that part of the D&D rulebook says that clerics with the Air Domain are granted the following ability: "Turn or destroy earth creatures as a good cleric turns undead. Rebuke, command, or bolster air creatures as an evil cleric rebukes undead. Use these abilities a total number of times per day equal to 3 + your charisma modifier. This granted power is a supernatural ability."

And the cybering thing was indeed amusing, though I've seen far more humourous playing World of Warcraft. Dwarf priest orgy in the cathedral? Oh...thats damn good entertainment.

That is enough to make someone pray to the porcelain throne. I have enough bad memories of wasted time on WoW... I'd not like a side order of repulsiveness.

*Laughs at the D&D rulebook correction.*

WoW was fun while it lasted...  but that time has passed.  Now to waste time in LotRO!  XD

  Joe can hook Mittens up with some of those fun time rear view spy sunglasses if she wants.    He's lacking in the fake Rolex department though.

LotRo FTL!

WAR FTW!

But thats just me. I'd rather be a chosen of the forces of chaos, reigning unholy death upon PvP capital cities and laying waste to wonderful chuncks of exp...in PvP. While...PvPing the crap out of battlefields that are entirely balanced around a point value system so no side is more powerful than the other, thus emphasizing the use of strategy over "whoever has farmed the phattest lewts wins".

Rather than...being a hobbit, and gouging my way through legion after endless legion of NPC orcs and poorly rendered spiders while the gold farmers ninja all the monsters I have my PvE quests for.

I'm really fed up with WoW, too. Its just holding me over until WAR. Collision Detection, the Point Balancing, and the ability to level and obtain gear entirely by pvping makes it far more desirable for me. The way they've organized loot and leveling up, buying gold/gold farming is almost entirely useless. Even if I went to LotRo, I'd just spend all my time in that one area where you're allowed to play as monster characters, but WAR, I can be my precious forces of chaos, which makes a lot of difference (for me).

Guess you haven't heard about Monster play, where the mosnters don't use equipment at all just traits and stuff. And they are balanced against max level player characters.

And it's all about groups of one side raiding against groups of another to take over keeps and such.

Yes, I suppose my not knowing about monster play prompted me to post this:

That is what I get for posting when I'm tired.

Honestly, I think LotRo is going to be a good game, and probably a lot better than WoW, but I also think it'll have several of the same shortcomings (maybe not to the same degree) and will be more PvE than PvP. Which is fine, but what little fair PvP I've experienced before gave me (personally) a lot more satisfaction than the solo/group quests and such. The idea that PvP will be fair, balanced, and an actually viable way to obtain gear, experience, and even gruesome trophies in WAR (like mounting skulls on your armor spikes, or the severed beards of dwarves you've killed) appeals to me far more.

And even though I've read all the LotR books, and had a brief obsessive stint with it, I still like the Warhammer universe a bit better. The struggle with the Chaos Gods and the splintering of the elves, and how Orcs function as a species and as a society...it might not be 'better' per se, but I believe it'll be more fun to participate in.

But those are just my opinions. I'm not saying everyone has to agree with them...

Guess you like games like Wolfenstein Enemy Territory or Planetside as well where it's nothing but pvp.

It's nothing wrong with such games, although when my brother decided to play a little Wolf ET last night and told me he got the highest kill count in the game by around 20 I was a bit surprised at that given he hadn't played the game in probably over a year. (Although unlike before his death count was pretty high, but he was just horsing around....which I think is a bit scary.)

...which is one of the many reasons why I looove LotRO.  <3

PvP?  No thanks.  One of the big reasons I left WoW was for the many times I was ganked by enemy chars 30+ levels higher than me.  Very annoying.  Instanced PvP wasn't much fun after the first few times either.  Like you said, it was all about twinking.  I prefer teaming up with friends to kill gods to stomping lvl 1 druids or being stomped by a lvl 50 cleric.  (For the record I never ganked anyone lower level than me.  That's mean and pointless.)  Though I guess I'll try out LotRO's monster play once or twice for giggles.  :p

Besides...  I have THREE PS3s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enau4SKqeZY
This message was last edited by the player at 16:36, Fri 13 Apr 2007.

  The only MMO stuff I've done was try out Everquest when it first came out.

  After the tenth guy to try and trick me out of my hard earned low level rat/orc etc skins with stuff such as 'My trade screen isn't working, just drop it on the ground and I'll give you the cash', I said to myself "Right, censored this game."

  That, and I didn't feel like giving long term payage.  Goes against the causal play outlook even more than usual when you need to make sure you get your moneys worth.  The super goodies outlook probably wouldn't have made as much of a diffrence with my deliberatly going for 'doesn't use shiny weapons' monk class anyways.

Well, I would totally agree with your PvE/PvP outlook if it weren't for their overhauling of the concept of support and tank classes and the major acts of balancing (not only power, but time played, since farming is no longer a useful way of attaining powerful items). In addition, in instanced PvP, the sides will be balanced according to power no matter what, so you can't get one-shotted by a guy 8 levels higher than you like in WoW, and outside of instanced PvP, there are areas where there are no World PvP allowed, and restrictions put in about high level characters being able to just run in and mow down the lowbies.

There'll be lots of PvE too, for when I want a change of pace...and even the PvE supports the PvP effort, giving your side victory points and boosts even when not participating in the actual PvP battles.

I like the idea of PvP because its not just killing another deific being, who aside from dealing X amount of damage more than the guy before it, is still as braindead and generic. The idea of fighting an opponent who can think about his strategy (did I mention that WAR will require actual strategy and tactics in its pvp battles?) and think about my own strategy, and react accordingly, which makes me change my strategy, and so on and so forth.

However, that idea was killed by the horrid WoW PvP which was unbalanced and had no strategy, so far as I know. I mean, how much strategy is involved in either being the Warlock who Deathcoils => Fears => Dots => Blasts you before you can even do anything, or being the poor sap of any other class who just runs around like an artard with a big purple skull of your head against said Warlock? Well, when I see WAR, that dream is born again inside me; of a game where I can pimp my character as much as I want, and go up against people who have done the same, and still have a fight revolving around not only personal skill, but teamwork and long-term strategy; where tanks can actually tank other players without actually forcing the other people to attack them; where support classes aren't just the 'sit in the back and buff/heal/buff/heal/die' guys. I dream of a better tommorrow for the MMO community where I can say "I came, I fought, and no matter the outcome, I had fun"

----

Also, theres a new Sonic game on this site:
link to "Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaos Dawn"

Please take a look at it if you're looking for another game to take part in. If you RTJ, please, for the love of god, tell the GM that Metallix (or Metal Sonic, whatever) sent you, because I've got a deal going with him and it'd really help me (and probably the whole game in the long run) if you did so.

I forgot. Is heat-sensor vision standard swatbot equipment? I need to make a SWATbot character sheet to show the standard SWATbot abilities as soon as I can.

Heat senors are standard on Swatbots but aren't used by default, there are times they are told to turn them on, however they can also turn them on if they feel the need to. (They are probably kept off to minimize power use and keep the processing load lower on their CPUs) Hoverunits also have heat sensors that are always on, but those sensors like the ones of the SWATBots can sufferer from interference from generators and other electrical equipment that throws off a lot of 'heat/thermal radiation'.

Ironically the heat sensors in a Swatbot are located in an arm, along with their radio, why the robots don't just have one built into their helmet/head I don't know. Then again the 'suits' they wear kind of look like they may have 'evolved' from suits soldiers wore, in which case locating the sensors and radio on a forearm would make more sense especially with how different mobians have different types of ears  so a universal headset would be a bit more difficult than simply having the radio on an arm.

You should be a WAR PR rep!  Depending on how expensive it is to try it out, I just might!  :P

Sorry I was out of it. Part of it is due to being bedridden for a couple days with this stupid illness that's been going around. Here's hoping RP picks up again.

Congradulations, Nighteyes! You made the 700th post! Woohoo!

Please take note:

I thought about it a bit and figured it would be a cool thing to add: You know how in AD&D, dragons had a FEAR aura? Well in the real world, technology can do the same thing with extremely low frequency waves and such. It taps into the part of your brain that induces fear. So I figured, why WOULDN'T Ra come equipped with that seeing as how he's a dragon? Thoughts?

Meanwhile, Mittens would post today, but is sick (Caught my sickness) so it's questionable wether Mitts will post or not. I'm kinda waiting on Mittens before Shelly posts. So please be patient.

Actually the closest technology that I know of that makes someone run away isn't due to fear, it's due to focused microwave energy that heats up the surface of the skin without penetrating deeper so the person instinctively wants to move somewhere else due to being uncomfortable. It's a useful from a tactical sense to disrupt those trying to start up a riot by focusing it on the ones in charge, or on a shooter trying to use a crowd as cover. They even have the system designed so well that it can't lasting harm to a person no matter how long they are exposed (which means even no damage to the eyes which are quite vulnerable to this sort of technology.) When they demoed the technology on Future weapons it was quite interesting. (And quite amusing when Mac tried to drag someone else into the effected 'region' to 'share the love' since he didn't like being the only one affected by it. Needless to say due to how focused it was, he wasn't able to do so, but it was good for a laugh anyways.) Tools like that provide law enforcement and military with non lethal ways to detour people from rioting without harming them. (Hard to riot when your instincts are telling you to move as it is quite distracting.)

Can you point out an article explaining how a low frequency weapon can instill actual fear into some one at any range... this sounds an awful lot like the 'brown note myth' (which was busted on Mythbusters) where a sound wave could make someone loose bowel control and soil their pants. The closest I can think of to a fictional technology that your talking about is the fear gas from batman begins.

However, if Robotnik had technology to instill fear in someone like your suggesting he'd just flood his headquarters with it whenever a FF attacked his headquarters to make Sonic so afraid he couldn't fight, and if you could instill enough fear to make even Sonic cower even for a second... then he'd already be captured and roboticized (as would anyone else venturing into Robotropolis and tripping an alarm) as even a swatbot could hit someone stationary, it's moving targets they have problems with. So you do need to think of the ramifications of what your saying. Besides being a rather large robotic dragon that looks like it has come either straight from the bowels of hell or from a nightmare should be scary in itself... having to generate a 'fear aura' seems redundant.

Finally, if anyone getting near Ra is forced into a state of fear, then A your making Ra able to dictate how others can react around him which is twinking (a no-no as it is against the rules), and B would make Ra so powerful even a hundred Sonics could beat him since if they got near him the fear effect would force them to flee while he just uses projectile weapons on the fear filled hedgehogs. (Ra's only weakness would be to try to blast him with projectile weapons from outside the fear zone, and I doubt anyone other than Robotnik has weapons powerful enough to do that.) I don't know about you, but that doesn't sound very fun, and if it was the case, what is Ra doing in Middletown and not hunting down Sonic? And why aren't other robots equipped with this fear generating device? Ra is powerful, but wouldn't this be overkill why not just rename him 'Mr. DBZ' if your going to give him the ability to force someone away from him at will like how a strong character in DBZ could 'power up' and let the force of their power fling someone else away.

In short I think fear inducing technology would be a problem unless there are severe limits to it. The 'weakness' in the 'make someone move' technology is that although you can move the focus zone with someone line of sight blocks it and they are free to move in ANY direction they want, so if someone is already moving they will tend to keep on moving, and it's not handy to try and capture someone with as it becomes harder to capture someone that will keep on moving as opposed to one that will stand still. (Which is why I doubt Robotnik would want to use tech to make someone move from a spot.)

  I'll get back to you on that as soon as I figure out a 'technical' way to explain why Joe would stick to his 'slap Cthulhu and call him names' methods.  Especially given the tendency for passive gigs like ignoring how fancy something is tend to cause more ooc headaches than having the ability to level buildings I've noticed.

  Though on the plus side, if they went DBZ style we could slowly beat them to their destruction with rocks while they stand around screaming charging the orbital laser.

  Also hope they feel better soonish, as being sick doesn't tend to be pleasant
This message was last edited by the player at 20:20, Tue 24 Apr 2007.

For all the stuff you said, Sam, the one point that buries this is that if Robotnik HAD this tech, he'd have used it long ago to stop Sonic and them from ever invading.

As for where to find out about the tech, sorry, but I don't know. And mythbusters don't have access to advanced military tech. I didn't mean to say it was just low frequency soundwaves, but rather a controlled technology. Anyways... like I said, Ra can't have the power due to earlier said reasoning.

Since the discovery of electricity experiments have been conducted publicly and secretly on how to make it into an effective weapon.  The success of the secret experiments can only be speculated on, but testimonies from Gulf War 1 of Iraqi soldiers surrendering to anything that moved raises eyebrows.  For example Commando solo, a psyops aircraft, is rumored to have more capabilities than those that are published openly by the Airforce: http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=182 vs. http://www.raven1.net/commsolo.htm

I'm sure there's at least a shred of truth in the "secret super weapon" speculations - the military probably tried to make superweapon X, met with limited success, and allowed some information about the weapon to leak to scare the pants off the enemy.  On the other hand, the SR-71 was in service in the 60's - long before PCs and cellphones - and was partially declassified many years later.  The gap between what the public thinks is cutting-edge weapons tech and what's really cutting-edge is pretty wide.  Given the nasty stuff that's been declassified, no telling what's been cooked up behind closed doors.  When it comes to weapons technology, "It's not as bad as you think.  It's worse than you think."

By the way....  Heard that Sam's internet went down last night in a major way.  No telling how long before it'll be repaired.

It came back up sometime this morning (between midnight and 6am I believe), some street construction worker screwed up and cut through a fiber optic cable and took out the entire campus' internet access. This also ment that the entire louisville.edu domain was offline yesterday evening.

I have a question that's kinda bothering me when trying to figure out this RP... How realistic are we being and how close are we staying to the show?  It seems like a lot of arguments pop up for realistic devices, animal qualities, and robot behavior, but a lot of those things were ignored or simply unimportant in the SatAM show.  The robots in that show were actually very anthropomorphic, from falling for Sonic's imitations of Robotnik's voice to exhibiting fear, shock, and frustration.  The Freedom Fighters themselves were rarely to scale with their animal counterparts and often had very odd coloring, like Sonic being blue and Rotor being purple.  I just wonder, if we stay too close to realism, doesn't that somehow take away that important fantasy element that the show embodied?

Mind you, I'm not really complaining about the RP here, but I'm just pointing out that it's really difficult sometimes to figure out how to combine the light-hearted and fantastical elements of the show with the more realistic and serious atmosphere that we seem to be developing here.

It sort of depends on the situation, regarding my bracers, there are set limitations on them (not all of which are public knowledge yet) to keep them from being too powerful and being able to make convincing holograms would be one of them that would let me make 'mirror images' to use as cover in a fight among other things... that doesn't mean the technology to make such holograms doesn't exist, on the contrary it probably does, it just means it is beyond what my equipment can do.

In general I think being realistic is relative to what is being discussed, we like to try to keep the technology grounded in at least some semblance of reality simply to prevent a power creep towards the 'DBZ syndrome'.

I can't speak for everyone but I can say how I view things:
For example, I said while the robots probably wouldn't fall for mistaking a 'semitransparent' holographic image as the real thing they would fall for a ventriloquist act. There is a lot of difference between being able to realize if a sound is genuine or not compared to an image you can clearly see. I'm sure that a SWATBot would fall for a convincing hologram (and Sonic probably would as well as most other people) but unless you have a projector that can make one...the point is moot.

I personally avoid trying to directly compare a mobian to their real life equivalently... since then we'd have the canines (wolves, foxes, and coyotes) wanting to eat the hedgehogs, squirrels and rabbits. And don't forget the hedgehog running around at the speed of sound, and a two tailed fox flying like a helicopter.

As far as robots go, I figure if it couldn't fool a person why would it fool a robot as I treat them as anthropomorphic, just somewhat simple minded which does not necessarily mean they are stupid. Just not creative.

As far as most other technology goes, if it likely that someday it could exist then let it exist unless its existence would disrupt the storyline (like a machine that could induce a fear inducing aura so strong it would paralyze people) i.e. if the laws of physics don't say it can not be done, let it exist unless its existence would create a problem for the storyline.

Edit: Be careful what you convince Samuel to do... give him too much freedom with just make a holographic distraction and he will do something silly such as having Robotnik looking drunk and singing 'I'm too sexy' really badly, and doing a strip tease (down to just skivies and waving cape around) while dancing/prancing around.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:42, Tue 01 May 2007.

*Shudders.*

I'd lean toward the lighter side of things m'self.  In the cartoon, robots could be fooled with disguises made of buckets with faces painted on them.  Buut methinks the wiz here, namely Timothius, is too fond of the whole gloomy, apocalyptic-world-that-only-has-cute-furries-in-it-to-make-the-gloom-all-the-gloomier-by-contrast to stick too closely to the cartoon's good-guys-always-win theme.  :P

Timothius, just remember this is what happens when you take cartoons too seriously:

http://ojas.net/external/finding-emo.png

;)
This message was last edited by the player at 14:22, Wed 02 May 2007.

If you'd shudder, image what the SWATBots and Ra would do... I wouldn't be surprised if Ra was outraged 'publicly' yet kept a copy of the recording to possibly use against Robotnik later if it came necessary. Also I'm sure some people would find that image rather hilarious once they got past the revoltion of seeing Robotnik nearly nude. (Think Chris Farley doing his Chippendale dance for Saturday Night Live.) But in any case it would definitely be 'distracting'. And love to see the look on Robotnik's face when he was shown the recording. I'm sure Snively would start laughing till Robotnik yelled at him, and Snively would continue to chuckle when Robotnik wasn't looking as anything that makes Robotnik look weak/stupid/bad without making Snively look bad, would be something Snively would approve of.

Don't forget the metal things on the feet to give the clanking sound when walking there was a bit more to that disguise.

Still a disguise like that which wouldn't fool a person but looks like enough of a robot could fool a robot due to roboticized victims kind of look like that.

When you had the bush with a swatbot head, that confused the swatbots as they didn't instantly fire upon you, but it still drew attention as they spent time trying to figure out what you were and their bosses would have been smart enough to realize what was going on, in the scene you describe there were no 'brain bots' (i.e. bosses) present to tell the grunts what to do.

Also SatAM didn't have a good-guys-always-win as there are several times when the FF loose as much as they gain, often at the same time. Think Game Guy, yes they defeat Robotnik, but they lost Guy to the void. Other times, they lost Cat or some nameless FF. Or they loose an island they couldn't save from collapsing beneath the water. (environmental damage.)

Yes outright losses by the good guys were rare, but they didn't always just win, often it ended up as sort of a 'sacrificial trade'.

LOL!  Chris Farley was hilarious!  XD

Waiting on Sam to go ahead and pose the Chris Farley fun before I spill the SWATbot/Ra pose. I want Sam to pull this off since otherwise, Ra's attention will be drawn to the attempted jailbreak Nighteyes is about to start thanks to Katy.

Bah, I was gonna make a joke about Ra, but can you believe after scouring the intarweb for nearly an hour, I still can't find a single RaRa Army logo?

My photoshop skizzles go unused for yet another day v_v

  I like Mittens's plan,  It's bionic commando/action movie approved.
  On a side note, I've lost track of what Joe has going for him that nobody else does.

The only thing I remember you doing is jumping during the earthquake attack and I think taking out a SWATBot while wanting me to start with the violence.

Due to a family crisis, my brother (aka Mittens) and my mom have left to go to the west coast to help my other brother out. I'll post if I can get the time to, but don't expect anything from Mittens for at least a week.

I'd like to bring in my other character, Lucky, into the story as one of the rescued prisoners, but don't have the time to post his char sheet, etc.  For now he'll just have to be one of the faceless masses.

Lucky *.*

I already assigned him to ya, Mittens. Whenever you post, next to Name, you just scroll down to choose Lucky. :3 Looking forward to seeing him post even as a faceless mass weer.

The ground rumbles at the growl of some enormous monster rising from the mud...  Powerful neck muscles raise several hundred heads dozens of feet into the air.  Backlit by the rising sun, these innumerable heads sway magestically, but upon these heads are NO FACES!  OMG!  IT'S THE FACELESS MASSES WEER!

Bubly FACE!  I'm thinking of making Lucky a kid for several reasons...  1. just to make him more interesting, 2. Maverick's the only kid around, 3. i like the idea of a lucky kid gambler in an apocolyptic world...  talk about useless!  but how old?  i think he should be 12 or 13...  just old enough to wish all the girls were attracted to him but young enough that they won't be!  *niel j. bauman raises his hands to the sky*  LOL!

Lucky's app rules. Now if I can just make sure one or two of my characters actually does something to earn Lucky's "bad luck". Either way... I'm sorry for whoever screws with this kid. Though admittedly, pissing him off in an honest fashion is not a big deal... it's trying to harm him somehow that will make you pay. Hmm... problem: Far as I know, nobody on the MUCK would take advantage of Lucky. Well maybe Katy would as soon as she learned of his "power". That could be useful on missions, after all. In any case, it'll be very interesting to see how this works.

*snickers*  Either Katy's a mind reader, or Lucky thinks out loud.  ;P

Well normally thoughts are either in italics or '' not "" which is what is used for spoken text.

Ah yes... not only did the quotes fool me, but so did the colored text. I'll have to edit Katy's post.

There. Edited Katy's post. And Lucky's (All I did was italicize the thoughts). Not sure who's turn it is other than Samuel at this point.


In the meantime, I'm halfway considering starting a Starcraft RP here at RPOL. Why? See for yourselves:

http://pc.ign.com/articles/788/788627p1.html

In all seriousness, though, I am considering it. Though there are a lot of possible themes I'm considering. HOC, Starcraft, Transformers, Pokemon (No really... I'm not jabbing at you, Matthew and Joe), Faction (Seriously considering it, but dunno how many players I'd get)... suggestions for other possible themes or thoughts on the ones listed appreciated.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:33, Mon 21 May 2007.

  Well, on the SC angle while sounds interesting I'd be slightly inclined against due to A)Despite all attempts I fail hard at RTS, B)RTS theme, and as closest thing I'd be would be either a cannon fodder Marine or Vulture pilot in a 'war vs Alien pointy armies and Alien psychic armies' setting, I'd be a bit curious how myself along with other single chars would live, or make a difference.

  Hunters of Chaos I'm guessing the HOC means?  Not sure, while different in style already have a Sonic thing going.

  My reasons beyond generic 'cute thingys, aaaigh?', which I don't have as much of a prob compared to Sam with, for against the Pokemon both Tim and Sam know well by now thus letting me spare the other innocent players from several paragraphs o rantage.  Short version, solo Human vs world of Godzilla monsters in combat or other situation where they don't fear unmowed grass or just never leave town is a bit difficult to manage according to theme.

  As for TF, I'm a sucker for Giant robots.  Usually the full phrase I use is 'I'm a sucker for giant customizable robots' when explaining my like of Armored core (And I just now realized, an Armored core is Blipverts Pic) to people I know, but same general idea.  Robots good.  Even if I'm a bit hazy on any and all plot elements not held in the movie after all the time since watching the cartoons when midget height.

  On the Faction thing, I'd probably try for it if you went for it.  Though I'd be in need of some suggestions on how to manage both in technobabble and in theme the casual violencetasticness of most Darkthorne brand chars without being Evil, or mentally imbalanced more than I already act.  While also not being overboard on the potential firepower despite being able to deal vs fancy stuff.  Not everything one would run up against is an evil genetics expert with their own personal force field via shoulder bone...thingys?  Or pointing a planet destroying space station at you.

  As for other ideas, the whole 'must walk dog then collapse unconscious' thing is assuring I draw a blank at the moment.  May think of something later though.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:59, Mon 28 May 2007.

Good input. Thanks. Of course, thanks to your input, I am reminded that I had this discussion (Starcraft RP) with Sam before and he said the theme didn't have enough character involvement to allow for a good RP setting. So no problem. SC is a good game, but not the best of RP settings.

Pokemon I've RPed before, so I know how to make it work just fine. I've played it from every angle: As a pokemon, as a trainer who HAS pokemon, as a normal human without any pokemon, and as a pokemorph (Half pokemon / half human). I made every one of those angles work fine. Though I'm speaking only for myself... I was just about the only person I've seen who RPed as a human who had no pokmemon. I may or may not make one myself, however, depending. We'll see how things go.

Transformers: You are speaking things that earn you brownie points with Tim. Though I am unsure wether I want to go with Generation 1, Cybercore, a rewrite of Cybercore, or base it off the upcoming movie. I guess I'll see how others feel about a TF place in general first.

Faction I'd love to see happen. And I thank you greatly for your support. I'd probabley play it differently and allow for cartoony versions of the "R" rating, thus Joe could be just as violently nuts as ever. Unfortunately, I don't know how many people I can get interested in a "Star Trek meets Sonic the Hedgehog" sort of theme. Anyway... thanks again for your input, Joe.

  Well, I know I'd give any on that listing beyond the Pokemon gig a try if you got around to making em.  Hey, even I can be biased against something okay?  And from the little bits of info I heard from you in a case with Liberty you started able to defend yourself till you got that retconned by the staff because people didn't like the defenseless standard being hurt.

  On TF as I'm forgetting sortakinda everything, I'd say Cybercore or some variant for the 'personal version means less shoehorning things to fit cannon' effect.  Though I foresee a majority of 'points', either in actual spendage or keeping totals balanced wise on an Darkthorne TF being dedicated to the 11 courage.  The few games I've been involved in with things similar to the Tech specs or any such thing showing that the Darkthorne brain costs more than being able to make nukes and living through a ground zero blast with them.

  No need for cartoony R rated, I was more talking along the lines of how there are always times everywhere when you need excessive firepower to live and nothing but yourself to rely on.  And the less than survival assuring issues I have in feeling being able to make with this kind of survival assurance is excessive the rest of the time.  "I built a phase disruption cannon to blow up that Godzilla monster.  It's been in the closet the past few months collecting dust next to the Monomolecular field blade, the Space assault armor, and the Subterranean exploration and combat vehicle, that haven't been used since why I made em.  It's a big closet.  I've been using this 2x4 lately."

Well... to get caught up or just because you know you want to watch a nostalgic cartoon about giant robots, here is NEARLY the entire series of the oldschool Transformers. Thankfully, the G.I.Joe crossover where Cobra Commander nearly kicks Metroplex's butt is there in the list ("Only Human" season 3). And pretty much any important episodes are there. Enjoy!

http://www.tv-links.co.uk/show.do/2/2505

On other notes, however, I think I will be thinking hard on the whole "What theme should I choose for the new forum" question. Seems it's at least been boiled down to 2 choices. Transformers, we at least know Sam would be willing and able to join us. Faction, he's always been "no thanks" about due to lack of familiarity (Which, ironically, means he'll probabley never get familiar. And further irony is that I would be changing the plot a lot for the RP version anyway.) But how everyone else feels is still mysterious.

Would you be willing to help me construct such an RP forum, be it Transformers or Faction? Heh... and I feel like this conversation's only including you and I, Joe. Clearly, despite seeing the OOC has been posted on, people other than you have yet to comment. For all I know, Hart, Kyton, Nighteyes and Mittens would sooner RP an HOC theme. But I'll never know.

Heh, to be honest, I'm having enough trouble keeping up with this RP to get involved with any others on here ;) But I think it's safe to say that I find the idea of a Faction RP very interesting, since I think you've got a neat universe developing with that.

I'm not much for Transformers or the other fandoms that you mentioned, though I don't know about HOC, so I can't pass a verdict on that :P

Regardless, if you did start up a Faction RP, I know I'd love to join it.  I think I even joined your group on DA for it.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:29, Mon 28 May 2007.

  QFT.  Ditto on everything he said.  One forum of your very own isn't enough is it?  Fine.  Pokemon's overdone.  TFs are fun to watch, wouldn't want to be one.  Sooner go with a Gundam pilot, but eh.  Faction I like.  Especially with the possibility of a re-write.  I'm thinking no FCs except maybe the leaders of the 3 factions: Dominus, Ollen, and Empress (Doug snatches Sarah from the faction universe and replaces her with Bunnhead)...  (Hmm.  Somehow I'm reminded of the 3 races in Starcraft.)

  Or...  if this is all about pleasing YOUR fetishes - which it is - make another cosmic muffin where everything goes.  Some ridiculously powerful pokemon decided to merge the multiverse.  Now you can be a TF piloted by a pokemorph who's in Dominus' pirate army on a quest for the chaos emeralds.  There.  Happy?

Samuel blinks and then just shudders.

Thanks for the input. We'll see what happens. And LOL on your last sentense, Mittens. TENS!

Wanted to check with everyone before Lucky's "ability" takes effect. I'm thinking that due to his life being saved and the fact everyone is looking to be doomed anyway, we get some kind of serious luck. And I already know what thanks to Lucky's player. If you all are game, then I'll use the Ace up Lucky's sleeve.

Basically, Robotnik calls for backup in the Middletown area due to "the Priority One Hedgehog" being near enough to the area. We won't meet Sonic this time, but it is just about the only reason the small army would suddenly stop the chase. Ra will assuredly send a squad of SWATbots after us anyway, but at least the number of them will not only be greatly reduced, the giant robot dragon won't be after us either. And let's face it... a squad of SWATbots vs our team in the woods won't stand much of a chance.

  Sounds fine, but I wouldn't put too much thought into how Princess Bunnhead escaped somehow.  If SatAm had to be all that logical, all Robotnick would have to do would be flick a cigarette at the Great Forest on a dry windy day to burn down Sonic's home.  So why doesn't he?  Because it's fiction.

Actually the most likely reason Robotnik doesn't just burn down the forest is that would kill the freedom fighters and he wants them roboticized (with the occasional exception of sometimes trying to kill Sonic when he's frustrated) and he can't robotize a corpse. After all if he kills them outright, he would make Martyrs out of them, if he roboticizes them they become just another victim.

  There was a Sonic story that suggested another reason - Robotnick is on another level of evil.  Sonic went to a future where Robotnick had taken total control.  Two furries were complaining to each other about how bad things were.  One says to the other, "Well at least it's not raining."  Sure enough, Robotnick activated his rain machine!  I think he's a total sadist and is more interested in making people suffer than killing.

I'd believe that, and I'd laugh at that situation and then try to take advantage of it.
After it started raining I'd say, 'Well at least it's not snowing,' and then when it starts to snow... I'd start a snowball fight, or build an igloo, or make a snowman.

When life gives you lemons, make lemonaid.

 On takin a look at the latest listing, I have to say I don't care if it whitens teeth and freshens breath (despite being red) that just ain't sanitary.

If you could, Joe, clarify? What specifically? The topic on Robotnik being evil or the topic of Lucky's luck?

I think he's referring to the part in the latest post in the character introduction thread where 'Timothius' blood can cure illness and stuff' given that nano tech capable of doing that is off limits as is magic, and it is rather disturbing to pour vials of blood on people. Why not just have it be a serum that Timothy can make as a doctor, which could use purified/refined components from his blood in it (Let's assume Timothy has that Universal blood type (O I think, but I could be wrong in its classification) so his antibodies and stuff won't be rejected by others.) but the end product itself wouldn't be blood and wouldn't be disturbing to people. This occurs to a limited degree in real life as specialist that work at making antitoxin for snake bites (for example) often end up building up such an immunity to snake bites themselves that their blood can be used as an anti-venom, once it is processed to remove anything that would be rejected by someone else's blood-type.

Ah... OK. Yeah. Good points all. I think I'll just remove the healing blood thing since he's already got plenty of stuff listed and he's a doc, so he doesn't neccessarily need it.

Please note, I have edited the rules. To save you all from re-reading them all, I will tell you where to look.

Rule 04, Section C. Added Sections D and E.

Rule 06: Added a little blurb that points the reader to Rule 4 section E.

Also, I added to the Race section. There is now a new Rare race called "Winged Mobian" as described in Rule 04 Section D. As you know, the Race thread has abilities listed that go along with whatever race you pick. In addition to getting the "Rare" status regardless of how common the race is you put wings on, you also get the "Weak Bones" ability to balance out the fact they can fly (And to make it make sense).

Granted, I did this to have Timothius. But I'm relatively sure that some others might want a winged mobian in the future. Sam's already expressed some interest. Feel free to give your thoughts on the changes.

  In regards to the race traits thing.  Does this mean no snack cakes for Joe?

As usual, you discover things nobody would think about. It doesn't mean Joe can't have snack cakes. Just means that if he decided to go on a week-long vegitarian diet, he'd lose eyesight or die. Really the point is to make sure people are willing to take on the role of their character... ALL of their character. *Somewhat spawned from the whole vegan thing in Cosmic Muffin*

Actually, it would probably take months for someone to get dangerously sick that way, although after a week they might feel weak and anemic as their body isn't getting the nutrients they need, but they won't start or go blind in a week. Malnutrition and starvation don't set on that fast your thinking of dehydration.

Malnutrition probabley would take slower for humans, but this is an extreme case. Humans can handle malnutrition better than herbivors or carnivors. I've heard you can go without hydration for as long as 3 days before you die. Without food at all (Only water) for 9-10 days before you wither into uselessness and quickly spiral towards death. But in a cat's case, I read up on it. Some vegan had a pet cat and tried feeding it veggies only. The cat started walking with a limp within a week. But technicalities aside, I was only pointing out that it's nowhere NEAR as extreme as Joe was suggesting.

On a completely different note, I'm going to post something on the TP thread and I'd like everyone's input.

Actually dehydration depends on several factors but the longest for humans is 3 to 4 days (depends on the individual), but if your in a desert without water you'll die in one day due to how fast the human body looses water in a hot desert.

Hart did you just say you've led Blipvert and SWATBots to Channelwood or am I missreading your post. Besides wouldn't Emerald have intercepted your group and led you to the ambush point? Or should I just not try reading things when I'm half asleep...

Well, I was trying to figure at what point Hart would reach Channelwood, since a bit of time has passed.  I was waiting for the proper time to say that Hart and the group were reaching Channelwood, and thought that Micheal's post was cue enough.  As for the Blipvert thing, I wasn't sure if his group was tailing Hart or a part of the group further back.

Needless to say, I'm a bit confused on where everyone is and where we're all supposed to be O_o Does my post work, or should I edit it in a way that gives time for the Channelwood Freedom Fighters to reach us a fair amount of a ways before we come into the vicinity of the ground level?j  Should I entirely remove the part about Blipvert's group not being noticed by Hart and just let the issue lay until the FFs set up their pit traps?

Considering that a lot is really happening at this point, I'm open to any suggestion or direction for editing.  Sorry if I was confusing.

Hart fails to notice that Blipvert or the SWATbots have followed their group into the woods.

Sam: still trying to figure out Hart's post have you figured it out?

Tim: I'm thinking that since Hart had a head start, Blipvert is a bit farther behind than Hart's player is thinking. So while Hart is leading some prisoners, others are back way behind with the likes of Mittens and Shelly. Your thoughts?

Sam: that makes more sense since if robots were that close Channelwood's boarder guards would have alerted channelwood and all hell would be breaking loose to insure channelwood isn't discovered


The solution? Just fix your pose to show that Blipvert didn't follow you to Channelwood just yet. He's back behind, following the other slaves that were not following you. Could be this simple:

Hart fails to notice that Blipvert or the SWATbots have followed the other prisoners that were trailing behind.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:46, Thu 07 June 2007.

The post should look a bit better now ;) Thanks for the input and advice.

Great! Thanks!

I wonder when Katy and Shelly will post...

  A question thats been stuck in my brain and not leaving me alone.  Is Samus really the last resort of Brain slaying violence?

  Those who have owned giant brains in the face as their main boss or end boss, who are not Samus that I can think of offhand.

  Cyborg Justice: Genesis, Unit #127 beat the hell out of the the full screen laser shooting Maniacal brain with his bare hands (or bare lobster claw and mace hand, etc. but no ranged gear)

  Section z : NES, Captain Commando (guy in space flight suit, not the usual one you'd think of.), Navigates maze like side scroller planet, (which can theoretically keep going for infinity unless you make a correct hidden turn on the way) Shot up L brain

  Star fox 64: N64, Fox shot up Andros's giant brain form in a certain difficulty.

  System shock 2:  In the body of the many, Employee #deargodcomplexserialnumber Killed the hell out of 'The Many''s Giant brain.  Then went on to blow up the cyberspace representation of an AI brain, SHODAN

  X-zone: Super nintendo.  Superscope game, you blow up the bio-computer X-tra.  Which is a giant brain inside the computer housing, which as its final attack busts out and bite you in the face with its organic brain bits. (that also have teeth)

  UFO Defense (X-com 1): PC, The X-com soldiers blow the hell up out of the big brain on Cydonia base.

  Neo Contra: ps2,  Red Falcon happens to be a giant brain today.

  Doom 1: PC,  Doom guy, blows up the Spider Mastermind.

  Any other Giant brain end boss/Main boss's You can think of that get blown up by people not Samus?

Rocket Knight Adventures for Sega Genesis.  Final boss is a giant flying cyborg pig brain / computer thing.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:47, Sat 23 June 2007.

Heh, please just tell me your not going to ask me to make you armor like the Rocket Knight's since you had to ditch your old armor to carry Shelly.

Mittens with a rocket strapped to her back... sounds like something out of a Wile E. Coyote cartoon.  I dunno Sam, doesn't that idea sound at least kinda tempting? ;)

I appologise for how slow I've been. Believe me... if I could respond more, I would. I'm going to be busy for the next two weeks and then I should be good to go. Keep me to it, guys! And of course, if I can, I will still try to sneak in a post between now and then.

  S'alright, gives me a chance to be lazy.

Well real life is important.
Hope things go well.

LOL!  XD

Why do I now have the feeling Mittens is going to request rocket propelled armor that will work underwater...

I'm curious, who here has seen the new Transformers movie?

And who has already heard/read online that they are already going to make a Transformers 2. The producers decided this before Transformers was released due to how well the movie turned out, the only question was whether or not the movie would make enough money to make Transformers 3, 4, and 5... which I think it will.

  Saw it a couple hours before my brothers and his pals did.  Lost count of the explosions. Only detail I told em beyond that was 'evil wears a mustache'.   He later filled me in on the sequel situation.

Loved it!  Looking forward to the sequel!  ^.^

Didn't 100% know about any sequal, but you can know that if Mittens saw it, I did. :) I liked it. It met my expectations. But it makes me wonder how the sequals will turn out.

My guess is that the sequel will have the same awesome CGI effects but even more refined. I will say I loved Soundwave... he was so tiny and amusing compared to all the other transformers but man he was nasty, but also excellent comic relief at the same time, when my mother saw it she wanted a 'nonviolent version'.

I believe that was actually Frenzy. After all... if it WAS Soundwave, he sure was nothing like Soundwave in the least except for turning into a stereo.

Actually, I just looked it up, he was originally going to be SOundwave, but as things progressed he morphed into a personality too different from Soundwave, and they decided to make him into Frenzy. They also were originally going to use Arcee instead of Ironhide, but they didn't due to lack of time that would be required to explain why a robotic race would need 'females'. She may end up in a following Transformer movie though, as Soundwave might.

Hart, are you at the ambush site or in Channelwood as they are two different locations so dealing with both the 'argument' and with Shelly in the same pose is kind of difficult.

Heh, good question. I'm really having a tough time trying to figure out the layout of where everyone is right now. I assumed that we were all pretty close together since we were all doing a stand off of sorts.  What exactly is the layout of the area?
I also think I may have made the mistake of assuming that Shelly and Mittens weren't far from the ambush point.  I'll read through the posts again to make sure and edit mine accordingly.  Sorry about that.

EDIT: The post's been fixed.  I forgot about Mittens collapsing in Channelwood upon bringing Shelly there.  Thanks for the catch Sam
This message was last edited by the player at 13:54, Wed 11 July 2007.

Don't feel too bad. Sam caught me making the same mistake. I too had forgotten about Mittens collapsing there. :) All's well.

Everyone makes such mistakes from time to time, I've mistaken what's been 'thought' for what been said a few times myself which is a very similar mistake. (And just as easy to fix.)

Don't worry ;) I'm not that upset about making the mistake, just more miffed about not catching a detail like that.  I'm just happy that it wasn't something major that required me to do a major rewrite instead of a quick fix.

Heh.

Looks to me like chapter two is coming to a close and we can begin chapter three soon:  "The Rise of The Cat People!"  =^.^=

Cat people run... run like the wind...

They better run, after all people say 'Curiosity killed the Cat'.... but actually it was ignorance, curiosity just got the blame.

reference to "cat people" video.  very funny.
http://www.superdeluxe.com/sd/...74207D913370EB80B1B7

and now for something completely different!

i got a kick out of this - "Hitler gets banned"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYvZnTFpip0

kinda funny - "i wish i was a lesbian"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptC9N9YJ24Y

the drummer is my fave - zelda music video "princes of the universe"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtmQA1c7nxw

anyone remember mario paint? here's 3 songs written in mario paint. genius!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDWSeFvIP5s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IRLA6mGfAQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOTjchZUhH4

The rise of the what-now? O_o I wonder if they all act like Mittens does...

Thanks for the links ;) That Hitler one had me laughing for a good five minutes or so.

I like Travis' character sheet!  ^.^  rrRRRRIInteresting!  (Quote from Jimmy Neutron)

Hopefully he will be interesting.  I did something like him before, but he embraced the doctor side more then the warrior side, and he was a overlander.  This time I am going more warrior side, with a little stinker. *^^*

  Good old broken staff.  Not only does it have some fancy moves along with the normal staff stuff, but more importantly it neatly folds into a size that will fit in the overhead storage compartment.
  And Hokuto shinken works on everything... Ohhh, you mean more realistic pressure points martial arts methods.  Not head asplosion causing kind.

*laughs* Well, I can only do the sort of stuff Tim will let me get away with.  I do not think exploding heads from a simple touch is on that list. His are much more complicated, and are good for kills that puzzle everyone on just how he died. ^^

Glad to see the new character coming Travis ;) I don't think there are any skunks, so it'll definitely be a change to the roster.  The monk idea and the weapon choice are pretty cool as well.  Maybe you'll be the first to fight in a duel against another physical character rather than just 'bots, since your character seems like they'd really shine in a situation like that :)

  My inclinations to try and have one's hard earned skills be worth anything in a serious fight without resorting to esoteric martial arts or simmilar is probably one of my less practical issues.  As nobody takes you seriously without them.
  Though on the plus side, I'm getting the feeling my ability to be overlooked when stating that I'm going to kill someone along with the details of how this will be gone about is gonna follow me here.  Now if I can just harness this interesting every game ever situation, then I can calmly explain to my enemies how I intend to slay them, do so while they are mysteriously not noticing my existence, and go about my business as nobody connects the dead body with me.

  This plan will likely hinge on timing it when Sam makes a valid if tactless statement, and take action while everyone is obsessing over his poor 'overlander' manners.  Again.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:14, Mon 23 July 2007.

I have lost track of the number of times you pulled that off.

You threaten and explain how you intend to kill someone in a game, it goes unnoticed while I tell someone's character to get lost before they get hurt and a half a dozen other characters jump on my case.

I'm open to ideas on what should occur in chapter 3. As I told Hart in a PM, I was going to have at least half of the chapter devoted to the AFF in that we haven't even TOUCHED Urser yet. So far, all the missions have been to Middletown. But outside of that fact, I'm unsure what I want to do specifically in chapter 3, so all ideas are welcome. Perhaps we could start doing the "Feature a character" thing starting with 3? Anyway... I'll be waiting for your ideas.

And yes... Matt/Joe will forever be the ignored scenery of death. It's like Mortal Kombatants ignoring the fact there is a pit of spikes below them and then when they are uppercutting into said pit, it's too late.

if you're wanting to fast forward to aquatic action you'll have to say something like "they went back and got several sets of scuba gear somehow."

chapter 3 title: "bettah down where it's wettah!  undah da sea!"

personally, i was kinda looking for more introduction of the new characters and...  recovering of lost armor.  :p

chapter 3 title: "barney makes new friends"

on the other hand...  who needs a snazzy title to gete started anyway?  just call it chapter 3 and name it later.  >.>

Can't rename thread titles.

  I was a bit curious on what chaos is like in the Urser area (well, beyond potentially all underwater).  Though admittedly when only one non NPC can casually deal with personal underwater travel I think the bias towards an oxygen filled environment so far isn't so shocking.
  As for the focus thing, still think it could work out.  But also think somehow it should go alongside the plot as opposed to being the end all so in case of massive oops wont derail the situation.  Such as 'oops they blew them self up' or in order to more easily keep other players going if the focused on char has net issues or something.
  And with the not as large as it looked before set of villain chars, considering the 'hassled smart swat' again.

  "Okay, so I've got a workforce with the combined intelligence of a microwave oven.  The remaining population making my job difficult.  And my various bosses are all trying to sneakily backstab each other... Though my job will be the same regardless so thats not so... Do yo mind? I don't need gauss gun needles and anvils being bounced off the side of my head while I'm reviewing the problems I've already got to deal with.  Though I guess I could say their ricocheting and hitting someone else I did on purpose... Damn my head is silly shaped."

Heh. I still say your smart swat idea rocks. Something I should point out about Urser: While the kingdom itself is under water, inside the kingdom is more like vennice or something. Lots of water channels, but mostly an air pocket. The seabears are not complete fish, having to have water just to breathe. So a mission inside Urser, while it would be handy to be able to swim, can be doable by the not-so-good-at-swimming types as well since all they'd have to do is swim to the kingdom itself. Even then, I've pondered a secret passage that Shelly has that can take you all there mostly by foot. So Urser missions won't be a huge problem for the non-water types. Though if you have a phobia of large bodies of water, then... stay home.

And yeah... I'm liking the idea of "Featured Character Chapter" being more like having a character featured alongside an actual main plot. Lots of cartoons and shows generically have that feature of 2 plots going on at once.

EDIT: On a side note, Those in Channelwood are kind of waiting on Michael's pose. And I figure the clean-up crew can clean up in the background while Shelly's cared for. Then we can wrap up this chapter and move on to the next one. Unless you all want me to do that right now and say Shelly is just finishing rehab in Aquarius.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:25, Wed 25 July 2007.

  Either way works for me really.

  I hope people weren't waiting on Joe to use tact.

If it's all the same to everyone, I'm stopping chapter 2 now and starting chapter 3 soon.

Works for me.

Um what is chapter 3 going to be about?
This message was last edited by the player at 21:29, Tue 07 Aug 2007.

  I'll make a vauge assumption it involves trying to determine if certain people are friends or foes.  Can't imagine why.
  In other news, Joe is snack cake approved as I just found out Coyote's are omnivores.  They just seem to prefer road runner.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:55, Fri 10 Aug 2007.

  Two new chars, both coincidently beginning with the letter K according to the cast listing.  Welcome aboard.

  The quiet kids reaction seems to be, well, being quiet.  You'd think Joe would have seen this coming.

LOL. I was just waiting for others to pose. But I suppose I can have Mav pose a reaction to Joe. :)

I'm wondering how far Travis could go into the forest before coming across any guards or lookouts. No real point in waiting for someone to react to my presence if I'm not near anyone. *^^*

I'll pose an NPC for you soon.

Mittens, Aquarius is the hidden village your currently at, Urser or whatever it's spelled is Robotnik's underwater base. Drawing robotnik's goons to Aquarius would be a very bad and suicidal move as extra care is taken to keep robotnik from learning the location of Aquarius. I assume you meant cause a ruckus at Urser not Aquarius. You might want to edit your post to reflect that if it is indeed what you meant.

Your lucky Samuel didn't ICly hear you or he'd be one of the first to yell at you about the 'idea' of bringing robotnik's minions to/near Aquarius for any reason.

heh... if i could get confused which is wet-base and which is wet-conquered-city, then so could Mitts.  ;P  But thanks for clearing that up!  ^.^

1000th post... nice.

It really is, Sam. To break 1k makes this forum officially what I like to call "active". ;) I'm very glad I thought to put this MUCK to forum. It's working out nicely. There is no need to hope the planets align for an RP to happen since we all have our own schedules, but this forum format allows any schedule. The 1000th post is a testament to that fact. That and we're already on Chapter 3. I also find it interesting how different this is at the same time since, being a forum, I've found it a reflex to go with chapters rather than one ongoing RP. But it makes sense, doesn't it? Again, if anyone has an idea for an RP that features their own character, send me notes and we can work something out for the future. I'm excited about it. Anyways, gotta go! *Heads out the door to go to restaurant*

  Also of note, its 1000 posts that are mostly IC, as we've only just hit the 270's in the OOC thread.
  The chapters bit is working nicely.  Also makes searchin for details within a set of stuff easier (and I think somewhere in the notes after a thread hits a certain insane size, not allowed to hit 'view all' anymore and such).
  And I guess I sent details about a chars involvement in a technical sense.  So far as them entering existence is involvement, heh.  Though at the moment there also isn't a huge rush/need to deal with that.
This message was last edited by the player at 09:58, Thu 23 Aug 2007.

Oh! Meant to mention something earlier. For future reference, to those of you who don't know, apparently, I can see any "private" post that is on the forum itself. So if you want to keep a game detail secret from me, be sure to send each other a private message. Private to each other on the RP thread is fine, just be warned that I can see it. So it's probably best for things you might want to tell me or don't care if I see.

Sorry, Joe, that means I saw your note to Sam earlier. :\ But if it makes you feel better, it barely made sense as usual. So when I saw the part about "Timothius can't see this, no worries", I decided to leave it at that and now I don't even remember what it was.

I was wondering if you were going to mention that, Timothius.

If anyone is wondering, yes GMs can vew all 'private messages' in all the public threads in the game. They can also view all the Private message threads as well but those they'd have to specifically hunt for if they wanted to read them. I know this as in a game where I have been a GM when reading my PMs if I scroll down I could see other people's PM threads, not that I'd bother to read them, but it was always strange to know that a GM could if they wanted to. I suspect this is a feature to let GMs insure that no metagaming is going on behind closed doors, and if they discover it they can handle the situation accordingly. After all if Player A secretly gives Player B info on the solution to a puzzle, it could upset the balance of the game, especially in games similar to Paranoia where new information can change the direction of the game.

It is fortunate that Joe is as cryptic as always, for while Timothius may not have understood the message, I did.

What game are you GMing, Sam?

I'm a co-GM for link to "Mobile Suit Gundam SEED: Angel Strike" as I focus on the technical aspects of the game thus freeing up the game's owner to focus on the storyline.

Apologies for taking infinity years and a day to post, but... on top of life being hectic, I've been waiting for Hart to post. I'm starting to wonder what happened to him. I've pretty well figured Nighteyes is gone by all accounts. But Hart? I wonder what's up on his end. :\ You're missed, Hart! Come back!

I'm here, I'm just swamped by a lot of stuff ^_^;;
My classes lately have been really heavy, so I've had to learn how to manage my online time in a totally different way.  I've been falling behind in a lot of stuff.
I'm trying to get things under control for now, so I should be posting at a more regular rate.  Thanks for your patience all :)

Katy said that Ra is about 30 feet tall, 50 feet long not including his tail... that makes Ra far more massive (or so) than a full grown mobian dragon which is only a bit bigger than Dulcy is. So is Katy exaggerating or is Ra really so big that he can't fit indoors except in aircraft hangars. I always thought he was closer to the size of a mobian dragon which seems to be around 10 or so feet tall when she stands up and around 15 ft or so long including the tail. At 30ft tall 50ft long Ra is a lot larger than hovercraft and is large enough to have problems moving around in an urban environment or in a forest.

Katy isn't the best estimater, but she isn't exaggerating. I had meant for Ra to be a *giant* dragon of "Oh I just crapped my pants" proportions. And yes... he does have trouble moving about in an urban setting, but we were in a more open area (Otherwise, he'd have to fly... which he eventually did). And yes... he can't fit in a forest either. Which is only part of why he didn't follow. I'll have to write down his full bio sheet for purposes of RP. Sorry I didn't make his size clearer in the past!

Heh that makes Ra around the same size as the shuttle Samuel is in the process of  repairing.

Added some stuff to the "Race" thread. Now the rarity of each race is also listed next to the race name in the section that displays their abilities. Also, added some new abilities:

Large - This character is 5'4" or taller. Being that much bigger than most races gives this character advantages such as running faster and being about twice as strong as the average mobian. If this character has the "Very Strong" ability, then this ability adds to it, making the character even stronger.

Truth - This character can not lie. Players caught lying with this character will lose their character. Also, this character can sense when someone is lying or telling the truth.

Prehensile Tail - This character can hold things with his or her tail as though it were the same strength as one of their legs and with the dexterity of a hand.

Play Dead - This character can play dead so well that even tickling them won't do a thing. Listening for breathe will yield no results as they can hold their breathe during this state.

And finally, I added Woodchuck as a race after learning that's what species Rosie is.
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:23, Wed 26 Sept 2007.

Hillarious!

"Fight for Kisses!"

http://www.ffk-wilkinson.com/

Mittens and I recently watched "Blast to the Past" and "Dulcy", so I added an optional ability to dragons accordingly:

Wind Breath - This character can blow so hard, they are capable of making aircraft slam into each other.

And yes... watch the link Mittens gave. It's funny.

  You know me and Alts.  Doesn't really happen.  Though in this case it wasn't for lack of attempt, its just that there's absolutely no focus on crazy robot towns at the moment, so no real rush for Smartypants Swat app processing.

  Though it has been almost two months now, heh.
This message was last edited by the player at 09:39, Sat 06 Oct 2007.

Hey everyone... should I go ahead and make this RPG open to the public? I was thinking since this chapter is more internal as apposed to fighting badguys, we could wait for next chapter, but I still wanted to know how you all felt about the idea.

It's up to you, but I do recommend that if/when the game goes public, screen players to avoid the people who really shouldn't be in the game. Such as people who just want to try and have a 'canonical clone/knockoff', or the people who would be happier in a DBZ game, etc....

Since, sadly, the two Gundam RPs died completely, I may re-focus my attention on my Faction forum soon here. There's a chance I'll be using Alternity's set of rules. And there's a chance I'll just make my own. Either way, anyone who is interested in space theme with absolutely any race supported (Though certain types recommended), consider yourself informed of possible upcoming RP there. I am busy, but I'll try to work on it s'more this week.

I hope that doesn't mean you'd be neglecting this forum, but instead refocusing on this forum and the Faction one.

I check this forum just about every day and don't see me neglecting it for a looong time. Even the family crisis going on in my life didn't stop me! Mwahahaha! Long live Sonic!

Then I guess you'll enjoy knowing that Sonic is in the latest Super Smash Bros to be released... there is already a video of Sonic beating the crud out of Link.

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/15372

  I'm at a bit of indecision regarding Faction. (lets hear it for game search by GM, never mind title search would have worked)  Was considering a Human but then saw the Jaguar listing was the old one I gave you years back.

  The choice will likely come down to how often I'd have to duck or mash my face against door frames in the setting...  Or was it only certain people who got to play non midget humans in that theme?...  Right, there goes the door frame choice maker for species.  While my equipment ideas are never as elaborate (and listed item by tiny item in impressive/scares me detail) as Sam's, would want some input on if what I toss out there is too much.  The old Faction Edition Darkthorne combat armor might be excessive for instance.

  As for opening up this place, my thoughts are about the same as Sam's in this case.

Faction seems like an interesting idea to me, purely because it seems like Timothius has put a lot of himself behind it.  It'll be neat to see what the speicifics of his universe are and how we players can help to build that.  I might make up an application once more information is given about the storyline ;)

As for making this RP open, it might be great for expanding the number of players and development in the game, but it also might cause for a fasting pacing of story than most folks here are used to.  Posting in this game seems fairly relaxed, and it seems like you all know each other and know how to work with one another.  Making it totally open to the public might take away a significant amount of that element.  Then again, that newness could be exactly what you're looking for :)

Thanks, Hart! And yeah... Joe and I discussed Faction last night and what it could entail. We even did a test RP. I just need to get off my lazy butt and re-work a lot of things.

...also, I think I'm still waiting for you to pose, Hart. :)

Sorry about that Timothius ;) I was waiting for you to react to Mittens in case you were planning to change our plans from a meet and greet to a mission or something.  Heh, I really didn't know where the whole "meeting new folks" angle was going to go.

Sorry I haven't posted in almost a week. Have a friend over who's been here that whole time and it will prolly be a couple more days before I post. :\

  S'alright, hope thats turning out alright for yah.

  Suuuure it might be stereotyping.  But if Mei Ling can come even close to Miss. Piggy level carnage we're set for life.

Much thanks to Hart for pointing out that anyone who would be new to our setting would have no clue where anything is. So I posted a new "Notice" topic called "Maps" that shows what the rest of us already know both for Hart's sake and the sakes of any new players who may come by (Since I was talking about going public in Chapter 4).

The map for Aquarius is slightly out of date with a room listed for varun who isn't in the game, and no moonpool along with no hangar where Samuel's shuttle is stashed, although I wouldn't be surprised if there are multiple multipurpose rooms which can function as hangar bays for 'small' submarines/submersibles and storage rooms for supplies. Then again there is nothing that states that Aquarius is one level as it could easily be 2 or 3 levels built into the floor of the lake.

Granted, the Channelwood ones are out of date also as there is no Raikoo, Rick, or Razorwind anymore either. I'll worry about making the maps a bit more up to date at a later time. I need to do other things, especially preparing for Christmas. But fear not, Sam... I am pretty sure I have an idea where to put the hangar. And if you had read the description of Aquarius, you'd have seen that I explained where the moonpools were. But still... I *did* forget about the hangar. Thanks for pointing that out.

Regardless of whether or not the maps are out of date, I think it goes without saying that these maps a big help to those of us not in the know ;) As they say, some is better than none.  It'll definitely help folks out when and if we make this RP open to the public, like we were talking about eariler.
Thanks a lot for putting up that section.  Now all I've gotta do is imagine where Hart and the others' rooms are and what they look like ;)

I have a move coming up at the end of the month, which is taking a lot of my attention.  I think I will let Travis walk out of the picture at this point, at least until things settle down in RL. I will make one last post, since it seems people have been waiting for it.

Thanks, Travis. And thanks for the heads up! I'll give you a synopsis if you need it when you are back from RL distractions. :) Take care and don't over stress, OK?

  Good luck with that.  Considering how crazy I recall moving when it was only to the house next door was, as little hassle during as possible would be good.

  And it was less you, more Maverick on my end the wait was for.  Though I suppose I could toss together something regardless.

Thanks for giving us the heads up on what is going on. I hope everything goes well with your move.

Oops! I guess I haven't posed Mav! *goes to post*
Posted. Now just waiting on Mittens to post a reply to Shelly before I reply to Hart. :)
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  Well, you DO have like 80 chars to keep track of.  I shall respond later tomorrow (today.)  For now, its unconscious time.

He's right, you know.  I have no idea how you keep track of everyone you're in control of :P I mean, sometimes *I* forget all the characters you use until you make a new post with one of 'em.

I think he either has a big list of characters, or a cheat sheet. Then again, when you have a pulldown menu that tells you all your character's names on the fourm, it is a bit easier.  Try to picture how many names and passwords he needs to remember for the Struggle for Hope muck. He has a lot of characters there, and its still not  all of them. :)

Actually you only need one name/password for all the characters that belong to one player as the login to rpol is the player's name/password and that opens access for that player to all of the games the player is in and all the characters in those games.

Hey guys. Just a heads up: I got a note from someone on DA who wants to join (Heh... seems to be where all the outside players are coming from! And just because I posted a pic of SFH Katy on my gallery). He's not that great at english, but he's understandable. Just writes somewhat weird (You might see what I mean). He seems like a friendly guy and is excited about joining. I was only hesitant because of his lack of english skill, but this place isn't just mine. It's yours too. So let me know what you think about a new guy joining who isn't too good with english, but understandable and eager. I sent him a note telling him he has to apply for a common (He apped for a human right off) and to please be more detailed with his background, personality and maybe even abilities. We'll see what happens, but I figured a heads up and hearing what you guys' feelings on the matter would be was in order.

Heh, DA is a ripe place for folks to join from because they can see the fruits of this RP like drawings and brain storming.  I think I joined up after seeing you post a journal about this RP. Considering that it's a site full of creative people, a response of interest is somewhat expected ;)

As for the question of someone joining who's not the best at english, I'd say that it shouldn't be a problem so long as he can RP and work into the setting.  However, if his english is really unmanagable and he can't understand us, we should just be prepared to explain our posts or simplify them here in the OOC area.  I don't know how other folks feel about having to work around something like that, but if you think he'd do well here, then I don't see much reason to not give him a shot, at least.
Oh, and I believe I found his page on DA thanks to one of your older pieces in your gallery ;)  From the looks of things, his english isn't horrible.  He mostly just seems to have problems with punctuation.

  Well, I theoretically know English.  But that doesn't stop people from suffering incomprehension of what the heck I'm talking about at times.
  I figure may as well see what happens.  If it fails as hard as a sumo wrestler trying to get in a clown car, then we can deal with it after I guess?

what he said.  i tend 2 b lazy /w my english at times...  <.<   so yeah.  by all means.  i'm predicting one post then a mysterious disappearance.  that'll fit right in with all the other vanishing ninjas.

about the overlander thing...  here's an idea:  "rule # 213: you may have overlander at any time no strings attached... if it's a midget.  and there's no such thing as a 6' tall midget."

Good point. Snively was midget sized. Heck... in the comic, he's shorter than his step sister Hope who is only 10 years old.

Fear the Giant Midget of Doom. Um Actually in the comic, Snively was the only midget I'm aware of as all other humans were normal human/overlander height for their age, so why allow midgets but not normal humans/overlanders without the normal strings?

By the way, is Katy going to post anytime soon as Michael is waiting for Katy to post. Samuel is sort of out of the rp for the moment since he's busy in the shuttle working on the mechanics of the 'Swatbot suit' and until either someone goes to check on him or till he needs to go and get someone to analyze the two swatbot brains to figure out how a swatbot 'thinks' he'll be off on his own. Once I get around to being able to update with Michael I'll also update with Valin by having him check in on the mess hall.

Actually Samuel, there weren't many other overlanders to look to for comparison. In the cartoon, there were only Robotnik and Snively.  In the comic, I'm aware of Robotnik, Snively, and Nate Morgan, who was also a very small, albiet old man, yet still an interesting character.  The other overlanders that I know of haven't been put along the freedom fighters for size comparison, but it's safe to say that they're below average height.  In the End Game comic, there was a huge battle between Overlanders and "Mobians", and they were pretty much the same size, though the overlanders were probably a few inches taller and proportionate to their size, instead of really being "midgets."

Just some food for thought to clarify ;)

Given how Nate Morgan was always hunched over I'm not sure what his true hieght was but he may have been a midget or dwarf, although he's been dead for so long in the comic I had pretty much forgotten about him.

However everyone else from station square that was human/overlander or those who returned from space with Colin, and Hope, that left Mobius earlier were all normal human/overlander height based on how tall they are in regards to Robotnik's height. Not to mention there is plenty of reference in the issues between those other overlander/humans and either Mobians and/or Hope and how tall Hope is compared to mobians given her age. Thus most overlanders/humans are of normal height, but there are dwarf and midget overlanders but they are not the norm. It is true they aren't along side freedom fighters often but they have been shown with Rogue a bit as she has been used as a GUN agent.

One possible example of a lazy drawer causing an inconsistency doesn't mean most overlanders/humans should be short. If that was the case, Tails when/if he makes an appearance would have 10 different colors of fur at once which is quite impossible.

In any case overlanders/humans are a rare race and having a 'nonstandard version' of one shouldn't bypass the normal rules regarding a character belonging to a rare race.

I think Mittens was joking around anyway. But this brings up a point that I need to research the races a little more. I'll take my SatAM DVDs with me to work tonight and examine the heights of the races. After all, let's not forget Lazar, who also was a hunched over old man but made Sonic look like a mere child. And this Forum's theme is far more based on SatAM than on Archie. I'll get back with you guys on the heights and such.

Heh, nice examples ;) Goes to show that I haven't read the comic in a long time.  I wasn't even aware that Nate Morgan was dead, though I knew that he'd stopped appearing.  I was never sure how to take the whole station square thing, as I think the attempt to mix the games and the comics kind of screwed up a lot of previously established things.  Also, I wasn't pointing out an inconsistency in the Overlander vs. Mobians fight scene since I don't think Spaz is one to screw with proportions like that.  I'm well aware that different artists draw and color characters differently ;)

Regardless, I agree with you about having a nonstandard version of a rare race doesn't make the race any less rare or bypass any sort of rules about races in the game.  Then again, the mechanics of all that is kind of Timothius' call.

Amazingly, I'm waiting on everyone but Joe currently. Hope everyone is OK.
Just a side note, Samuel's player said he's been busy and still is, so he might take a while with his posts.
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Just copying Zero and taking a roll call. Mostly to make sure what happened to Faction doesn't happen to this place.

Wondered what happened to faction, and I'm either still here or just a figment of your imagination.

  Here as usual.

  You do know you can still recover Faction at this stage right?  Or were you just letting it slide as you haven't had use for it yet?
This message was last edited by the player at 19:29, Thu 20 Dec 2007.

Still your pose, Sam. And no, Joe... didn't realize this. I'll go recover it.

*goes and tries* ...except I dunno how. The GM Menu is gone since the place is deleted. :\ Oh well... I'll let it slide and figure out stuff on it outside of RPOL. Then, when it's all ready, post the stuff on RPOL. By then, Faction should be fully deleted.
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:23, Fri 21 Dec 2007.

Actually, Valin is still waiting for Emerald to post and Samuel is still working on that project of his in the hangar bay for his shuttle (And that will keep Samuel busy for a while unless someone comes and seeks him out), but I can post for Michael.

  As I'm not as knowledgeable in the Sonic universe as... Everyone here (been a bazilion years since I've seen any Sonic SatAM), It's only now come to mind.  The scale to make non roboticized people uncommon would mean that the living global population is what, 500?  For only a few small hidden villages and the occasional plot device society to be around, thats a few billion roboticized Mobians kept.... Where?

  Because there always sure seems to be a hell of a lot of wide open unoccupied space despite about the entire planets population still being around, if metal and zombie like.

To Sam: Go ahead and post Valin without Emmy. She doesn't have anything to do or say now that the conversation has moved over to Valin and Lucky. :)

To Joe: Yes. Lots of wide open spaces, but they always seemed to be abandoned. Pretty much, the bots live in the towns they used to live in. Just that said towns are now Robotnik's. Like Mobotropolis is now Robotropolis. So... let's just say in this theme, there's like six billion roboticized and somewhere in the hundred thousand range of non-roboticized world-wide. Although I remember in the series itself there were only 5 freedom fighter groups, I'm assuming those to be groups that were "local" to Knothole.

Also, thanks for the comment on Deviant Art! :)

Merry Christmas everyone!  \^.^/

Just a heads-up everyone. Mittens threw me a neat idea that makes more sense for the plot. Namely that the "traitor" will actually just be one or more people who Ra bugged. Rather than actual ill intention. This will make discovering the traitor near impossible since their own actions would never give them away, seeing as how none of them are actually traitors.

Don't worry, Sam, this doesn't effect your side plot at all. ;) After all... the guy you mentioned who has a side chat with Sam wouldn't have to be a traitor to the cause... I'm thinking maybe more like a traitor to the Urser crown and what Sam wouldn't know is that the guy was "promised" sovereignty over Urser. And that promise would have come from the ones in charge of Urser, thus making this chapter a subtle attack from both Urser AND Middletown.

There is a danger with 'bugged' people, any bug powerful enough to let Ra listen in would also give away the location of Channelwood and Aquarius. I also suspect the FF groups themselves would have some way to detect bugs and other tracking devices as they would have to make sure what they stole wasn't bugged with a tracker that would reveal their location as otherwise locations like Channelwood and Aquarius would have been easily compromised. However that doesn't mean it is impossible to use something, just not a 'bug' that is a small radio transmitter.


A more plausible idea is that the 'bugged' people aren't bugged with a transmitter/radio, but instead have some sort of traceable dye injected into them that can be tracked when they are in the vicinity of Middletown or Urser. Think like the tracer used in the Running Man movie, with it they knew where the 'contestants' were in the zones but not what they were saying but since the zones had cameras all over the place that wasn't a limitation. Such a 'bug' is passive so it doesn't give off any signals and if you don't know what to look for you would never know it was there. Thus those who are bugged would be detectable on raids and thus reveal that a raid is going on and where it is, which would foil raid attempts without revealing how they are being revealed.

Mittens showed me this one. Check it out!

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