Hello RPoL. So, as far as i know, there aren't many games where Dragons are a tolerated species for character creation; understandably. However, i have a few concepts in mind for Draconic characters, and i'd like to use them. What i'm asking for is pretty much this;

A Freeform game with a preferred story focus.

Said game allowing Dragons to be played as characters

Game's rating is either mature or adult. Just preference.

A posting rate of once per week/bi-weekly.

A posting minimum size of at least one paragraph. No one-liners.

A GM willing to go through the process of making a character with the player. Again, i have concepts in mind, and GM discussion will be required.


To give a little bit of what would be expected, a brief run-down of the character goes like this. The character is a Dragon with scales a mix of a blue and silver. He has a bone disease, that while somewhat fixed, still renders him physically inferior to other dragons. With this in mind, he became a mage of sorts; studying magic vigorously, and almost obsessively. He also has a bit of greed for wealth, on top of his magical greed, but doesn't have any malicious intentions. Just obsession.

The kind of magic he'd use would be based on what the game allows. This is just the concept i have in mind.

This is not the only thing i have in mind, but the other idea is in the works, too incomplete to display here yet.. What i'm planning on using isn't solidified, yet. I'll decide when the game comes around, if it does.

So, let me know what's out there, guys.

GURPS has Dragon templates in one of the six hundred supplements printed for that game. Ive played a Dragon campaign with that system before, mixing some Civilization style world-building elements to it. That  I don't have the knowledge or wherewithall to run that kind of game, but what you're looking for CAN be done.
This message was last edited by the user at 02:06, Sat 10 Dec 2016.

Freeform. I'm not looking for a system. I want a story focus, not mechanics up the wazoo, as i said. Thanks for the offer though
This message was last edited by the user at 02:36, Sat 10 Dec 2016.

Why not pathfinder? Just take a young dragon and start adding wizard levels

As I had told the other guy, I don't want to juggle game mechanics. I want to roleplay and play in a story. This is why I asked for a Free Form game, and not a pathfinder or d&d or whatever, as most of the Freeform games that I've played at least are purely writing.

Sorry for the rude tone.
This message was last edited by the user at 14:10, Mon 12 Dec 2016.

In reply to RedTeamPyro (msg # 5):

First you are talking about dragons. Getting away from rules is going to make people cringe. Based on that most won't even consider taking it. I tried running a more story less crunch version here years ago it got wacky and headache worthy quick. Which is why it died. That being said rules light I might be willing to do. Stress the might. Believe me when I say I understand your concerns about rules, but the likely hood of getting no rules on a dragon game is less likely.

Here would be the basic rules set if I ran.

Only True Dragons from D&D 3.5 edition. Gives us a base from which to start.

No God modding period. This one is iron clad. Two strike rule here.

Third if asked to redact you politely do so. I shouldn't have to invoke that one very often, but should I need to complying would be nice.

No actual stats just guidelines for the True Dragons. I.e. your Silver Drake won't be taking baths in volcanos or your Bronze spitting caustic rust. That sort of thing.

In reply to Knight_Vassal (msg # 6):

Part of why i gave the first concept of a dragon character (And the only one i listed here) that i might use a bone disease. If he's gonna be a magical-focus character, he shouldn't be able to be super duper tanky. Likewise, the second character (That i have yet to mention) won't have ranged options at all excluding a breath attack, but will be able to take a hit. I'll delve more into her later as time goes on and opportunities arise.

As for the rules, i haven't looked into 3.5 Dragons (And personally? I don't use the Metallic/Chromatic/whatnot D&D biz to declare what my dragons are and aren't) but i'll give it a shot.

No god modding is an obvious one. Dragons are just as killable as the peasant next door.

As for the redact/void/etc rule, it depends who's asking and why. if it's the GM, i might ask for a reason but aside from that no arguments (I'd imagine the GM having the courtesy to tell me why i should void an action instead of saying "Delete this"). If it's a player, similar thing. If they have a legit reason, i'll comply. But if it's a BS reason (Someone doing something insanely stupid and ends up getting killed. For example, trying to break a bone to test the mage character's durability and acting surprised when he doesn't fancy that) there might be protest.

The reason why i'm not saying "Sure thing boss" and instead making a long statement over it on that one is because i've dealt with some rather distasteful people demanding i change things for the dumbest of reasons, or no reasons at all; more often than i'm comfortable with. I do indeed have a few stories to tell, but this isn't the place for that.

As for the last rule, that's perfectly reasonable. The two characters that i'll pick between are actually a bit reasonable/not absurd as heck, in my opinion at least. One's a Dragon who had the misfortune of being born with a bone disease, so he compensates with magic that turned into a craving. The other is a simple Dragon looking to do the world some good, while getting gains herself, despite the general negative reaction to Dragons.

Also, you didn't bring it up, but i think i should. Size. Size is negotiable. If you want me to make them as small as Toothless, i can do just that.

In speaking of negotiation, as both characters are currently in the "Building" phase, should someone pick me up and allow me into a game i'm willing to discuss with the GM the details on what's allowed and what's not. Likewise, mid-RP if something i feel might be questioned pops up, i will verify it with the GM. Should i accidentally do something unacceptable or distasteful, i'm willing to discuss it civilly and fix my mistakes too.

If you would like, i'm working on an actual character description (That you might find in your usual Freeform game) that i can show you when i have the chance. While i'm still working on the story portion, i have an idea of what i want the characters to actually be.

Communication between GM and player is necessary. Especially when i'm trying to do something like this.

The reason I used 3.5 True Dragons as a benchmark, even modified for bone disease and magic to compensate, are a relative known quantity.

I never ask a player to change an action that has not been warranted to be changed. If, and I stress the if, I ask it is for good reason. Whether I share my reasoning or not depends on a couple of factors the primary one being if I find myself having to explain my decision constantly than why am I running the game and not the player requiring the explanations.

Sometimes in the end it is better to understand that the GM/ST/What have you has his reasons and constantly needing to explain himself will have him cracking down left right and center. It's a rules light game so the guidelines are a known quantity. This way I can point at something and go this is why you can't do that. In a total freeform the only answer I could begin to give is I just don't like it so change it.

Yeah the god-modding is obvious, but still needs to be said because it is obvious.

As to size it is fairly negligible. Most, but not all, Dragons have innate shapeshifting. Those that don't can do so because of magic. Now if you wanted the Bone diseased one (I'm gonna call him Osteo for short) to be older and still small I could see that. Osteo could be a great wyrms and still the size of a young adult. Owing to the fact that as the bones either broke or just didn't grow right up to you on that, but logic supports that. On the flipside the no ranged one could be bigger than normal due to a variety of factors as well. Which is why size in the end is negligible.

I didn't mean to demand that you explain everything you do. Perhaps I could of worded it better, but what I mean is I don't want to be puppeteered or told what my character is. (example; someone forcing my character to not know the meaning of something (that theyd obviously know) or see things a certain way regardless if they would or not)

another example might be, say, I have a character that is strictly lawful, but the party (d&d example I know) wants said character to do something Illegal; so the DM forces the player to play that way without alternative(this can be argued as a reasonable decision though), and not only that, forces the character to be perfectly fine with it(this, on the other hand, isn't). Something the character would realistically not be ok with.

I would use specific examples from personal experiences, but that would run the risk of breaking rules I'd imagine. Either way I'm hoping you get the point. I don't plan on arguing over everything, but if I feel like I'm being wrongfully puppeteered or my characters decisions, actions, and mindset are being decided for me without my consent, I will raise a question. Luckily though, with a good DM, this is hardly the case.

As for the size deal, shape shifting or magic works. Besides, if it's a total free form in a world of the GM's own design, dragon size rules don't necessarily need to follow d&d rules.

I understood what you meant was simply replying. I will attempt to get this up and running soon get a link up to it in the next couple of days.

In reply to Knight_Vassal (msg # 10):

Oh alright. My bad. I will try to make sure I'm prepared for when you get the game up. Thank you.

In reply to RedTeamPyro (msg # 1):

link to another game

Here is the link for any interested parties.