Map is updated.

http://maps.google.com/maps/us...5770185600&hl=en

Why not drop a grenade in the bag of mines and throw the whole bag! It would work in Hollywood!!!

Fuse - am I correct in assuming that Mitch isn't aware of what happened when the grenade went off?  I.e. he doesn't know the status of Varis or Andrzej?

Thanks.

In reply to Caleb Mulcahy (msg #2):

If only it were so simple. Having IRL experience with explosives I know that's not likely to do shit besides waste a grenade. :(

No, there are a few other options though:
1. use as intended with tripwires, etc - not likely!
2. plug in a fuse, light, throw and run - possible, provided Meyer has the necessary items as per the set up for the mission.
3. get really creative (and potentially suicidal) by tying a string, wire, cord, etc to the detonating mechanism, throw, and then pull to activate - problem? the fuse gets pulled as it's thrown and BOOM in your face. I think this one should be reserved for Oskar.

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #3):

Correct. Different rooms in the apartment.
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:29, Wed 13 Apr 2011.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #5):

Thanks for the info - I've posted accordingly.

Just to confirm that I've only added the following to Rooke's character sheet:

1x RPG-16 w/sling + 3 reloads (in a sandbag) (18.4kgs)

Well, I feel dirty.

In reply to Oskar Friedmann (msg #8):

Unless Tomasz has ditched it he should be wearing NATO issue webbing with at least four STANAG mags in it, just in case you want some more ammo......

Ooo. Thanks for the reminder. BRB, getting dirtier.


"...and a few hundred meters away, Varis felt a great warmth, like the universe was slowly righting itself. It passed - all things pass no matter how wonderful - but in its wake was the sure knowledge that there was a Plan, and they were all part of it, and that somewhere, someone seriously injured was being berated for his cowardice while all his shit was being nicked."
This message was last edited by the player at 13:41, Wed 13 Apr 2011.

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #9):

He didn't ditch it. The webbing is on the floor next to the machinery he was behind. If anyone looks, there are 2 full magazines (one on the weapon) and 3 empties.

The blood trail leads out towards the bay doors that faced the East (the parking lot, the treeline, and the road. It's not so relevant now, but it appears he was either shot by Young's mortar team or by the two car loads of Anjo's men who came rolling in.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:49, Wed 13 Apr 2011.

I can see that going down real well with the locals Aleksandar, Janusz and Pawe...
What's the message they get out of this? Get scared and wounded and have the nasty American fuck you over. What a way to win friends.

On the other hand Jed would probably have just shot him....
"Either that or let him die slowly with his guts hangin' out. It's a mercy killing."

In reply to Oskar Friedmann (msg #10):

No worries – glad to help!

And I think that Oskar has answered Mike’s question quite succinctly! <G>

I’m glad that Mitch isn’t there – he almost always sees the best in people and would probably try to excuse Tomasz’ cowardice as Tomasz did fight well initially before we reached Charlie position and only ran when it got bad at the wall.

Leg - it's not directly relevant to me but which BTR are you refering to?

Fuse - please can you clarify something.  Which BTRs are visible from inside the ground floor of the townhouses?  I thought that the 1st BTR was below the level of the north wall of the courtyard (and therefore not visible) and that the wall around the eastern alley was high enough that from the ground floor of the townhouses you couldn't see the 2nd BTR.  Is this correct?

Janusz spit at him. I think we're in the clear.

Besides... these guys are Slavs. They're not Western Europeans. Slavs are different. They dig this shit.

Personally, I would have taken him back with open arms and compassion, but I work at a job that allows me to post to gaming boards and eat creme brulee at my favorite coffee shop at 11am in the morning. Post-apocalypse me might be a terrible, rotten fuck, and I hope to never find out. :)

I hope that I never meet him either! <G>

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #14):

If you look at the map, you'll see a BTR about a 120 metres to the east. This is the one hit by the 40mm grenade and Jed's slug earlier.
It had remained motionless for a while but moved a short time ago.
Fuse posted it could be seen through the gaps in the window boards.

The 1st (next to the wall) BTR is not visible to the ground floor with the wall blocking the LOS.

The 2nd (on the road) BTR is partially visible (turret & very top of hull only). Most of it is blocked by the wall, but the slight contours on the ground allow for it to be seen. I need to point out however, that it isn't enough to fire at, and any rockets would probably strike the top of the wall. Basically, I mentioned it only so that you are aware of it's location.
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:58, Wed 13 Apr 2011.

That's what I thought too. Only mentioned it IC so that Meyer would be aware that it'll be his job to deal with it when the time and opportunity comes.

Sorry, I thought that BTR had only been visible when it was comparatively close to the alley wall.

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #20):

Sorry for any confusion. I really only said it in the narrative because I wanted to indicate that you know it is there... to provide a little more situational awareness or whatever.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:49, Wed 13 Apr 2011.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #21):

No worries - in my head I had the alley wall as too high to see over and hadn't realised that the BTR was on a raised piece of ground.  It's amazing how each person ends up with a different mental image of a situation based on the same description! <G>

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When this is split how much do the loaded RPG-16 weigh on it's own?

1x RPG-16 w/sling + 3 reloads (in a sandbag) (18.4kgs)

Thanks.

12.5 kg (loaded RPG-16)

9.4 kgs for the launcher (which can be split in two)
3 kgs per round
0.2 kgs for the sandbag

LOL. Thanks for brightening my otherwise dreary early morning at work with your post. Hammer and sickles... great.
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:34, Thu 14 Apr 2011.

"Great Breshnev's Balls" still remains my favorite.

Just wanted to let you know that I will be in Pennsylvania for the next three days and I'm not yet sure of how often I'll be posting.  If you need to NPC to move the story on, please do.  I will be posting regularily Monday night.

John

Fuse, can Varis look back into the room they just left without backtracking too much?

I think there's only one WP left at most - best to save it for now.

Is Andzej still carrying all those claymores? (as per Cast thread)
This message was last edited by the player at 00:31, Mon 18 Apr 2011.

No. I put Varis in the hallway of the other townhouse to speed things up a little... ok?



Yes.

Totally. The further the better.

As for the WP, I thought that setting fire to the building might buy us some time and protect our rear.

Mitch was also considering doing that, but I think in the end he decided against it.

The hallway is mostly concrete/brick and difficult to set alight, unlike the actual apartment units. This was demonstrated (sort of) when JJM torched the East wing. WP went through the windows of the apartment units and burned well. However the WP that ended going through the doors and into the hallways didn't do so well after the phosphorous burned itself out.

The doorway to the courtyard is via the hallway btw...

What I am trying to say is, torching the hallway or the apartment won't really help - at least in the short term which is when it matters. The hall won't burn and by the time the apartment spreads, you ought to be long gone.

...sorry, I'm tired and I know my explanation is pretty crappy.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:35, Mon 18 Apr 2011.

Perfectly understandable description of the situation I think.

Good to know we have 6 heavy duty command detonated grenades there on Andrzej. :P
Can't think of anyone who can throw their 2kg weight more than the 30 metre length of the cable...

Meyer can't cover because he is already out the door and into the smoke.

Smoke takes time to take effect, and why would Meyer want to blind the group by dropping smoke on our own position? :S

I think its a fantastic plan. It could only get better with flamethrowers, but you have to work with what you have.

Probably a good idea to limit the use of smoke from here on too - it marks our location for all to see.
I agree flamethrowers would be nice, but that would mean we could go on the offensive. On the other hand, if we can find a way to quickly use the claymores and POMZ...
This message was last edited by the player at 02:55, Thu 21 Apr 2011.

Sorry the post is late. I forgot I had to do some things before the long Easter weekend. Will be up tonight.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #38):

I hope it's ok but as you haven't posted the latest turn I've posted the actions I PMed you.  I'm still on my phone though so I haven't been able to do combat tags. Sorry.

For those making their way outside, in the next turn, please indicate...

1) The order that your PC is exiting

2) If they are up against the townhouse, against the wall, or in the middle of the alley as they move.

And for the the guys at the Hummer and UAZ, in the next turn please indicate which vehicle you are boarding.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:40, Sat 23 Apr 2011.

Jinny - just to double check - have you added the RPG-16 with 1 rocket loaded to Meyer's character sheet?  I still have it on Rooke's character sheet as I was away on holiday when you posted and I just want to double check before I delete it.

Thanks.

I think there was only a total of 3 rockets?

In reply to Andrew Rooke (msg #41):

Its been added.

The launcher is on Meyer's sheet and I put the spare rockets with Ferro.

Before we all hop on the vehicles I think we need to consider Young's point.  We need to save the vehicles.  Maybe those who aren't wounded should try and push on on foot to the evac zone.  Otherwise have everyone escape via the vehicles.

Vehicles? What vehicles ;)

I agree with the second part of Mike's statement. Once the vehicles are loaded teh best bet would be to drive straight for friendly lines and on to the hospital, dropping people off at the evac point is just asking for trouble. The evac point is an attempt to pick up those who can't make safety under their own steam in time.

The UAZ is already gone isn't it?
I agree that the battlefield is no place for softskins. Get them the hell out of it asap!
With the M2 down, and M113, BTR and BMP all toast, we can't afford to loose them (not to mention they're loaded with almost everything we own).
There was a LAV-25 being worked on by the motorpool somebody reported a while back. What ever happened to that? (I think it was before the motorpool got shelled).

This is correct. There is no time to hoof it back to the main defensive lines. The vehicles on the other hand can - but a detour to go up to the river extraction point first, would increase the chance of losing them (the enemy are reported to be funneling through the gap in Waterloo's broken position towards the rear in an attempt to cut off escape).


The UAZ is with the Hummer (both are carrying the mortar team).

Unknown, but most of the vehicles in the motor pool were saved before the fires got too intense. Mike would say its probably still non-operational.
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:55, Mon 25 Apr 2011.

Something worth stealing later when we leave the city anyway... ;)
The UAZ did a hospital run though didn't it? I haven't been paying a lot of attention to that part of the field, so didn't notice it came back.

Aw shit. That's corect - it left with Fox. I forgot to edit that detail on the map and kept going with the UAZ being on location.

I will need to edit the post.

So only the Hummer is at Bravo, loaded up with the mortar det.

...and a bucketload of stores....
It'll be interesting to see how many can be squeezed into and on it!

In reply to Fusilier (msg #50):

Presumably it's best for the rearguard to go for the river extraction point then?

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #52):

Yes. Very much.

I thought that was the plan for you guys. The fellas at Bravo were the ones I was questioning. But yes, for the rear guard you really should make for the river at best speed.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #53):

I was always under the impression that Oskar et al would evac with the mortar team in the vehicles, and that those at the townhouse would head for the river. As the trucks have to evac anyway it seems pointless them dropping people off.

I'm sure Oskar can sit on the roof of the Hummer if needed!

In reply to Caleb Mulcahy (msg #54):

That's fine with me.

The Gdansk Mile...

There seemed to be some discussion starting about the rearguard trying to make it to the vehicles but that's obviously wrong.

Quickly fighting our way through to the evac point sounds like it will be fun! <G>

I'm ready to write up the turn - most rolls are done. Just need a couple more players to put in their actions.

Going for the river was always my intent. Fighting through the enemy inflicting as much damage as possible on the way is just a happy bonus. :P

Fuse - is it ok for Rooke to respond to Jed's instruction this turn or do you want me to wait until next?

Also am I correct that where Rooke currently is the wall is about 8 feet high but that towards the southern end of the alley it's effectively less because there is rubble from the ruined townhouses on the ground which you can stand on?  I think that that is where Rooke originally entered the townhouse complex and is therefore something that he knows but please correct me if I'm wrong.

In reply to Andrew Rooke (msg #60):

Err... critical rolls have been made already. Sorry, no more action. I'm pushing on with the results as I've already worked everything out.

The wall is about 8 feet yes. And yes, further down the alley where the debris spilled out from the bombed out sections (see map), it raises the "ground level" a bit.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #61):

No worries - I'll have him do it next turn.

Alternatively to moving down the alleyway, Rooke could just jump up and catch hold of the top of the wall...
That may be a better option rather than risk bunching up with Meyer and Ferro and potentially get everyone taken out by a single grenade.

Note that it's quite possible for a three man team to cross a 12 foot wall - even just two men have a chance of doing it (although not particularly quickly or with any real grace). Just because we've got 8 feet of brickwork in front of us doesn't mean it's impassable.

Of course that presumes nobody would be shooting at us... :(

In reply to Jed Black (msg #63):

Rooke is in the lead with Meyer though - he's not "bunching up" with Meyer and Ferro as Ferro is following on behind them the pair of them.

It's an academic discussion though - Rooke can take a look over the wall the next turn.

True, but my thoughts are that Meyer and Ferro would be leapfrogging Rooke to link up with JJ while Rooke peeped over the wall.
Rooke would still technically be in the lead, but he'd have PCs to both flanks up and down the alleyway.

In reply to Jed Black (msg #65):

We'll see - Rooke's heading south with an open alleyway behind him so he isn't keen to stop! <G>

We've got to cross that damn wall eventually though. :(
It'd be nice if there was a hole to crawl through and avoid waving ourselves around like a flag on a pole!

Well, you got mines, grenades and an RPG. They should be able to make a big friggin' hole!

Ok... brace for impact.

Sorry Andy, but the war has come to an end for Rooke. This is the final entry for the Green Jacket. Celer et Audax

The rear guard has been caught exposed in the alley. A while back, I determined the number of turns it would take for the enemy to organize the assault on the townhouse, including coordinating between the different squads and moving everyone into place. Your breakout occurred just shy of that time frame and have been hit by the cut off element of the Soviet force.

It's a basic assault, with a main force gaining entry into the townhouse from the courtyard in an effort to either destroy you in place or force you out the rear. Meanwhile, cut off elements have been set up to complete the encirclement and prevent escape through the back.

Considering everything, the rear guard has gotten off relatively easy. The next turn will be crucial though.

*** I've numbered the enemy. Please use these indicators to let me know who you are targeting. ***
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:41, Wed 27 Apr 2011.

Apologies to Frank, Oskar, Mike, and Caleb/Istvan. I need to complete your post tomorrow.

Fuse - nice ambush!

Sorry about Rooke. Oh well, one less whinging bugger in the group!

In reply to Fusilier (msg #69):

Balls!  I knew Rooke should have run earlier to save his own skin! <G>

(Just so others know at the start of this battle Fuse and I worked out the conditions under which Rooke would desert and they were never met, which I'm actually pleased about because those conditions were Mitch dying as Rooke's only remaining loyalty was to his fellow Green Jacket.)

He was an interesting and fun character to play and I'll miss being an arsehole at points! <G>

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Fuse, no need to apologise about Rooke dying - a game without the risk of character death is toothless and not fun to play in.

Fuse - in all the mayhem is Mitch aware of any more explosions from within the townhouse?  At present his left side is exposed to anyone in the townhouse hallway.....

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #73):

No, nothing in this turn.

Just gunfire in front of him (very close) and gunfire/grenades behind him.

Oops. :p

I've just realised that Rooke's last words were "Cock!"! <G>

A fitting epitaph for the way the man lived.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg #77):

LOL

In reply to Oskar Friedmann (msg #75):

I think you did that on purpose.

The idea of rolling up on their ass did somehow sound appealing to me. :)

JJ might know this, I don't.

Would firing the rifle grenade he has primed and loaded into teh smoke covered alley wall have any effect? I'm imagining that it would shake the people standing up and firing over the wall if not actually send bits of brick slamming into them. I'm also imagining catching our own guys in teh blast and showering them with rubble related death.

Good idea or bad?

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg #81):

You would have to fire over the heads of your own guys and on towards a smoke concealed position which Mitch is currently in as well. I think it would be too much of a risk. Good thinking though.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:26, Wed 27 Apr 2011.

Just to say that there are 3 frag and 2 smoke grenades on Rooke's webbing which could well be visible.

In reply to Andrew Rooke (msg #83):

Stop talking, you're dead.

Ok, post is up for the remainder. Sorry about getting left out like that.

The map is updated. Check it for further details on the enemy spotted by the Hummer. http://maps.google.com/maps/ms...0049a72d440cd6cc8589

Zombies!!!

Yeah, I thought there'd be a major catch in such a confused environment, that's why I decided to check rather than post it up.

Have you seen "28 Days Later"? <G>

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #88):

Yes - great movie.

However, if you want bad taste in advertising try this. And Yes, it is real!!!

In reply to Caleb Mulcahy (msg #89):

Superb!

I'll be offline starting tomorrow and throughout the weekend for family. I probably won't be able to resolve the turn until Monday at the earliest.

Have fun - we have a 4 day weekend here in the UK.

Apparently someone is getting married.... <G>

By the way, if the others drag Rooke's still warm and bleeding body over to JJ could he scrunch the corpse on top of the rubble and use it as a way to get over the damned wall. Cold I know but recycling is supposed to be good isn't it?

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg #93):

lol! Harsh but funny!

Down and out with nasty flu.

Fuse - just so you are aware my brother texted me this morning as his home PC is knackered and he won't be able to post until Tuesday when he's back at work.  Please NPC as necessary.

FYI, Jed has the Bren in hand and CAW is slung (I don't think the Bren has a sling), not the other way around as per your post Fuse.

That's George Washington's statue in front of West Point.  I'm wrapped in the flag under the Keep off the Grass sign.  Nowhere I'd rather have been.

In reply to Mike Catchings (msg #98):

Murica,



Ok. Thanks.

Everyone else, get yer posts in!

I will be away on holiday for the next two weeks. Although there is a slow internet connection and an ancient computer I expect most of my time will be spend lazy by the pool or on the beach. Consequently I don't think I will be posting for the next two weeks if so it will be scarce one liners at best.

Please NPC Andrzej when necessary that is if he survives the next few seconds of course.

In reply to Andrzej (msg #100):

No problem. Thanks for the heads up.

Everyone else, thanks for getting those turns in. I have enough now that I can do up the rolls and figure out what happens next. I'll try to have the narrative up tonight or tomorrow for certain.

So there is still time for anyone else who hasn't had a chance yet to get in their turn.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:50, Mon 02 May 2011.

Sorry. My flight got umm... had unscheduled layover for a couple hours in Pakistan. I am back now though. Turn completed.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:36, Mon 02 May 2011.

That sounds interesting in light of current events - are you able to expand?

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #103):

Sir, I am unaware of any such activity or operation... nor would I be disposed to discuss such an operation if it did in fact exist, sir.

In reply to Helmut Meyer (msg #104):

LOL

So your story is that you also did not assassinate a Vietnamese tax collector in Nha Trang province either?

Post is up for the rearguard and HQ fellas.

Please take care of your ammo... your GM is watching!

I'll update the map and then get working on the Kelly's Heroes wannabes.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #106):

We are in deep shit! <G>

Am I right that the only members of the rearguard who haven't been hit yet are Mitch and Andrzej?

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #107):

Deep shit, yeah. But there's a couple less enemy now...

Correct.

Mitch - ok (jammed weapon though)
Andrzej - ok
Varis - minor fragmentation wounds from earlier
Jed - hit in the back
Ferro - several fragmentation wounds and concussion/stun
Meyer - hit in arm and leg and knocked down
Rooke - KIA
JJM - mangled and chewed up from early on in the battle
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:25, Tue 03 May 2011.

COWARDS!!!!
How DARE they shoot a man from behind!!!
This message was last edited by the player at 23:33, Tue 03 May 2011.

Couple of questions before I post IC:

1.) Can Varis see the north wall? (I'm not sure due to the smoke)

2.) If so, can he tell if it's brick or cinderblock or some other material?

3.) Approximately how far is Varis from the north wall?

Thanks, Fuse.

It would be a huge help if we could get a more detailed "mini-map" of the rearguard dispositions, rather than all being lumped together.

Ok, I'll try to do something about a mini-map. Don't think it will be tonight though.

Kevlar was taken into account.


1) - No. The smoke is all he can see. I read your post to mean if he couldn't see anything north he would opt for a grenade over the wall instead. Was this ok?

2) - The wall is thick enough all around to stop at least 7.62mm fire.

3) - 35 meters or so. Hard to tell, since he can't actually see the end of the alley/north side of the wall.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:30, Wed 04 May 2011.

Out of curiousity, what were the items lost from the humvee?

In reply to Jed Black (msg #113):

Unknown. But at least a "box of ammo and a pressure cooker" were reported to be ejected.

1) More than OK.

2-3) Great. That's exactly what I needed to know.

No casserole for tea then?

Fuse - am I correct that Mitch reckons that that person is down low like they are in the alleyway rather than up high and firing over the wall?

Thanks.

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #117):

In the alley.

Someone, (Meyer or Caleb I think) reported the enemy had crossed over the wall earlier. This would help Mitch's guess that the enemy are inside the perimeter wall.

Probably not Caleb - no radio...

LOL. Shine on, you crazy diamond.

Crude map of the alley...

- Mitch up at the side of the townhouse in the doorway from where you started. Facing north and is in the smoke. Kneeling(?).

- Andrzej is further down, up against the side of the wall. Facing north. Prone.

- Varis is close to Andrzej and also up against the side of the wall. Facing southeast having just thrown a grenade over the wall. Kneeling(?)

- Ferro is on the other side of the alley next to the townhouse. Varis and Andrzej have caught up to her position because they ran (for cover and from the grenades) while she hasn't moved since the ambush (because she was next to an explosion). Facing south. Standing.

- Meyer is right in front of Ferro since he also hasn't moved far since the ambush began, also next to the townhouse. Facing east. Prone/knocked down.

- Jed is furthest south now (except JJM), having gotten ahead by running in the last turn. Facing south. Standing/moving.

- JJM is down in the rubble. Lying in and behind the debris. Facing northeast. Prone.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:50, Wed 04 May 2011.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #121):

Fuse - good map.

A couple of questions though (sorry).

1. Where is Rooke's body and, more importantly, his rifle, just in case someone decides to grab it or grenades from his body.

2. Am I correct that the two cars shown on the image aren't there?

3. Does the rubble start about halfway between Jed and JJM?

Nice map, I hope the cross left by the shadows to the left corner isn't our grave marker...

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #122):

Questions are good. No sorries.

1) I'll have to say very close to where Varis and Andrzej are right now. Next to the wall.

2) Correct. The lane is clear of all cars.

3) No. Much closer to Jed. The No.3 townhouse (counting from the north) is the first one damaged (it being half destroyed). So the rubble starts about right in front of where Jed is standing, starting with a few scattered bits and gradually piling up more and more.



In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg #123):

Thanks.

LOL, good eye.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:53, Thu 05 May 2011.

Sorry I haven't been able to post - I will do so tomorrow.

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #125):

No problem. I'm going to try to get the turn up tomorrow night, but I'll hold off until you get a chance.

With Rearguards minimal lube fourth point of contact penetration, and the Fun-vee's turn into imminent doom, I feel like Fuse has grown board of the game, and plans to kill us all off.



"Seconds before the burning humvee, filled with his fallen comrades, impacts the wall, the mortally wounded Mike takes one last look upwards and unleashes a double middle finger at the clearly malicious God or GM-like figure manipulating his life."

No way. Just trying to make the end of this chapter in the game a little epic.

Trust me.

Yeah, trust me he says! I tried that and I'm already on my 3rd PC!!! lol!

Fuse - just to be clear, based on the tactical map above, I'm assuming that Mitch isn't aware that Rooke has been killed yet as Mitch is actually in the edges of the smoke and has been focussed northwards anyway.

Hope that's correct.

In reply to Caleb Mulcahy (msg #129):

LOL, the dice! Blame the dice, not me.

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #130):\

Correct. Mitch isn't aware of anything that is going on behind him - except for what he can hear (mostly just shooting).

Most rolls done. Just need a couple more PC turns.

Okay, in one of these games, SOMEWHERE, someone posted a "Bayonet: Turn a Shooty thing into a stabby thing" demotivational poster.  I can't find it.  Does anyone have it or remember what I'm talking about?  Search through your funny pictures folder that you all have.

In reply to Mike Catchings (msg #133):

Don't have. This is the closest thing I have to your request...

Found it in Rae's game.

This message was last edited by the GM at 02:21, Sat 07 May 2011.

It's been a busy week and I wanted to make sure everyone got a good opportunity to get their post in, but the turn is finally up.

I've added an 8th SOP to the SOP thread in response to the continuing loss of supplies from the Humvee. Obviously not going to be much help at this point in time, but should save valuable supplies in the future.

In reply to Jed Black (msg #138):

To find it, see msg #2 in this thread > link to a message in this game

In Young's defense it was a rather hurried affair with the loading and unloading done in a brief intermission of the battle.

I don't doubt it. Mind you, there was no need for them to have moved from the campsite where they were initially set up (the range was already good), but did so on JJ's orders I believe.

Can Jed see any targets from his new position? Is JJ almost within touching distance?
This message was last edited by the player at 03:46, Tue 10 May 2011.

In reply to Jed Black (msg #140):

No targets. Which way is he facing though?

Yes, arm's reach.

Back the way he came and into the ambush. His intent is to lay covering fire along the top of the wall while those still in the kill zone get the hell out of it.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #121):

Sorry to add to your workload but please can you update the tactical map for the rearguard. I'm not sure whether Mitch has run past Rooke's body yet or not?

Thanks.

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #143):

Sorry, I won't be able to tonight.

Mitch is 'at' Rooke's body, if that helps.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #144):

That's fine - that's actually the key thing that I needed to know so I don't realy need the map now, unless others do.

Thanks.

Does anyone?

I'll put up a map after I get home from work today.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:49, Wed 11 May 2011.

Will post tomorrow morning (UK time).

In reply to Istvan Medgyessy (msg #147):

Right on. No problem.

I'm anticipating to get the turn up on Friday so hopefully we can get all the posts in by then.

Errr, CRAP!!!!!!
and CRAPCRAPCRAPCRAPCRAPCRAP!!!!!!!!

Edited to add more crap to the already crap situation.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:30, Wed 11 May 2011.

In reply to Jed Black (msg #149):

I'm impressed he's even on his feet.

I'm surprised that the bullet did so much damage after penetrating the kevlar...
*shrug*

What's everyone think? Do we give up and hope we survive, or fight on to our almost inevitable deaths? Either way we're sure to be out a hell of a lot of kit - there's no way the Reds will let us keep our goodies and we'd probably have to try for an escape (can't see a rescue in the near future happening).

Should never have gotten entangled in this fight... :(

We've killed enough of the Ivans, recently enough, that they are highly unlikely to give quarter in this fight. My guess is that this is a fight to the death.

In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg #153):

That's my guess too unfortunately.
I supose one point in our favour is that the Bradley isn't on the battlefield at the moment so it's a little harder to connect us with the raid on the artillery position a while back, or the other armoured missions in more recent times.

Perhaps someone stays behind to hold off the assaulting squad while the others hop the wall?  Of course if the guys in the grenade zone are still alive, it won't matter.

In reply to Mike Catchings (msg #155):

That's an option too, but grenades aren't anywhere near as devastating as movies try to imply. Crossing the wall would have to involve throwing 2-3 grenades and follwing them up with a direct physical assault (with guns and bayonets) half a second after they went off.

Even if the wall was crossed, there's still the various AFVs to dodge plus several units of infantry floating about. :(

All do-able, but I think extremely risky given that only about half of the current rearguard are in any sort of physical state to attempt it.

NEVER GIVE UP. NEVER SURRENDER.

In reply to Caleb Mulcahy (msg #157):

Great film and great comment! <G>

---

Remember that Fuse said a while ago that he was using house rules for damage and that those rules are more lethal.  I’m speculating here but (based on something that I think Fuse said on Kato’s forum) I think that he has halved people’s hit points in each location but kept the damage dice the same.

Therefore I don’t think that you can assume that you can work out the game mechanics here.  Rooke was certainly killed by a 7.62mmS round that punctured his Kevlar vest (though he was hit by 3 other rounds as well).

---

Though it is very noble of JJM to suggest surrendering to save Jed’s life I don’t think that surrendering is really feasible (in my opinion) for a number of reasons.

From an “In Character” perspective:

- Varis is a deserter from the Soviet Army and will be executed once the  Russians work that out.

- Ferro may well be a deserter from the Italian Army and Andrzej may well be a deserter from the Polish Army so they may well be subject to the same fate as Varis. (we don’t know enough about their backgrounds to be certain of this though)

- We have killed a lot of Russian soldiers in our defence of this part of the battlefield and there is a high chance that the Russians simply won’t accept our surrender and will just shoot everyone.

- We have wounded a lot of Russian soldiers as well and they will be a priority for medical care and so our wounded are unlikely to get the medical attention they need.

From an “OOC” perspective:

- Sorry to say this Leg but from the description of Jed’s wound it sounds (in game mechanics terms) like he’s been critically wounded in either the chest or the abdomen location and is therefore in the 10min window where he needs extensive medical treatment or he will die.  Even if the Russians had that treatment available I don’t think that they are going to use it on Jed so unfortunately I think that Jed is going to die either way as we won’t be able get him to that level of medical care either even if the Russian’s let us put him in a jeep and drive unmolested to St Mary’s.  I may be wrong but Mark101 knows his medical stuff (read some of Murphy’s posts in my game) and so JJM’s description of Jed’s wound is probably describing a “critical” wound rather than a “serious” wound in game mechanics terms.

- Even if Jed does receive the medical attention that he needs for a critical wound the recovery time is going to be very extensive and so he’s going to be an inactive character for quite a while.

- If some characters end up being captured then that presents a logistical problem for Fuse.  Unless he’s happy running essentially two games he has one group of characters as POWs and one group of characters still active (though mostly wounded).  It seems harsh to suddenly “capture” the wounded characters so the likelihood is that any POW characters would essentially be written out of the game and retired, their fates decided elsewhere.

I therefore don’t think that Varis would surrender even if ordered to (though that’s obviously Rae’s decision) and if Varis is trying to fight his way out then I think that Mitch would try to do the same even if JJM ordered him to surrender (this is one that I need to ponder as Mitch tends to follow orders).

Personally I’d rather have Mitch try to fight his way out and go out in a melodramatic way rather than surrender and then probably lose him anyway as he’s a POW if he’s lucky or executed if he’s not.

- I edited the bottom half of Istvan's thread to be visible as Oskar/Mike/Frank are now on site with them.

- I forgot about the mini-map last night. I wasn't online and it slipped my mind. Sorry. I will today.

- I don't really want to say much about the discussion above. Mitch's last post has a lot of good points though.
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:04, Thu 12 May 2011.

I'm not sure that it's needed at present as we don't seem to be taking fire at present......


I'm teacher's pet I am!

I'll go and get you an apple! <G>

I don't believe it's a critical wound, otherwise he should have keeled over unconscious and not made it the dozen metres or so up and over the rubble - especially with the load he currently has. It's also Jed's only wound, where as indicated other characters have suffered numerous injuries.

As for healing time, I don't see too many uninjured PCs about anywhere, with many of them carrying serious wounds (take JJ's arm or Oskar's leg for example). Regardless of what happens, the party isn't likely to be going any great distances or doing much that doesn't require strict bed rest for some time to come.

I'm all for trying to fight on if it's possible, and truth be told, slightly insulted at the idea of surrendering, but when you sit down and look at it, there's not a huge amount of choice unless we can get hold of somebody with artillery and tanks in the next five seconds. Our mobility is near zero in the current situation with several characters picking up significant injuries in the past turn or three. Some may be able to make it over the wall and maybe escape, but less than half have anything close to a decent chance.

It's worth noting that JJ has no notable medical skill also (none he's declared in the Cast thread anyway) - he could well be completely wrong about the seriousness of Jed's wound. On the other hand....

I suggest that you respond on that basis and keep fighting! <G>

I've done my post...
Maybe next round.

In reply to Jed Black (msg #163):

Fair enough!

I communicate solely through image macros when I'm stressed.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:58, Thu 12 May 2011.

In reply to Oskar Friedmann (msg #165):

Which one is Jed? <G>
This message was last edited by the player at 19:42, Thu 12 May 2011.

I'd say diagnosis skill or no diagnosis skill, Arterial blood splatters to the face are pretty convincing.

@Jed:

"By Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Warvan, you shall be avenged!"

-Varis Babicevs


This message was last edited by the player at 23:03, Thu 12 May 2011.

Bah! It's just a flesh wound! :P

In reply to Jed Black (msg #169):



King Arthur: [after Arthur's cut off both of the Black Knight's arms] Look, you stupid Bastard. You've got no arms left.
Black Knight: Yes I have.
King Arthur: *Look*!
Black Knight: It's just a flesh wound.

First half of turn post is up. Notice I split the rearguard into two groups on the map to show where everyone is a little better.

*** This upcoming next turn should be used for crossing the wall ***

The wounded will be what makes it difficult. On the bright side though, the PCs who are subject to CON rolls have all passed this turn. This includes Meyer, will be more conscious this turn - although one of his arms is next to useless so he can't do it alone.

JJM has a useless arm so he will need help getting up and over too.

Jed is gravely wounded and will also need assistance.

Ferro is wounded in several places, but based on her actions, she'll likely be able to cross on her own (or with minimal help).

Varis is injured, but his actions aren't restricted.

Andrzej and Mitch are both ok.

...remember there are troops trying to force their way into the townhouse behind you. The alley is smoked off (again), but you need to be quick.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:33, Sun 15 May 2011.

What was my ammo usage last turn please?

Also, is the body of the enemy soldier that was thrown clear of the UAZ close enough to spend a few seconds looting magazines off it?

Finally, am I right in thinking we are getting some fire from the unit to our south, marked Third Echelon - Squad 1?

Thanks
This message was last edited by the player at 05:27, Sun 15 May 2011.

In reply to Istvan Medgyessy (msg #172):

15 rounds.

Close enough - but in the line of fire from the guys to the south of you.

Yes, those guys.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #173):

Thanks - will post IC tomorrow.

Fuse – just to double check are you happy with Mitch doing his part of JJM’s instructions in one turn?

Thanks.

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #175):

Yes. It's ok. I'd actually like to get everyone completely over in this turn. I'd speed it up a little more but I want to keep it in synch as much as possible with the team in the Hummer.

Thanks - will post IC later tonight.

Will try tomorrow night for the turn post.

Will post tomorrow morning

Thanks for the posts. Rolls and enemy moves all done. Started the turn, but may need to finish tomorrow.

Turn is up. Sorry it couldn't be sooner.

Map is updated too.

No worries - cracking job done as usual. Thanks Fuse!

Fuse - what were these men standing on to get elevation over the alley wall to fire at us?  I was half hoping that it might have been the rear of a fully serviceable truck that we could now steal.... <G>

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #183):

Looks like 3 barrels and a box - that might have come from the back of the truck that is parked rotting in front of the ruined building.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #184):

Pity - I thought we might just have gotten lucky! <G>

You are luckly... you are still alive...

In reply to Fusilier (msg #186):

LOL

---

Fuse - how quick is clearing a jammed SAW?  Can Mitch do that before taking point?

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #187):

The stoppage Mitch has is just a link stuck on the feed tray (wasn't ejected). This type is simple - just an unload and a reload, so one turn is fine... plus any other minor action you want to take.

Just need a couple more posts in.

If anyone if JJM's group can take the RPG from Meyer it would be good. Someone who isn't loaded down and/or wounded. He is loaded with the RPG, the GPMG, belts of ammo, and his other gear plus his arm is seriously wounded.

Surely Major Black can find some space - after all, he's not really carrying much!

When we get a chance to do it IC Mitch will take the RPG from Meyer - Ferro has the spare rockets doesn't she?

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #192):

Yes. Ferro has the rockets.

Rolls done - turn should be up tonight or maybe tomorrow if I get interrupted.

Turn is up. Map is updated too.

Rearguard... figure out how to get across the road and you're home free.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:03, Tue 24 May 2011.

Do any of the gangsters with Boss Anjo have rifles? M1 or something similar?

In reply to Oskar Friedmann (msg #195):

For that rifle grenade? No, sorry.

Boss Anjo - (Skorpion)
Scarred Polish Goon - (AK-74)
Driver/Bodyguard - (AKSU)
Facial Tattooed Goon - (Shotgun)

No, for sniping. Mike has an M16 for the rifle grenade... I was looking for something that could reliably fire 150m.

I believe that one of the militia guys in the mortar team has an SKS rifle if that helps.  There was an older guy who had his own rifle and experience of using a mortar if I remember correctly.....

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #198):

That's correct.

This PKM machinegunner could be about to get the shock of his life!  If Volodya fires at him with a GL, Mitch opens up with a SAW (assuming that he can get an angle to see the target) and Oskar starts sniping then that could be quite painful! <G>

EDIT - and Istvan firing with his RPK and whatever the rest of Oskar's group do!  Very painful indeed!
This message was last edited by the player at 12:35, Tue 24 May 2011.

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #200):

Not so fast. He has a helmet on.

Most rolls are done. I'll probably have the turn up tomorrow.

Could I get a clarification on the rear guard's actions?

Some are running across to the Hummer, but others like Mitch are holding back. I think I know what each PC is doing but I'd like to be sure since this is a critical move.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #202):

I think that:
 - Mitch is trying to engage the enemy machinegunner.
 - JJM, Black and Meyer are running across to the Hummer.
 - Varis is firing some bursts at the Russians coming up behind us and is then running across to the Hummer.
 - it's unclear what Andrzej and Ferro are doing but my assumption is that they're following JJM across to the Hummer.

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #203):

That is generally what I think too, but there are some possible exceptions.

Varis for example says he is shooting and then ready to run across - however I'm not sure if Rae is intending on actually running this turn. I just don't want to mess up people's intentions.

Jed is passing off equipment, but I'm not sure if he is crossing in this turn also.

And I could use a post from Andrzej to confirm, although he will be NPC'd if not, and will be running across.
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:24, Fri 27 May 2011.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #204):

Ah - I see your point!

And Ferro just raised an awkward one as well! <G>

Dont rely on Istvan not shooting you - if you run in his field of fire you volunteer for target practice!

In reply to Istvan Medgyessy (msg #206):

LOL... noted!!!

Jed can't really move at more than a crawl without dropping a lot of weight. Other than that, he's focused on managing the pain and letting others guide his steps.

Wait who's shooting in the northern groups?  I assumed that there was a lot of return fire, but now I'm not so sure.  If there isn't, then I'll edit my post for Mike to engage.

In reply to Mike Catchings (msg #209):

I think you should keep your post as it is. I'm 90% done writing up the turn - in addition to Oskar's grenade shot, several of the militia are firing. The doctor's bag is a good choice to salvage anyways I'd say.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:01, Sat 28 May 2011.

Ok. Bad news first. We've lost 2 PCs in the heat of battle. Black and Andrzej will have their names added to the honor roll of the fallen.

I encourage both players to use this time now to create new PCs. This chapter of the game will soon be coming to a close and when the situation and setting changes, it will be best to have a PC who is ready to go. Once the game advances on to the next stage, it will be harder to incorporate new arrivals since new PCs are coming from an establish pool (Jed and Caleb's patrol mates).

I'll remind the dead (and all players) that new PCs need to fall into the guidelines of junior ranks only and with no spec ops type backgrounds (although elite infantry is ok). We have too many of those as it is, and I want to rebalanced the team. Once we lose some more NCOs or officers, I'll relax the rank restriction. Cymon, who will be joining us ASAP, has already created his PC based within these limits as did Caleb a ways back.

Regarding the two fallen soldiers gear, those running behind (Mitch, Varis, Istvan, etc) may attempt to grab some of it. The more you try to take, the longer you will be a stationary target and thus easier to hit. The easiest items to grab are Jed's radio and shotgun, and Andrzej's AK74 and the RPG-16. If you want to grab anything, please be specific.

Regarding the enemy in the townhouse. There isn't enough detail determined up to this point to give you more info. Gunfire appears to be coming from the first and second floor windows. If you fire please indicated which floor you are firing at.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:08, Sat 28 May 2011.

Sory to lose Jed and Andrzej, although at least by the Russians killing Jed it saved the vet from having to put him down!

Bad luck guys - I look forward to meeting your new characters.


Welcome to the game Cymon - Fuse doesn't usually kill this many PCs this frequently, even though he's fairly certain that we'll lose more characters, judging by his first comment! <G>

BTW - as well as Caleb and Cymon's character Rooke, Mitch, Methuselah and (I think) Mike were created under those limits.


Fuse - from his position can Mitch see the enemy in the townhouse?  The building partially between them is a ruin so I'm not sure if it impedes LOS at all or not.

Thanks.

No. Just the northeast edge of the building but none of the windows - unless he steps out to the left (north). The firing from the shooters at the ZU caused him to stop before he got any further.

Also, you might want to leave now while there still is smoke on the road.
This message was last edited by the GM at 07:15, Sat 28 May 2011.

What Mitch & Varis should be doing right now...


Bart: And now, for my next impression... Jesse Owens.

Nah I just figured a junior enlisted medic made more sense than playing some neurosurgeon.  Would be more fun too, I don't like playing 50 year old characters.

Post up tomorrow night.




This message was last edited by the GM at 01:56, Mon 30 May 2011.

CRAP!!!!!

I can't stress just how much that blows! Jed was a wonderful character who barely had time to be developed. :(

His shotgun is a real prize (along with the ammo) capable of penetrating and potentially taking out an APC. It's also automatic - what can be more fun than an automatic shotgun firing buckshot? :p

His smoke grenades are also a prize - duration 4 times as long as normal.

Might be quicker to simply strip the webbing off his body though - it too is special (doubles as a climbing harness).
This message was last edited by the player at 00:35, Tue 31 May 2011.

Hey all, sorry I haven't gotten a turn up, but I've been scrambling.

Anyway, I have another ~7 weeks of training ahead of me, and I'm not sure when I'll have access to a comp/rpol.  If you would kindly NPC my character (again) that'd be great.  I'll be able to read along on my phone here and there, but posting is a really big maybe, depending on it's desire to cooperate with logging in.

I'll be back on July 22nd.

Umm, they're AP mines, not AT.
There's no way anyone would be carrying half a dozen AT mines in a sack...
They're also near impossible to booby trap quickly - believe me, I've given it a LOT of thought in the last few weeks!

In reply to Jed Black (msg #220):

I don't think that Varis was intending to destroy (or thinks that you could destroy) the mines with a frag grenade - I think that the trap was purely to take out whoever looks at the content of the sack!

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #221):

That was my understanding. Rae speak up if that is not the case.

In reply to Mike Catchings (msg #219):

No problem. Thanks for the heads up and good luck.

Varis' main intention was to hopefully further slow pursuit. IF the grenade explodes, hopefully it damages or even detonates a couple of the mines. I know that this is not likely, but it's possible. For some reason, I read that they were AT mines. No matter. What's done is done.

@Leg: Sorry that Jed got killed. He was an interesting fellow. At least he went down fighting. It would be nice if we could grab some of Jed's kit but Varis is not going to try. I'd rather lose a little more gear if it means keeping my PC alive a little bit longer.

In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg #224):

Ok, that's what I thought.


Rolls are done, but I'll hold off to give everyone a chance to post.
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:23, Mon 30 May 2011.

Turn is up. Working on the map.

The dock is only a short distance away and we can cover it in one turn. The Hummer can drive over, but most of you will need to hoof it on foot (suggest the wounded are transported). The Hummer and most of its cargo will not be able to go along with you though.

The MU and Fisherman's League troops holding the thin perimeter by the docks are engaging Soviet troops pushing down from the northwest. They won't wait much longer.

Don't forget your ammo please. Check it off or ask me to keep track of it for you.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #226):

Will post later today, hopefully!

Do we have a supply of 5.45 mags by the hummer? If so Istvan intends to grab as many as he can carry as he is dangerously low, pissed off and spoiling for a scrap.

I assume that Crusher would also grab any RPD ammo he can as well.

How many wounded can the Hummer accomodate? From Gang Anjo Pavel will need to ride in it, and probably Volodya as well. I am also assuming Meyer, JJM and Oskar, possibly Ferro. Who else?

The Humvee can still drive out of there at breakneck speed though? The driver (and anyone else with it) should probably have a gas mask handy....

There are 4x 45 round mags. There is no ammo suitable for Crusher visible however.



Fortunately, most can sit and don't need to lie down (like Pavel), so quite a few can be carried. All of the wounded can fit if they are the only ones aboard.



Leg, if JJM wants to make that call he can, and I'll roll it out, but the T-80, MTLB, and squad of troops (at least) are in the way.
This message was last edited by the GM at 11:48, Wed 01 June 2011.

I have taken the mags and hopefully make our escape a bit quicker!

In reply to Istvan Medgyessy (msg #230):

Ok, add them to your sheet please.

5.45mmB 45x rnd magazine
5.45mmB 45x rnd magazine
5.45mmB 45x rnd magazine
5.45mmB 45x rnd magazine

In reply to Fusilier (msg #231):

Done

I am also amended it to include the 2x 30rnd mags I took from Pavel, one of which is now empty.

BTW - Caleb gave Mike/Frank a rare HEDP grenade for a BG-15 GL, but is hasn't been used or handed out to anyone. Varis, or another PC with a BG-15, might like to claim it when they know about it!!!

Varis would love it. He'll ask for it as soon as someone mentions it in his presence.

In reply to Caleb Mulcahy (msg #233):

Who has the grenade? I mean, on which sheet is it listed?

If someone can use this RPD that Frank has, take it now because he's not taking it with him!  Just sayn...


...and get ready for the Gdnask Mile!
This message was last edited by the player at 19:03, Wed 01 June 2011.

Varis might be interested- if he can't find any more 40mm S grenades. How many drums does it come with?

Frank's using the partial in there and [1] spare drum with him.  I believe there is a 2nd one nearby with the other gathered/captured weapons next the BTR.

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg #238):

Correct.

Can it be taken in the Humvee? I want it for Varis but I don't want him to be weighed down since he's going to be pulling back on foot.

In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg #240):

Oh yes. It can be thrown aboard.

We lost a few crates, remember. There's spare room. :)

Either Mike or Frank has the 40mmS HEDP grenade, cant remember which.

Crusher has an RPD and would be grateful of any extra ammo given to him.

Glad I finally mde the list! I hope your checking it twice!

Frank's got the M-203 on his M-4

It's going in the Hummer so grab the extra can if it hasn't been already

In reply to Caleb Mulcahy (msg #243):

It's not the one on your sheet? Neither Mike or Frank have it listed on theirs. Both of them have American launchers as well.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #246):

When Caleb got packed off in the ambulance with Zajac et al he passed some gear to Mike and Frank. I dont know who got what. It was 1x HEDP 40mmS and 4x AK 30 rnd mag. They are still on my char sheet, with a note at the bottom about them.

I suspect they have been forgotten about it all the fun!

Note to Frank / Mike - check your pockets guys!

In reply to Caleb Mulcahy (msg #247):

Ok, I'll add the HEDP round to Varis' sheet and delete it off of yours. In the confusion, we'll say that Mike took it, but handed it off to Varis since it's no good to the corpsman or Frank.
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:36, Thu 02 June 2011.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #248):

Fine - delete the 4x mags as well and add them to general stores at the Hummer.

Ok, just to give everyone a heads up regarding what's going to happen in about 2-3 turns or so...

You are going to be linking up another unit from the 8th ID, who are the remnants of the very same patrol that spawned Caleb and Black. I'm using this idea to be able to introduce new PCs (for Cymon, Eagle Eye, Legbreaker and Andy) in a more believable sense than the usual "in walks another lost straggler". I won't get into the details here (I'll save it for IG), but the Mad Dogs will be absorbing this patrol.

With the loss of its original commander, Andy's new PC, Luis Ortega (US Ranger), is the next ranking man. He will ultimately fulfill the role left vacant by Kurt, that of the JJM's platoon sergeant. Mark has already given his blessing, although his PC doesn't know it yet.

Cymon will be playing Billy 'Crack' O'Brien, of the British Paras.

Eagle Eye, who is actually returning (he was originally Arthur Fox), is taking on the role of US Ranger (about half of the small patrol are Rangers).

And Legbreaker's new PC will be something the platoon is now lacking, an active sniper (US Marines).

There will also be another 2 NPCs in the group as well. One will be sort of like an avatar... waiting for a player to take him over. This is in case Oskar's leg goes gangrene and he dies or something. It's basically just a ready spare. While the other one is a suitable crewman in case you keep the Bradley and JJM needs a gunner.

Post up either tonight or tomorrow after work.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:48, Thu 02 June 2011.

Hi there.  Andy aka Mitch here.  As Fuse has just explained I’m bringing in a second character as a replacement for Weiss as the senior NCO.  Sergeant First Class Luis Ortega will become my main character and, though I will continue to play Mitch as well, I will move him more into the background.

I checked the character sheet and didn't find it.  It may have been handed off on the spot since I couldn't use the 40mmS round or the mags.  I do remember you doing that though even though it really doesn't help.

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg #252):

It's ok. Varis has the grenade and the mags are in the Hummer now.
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:22, Thu 02 June 2011.

Thanks. With a new group joining the unit, don't you all think it's time for a battlefield promotion for Varis? Captain Babicevs has a nice ring to it.

All promotions must be cleared and signed off by Warboss Friedmann.

Capo seems more appropriate for some reason....

Or Don Babicevs, that has a nice ring to it too.

LOL - that's even better!

Given that we're about to lose nearly all of our gear, setting Varis up as the crime king of Gdansk might be the only way to keep food on the table.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg #259):

Regarding that...

I'll only move the next turn up to the point of embarkation so you all can indicate if you want to take something from the Hummer (and specifically what you want to grab). It won't be a total loss if everyone takes an item from it in each hand. That is the best that can be done under the circumstances.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:35, Fri 03 June 2011.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #260):

Do you want us to list specific items, for example a bag with the spare grenades in it, or do you want us to give you a general idea of what we're grabbing like "ammo" as we're not spending a lot of time choosing.

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #261):

I am not sure yet. I starting looking over the inventory after I posted that.

While that means I'd need to come up with a list of what is in the Hummer for the PCs to choose from, I figure I'll eventually have to do that anyways to determine what the loss is when the vehicle is abandoned.

I guess it depends on if I can get the list done before the end of next turn.

Surely the crime king of Gdansk is Kaminski?

Or should it be Oskar?

Don or Capo Varis sounds good. So does Varis Babicevs, Crime King of Gdansk. Crime Lord is cool too.

BTW, whatever happened to Kaminski (the character)? Was he badly wounded? His hotel/brothel was overrun by the Soviets, was in not? Or it was hit by arty. I can't remember but I'm curious.

In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg #264):

Fox reported that Kaminski disappeared from the hospital... much like Boswell did. However unlike the intelligence officer, Kaminski actually checked himself out. He is believed to have since gone into hiding - probably in a dark, dank, scumhole somewhere, waiting for this whole war thing to blow over.

His hotel/brothel/and future casino is now behind enemy lines (Polish battalion). It was last seen by the party with the roof and upper floor on fire. Since then, Kaminski's small crew seems to have broken up after fleeing, and are now displaced all over (Low Blow ended up at St.Mary's where he was recruited by you for example).

That said, you probably haven't seen the last of him.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:24, Fri 03 June 2011.

Ok, post is up.

I'll come up with a list of items that you can pick from to carry aboard the boat. You'll be limited to what one person can carry at a time in their hands.
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:04, Fri 03 June 2011.

Bumped the list...
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:55, Sat 04 June 2011.

In reply to Fusilier (msg #267):

Istvan has taken Food 4x large containers

Fuse - one query.

Caleb didn't take his pack with him on this mission, as I am sure other PCs didn't either. Where are these packs, and what has happened to them. I assumed that they would have been left back in our billet. Is this the case?

In reply to Caleb Mulcahy (msg #269):

I don't think so.  I think that they are in the vehicles as well.

If they are then Mitch's pack is distinctive as it has an M4 Carbine strapped to the side.

Also if the packs are there is it possible to sling a pack over a shoulder and still carry 2 "units" of stores?

Frank has his pack with him with the remainder of his stuff at their bivouac area.  I have it broken down to what he is carrying in it.

No sorry. See, that would require four people to carry because there are a total of 4 separate containers.

Istvan can carry one large container of food at most. Or one item in that same list.

Or, he can carry two items from the top list of small items.



With the exception of Frank and one other person (I forget who and need to check), everyone's packs are with the Bradley or secure. There was a discussion in the beginning of the battle and as a result the packs were not brought - and I have been keeping that in mind throughout the battle (for rolls, movement and such).
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:54, Sat 04 June 2011.

Could Varis open the case of frags and stuff a few in his pockets/webbing so that he can still carry other items in his hands?

Seems to me that, if the case were open, everyone could grab and pocket 2-4 frags. They really came in useful in the kind of urban battlefield we're operating in.

In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg #273):

I was thinking more of time being an issue than bulk and weight. But ok... for the grenades, some can be grabbed individually. Doing this for other items will take too long however.

Fair enough, thanks.

P.S. I'm not trying to be a gear whore; in fact, I like how you're not letting us take everything with us. These kind of tough choices make what we do recover seem a lot more precious.

In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg #275):

I know. No problem.

OK Fuse, I think I maxed out on gear. I'm assuming the RPG + 3 rockets listed as one item actually counts as two (correct me if I'm wrong). I'll let you decide how many frags Varis grabbed- he's going for 20.  ; )

If Varis wants to bend over, I'll get JJ to load him up a few more grenades where the sun don't shine. Could make him into a grenade launcher, especially if we feed him our stocks of pickled herring.

In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg #277):

Crap. I worded that poorly I guess. There is no RPG-7 launcher... just the sack of rockets. So he can grab one more item from the top list.

The gang has your launcher btw.

4x frag grenades were taken.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:06, Sat 04 June 2011.

Hmmm. I wonder if I should forget the rockets and take something else then.

LOL. Don't give him ideas! I remember when Varis first joined the team and he was farting up a storm in the back of the Bradley after he ate (by himself) a big bag of candy.

In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg #280):

You only "loaned" the RPG-7 to them if I recall.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:11, Sat 04 June 2011.

Talk about killing two birds with one stone...

P.S. Somebetter better grab those mortar bombs or Varis will be having a major hissy fit.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:16, Sat 04 June 2011.

Hmmm. I guess I'm metagaming a bit here. Fuse, will we be able to have an NPC or "reserve" PC mortar squad? If not, grabbing the mortar is not going to be helpful.

I prefer to handle as much as possible IC but I'd kind of like to discuss OOC what stuff to take and what stuff to dump in the harbor.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:42, Sat 04 June 2011.

In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg #283):

Young is supposed to be NPC'd by Leg so I was waiting to see if the mortar det would get direction from him before acting. Feel free to be involved in this though.

Fuse - Mitch was going to cover the rear while everyone else gets on the boat.  Is there a strong enough cordon of Merchant Union and Fisherman League men for him to fall back and pick up gear as well?

Hey Fuse, you had Frank down as using 7.62S.  He should've switched back to his M-4 unless he was using the RPD again?

I'm not sure I follow what you mean. In Frank's turn post (#465), it says he is using the RPD, not the M4.



Yes, but you'll need to post all of your actions in this turn because the boat is casting off in the next one. If he isn't boarded by next turn, he'll be stuck on the pier.

OK, that's what I thought.  I though I also put it in the back of the Hummer already & I guess that's my confusion.

That's fine - IStvan grabbed 1x food and that is all.

Ok - so that means that Caleb's pack was not with the Hummer or the Bradley, but was left back at base. Is this correct?

What I am getting at is I need to know if Caleb will have his pack and contents when he rejoins the party, or if it is lost. You dont need to decide now, but I will need to know when Caleb returns from the aid station/hospital.

Fuse - Volodya had an RPG, taken off Pavel. However, when he was wounded he dropped his AK. Did he keep hold of the RPG, or is it lost as well?

Hey Fuse, to be fair, Frank had wounds to both of his shoulders.  I'm trying to ffigure what he's going to grab or can be put in his ruck.

The both weapons were being carried, one in each arm. When he was shot, he dropped the weapon that was carried by that arm (which was the rifle). So he still has the RPG.



As far as I understand it, Caleb's ruck is in the Bradley. If that isn't correct, I'm still not going to write it off, since I did say the rucks would be secure.



Frank's wounds are not as severe as JJM, Meyer or Volodya, so his ruck (which is only partially full) shouldn't be a problem. Since it also isn't far to go, only a few steps really, Frank can carry a normal load like the rest of the team.
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:31, Sun 05 June 2011.

Will post IC tomorrow. Sorry for the delay.

How many arms has Oskar got?  I think that you've got 3.5 loads there! <G>

7.62mmS 1x can - half load
Excavating Tool Set 2x unit - 2 loads
Basic Tool Set 1x unit - 1 load

Has Oskar been mutating again? <G>

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Fuse - Mitch has taken:
 - 4x Frag grenade (assuming that there are 4 left to take)
 - 60mm WP 1x unit of 3 rounds
 - RPG-7 Ammo 1x sack of 3 rockets

I'm not accounting for any of that on Mitch's character sheet.  Please let me know if I need to.

Thanks.

In reply to Robert Mitchell (msg #296):

Crap, that's a good point I forgot to mention. Do NOT add any of this to your sheet. I'm keeping track and considering them still a part of unit stores.

Except for the frag grenades, since that is a little different.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:47, Mon 06 June 2011.

Frank is going to try and get the [2] cans of 5.45B ammo and if possible, the bolt cutters in his rucksack?

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg #298):

Ok.


This represents a list of things that are readily available for saving. There might be other things in the Hummer, but this is all that you are aware of without digging through the piles of gear.

Each individual item in this list below counts as half a load (an item carried in one hand). So for example, Varis can carry 1x can of 5.45mmB and 1x sack of RPG-7 rockets. Or Frank can carry 2x units of 3 HE rounds. People like JJM with mangled arms though, can only carry one item.

RPD Light Machinegun 1x unit
RPD ammo 2x drums Crusher
5.45mmB 2x cans Frank
7.62mmS 1x can Oskar
9mmP 1x can
Fragmentation Grenades 14x Varis(4) Mitch(7) Oskar(3)
60mm HE 4x 2x units of 3 rounds each Pawel(2)
60mm WP 1x unit of 3 rounds Mitch
60mm ILLUM 2x units of 3 rounds each
RPG-7 Ammo 1x sack of 3 rockets Mitch
C4 Explosive (kg) 1x large box JJM
Dynamite 1x large box
Air Compressor 1x unit
Bolt Cutters 1x unit Frank
Automotive Batteries 2x units
Combat Webbing (US) 3x units
Chest Harness (Sov) 1x units

Each item here is equivalent to one complete load. So for example, Varis could carry the mortar, but nothing else.

60mm Mortar w/plotter 1x unit Varis
Engineer Demo Kit 1x large box Mike
Excavating Tool Set 2x unit
Basic Tool Set 1x unit
Wheeled Vehicle Tool set 1x unit
Large Camouflage Netting 1x unit
Food 4x 3x large containers Istvan(1)
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:10, Mon 06 June 2011.