New OOC thread.

Varis will take the ammo from the abandoned AK-74.

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There's a bit of detail in my post but the basics are that all active PCs apart from JJ and Riedel go in the Krok on the flanking assault. We'll keep the assault unit as one big group to try and keep up momentum, hopefully everyone will have someone to feed off that way.

Hey fellas,

I'll be home tomorrow and back to regular online access. Thanks for your patience.

I'll wait to post a reply to Kessler from his orders to hold then, if he wants to.

Fuse, just a reminder when you get back into things, a search of the dead body and taking anything useful we may need up to and including clothing and shoes/boots.

Worth the wait upon your return!

I've assumed that Benucci's squad would have assembled by the Krankenwagen following McCarthy's instruction so are all present for McCarthy's briefing and Kessler's follow on.

Sorry for not posting IC yet.  Will try to do so tonight.

Ta,

Andy

Not a problem, we shall assemble and move out as directed.

Apologies - the end of my holiday and travelling home from Kefalonia was a little more rushed than planned.  I'm now back at work and catching up there.  Will catch up here ASAP.

Please NPC Tosh if necessary.

Ta,

Andy.

I have a Google account through my school and, even though I'm at home, my access to the campaign map is blocked. Any way someone could take a screen-shot or something and post it here?

P.S. Varis would like to claim the nicest two of the captured AK-74 mags.

Thanks.

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This message was last edited by the player at 02:35, Sat 03 Sept 2016.

Southern group is at the front of a company defensive position (two platoons forward - one back). There is a main trench system going east to west, with communication trenches branching off to provide covered access to the houses (usually via a hole in the cellar). There's hull down positions for a 3 tank platoon, or other AFVs or Rapira guns. Between each house is a coil of concertina wire.

There is also an irrigation ditch to the immediate front (about .5 - 1m deep and 3-5 wide)

Beyond the first row of houses you can't see if there are more fortifications or not.

All houses are intact, but heavily damaged. They are enough to block LOS and be entered, but roofs are collapsed, walls may be missing, etc.

For scale, the distance from the blast location to the Krok is just under 100m.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/...0BdJJf_TUIyZ9b7yYU9Y

This message was last edited by the GM at 02:51, Sat 03 Sept 2016.

I'll be away from Sunday until Thursday this coming week so not sure how much  - if any - time I'll have to post until I'm back.

To clarify, Frank & Billy are off the Krok (near/next to each other) and Varis is behind them?  How far and is there any sort of cover?

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 13):

Yes, 50m between you two and Varis (behind). Just the field really.

Sorry - juggling and trying to catch up.

Please NPC Tosh if necessary.

Apologies for this.

Andy.

Turn is up. Next post is scheduled for Friday.

Turn is up.

I'm not trying to bore anyone, but I don't want to create a firefight just for the sake of it... not when other things are happening that you may not be aware of. I apologize if you feel like I'm leading you on and nothing's happening. It'll come, one way or another.

What's the status of Tosh's leg wound please?

Ta,

Andy

Slight. He has all mobility except running, kneeling is painful, and there is the standard loss of initiative.

I don't have it in my notes or die roller that valid med-aid was attempted. If it was (Riedel?) please correct me. If none was given, it won't be long before he starts to feel light headed and weakened.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 20):

Msg 478 is the one where Riedel references treating all four wounded - Lines and Fischer aren't mentioned by name but the intent was always that the less seriously wounded got treated after Little was stabilised. Am on my phone so awkward to copy and paste but the last paragraph specifically refers.

Kessler's post is intentionally vague in terms of a specific plan - Mark's got more detail to come later.

Is this roughly the plan?

1) Krokodil (Blue) goes around Bogatka and then makes flanking move on enemy hamlet.

2) Krankenwagon (Green) goes through village to gap just before the irrigation ditch. Note, many of those trees may be gone.

3) Humvee (Yellow) moves up to be on the right of the Krankenwagon.

Mad Dog squad assigned to Krok.
Militia Assault guys assigned to Krank.
Militia Rifle guys assigned to Humvee.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/...0BdJJf_TUIyZ9b7yYU9Y


This message was last edited by the GM at 03:43, Sun 11 Sept 2016.

Turn is up. I've timed it to give Krankenwagon/Humvee guys a turn at firing as part of their support role, while the Krok spends a turn maneuvering and dismounting (if that's your decision). Observing from moving vehicle (even when topside) is a difficult task and is reflected in the rolls... in which there really isn't much detail on the enemy at this point.

Also as a reminder, it's helpful and potentially advantageous to state your PC's stance (prone, kneeling, or standing). This can affect observation as well as fighting rolls.

Updated Map...

https://www.google.com/maps/d/...0BdJJf_TUIyZ9b7yYU9Y


This message was last edited by the GM at 06:05, Tue 13 Sept 2016.

Fuse, when you get a chance, will you post a screen shot of the map here? Even though I'm at home, my work filter is not letting me access Google Maps through my Google account. It's aggravating but I don't know how to get around it. Thanks.

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Turn is up, but I won't be able to update the map for a few hours. I'll include a screenshot.

Map link: https://www.google.com/maps/d/...0BdJJf_TUIyZ9b7yYU9Y

Three houses marked with thicker borders. It was a little difficult to mark and illustrate the various bits of cover in the yards, so players can use a bit of free imagination here. As long as it fits with the narrative (I mentioned various types of cover here and there), it's fine.

For more detail, consult the linked map if possible.


This message was last edited by the GM at 02:22, Fri 16 Sept 2016.

I'm going to be at the range working an academy class this week so my time is going to be very limited until about the 28th or so of this month.

My internet's down at home and I can't post from work. I'm on my phone now. I'll try to post IC but if I can't, Varis will fire a couple of suppressive bursts at the upstairs windows before sprinting to join the assault team.

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Hey,

I know you're all waiting on me, but I'm going to have to wait until tomorrow to get things moving. Last couple days I've been out the door at 630am and not home until after 10pm. I've got a free day tomorrow though. Sorry about the delay.

GM,
I will be making a sudden trip out of town until late Sunday.  I should be able to log in but won't be very active until next week.
Thanks!

I've had a couple of things come up so I probably wont be able to post again until Friday evening UK time.

Let me know if any one has any preferences / opinions on which option to take. My initial thought was to have Kessler and Ferro frag / clear the kitchen whilst Benucci / O’Brien / Babicevs clear the upstairs but I’m open to any other suggestions.

We will clear up

Cork, do you mean that we should all clear up, or are you agreeing with Dave. I'm worried that if we all clear up, someone from downstairs might shoot us in the back.

How about a couple of us cover the stairs while the others clear the downstairs. Then, we all clear the upstairs? Or, I'm ok with Dave's plan too since it's a bit quicker.

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In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg # 37):

I’m good with that if you prefer. If we do that I’d suggest two cover the stairs, two clear downstairs, and the fifth goes back outside to check on Tosh (preferably someone with at least some medical skill!)

Whatever option we go for I’ll also have Kessler bring the Krok in a bit closer so that it can hopefully put some fire onto the third house and we can get Tosh into it if necessary / practical.

In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg # 37):

We go up, they stay down

OK, there weren't any objections, so I went with the original plan of 2 up, 3 down.

@Cymon:


If you want O'Brien to do that instead just put it forward as a suggestion IC and Kessler will OK it.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 40):

Sure, will update now.

Do any of the upstairs windows face the building that Kessler and Ferro took fire from?

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Is there another can of .50 cal ammo on the HMMWV?

Yes, two bedrooms with south views (but not the one you are currently in).

Yes, along with the loaded can of 85 there is one of 105 rounds.

Does anyone know if a 40mm Illum grenade could be used as an improvised incendiary device? Varis has a few and we never seem to use them for their intended purpose (since most of us still have some form of NODs). I am trying to conserve his dwindling supply of 40mm HE rounds. I was thinking about trying to direct-fire one of his illum rounds into an enemy-held (wooden) structure and seeing what happens, but if there's little chance of success, it'd be a turn wasted. Thoughts?

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This message was lightly edited by the player at 00:05, Thu 29 Sept 2016.

While an Illum round will burn, unless the material you're firing at is combustible (dry leaves, super dry wood or building material) it will probably just burn itself out.  Still would be quite a distraction though.

Updated map. Note, there are no targets visible by anyone this turn.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/...0BdJJf_TUIyZ9b7yYU9Y

I'm thinking that we should try and keep on the offensive before the armoured column makes an appearance (I'm presuming Christensen would have said if he was expecting friendly reinforcements from Gdansk so the armour must be presumed to be hostile but when I post I'll have Kessler radio the Dane to confirm that).

How does everyone feel about the Krok group attempting to clear the third house (i.e. the one just south of the one we're currently in)? I'm thinking that Benucci, Babicevs, and O'Brien could make the initial breach this time as Kessler and Ferro took the lead the last time. We'll provide cover / follow up (subject to Ferro's wound status).

Alternatively we can regroup in the house we're currently occupying but my worry is that would a) give the armoured column more time to get here and b) give the other side time to regroup as well.

Let me know what you think - if anyone has any other suggestions just shout.

I'll try to get a post up tonight or tomorrow.  If we're going to stay, we can breach first.  We should try to limit grenades we use in case we need them later.

Going back to what Rae said earlier about using a 40mm ILLUM round as an improvised incendiary, does anyone have anything else that we can use to try start a fire in the other house? That way rather than forcing entry (and potentially taking more casualties) we could try and force them out? (Going forward we can look at making some molotov cocktails out of some of the bottles of disel that we have but that doesn't help us now)

I'm going to say that it'll be very unlikely it'll make a fire. It it were dry brush or grass, yeah ok, but a house not likely. It's not like WP or thermite.

I'm glad that Fuse clarified because I was going to suggest trying the illum round thing. If any one has a WP grenade, that should do the trick. Varis, unfortunately, is all out. Maybe there's something in the wooden box. It's my intention for Varis to investigate (carefully) the container once "our" house is secure. Perhaps now would be a good time?

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Frank has some grenades left up to and including a WP.  I'm trying to be as frugal as I can with them.

Was there anything in that closet upstairs and was Varis clearing it?

Fischer's got a 40mmS CS Gas that he hasn't used.  Perhaps they have masks, perhaps not, but fighting with that crap on is no fun.  Of course it means that it will be harder for us if we have to go in and clear them out.  Our militia friends almost certain don't have pro-masks.

I think fire is the best thing to use to get them out. As you say, gas has as many cons as pros.

@Corkman, I understand the wish to keep the WP grenade, but if we have to go in and clear that house we could end up paying in other ways.

What we need to do is set the whole house alight though, and relatively quickly. A slow burn in one room won't really work so I don't know if e a WP grenade would do the job?

If we don't have any options to try and force them out I guess we'll need to try the more direct approach and breach.

Our other option is to pull out, make for Przejazdowo and force the enemy to assault us in the defense, rather than for us to keep assaulting them.  If they opt not to follow us in but instead head for Wilślinka, we mount up and hit them in the rear as they make contact with the HMG team there.

Leaving the remaining forces here on a flank isn't ideal, but they will have wounded on hand, so it will tie them up to some extent.  Again, not ideal, but it beats losing more people trying to clear buildings.

Fire is the best way.

I found a 2nd one that I kept in my LBE buttpack so, I/we have [2] of them plus [2] frags and [1] smoker.

If we breach, I'm going to switch to the SPAS-12 I now have.  If Ferro needs ammo, let me know!

Did Tosh give back Frank his other 75 round drum for his weapon?

OK, so we've got a few options so far.

1. Pull out and head for Przejazdowo, leaving surviving enemy in place

2. Try to breach the third house, which carries a risk of suffering further casualties.

3. Try to force the enemy out of the third house by lobbing both of Frank's WP grenades into it (might be an idea if Varis also puts a 40mm ILLUM round into the upstairs at the same time - I know it probably won't cause any damage but the Russians inside won't know that, all they'll know is that something has gone off upstairs).

There's also the question of what McCarthy's group intend to do. I think Mark's plan to avoid breaching was to fire another CG round at their house although he'll need to confirm that's still his intent.

Does anyone have any preference as to what they want to do?

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Also, I meant to say earlier


This presumes that Babicevs didn't pick up the AK earlier when he was searching the body - I didn't see any indication that he had, he seemed to be concentrating on what was actually on the body, but if he has, strike that part.

Varis didn't pick up any weapons. He was after grenades, ammo for his 74, and other... stuff.

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In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg # 59):

That's what I figured...

I like Fischer's idea.

There may be another way to breach the house.

We could use the BTR to drive through a wall and knock it down. (Fuse, there's some footage on Youtube of Russian troops doing exactly that in Chechnya, so it looks possible?)

We could then go in behind it, hit them from a direction that they don't expect.

The Krok could do that easily without harm to itself, providing it didn't go straight through the house and down into any cellar basements (if there is one).

I'm cool with either idea. If we bug out, a combo of WP and CS should mess with the Ivans in the S. house badly enough to allow us to break contact relatively easily.

If we use the Krok as a battering ram and all clear the S. house together, I like our odds.

Varis only has 3 frags left but he also has two concussion grenades. How're the rest of the dismounts on hand grenades?

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In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg # 64):

3x FRAGS
3x DM-CS
2x Thermite
This message was last edited by the player at 19:07, Sat 01 Oct 2016.

In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg # 64):

[2] WP
[2] FRAG
[1] SMOKE

There are demo charges in the BMP I think.

I do intend to fire the CG at the southernmost house unless anyone objects.

I'm unclear about the movements of the southern armour group. The impression I have is that they are heading for Prezedow?? not us but I'm sure I'm wrong about that.

Heading for the IB unit in Prez... after linking up sounds like a potential plan so finishing off the combat here quickly sounds like a good idea.

I also like the odds and the chance to further weaken the Soviets prior to pulling out so I'll post IC something tomorrow to set this in motion (it's late here now). The plan will be for everyone who's able to take part (not sure how bad Ferro's wound is).


2 x smoke

There's nothing better to breach than an APC!

If we're going to still bug out after taking the second house, we should try to burn down the one we're in to deny its future use to the enemy. It would suck to have to come back and take the same structures again.

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Thinking more about this overnight (and taking Rae's point about denying the houses to the enemy later) this is where I got to.

1. The BTR will breach the third house by driving into it

2. Benucci, Babicevs, and O'Brien will form a three man stack to clear the house

3. Kessler will remain in the current house with Ferro and shoot anyone attempting to escape the third house by running into the second (this is to prevent us having to potentially retake the second house and also protect the wounded, particularly Tosh who is vulnerable to the risk of a Soviet running through the house and putting a burst into him).

4. If we are successful we can assess whether we are pulling out and if so what do to about the houses, e.g whether to burn them, use demo charges on them, knock them down with the BTR etc.

If no one sees any issues with that I'll post IC later. If someone else would rather stay in the house with Ferro instead of being in the stack just say and Kessler will swap places.

BUMP

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 71):

Sounds like a solid plan.

Frank will transition to the SPAS-12 for the stack/breach.

I want covering fire from the BTR and Kesler et al before we rush the breach.

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In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg # 74):

That was the general idea...
This message was last edited by the player at 21:51, Sun 02 Oct 2016.

Fuse - am I correct that Tosh is still unconscious?

Ta,

Andy.

Sorry, I forgot to roll for Tosh. Go ahead and roll up vs his Constitution. If it passes, he's no longer stunned, but still wounded of course.

Varis & Co are in a living room. It's furnished. There are two open doorways, one leading into a kitchen on the left, and another on the right into to what might be a hallway (where one enemy was shot). The active enemy is shooting through the wall and seems to be in the hallway.

Updated map...



https://www.google.com/maps/d/...0BdJJf_TUIyZ9b7yYU9Y

Do you still have the drum mag from Frank still or did you give it back to him?

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 78):

He only has his one on his sheet so I must have given it back.....

I've intentionally left situational awareness limited for McCarthy and Riedel. You don't have time to look to see what's happening beside or behind you. Your focus is to the front.

Fischer gets a better perspective, being further back, but some details for him are lost due to the trees.

Turn is complete. Please adjust for any ammo or grenades used.

Map - https://www.google.com/maps/d/...0BdJJf_TUIyZ9b7yYU9Y

The orchard breaks up the LOS too much for the Mad Dogs in the north to see what's going on there, but they can see the large (orange roof) barn/storage building, as well as the Krokodil on the road.


This message was last edited by the GM at 03:50, Thu 06 Oct 2016.

I was going to say just like David Beckham but the Twilight War would have well and truly scuppered his England career...

Alright so the current situation is fairly stable, though not over. I just thought I would summarize things here a little.

You have control of the western half of the hamlet. The eastern side still has some enemy in it, perhaps a squad or so hunkered down there, but they aren't causing trouble. They probably just want you to leave.

At least two enemy are unaccounted for down near where the Krankenwagon and Humvee are located. They were the guys seen breaking off from the initial charge, so they could be hiding in the large barn/storage building or out in the fields somewhere.

You have one prisoner who was found in the bathtub. Male, Soviet infantry Sergeant who looks like he may be from the Caucuses region. He's been shot in the forearm and no medical aid has been provided (he's got a bath towel wrapped around it).

The Humvee is mobile but limited, due to a punctured tire.

The Krankenwagon is immobile.

There are about half a platoon's worth of weapons and kit lying around. It will take time to go over all of the bodies in detail (as oppose to just picking up weapons for example). Just so you are aware.

Ferro has had first aid given, but not seen by an actual medic. Tosh has had no help yet and neither has Krupp. Marshall and Little are gone. The militia guys lost two of their own men.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:32, Fri 07 Oct 2016.

@Kessler: For the sake of not cluttering the IC, Varis asked Kessler about firing the house his team just captured (message #639). I still think that if we withdraw from the ville that we should burn down the structures we captured so that we don't have to clear them again.

@Frank, O'Brien: Varis already quickly searched at least a couple of the dead Russians but he probably didn't get them all and didn't thoroughly search any of the rooms.

@Fuse: What, if anything, did Varis find? He was mostly looking for grenades but you know Varis...

Thanks, all.

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This message was last edited by the player at 23:39, Fri 07 Oct 2016.

@Babicevs,

Have edited Msg 644 with a response to Babicevs' question.

@All,

After this post I'll be offline until sometime tomorrow barring the occasional check of my phone. To summarise Kessler's last couple of IC posts, intent is

1. O'Brien and Benucci continue search of third house then prep it for burning (if possible)

2. Babicevs preps second house for burning (if possible). Andropov can assist of required.

3. Kessler helps Ferro out of second house and to BTR (if she needs help). Kessler will then assist Babicevs in second house

4. Lines keeps an eye on prisoner

5. We then all move to link up with McCarthy's group, setting the houses alight as we go.

I hope that makes sense. If anyone wants to change anything feel free - I wont be around but presume that Kessler will OK any requests.

Also, if anyone can give Tosh a quick check over feel free (I would have done it but Kessler has no medical skill whatsoever)
This message was last edited by the player at 08:30, Sat 08 Oct 2016.

Fuse - where is Tosh's RPK?  Is it just lying next to him or has it been moved?  And was it obviously damaged in the grenade blast?

Ta,

Andy.

Just holding off on the turn while some things get sorted out behind the curtain. It's probably be up tomorrow night (late).

@All: I'm going to be off the grid from tomorrow morning until Thursday afternoon. Fuse, please NPC Varis as necessary.

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Delay until sometime Tuesday. Bit of an emergency here with wind and flooding. I just got power back so I haven't had a chance to get the game moving again. Tomorrow looks clear.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 89):

Understandable, good luck.

No worries and hope that everything is ok.

Andy.

No worries Fuse

Turn is up. Sorry about the delay. That nasty storm took out my power and dumped some record level amounts of water. My sons' school was flooded out and even some roads are just gone. It was a lot for something that wasn't even a hurricane (though it was influence by Matthew).

Ok so, this turn was kinda awkward to write. There was a lot going on but I have difficulty fleshing it out with detail. Basically you can tow the Krankenwagon with the BTR, but it'll be slow and you'll need to stick to the roads.

Also, Krupp will have been given first aid this turn, but I had to hold off doing the same for Ferro and Tosh. They aren't so bad though, so it won't have any real consequences.

If there's anything else you need clarification on just ask.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:47, Wed 12 Oct 2016.

Fuse, did the Krok group secure any weapons besides the AK Kessler picked up in Msg 614? Babicevs mentioned collecting weapons in Msg 635.

And does the AK that Kessler collected appear to be serviceable and were there any rounds in the magazine?

Cheers

Well I understood things to be rushed. Kessler mentioned two minutes and the orders by radio suggested urgency. With the setting of fires, moving wounded and prisoners, and looking for Intel (going through pockets), I figured there was little time or opportunity to start hauling out larger loot.

Half mag and looks serviceable.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:47, Wed 12 Oct 2016.

OK, the rifle can go into stores when you get a chance (stowed aboard the Krok).

He'll keep the magazine /  rounds to replace those expended during the battle.
This message was lightly edited by the player at 19:50, Wed 12 Oct 2016.

I'm sorry about not posting much, work's been mental and I have been sleeping in a colleague's house who lives close to work rather than waste time travelling, I've been trying to keep up in snatched minutes at work but the school firewall is blocking the IC thread and I can't read any of those posts. I wouldn't advise copying and pasting them because something in the words is catching the attention of our blocker.

I'll be back home on Friday but until then I'm pretty stuck.

Fuse, if you want to move quicker and have time to summarise events in a bland way that doesn't mention violence, I can post responses here in in PMs, otherwise, I'm blind until I get home on Friday.

I knew I should get into the 21st century and have one of those walkie talkie thingies.

Sorry.

Mark T.

No worries Mark. Message sent through. Hope it gets by the filter.

Added Kessler's rifle and items picked up by Frank to stores. Anything else you want to submit let me know.

Can Frank keep the [2] AA batteries for his weapon light and the tobacco for Ferro?  Everything else is good for stores.

Did Varis find any hand grenades of any kind? I know I was posting a lot of actions, but he should have had time to at least check the prisoner and one or two of the bodies in the third house.

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Rae, please remove the pipe, Swiss Army knife, silver ring, and surplus AK-74 from your inventory.

Electrical Tape (1/2 roll) and 2x AA Batteries are removed from stores. Add them to your relevant sheets.

Adding 1x RPG-7 and 1x HEAT round to stores (unless Varis is taking this as personal kit?)

I'll be putting up the turn late tomorrow night.

Already made most of the rolls and you succeed at moving the BMP to Przejazdowo*. I'll roll again for any subsequent tow attempts.

If there's anything you want to have happen or said before the PCs reach that waypoint, now is the time.




* If I understood things, you are moving to Przejazdowo with the IB armored column but are not staying at the outpost. Neither are the IB (they are just dropping off supplies and men). Shortly after arriving you are going to make a break for Gdansk.

When/How does your non-combatants group move? Are you waiting for them and moving together, or are you telling them to move up on their own?
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:27, Sun 16 Oct 2016.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 103):

I would think having them join us then we all move together would be the best bet unless anyone has a preference for doing it differently?

Having them join us makes sense, should they come to us in the besieged village or join us when we have come out and are on the 308(if that's the right road)?

Will Tosh have been treated by Riedel by then?

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 105):

Given the risk of mines might be better if everyone sticks to roads as much as possible (I think Fuse said the BTR would have to whilst towing the BMP).

I can't see the 308 on the map (I've zoomed in and out but not sure if it's one of the smaller ones and I've missed it) so how about if we head north to the 501 and link up with the main body there? They should be able to get some sort of escort from the IB contingent headed for Wislinksa.

Everyone then heads westbound along the 501 and heads into P?

501 sounds fine, some of it will depend on what the IB want to do but if they go off-road we'll have to leave them and stick to the 501.

Consider them treated while you were waiting for the supplies being unloaded (just now).

Dave, I'll remove the medical supplies Riedel uses.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:19, Mon 17 Oct 2016.

I forgot to add Billy was going to draw down another 75x 7.62×39mmB for the RPD, but it looks like we don't have any ?

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 110):

Correct, it's all gone.

I'm back. Just in time too.

I'm hoping we aren't too far from getting back to Gdansk now.

What if I post up arranging to meet our civilian vehicles just to the north where Cassidy can ship on the BMP with Riedel and help with casualties?

Meanwhile, get some interaction with the new characters and get someone to introduce them to JJ or Kessler.

I actually already linked both groups up and moved them together to Przejazdowo.

You want to change that?

No, that's even better, I can stick my nose in straight away now.

OK, suggested order of march for the next leg is

Iltis - On point / scouting ahead
Babicevs
Benucci
O'Brien

Humvee
Fischer
Price
Sims
Walsh

BTR
Andropov
Ferro
Kessler
Lines
Riedel
Cassidy (NPC)
Krupp (NPC)
Meyer (NPC)
Klinsi

BMP
McCarthy

Honker (all NPC)
Aleksandr
Anna
Fox
Janku

If the Honker's not operational those four can ride on top the BTR

Various civies are distributed around Tenza's vehicles

As always, not set in stone, so if anyone wants to change anything just shout (the logic is to try and separate PC's and NPC's as much as possible)

Shout if I've missed anyone!

Sorry, not trying to throw a wrench into this, just wanted to see if the CO needed to be freed up from babysitting the BMP.  Happy to drive the HMMWV also.

It's good to know, and I'm just trying to make sure that the new characters don't get stuck with shit jobs. Charlie's suggestion makes the best sense in real terms but games sometimes vary from that. :)

There are 300 rounds of 7.62mmS but it's all loose, no link.

Turn is up.

Before you post, please note where your PC is. Riding inside a vehicle for example may not allow any direct response to the threat.

Walsh has the 77 set manpack, so add it to your sheet if you haven't. Serial number is [#Y03]
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:34, Thu 20 Oct 2016.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 120):

Re: OOC Thread - 14

OK, suggested order of march for the next leg is

Iltis - On point / scouting ahead
Babicevs
Benucci
O'Brien

I get the impression that Varis is driving?  Correct me if I'm wrong?

The listing I posted just put everyone in alphabetical order by surname – no specific assignments were implied / inferred.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 122):

OK well Billy can be driving it that is easiest. I'll hold off posting until we know.

That works for me.  Not trying to be the pompous ass but, I figured Benucci was in the commander's seat.

And in Polish, the toilet tower is called - Gdanisko...  Here's a nice shot of it.

http://malbork.fotopolska.eu/26952,foto.html

Bit harsh to blame Ferro...

As discussed please can Tosh have taken 75x 7.62mmS rounds from the stores.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:52, Mon 24 Oct 2016.

Done.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 128):

Ta.

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Separate to this what distance roughly is Tosh from the railway carriage?

Ta,

Andy.

200m give or take.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 130):

Thanks
This message was last edited by the player at 17:17, Mon 24 Oct 2016.

Answered in game. Cheers.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:32, Thu 27 Oct 2016.

If we have Captain Little's Kevlar helmet then Tosh would like it.

He would also like to take the trousers from this in the stores: Fatigues, Set (USSR)

Ta,

Andy.

In reply to David 'Tosh' Lines (msg # 133):

Done. Add to your sheet.

FYI all, I'm away for a long weekend so my online time is limited.

Fuse,

Please can Tosh take another 50x 7.62mmS rounds from the stores.

Ta,

Andy.

In reply to David 'Tosh' Lines (msg # 135):

Done. Adjust your sheet.
This message was lightly edited by the GM at 05:22, Thu 03 Nov 2016.

@All, this would be a good time to ensure your PC sheets are sorted and up to date. Borrowed gear ought to be returned to stores as well.

I'd also ask that you review your current load weights. I'm not worried about every single kilo, but some of your webbing and packs are getting full. Probably more full than they should.

Thirdly, here is Marshall's gear. I'll post it here to be picked at before transferring it to stores.

M16A2
Vz-52 Pistol
Kevlar Helmet
Kevlar Vest
BDU's (Badly Bloodied & Torn)

Combat Webbing (ALICE):

Leather Pistol Holster
IFAK (first aid kit)
Bayonet
Gas Mask
5.56mmN 30rnd. Magazines (x5)
7.62mmT Vz-52 8rnd. Magazines (x2)
30rnd 9mm Magazines (x4)
NBCW suit (8kg)
Wire Cutters + Gloves (0.5kg + 0.5kg)
Compass

Pack:

Poncho
1x Collapsible water bladder w/750ml Diesel
7 grams of melted scrap gold
Some Silesia script money
Tools: Wheeled Vehicle Tools (80% complete)
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:40, Fri 04 Nov 2016.

If no one else needs them can Walsh take

Kevlar Helmet
Kevlar Vest
Gas Mask

Thanks

In reply to Chris Walsh (msg # 138):

Tosh was after a Kevlar helmet, ideally Alan Little's if that's still serviceable.  If it isn't then he would like to take Marshall's.  This will free up a steel helmet however.

Cymon - please can you post a list of Little's gear that we recover.

Ta,

Andy.

In reply to David 'Tosh' Lines (msg # 139):

OK, let's see whether Little's is serviceable or not (and whether anyone else needs anything).

Tosh was told he would get the next helmet

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 141):

Honestly, I really am not bothered. If there's two, fine I'll take whatever one Tosh doesn't want (provided no one else stakes a claim). If there's only one Tosh can have it.

Nothing personal, we'll find something suitable for you

In reply to David 'Tosh' Lines (msg # 139):

Here is the list. Billy has kept the demo gear and some trade items. IC Billy will not be happy with the new guys taking anything and will hand the radio to the Major for him to reissue. Of course once it has been in stores for a couple of days he probably won't care anymore.


Kevlar Vest  - Ceramic Plates - this is probably well busted
PLCE Assault Vest
PLCE Webbing
SAS Smock - Cold Weather Insert DPM
Combat boots, socks
Compass Pouch - Compass
Gas Mask - AVON FM12

SEM-52S Tac Radio [#X01]
Binoculars
Canteens, Canteen Cups x 2
This message was last edited by the player at 22:09, Thu 03 Nov 2016.

Also Fuse, I don't know if Ortega had left anything here or had any more gear elsewhere before we left?  Frank was going to go through it, respectfully of course, and do what needed to be done.  Unless, Major McCarthy wanted that detail?

Let's just make this easy and forget Walsh asked for anything.

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 144):

Billy,

Didn't Little have a helmet?  And a rifle and ammo?  Or have those been resolved elsewhere?

Ta,

Andy.

When he joined the group, Tomasz drew a set of Kevlar and a helmet. He's going to be at the compound fixing vehicles for the foreseeable future so I'll put them back into stores. Walsh can have those.

In reply to David 'Tosh' Lines (msg # 147):

No helmet and the rifle Billy will keep to trade for a replacement for his own weapon that is on the bottom of the river. The ammo will end up in stores I would expect.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:54, Thu 03 Nov 2016.

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 149):

Fair enough.  Thanks.

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Cork - Tosh would like to take Marshall's helmet if that's spare.

Ta,

Andy.

Done

Not necessary at all.  There should be a spare helmet anyways now that one is going back into inventory!

Fuse,

270x 5.56mmN for stores. Thanks.

Tosh - add: Kevlar Helmet
Tosh - remove: Steel Helmet (USSR)

Andropov - remove: Kevlar Helmet (US) & Kevlar Vest (US)

O'Brien - remove: 5.56mmNx270

Did I miss anything?

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I'm going to delay splitting Ortega's gear until the current gear exchanges is done, so things don't get all messed up again.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:19, Fri 04 Nov 2016.

Is anyone carrying a large amount of .45cal they dont want?

JJ has 18 rounds left for his M1911 if you need that.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 156):

No it's ok. Not looking to take from sidearm reloads just extra to fill SMG mags. Not a problem though because I still have 9mm SMG too.

OK, I'm thinking that for the next section we do something like this:

Group 1: NPC base work:
 JJ Lead general construction
 Fox  Help create composting toilets
 Meyer Assist Price in defensive works
 Aleksandr  Assist Price in defensive works
 Anna Help create composting toilets
 Auttenberg Assist Price in defensive works
 Price To lead the creation of more defences: this may start with the sandbags etc.

 Make sawdust latrines
 Fill sandbags
 Create wooden cribs that can be used like gambions
 Do what mechanical work we can on the vehicle in prep for spare parts.

 Group 2: Trade/Liaison
 Kessler
 Janku
 Riedel
 Fischer
 Ferro
 Sims

 Get the gear Kessler wants/needs to return to Germany
 Find spare parts
 Broker any deal with the Marians
 Find ammo and munitions
 Find Medical gear
 Pick up what clothing and body armour etc is available
 Discover trades of opportunity
 Possibly make links with IB if PCs want to
I'll add their capital soon.

 Group 3: Friends in Low Places:
 O'Brien
 Babicevs
 Benucci
 Walsh
 Kolstrup
 Lines
 Link up with the shady people we've dealt with before
 Visit places and locate more trades of opportunity (anything either useful or cheap)
This group will use some of the stuff we've pickedup but don't need to ease the way> I'll add a list soon.

In addition, I'll ask Kamineski to set up a meet with the Fishermen's League to arrange to trade some or most of the fuel for:

A stead supply of food and fuel for the winter
Fish oil

When people get back and suggest trading with the Marians I'll allocate some resources to that too.

What do people think?

Here's what I propose each team heads off with. The Low places team is quite light on stuff so if they hit a big potential deal they'll need to come back and get trade goods.

Note, if anyone thinks we shouldn't trade something off, say:

Low places:
Schnapps
Beer
Gold coins and amber ($150)
200 assorted rounds (I'm assuming these are incompatible with our weapons)

Main trade party:
600L diesel in bottles (try not to spend in more that 10L or so amounts to lower suspicions)
DSHK (Keep back unless something really nice presents itself)

Priorities are:
1) 14.5mm Ammo
2) 12.7mm Ammo (this drops if people are happy to sell the DSHK: traditionally the group have been very reluctant to part with heavy weapons)
3) AT munitions
4) The parts we need for the vehicles: see description for BMP plus a wheel assembly for the BTR and a wheel for the Humvee.
5) Other ammo or grenades
6) Medical supplies
7) Cold weather gear and bedding
8) Small arms ammo and grenades
9) Body armour and helmets (low because I'm assuming there won't be much, if there is, raise the priority)
10) Weapons needed to replace any lost ones

Can anybody think of anything else or a change in priorities?

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 159):

Couple of thoughts:

1. You may want to add mortar rounds to the shopping list

2. How about adding the following to items we're offering for sale? Provided no one has any objections of course.

Silver Coins (10$ Equiv) 5
Tobacco (Tin Box)       40
Tobacco (Plastic Box)    5
Sony Walkman (AA)        1
Paperback Novels         2

3.

I think we should take less, that way there's even less chance of arousing suspicion. No more than a hundred bottles. If we do come across a deal that warrants spending more we can use what we have as a deposit.

I also think we should use some of those bottles of fuel to make molotov cocktails. Either to sell or for our own use.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:47, Fri 04 Nov 2016.

How well does diesel burn? IIRC, not as well as gasoline/petrol. It might not make for very good Molotovs, but I could be wrong on that.

Per needs a Kevlar vest and helmet. I wrote him as mid-90s SOF, when body armor wasn't as common for recon teams, but given the nature of T2K, it'd be pretty crazy if I had him choose not to wear it.

Grenades, both hand-thrown and 40mmS should be a higher priority. Our last bout of CQB illustrated how hard building-clearing is without a liberal dosing of frags. And 40mm grenades (NATO and Soviet) are a force multiplier that comes in handy a lot. Varis, for one is running low.

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I never thought of that. A quick search produced this.

https://answers.yahoo.com/ques...0090210123347AAsmlR7

Maybe it needs a GM ruling?


There's currently a Kevlar Vest (French) and a Kevlar helmet (US) listed as being in stores. AFAIK they're both available for issue. Neither are Little's.


Agreed on all counts. Kessler is out of frags completely.

Billy is looking for the following:

40mmN

L1A1 rifle 16" barrel with SUIT optical sight and synthetic furniture. Though he will make do with a bare rifle as he has Little's sight.

or

Magazines for the G3 in stores and a scope with claw mount or a complete G3.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:30, Sat 05 Nov 2016.

Cool. Per would like to claim both of those items.

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Frank will need to check on his Para Ordnance has been repaired yet, if not, he will hold onto the Glock 17.

He will add the FB Wanad pistol with (1) 8 round magazine (9mmM)

He will also wait to see if Ferro wants any of the 12 Gauge ammo or the SPAS-12 from Ortega?  If not, probably going into unit stores.

Fuse, do you want me to post Ortega's gear now?  There are some. 45 ACP rounds, a G3 mag and a load of shotgun shells and slugs that people will find useful.

Ta,

Andy

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 158):

I think that groups 2 and 3 might each need a local who knows the city with them.  I think that's Aleksandr and Auttenberg but please correct me if I'm wrong.

Also who in group 3 is leading any large scale negotiations?
This message was last edited by the player at 13:40, Sat 05 Nov 2016.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 159):

Tosh would like to drink the beer and schnapps.....

Kaminski may have a still however.

Taking less fuel is fine, I'd sort of imagined that was your budget rather than taking it all at once but I stupidly didn't specify that, sorry.

Grenades and 40mm should be on the list, I agree.

On the L1a1, any particular colour?

As for local guides. We can send them but that means very little will get done at the base as most of the able bodied men are out. If we're happy living in an unsecured cess pit, that's fine.

Maybe the guide problem can be resolved by using a couple of Kaminski's people as guides? Granted, Kaminski may well want a percentage for their services but utilising them means they might also be able to facilitate introductions to people that can actually get us what we need.

Good point, or we could sub-contract Kamineski's boys to do some work and give our guys time off to go shopping. I hadn't thought of that.

The compound has a still but it's set up to produce ethanol (or it was). If Tosh wants to drink that we may need to look up the blindness rules.

Almost done the turn, but saw this and thought I would mention a couple things.

One issue with guides is transportation limitations. The Humvee only takes five and both outgoing groups already have six. I'm having Karel volunteer to stay behind and help with the work party (as an option), but adding a guide keeps the problem.

You could walk, as everything is within an hour's hike, but that's not practical if you have cargo.

Ferro can act as guide for her group. She has been in the city longer than anyone and knows it quite well. I can provide PMs to help any real world uncertainties.

Kolstrup probably knows enough to get around too, at least for any of the common and well known sites.

I'm fine with Ferro guiding group 2. It's a better option than leaving a PC behind.

Tosh can stay behind in the work party if you'd like.

Same with Per OR Varis. It's not fair that I have two PCs out and about whilst another player is stuck back at base.

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Well, the plan is for group three to walk, that way no one needs to miss out.

Karel is an NPC, all PCs who want to go are going. Hopefully with the NPC back at base and the booze team walking should solve transport problems.

Minor note, I forgot McCarthy planned to bury the dead. I'll edit that in later when I get home. Departure time will be adjusted to 1000hrs.

Ortega's gear that was left back at base:

Shotgun Shell Bandoleer (35 shell capacity) (0.5kg)
12 Gauge Shotgun Shells lose x30 (1.98kg)
12 Gauge Shotgun Slugs lose x39 (2.57kg)
US Issue Thermal Fatigues (5kg)
MRE x3 days (5.16kg)
Pair kitchen scissors (0.1kg)
Sunglasses, Polarized (Neg)
 - Hard Case (0.1kg)
Mircofibre Camping Bath Towel (0.2kg)
Bandanna (Green) (0.1kg)
Boonie Hat (US Army Woodland camouflage) (0.2kg)
7.62mmN 20rnd mag (empty) x1 (0.3kg)
.45 ACP rounds x20
Sleeping Bag, Modular (MSB) (3.1kg)

GM - Frank.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:53, Mon 07 Nov 2016.

Turn updated.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 159):

- .308 ammo for our high performance rifles, specialty if we can find some since we have a couple of them now.

- Frank dropped his Para-Ordnance for repair, he would like to check on that once they're done with unit business

Slightly weird question here but how much does JJM want for the Beer and the Schnapps?

Rather than trade them to someone outside the Mad Dogs Tosh might well buy them himself as he's got a couple of things to trade......

(Fuse - can you give us a value for them please?)

Additionally, Tosh has a couple of containers of salt that he picked up at some point.  Is that best added to the food supplies or traded?

Your mission takes you into at least one bar on two separate occasions. Add to that Gang Anjo's den of vice and you may have the opportunity to get boozed up without it.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 184):

Yea, but it's more cost effective to buy your own as well! <G>

Tosh has some stuff to pay for it and I was planning on him trying to buy some booze anyway so it'll be cheaper to pay for what we have in the stores (and the Mad Dogs will probably get a better value for it).

I should add that he'll probably be buying more anyway.......

Fuse,

Tosh is returning this to the stores:

RKG-3 Anti-tank Grenade

Ta,

Andy.

GM - Done.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:48, Mon 07 Nov 2016.

Kessler will put the anti tank grenade he got from Babicevs into stores as well.

GM - Done.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:47, Mon 07 Nov 2016.

Before I can sort out values for Group 2's trading (which we can do OOC instead of IC'ing it all) I need a master list of what you have to offer.

Turn updated again (last time).
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:55, Mon 07 Nov 2016.

AFAIK we have the following:

600L diesel (100 litres physically aboard the Humvee; we'd have to go back to base for the other 500)
DSHK Heavy Machine Gun
Silver Coins (10$ Equiv) 5
Tobacco (Tin Box)       40
Tobacco (Plastic Box)    5
Sony Walkman (AA)  1
Paperback Novels  2
Riedel's medical services, preferably treating minor ailments that wont require her to expend any medical supplies / drugs (I'm not ruling out expending said items but it would have to be worth it)

In addition Kessler has the following which he's potentially willing to include dependent on what's on offer

Camera, 35mm, professional w/ 36 exposure black and white film
Lens Set
Camera film x 2, 35mm black and white
Camera film x 1, 35mm, colour
Amber Beads x 3 (the ones he got from the BND guy when we picked up the Aufhocker)

Ok here are some relevant trade values:

Diesel - 35/L
DSHK Heavy Machine Gun - 1000
Silver Coins (10$ Equiv) - 25
Tobacco (All) - 60
Sony Walkman (AA)  - 15
Paperback Novels - 5
Camera (set) - 150
Amber Beads (all) - 30
Riedel's medical services - Not requested

14.5mm Belt of 50 - 60 (6 belts available - 6 more on fast order)
12.7mm Belt of 100 - 150 (12 belts available - 6 more on fast order)
Fragmentation Grenades - 15 (15 available)
Fragmentation Grenades (Local) - 10 (20 available)
AT Grenades (Local) - 15 (15 available)
M72 LAW - 200 (1 available)
RPG-7 HEAT - 75 (3 available)
5.45mmB or 7.62mmS Boxes of 500rnds ea. - 75 (practically unlimited)
5.56mmN or 7.62mmN Boxes of 500rnds ea. - 100 (6 boxes of each type available)
.45ACP Box of 50rnds ea. - 10 (2 boxes available)
40mmHE (NATO or WP) Local Builds - 20 (20 available  - 20 more on fast order)
81mm Mortar rounds - 250 (6 available - though you see they have more in stock)
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:24, Tue 08 Nov 2016.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 192):

I'm sure there's other stuff which people can add but off the top of my head and in no particular order of priority how about:

• Small arms ammo - particularly 5.45B, 7.62S, 7.62L, 5.56N, and .45ACP (for Ferro!)
• 40mm Grenade Launcher rounds, Soviet and NATO
• Cold weather gear  and bedding - might be an idea if anyone that needs this for their PC says so we know how much to get (if any)
• Mortar rounds
• Spare parts to repair the vehicles

Also, I could be wrong, but do we need a tripod for the AGS? If so would one be available (and 30mm grenades)?

Ok thanks. I'll include that later when I get home again.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 193):

Frank also uses .45 ACP Herr Kessler when he gets his gat back from repair.

In reply to Francis 'Frank' Benucci (msg # 195):

Sorry, that was meant to be at least slightly humorous. Several people use .45 including McCarthy and Walsh so whatever we can get will be available to anyone that needs it - I was just referencing the fact that Ferro had specifically mentioned it.

Billy has the following cold weather gear from Little's gear if anyone needs a set.

SAS smock with Arctic insert
4 season sleeping bag
poncho.

He also has the Laser Rangefinder that can go into the trade pot. Also I think there are a couple of 57mm HE-T rounds we can't use.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:17, Mon 07 Nov 2016.

No worries...

Group 3, to keep things from getting stretched out time wise, try to include as much dialogue in one post (instead of waiting for a response to every statement).

Group 2 trade values updated.
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:25, Tue 08 Nov 2016.

Dear all - is anyone having trouble seeing the Cast List descriptions?  I can't see Tosh's and I've noticed that there are several others that now appear blank.  When I go to edit Tosh's it's there so it's not been deleted, it's just not visible, so I think that there is a bug with RPOL.  I've mentioned this to Fuse and he also can't see some Cast List descriptions.

I can't see the following:

Billy
Tosh
Kessler
Riedel
Meyer
Janku

I'm sure that all of them had entries but they're not visible to me.....

Very weird.

Does anyone else have this issue?  I'll go and raise it on the Technical Forum but I wanted to see how widespread it was first.

Ta,

Andy.

Yes, it's been happening for about a month or so.  Remove all your special characters (umlats, etc.) and make sure all your ' " and similar marks are deleted and re-entered and it should come up.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:24, Tue 08 Nov 2016.

In reply to Lukas Fischer (msg # 201):

Thanks - that fixed it for Tosh.

If possible Tosh would like a second drum mag for his RPK and a satchel/drum pouch to carry it in.

Ta,

Andy.

Ok, 600 litres of fuel @ USD35 per litre equals USD21000. So basically we can buy everything available (including the stuff on order) using the fuel only:

14.5mm – 60 x 12 = 720
12.7mm – 18 x 150= 2700
Frag Grenades – 15 x 15 = 225
Frag Grenades (local) – 10 x 20 = 200
AT Grenades - 15 x 15 = 225
M72 LAW – 200 x 1 = 200
RPG7 HEAT – 75 x 3 = 225
.45ACP – 10 x 2 = 20
7.62N – 100 x 6 = 600
40mm HE 20 x 40 = 800
Mortar rounds 250 x 6 = 1500

That comes to USD 7415 (if anyone wants to double check my maths feel free!)

Presume everyone is happy with that?

Ten boxes of 5.45 and ten boxes of 7.62S would cost another 1500, so a total of USD8915, and gives us 5,000 rounds of each as a stockpile. Is that enough or do you want more?

Do we need 5.56N? (Those of you using 5.56N, this might be a good time to consider switching to a Bloc calibre for ease of resupply – the Bloc calibre is easier to come by (and cheaper) in Gdansk and there’s more chance of picking it up after firefights. There is currently 1 x AK74 in stores if anyone wants it). I’ve included the 7.62N primarily for the machine gun (we already have 1200 rounds in stores).

A spend of USD8915 (not including any 5.56N) @USD35 per litre equates to 255 litres (rounded up), so we can effectively pay half (more or less) now and half later. @Fuse if anyone queries where the fuel came from, Kessler’s cover story is that it was drained from the engine of a busted vehicle.

I’ll follow up on the extra mortar rounds that aren’t for sale IC.

Lukas will need the AK-74 in storage unless he can get a replacement gas tube for his current weapon.

Charlie has a 5.56 weapon and I'll probably transition him to an AK series rifle once that runs dry.

For the purchases, I'd propose trading out all the ash and trash stuff (camera, walkman, novels, etc.), keep the Dushka and the coinage, then dig into the diesel to pay for the rest.  Might as well clear out surplus inventory and less than useful items.

I'm not on top of the maths of this but do we have enough for the food we need to sustain everyone for a couple of months over winter?

Also don't forget Valeska - she's tended to be a good source of rarer, high tech weaponry.

Well, we recovered a little over 6,000 litres of diesel. I’m not sure what splits with others (Kaminski?) were agreed beforehand as that was before I joined the game, but this represents a little less than 5% of that total and gives us a number of things that were on our wish list.

I don’t think anyone has been tasked with speaking to Valeska – I’m not sure she’s been mentioned as a possible source up until now either IC or OOC? I’m not sure what sort of rare high tech weaponry you want though – I’ve been primarily thinking about things we would need to defend the compound from an infantry assault - grenades, grenade launcher rounds, small arms and large calibre ammo, etc.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 207):

Sorry - just to be clear I agree with buying this equipment.  I was just mentioning that there's another potential source that we should explore as well in the long term.

And it sounds like we should have plenty for a decent amount of food as well.  I think that it's important to build up a stockpile of preserved food in case of any long duration trips.

You have about 3400L as your share. And if anyone is wondering that represents more than enough food and heating fuel for your large group to get through the winter, even if the value decreases quite a bit more than what you may be expecting.

Preserved food may be difficult to get in large amounts. A deal will probably see weekly deliveries of food, mostly fresh.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:33, Tue 08 Nov 2016.

Thanks for the info.

One thing that we might want to consider is trading some fuel for small items that we can then trade on more easily.  I'm thinking of stuff like:

Batteries
Cigarettes
Luxury food like chocolate and coffee
Medical supplies

Does this sound like a good idea?

In reply to David 'Tosh' Lines (msg # 210):

Sounds like a good idea to me (although we may be better keeping any medical supplies that we can lay our hands on - Group 2's next stop if the Marians and medical supplies is on our wish list).

I'd also include booze in the luxury food - beer and spirits. Condoms are usually handy to trade as well.

A few random thoughts:

1) Winter is coming - The enemy offense should slow down during the winter.  This may mean a reduction in vehicle fuel usage along with small arms and heavy weapon ammunition expenditures.  We are likely at the peak of the market for these types of goods.  Fresh food, especially fall harvest foods (Apples, Squashes, Pumpkins, etc.) are probably at their lowest price points.  Round about December/January, food prices are likely to increase as stock run out for the ill prepared.

2) Spring follows winter - Assuming the factories have access to enough raw material now, production over the winter time should lower the price of ammunition as stockpiles increase.  Without raw materials however, they may sit idle or have reduce capacity, creating a pricing floor.  Still, as Winter progresses, folks may realize you can't eat ammo, and bartering for food may create value in this area.

In any event, it's probably good to consider what local markets are likely to do over the next few months.

3) It takes money to make money - usually with a windfall, the best strategy is to wisely invest the gain/earnings (verses blowing it all like a drunken sailor).  We may wish to look for ways to generate recurring income if possible.  I'm not proposing RPing running a Dwuga street bar or whatever (that's what NPCs are for), but backing some entrepreneurial endeavor might be an option (plus it builds RP hooks, etc.).  Gdansk is a city full of un/underemployed ship and boat builders. So one thing that comes to mind is commissioning a new fishing boat in coordination with FL.  Or working with the Merchant's Union to open/reopen a factory.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:55, Tue 08 Nov 2016.

In reply to Lukas Fischer (msg # 212):

Some good points in this discussion and they've reminded me of a couple of other things that Ortega was considering.

Firstly I believe that there is a sunken boat attached to one of the docks next to our compound.  My idea was that we try to refloat it, repair it and then either use it or trade it.  That's presuming that it's in good enough condition to make that worthwhile.

Secondly there were a number of good scavenging sites around our compound.  Kaminski's people have obviously been working on them but it might be a good use of time to check them out further.

Another option might be trying to work with the Marians and what they're doing with bringing the abandoned farms back on line. How feasible that is I don't know and they do seem to be a non profit type of organisation, but it might be a good option for the more morally minded PC's.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 214):

I like that as a player (Tosh wouldn't.....) but isn't that more of something for the spring?

I'm good on all the purchases Dave has suggested. On top of those, we'll need a recurring food source, which is why I'm trying to set up a deal with the FL, the risk with such a thing is that we might get gypped later on as food gets scarcer, we may need to renegotiate later.

Picking up any surplus produce now and trying to preserve it is a reasonable idea, better if we can access the skills: we may need to hire on some babooshkas.

Having a boat would be a great idea, rather than salvaging I'd suggest we reserve some of the diesel and think about a mission that might make winter a bit more interesting and still irritate the enemy: nicking a boat from Gydina (jut putting it out there).

As for a recurring source of income, I'd suggest resurrecting Krupp's idea of fish oil. If we deal for food with the IB we could also deal for weekly deliveries of the waste products of the fish. We buy a press and a boiler and we can start squeezing fish oil. Then we sell the remaining solid residue as fertilizer or fodder and use the oil to make fuel by mixing it with the alcohol we're brewing, we could even stretch the diesel out by cutting it with fish oil.

That has two advantages:
1) we make fuel we can sell
2) we have fuel for our vehicles

Salvaging is also an idea but I want to have some time to cross train as well.

Long term, making a deal with the Marians where we trade some fuel for medical aid and some food is good for the winter and if we survive to spring we might offer our military services to help secure the farms they want to re-occupy. Offering our services as escorts may be useful too, we've seen a bunch of dead Marians and rescued Cassidy, they need protection.

What do people think, should we explore some of these ideas?

Or we could re-finance Kamineski's sex empire by using Varis as a gigolo for hire.

Weapons wise we have:
5 x 5.56mmN
4 x 7.62mmN
9 x 5.45mmB
7 x 9mmP
1 x 7.62mmS
4 x .45ACP
2 x 7.62mmT
2 x 9mmM
1 x .32 ACP

Grenade Launchers:
3 x 40mmN
3 x 40mmS

If we're going to switch over to Soviet weapons I'd suggest we keep the 7.62mmN weapons as they have better accuracy so we'd need to buy what we can of that. Dropping the five NATO assault rifles would let us pick up more Soviet rifles: I'd suggest we try to find 7.62mmS weapons to spread the ammo, ideally I'd like to pick up RPKs is we can but AKMs will be fine.

If anyone is wedded to their Western AR we could also consolidate ammo we have in fewer weapons.

I'd be happy to switch to Soviet gear.

Just flagging this again if you're buying anything more from the MU guys......

I hate to do this during negotiations but, please NPC me until about Thursday or Friday  due to my work schedule this week.  I'll try to check in as I can.  PM me if there is an issue you may need Frank to address.

Regards and apologies,
John

OK, Fuse, can we add in

1 x drum mag for an RPK and a satchel/drum pouch to carry it in.
1 x set cold weather fatigues (Polish)
2 x sets cold weather fatigues (whatever's available)

If anyone else wants any clothing, LBE, etc (or if I've missed anything) shout out so we can get the prices for it (anyone in group 2, you can also raise it IC if you prefer)

I genuinely thought we had more people than that using 7.62S - I know there's a listing in the stores thread but I don't think it's up to date (e.g. it's got O'Brien using an L1A1). IIRC Lines and O'Brien both drew 7.62S from stores recently and Walsh also uses 7.62S.


I agree with all of that. We're going to have to go back to the market IC to pick up the stuff that's on order so if anyone with a NATO weapon wants to swap for a Pact weapon if you say so here and we can try and sort out OOC. If you're quite happy with a NATO weapon that's fine.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 221):

Billy has an RPD and Tosh has an RPK.

Frank also has an AKM I believe.

If we're going to try to buy information, we should be clear on what we already know, and on what we need or would like to know.

Fuse, what's the current operational/tactical situation regarding the siege?

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In reply to David 'Tosh' Lines (msg # 222):

Billy was looking to reacquiring another nato weapon to use up the ammunition he has and then trading it off. He is happy to continue using the RPD. Could his shopping list be added to any negotiations as well ? Thanks.

L1A1 rifle, bipod and L2A2 SUIT optic or bare rifle
G3 magazines, scope and mount, bipod or G3 rifle with these bits
7.62mmN armour piercing M61 or M993
40mmN grenades
M34 WP and ANM-14 Thermite grenades
Rifle Grenades - NATO or USSR
Demo gear, M5 Pressure-release firing devices, M10 Universal Destructors, M605 Trip Fuses, M81 shock tube Igniters, TNT blocks, C4 blocks or Russian equivalent.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 216):

Was going to add I really like these ideas, very feasible so Billy is in.

Also there was the red cross barge that was marooned near the channel entrance.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:54, Tue 08 Nov 2016.

Spartan's Wish List
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Gas Tube for AK-74 series rifle
75-round Drum Magazine with Pouch for RPK
Battery Box for AN/PVS-4 Starlight Scope
.50 cal or 7.62mmN or 5.56mmN Aiming reticle for AN/PVS-4 Starlight Scope (whatever might be found)
M18, MON-50, or similar Anti-Personnel Mines
This message was last edited by the player at 00:31, Wed 09 Nov 2016.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 221):

Frank is 7.62S with his AKM

I'd forgotten about this.  Please can someone remind me of the details.

In reply to David 'Tosh' Lines (msg # 228):



Message #900 Ch.14 Northern Poland - The Lure of Diesel Thread.

In reply to Billy 'Crack' O'Brien  (msg # 229):

Thanks for this.

Fuse, if possible please can you mark this location on the map?

Ta,

Andy

I believe that this red cross barge is near Elblag so I don't think that's feasible unless we're going in that direction for another reason.

That's back at Elblag, north of the city on the lagoon.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:38, Wed 09 Nov 2016.

This is what's on Kessler's list (sounds like a film) - Fuse, can we get availability / costs?

2 x drum mag for an RPK and a satchel/drum pouch to carry it in (Lines x 1, Fischer x 1)
1 x set cold weather fatigues (Polish Army camo)
2 x sets cold weather fatigues (whatever's available)
L1A1 rifle, bipod and L2A2 SUIT optic or bare rifle
G3 magazines, scope and mount, bipod or G3 rifle with these bits
7.62mmN armour piercing M61 or M993
40mmN grenades  - AFAIK we've already bought all the grenade launcher rounds available
M34 WP and ANM-14 Thermite grenades
Rifle Grenades - NATO or USSR
Demo gear, M5 Pressure-release firing devices, M10 Universal Destructors, M605 Trip Fuses, M81 shock tube Igniters, TNT blocks, C4 blocks or Russian equivalent.
Gas Tube for AK-74 series rifle
Battery Box for AN/PVS-4 Starlight Scope
.50 cal or 7.62mmN or 5.56mmN Aiming reticle for AN/PVS-4 Starlight Scope (whatever might be found)
M18, MON-50, or similar Anti-Personnel Mines
Batteries
Cigarettes
Luxury food - chocolate / coffee / alcohol etc
Medical supplies
This message was last edited by the player at 18:32, Wed 09 Nov 2016.

Drum mag for an RPK and a satchel/drum pouch - 25 (x3)
Cold weather fatigues (Polish Army camo) - 150
Cold weather fatigues (whatever's available) - 150 (x2)
G3 Rifle (Basic) - 600
M34 WP and ANM-14 Thermite grenades - 20 (x2)
Dynamite (Burn Fuse) - 1300 [case of 100] (x2)
M18, MON-50, or similar Anti-Personnel Mines - 225 [case of 4] (x20)
Batteries - 30 [Random Type & Boost] (x3)
Cigarettes - 30 [Bag of 20] x4
Luxury food - 15/kg (x5)
Postwar Dressing 'Kit' - 75 x10

Gas Tube for AK-74 series rifle - there's a gunsmith with a shop in the open air market. You passed him on the way in. He does repairs (1-3 days wait).
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:58, Wed 09 Nov 2016.

Adding to stores (initial purchase)

14.5mm – x600
12.7mm – x1800
Frag Grenades – x15
Frag Grenades (Local) – x20
AT Grenades (Local) - x15
M72 LAW – x1
RPG7 HEAT – x3
.45ACP – x100
7.62N – 3000*
40mmN HE - x20
40mmS HE - x20
81mm Mortar rounds - x6

Removing 215L

* Need to know if the 7.62mmN was loose or link. Link costs a little more.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:21, Wed 09 Nov 2016.

Kessler will take all three sets (they're not all for him - one set is for McCarthy and one is for Andropov)

I'll leave it to everyone else that had requested items to confirm what they want (and how many). I presume everyone is happy to continue using fuel to pay?


Anyone have any preference or do you just want to do a 50/50 split? (We already have 1200 in Link in stores)

Also, can Kessler take 2 of those frags? (He's completely out of them).

What about 2000 link and 1000 loose? We can always strip the links f we need more loose but can't do vice versa.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 237):

Works for me. Not including O'Brien's potential purchase I think the only people using 7.62N might be Kolstrup, Sims, and Fox and the latter two shouldn't get through huge amounts).

Done.

FYI I'm about to move things on for everyone. Moving things to other locations, I mean.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:27, Wed 09 Nov 2016.

Apologies for being late, 9mmP Subsonic and Franks Para-Ordnance pistol being repaired?
This message was last edited by the player at 20:35, Wed 09 Nov 2016.

Pistol is repaired, will be picked up by Ferro.

My perspective on this list is as follows.

We should buy the following:

 - Drum mag for an RPK and a satchel/drum pouch - 25 (x3) - JJM was talking about getting an additional RPK so getting an extra one of these sounds good.

 - Batteries - 30 [Random Type & Boost] (x3) - rather than for trade we could do with these for our radios

 - Cigarettes - 30 [Bag of 20] x4

 - Luxury food - 15/kg (x5) - if this is preserved food it's worth buying and keeping

 - Postwar Dressing 'Kit' - 75 x10


How many mags does this come with?

It doesn't come with any.

Don't worry about the G3 there is one back at base he can use. Could Billy get the WP and Thermite grenades ? Thanks.

I am sure someone posted a list of the sites Group 3 were traveling to and now I can't find it could someone repost it here ?

Edit found it:


"I'd suggest the following timetable:
09.30: Memorial Service
 10.00: Walk to Gang Anjo
 11.00: Chat with Gang Anjo if they can be found
 13:00: Leave Gang Anjo to see if the bars have any lunch action
 13.30: Get to bars
 15.00: Leave bars after some lunch, booze and chat
 15.30: Hit the day markets for some personal shopping
 18.00: Hit bars for evening trade and dinner
 20.00: Visit Night Market
 22.00: Come home and be debriefed."

Just added a last piece of dialog to my post.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:51, Wed 09 Nov 2016.

Fischer will draw 167 rounds of 7.62mmS ammo from stores for this RPK and transition to that weapon system while the AK-74M is being repaired.

In reply to Lukas Fischer (msg # 246):

Done. Adjust your sheet.

Fish Oil production.

I have gathered together some ideas for a business, some of the estimates may be different when Fuse calculates them in reality so the figures may not add up to profit if the raw materials are substantially more expensive.
Assumes we can buy 1000kg of fish waste per week from the FL. At present it goes at about $50 per tonne (2016). It also assumes we can get a supply of 250kg of wood every week (this would be enough for the process and heating and the still).

1) Boiler: Fish is cooked in an oil drum in batches of 50kg (1 hour)
2) Liquor is strained and pressed (1 hour)
3) Liquid is drained to a storage tank (10 mins)
4) Solid is placed in a drier (30 mins)
5) In the storage tank, the liquid is left to settle and the oil is drained away from the top (2 hours)
6) Solid is dried in an oil drum (24 hours)
7) Product is ground up and bagged.
I reckon the process would need 3 people for 2 hours per 50kg and one watching the drier overnight.
Working at 10% efficiency of collection we should get 40kg of fish meal and 40l of fish oil per day. The fish oil would need to be cut with alcohol fuel with a ratio of 4 fish oil to 1 alcohol. It should produce fuel that is better than alcohol but not as good as diesel, I’d guess 2.5 rather than 3.5 so it’d be worth the effort. If diesel is $35 per litre, the product should retail at about $14.
Cost calculations:
250kg wood: $625 (assumes $2.5 per kilo of wood: a massive price today)
1000 kg fish waste: $100 (waste on a fish is 50% of weight, assuming the FL catch about 5 tonnes of fish a week this should be an easy ask)(price assumes double today’s)
Labour: $750
Alcohol 20l: Free from still
Total: $1475
Produces:
200 kg fish meal: ???
220l fuel: $3080
Profit if we sell at retail: $1605 (Would feed a fair number of us, especially if we’re saving up and using it to buy surpluses in spring.)
Profit if we wholesale at 25% discount: $805
There are additional benefits: we effectively get cooking, heating and the still for free.
$805 profit is modest but should help us feed ourselves. If people are enthusiastic about it, we can scale up as the only specialist kit is the press. If we can find a better drier and a centrifuge, we can add even more capacity or cut labour costs. The fish meal is a bonus but probably won’t fetch much; we may just donate it to the Marians as a loss leader. We can also cut costs by doing some of the labour ourselves.
There’s also overcapacity: if we can get more wood and fish waste we could probably increase production by 50% for the same costs.
The fish oil could also be purer and thus more energetic but we’d need a chemist to design the process. If Krupp survives and wants to rejoin that would be his gig.

What we need:
Oil drums for cooker, drier and storage: 10
Some large fuel storage container. (if there’s a problem we can use alcohol to scrub out empty fuel drums)
A screw press (preferably stainless steel) with about a 100kg capacity.

Bonuses:
A 50-60kg centrifuge (would need a 5KW genny to power it: only needs 2 hours a day at the projected capacity).

Alternately over the winter we could produce 3520 litres of fuel which could be used in a boat to reach Germany or the 8th if we get information on them, a cabin cruiser or fishing boat wouldn’t be too thirsty, my best guess without my books to hand is a range of about 500-600km on it and the boat wouldn’t need to be converted to alcohol so we might be able to pick up a bargain. That range could get us to Ventspils in Estonia, Stockholm or Straslund. Personally I prefer expanding the business, it appeals to my enthusiasm for trying to rebuild.
Other uses for fish oil:
Cooking oil for the winter
Production of soap
Vitamin supplements (I can see Kamineski peddling OMEGA-3 capsules like a snake oil salesman)
The fish meal could keep nearly six pigs alive, especially if we add kitchen waste to their diet. Each hog could be slaughtered for fresh meat as we go along.

The benefit of this is that it has a low initial cost set up and can be scaled up if we wish. It also produces something we can use if we don’t want to sell it. At minimum profits assuming a 16 week run before we start travelling far afield again we’d have accumulated $12,800 at my estimates and that’s if we use bottom projections.
It would also leave us, hopefully, with enough diesel to take opportunities for good deals in the winter: that will depend on how much people want to feed us though.
Sorry for the long post, but if we go this route we’ll need to give Fuse a decent idea of what’s going on.

What do people think?

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 248):

This sounds like a good idea to me.  Presumably we'd have to share the profit with Kaminski as we'll set this production facility up at his compound?  I imagine that he'd be happy to let us do this because if we can get it working and then eventually leave Gdansk he'll be able to take it over as a viable business.  Additionally he'd probably be able to find a couple of people to provide the labour when we're not able to.  Hopefully Krupp survives to improve the production efficiency and to take charge of running the business.

How much space would this take and is there a good location to use at the compound?

Also how much of a stink of fish is this going to make?  Do we need to set the production facility up away from our living quarters to prevent them being stunk out by the smell of fish?

Fuse,

Please can you give me the price of a hot meal with a beer in Ganymede and the price of a large beer in the DMZ.

I'll then work out how much Tosh spends..... <G>

Ta,

Andy.

Just to double check, at Ganymede and The DMZ are Per, Varis, Billy, Frank and Tosh.  Correct?

Or has Chris joined them as well now?

I don't believe Chris has joined them. Unless they were planning on meeting up with you they are gone.

Silver coin - 15
Voucher (?) - 10
Packet w/50 seeds - 5
Packet w/50g Salt - 14
Pill Bottle w/25g Salt - 7
Disposable Lighter - 2
Packet of powdered gravy mix - 1

Ganymede hot plate - 10
Ganymede glass of beer - 3
DMZ glass of beer - 2

Correct - Chris has gone back to base.

In reply to John Jameson McCarthy (msg # 248):

All for it if we can get NPCs to do the work (and clean, etc.).  FYI - Babcha/Babcia = Babushka in Polish...

Finding labour shouldn't be an issue though the FL may well be using all of their waste products. If they are there's no point following it up. What else could we do?

Having a Chemist might give us a comparative advantage in this market.  Of course if he dies, then perhaps not so much.  The key question is - what do we have or what can we make or service, that gives us an economic edge over someone else?  Firstly we have fuel - which we could trade to buy-in to another enterprise.

My assumption is that this economy is so tight, that you either work, or you die of starvation.  So all the boats that can float, are being used as a means of production (fishing, pirating, whatever).  So we can use the fuel to pay labor to build a new boat for fishing (or pirating..).  Or we use the fuel to keep starving farms alive to then farm for us in a colony/village.  Or we use to fuel to buy a boiler and wood fuel and grinder and hire babchas to make fish oil, which our Chemist magically transforms in to fuel.  Whatever.

Otherwise our comparative advantage is that we mercenary better than most mercs, or we self-select high-value/payoff missions than most units/people do (like the fuel dump) and we do those jobs.  In that case, investing the entire windfall in ammo, weapons, vehicle repairs, etc is a good plan (followed by heading out on another mission when we are ready).

I just don't want to see the unit blow through this fuel to get a bunch of weird loot, then stay in the barracks on half-rations and not go out on adventures.  Either invest in something that gives us enough disposable income food, so we can adventure without worrying about it, or just buy enough food so we can adventure without worrying about it.

OK, so unless I've missed anything I think we wanted all of the items in red? No one mentioned the anti personnel mines so I decided to get two boxes (eight mines). If anyone disagrees you need to shout.

By my count that's another 2050 litres. I think it would be prudent to call it quits for now before any suspicions are raised about the source of the fuel.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 257):

Sorry, those are pressure mines only. There's no directional/trip mines in stock. That's my fault, I misread the item.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:44, Thu 10 Nov 2016.

That doesn't sound right. 2000 liters of diesel for just that list?
This message was last edited by the player at 19:49, Thu 10 Nov 2016.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 258):

I thought you had a helluva lot of them and they were going cheap!

OK, in that case cancel the mines from the order. We've already got some and I don't want to spend too much fuel in the same place unnecessarily.


Blame excel! To be fair, I thought it was a lot too but the medical supplies are 750 and the mines (which we're now not buying) and the clothes were another 900.

The dressings are madness.  1/3 of the cost.  Buy sheets, boil them, and make dressings FFS.  Drop the mines for sure, since AP mines were for base defense and pressure trip mines aren't worth it.

PS: Also buy honey. It can be used for emergency food and to heal wounds as well.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:54, Thu 10 Nov 2016.

They were medical 'kits', basically cheap versions of the IFAK listed in the game (for $100). They are a wad of field dressing, triangular bandage, and tiny packet of natural antiseptic, kept in a water resistant package.

Not as good as proper prewar IFAKs, but better than just a (exposed) field dressing.

Just in case you were wondering about the price.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:01, Thu 10 Nov 2016.

Previously I think that we made something like these ourselves.  If we buy/make the bits could Riedel put them together?  If she can't then we should buy these.  If she can then we should just buy the bits.

FYI, I've just edited Tosh's last IC post (#856) to detail what food and drink he's consumed and what he's traded for it.

Ta,

Andy.

In reply to David 'Tosh' Lines (msg # 263):

Those were just makeshift field dressings.

In reply to David 'Tosh' Lines (msg # 264):

Thanks

I’m tempted to have Kessler tell the Marians that we don’t want any payment for returning Cassidy but if they want to give us something they can extend our credit in case we need their medical services in the future. To my mind that may build some goodwill and it’s something we can cash in at a later time if we need to.

Anyone have any thoughts / objections?

I am ok with that.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 266):

Completely agree.  Good idea.

JJ would be in agreement: refusing a gift is impolite however: thank her profusely for it and ask if she has any people who would be deserving of the stuff and say we'd like to donate it to help support them.

I wouldn't even suggest extending credit except by donating some more to the Marians: good will is priceless, medical services we can pay for.

How does that sound?

Beside, Varis would only stick something unmentionable in the jam...

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 266):

Agree.

agreed

Just a question did we put down we were looking 30mm grenades and a tripod for the AGS-17 ?
This message was last edited by the player at 20:47, Fri 11 Nov 2016.

Is Per with Tosh etc in the bars?

I haven't been posting much this week but, Frank is there as well if it makes a difference.  I should be able to post this weekend.  I need to go back over the posts too.

Yes. I haven't posted IC since I haven't really had anything substantial to add. I hope I haven't missed an IC question or comment directed at him. If I have, my apologies. I shall go back and reread the last few posts and respond if addressed.

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Per/Frank,

I don't think that there's anything specific for you that you've missed.  I was just double checking as I wasn't sure.

Ta,

Andy

Yep, we did. There were a few other things as well, most notably 7.62mm L ammo for the PK's (the one in stores and the BTR's coax). As they weren't mentioned I'd presumed they weren't available.


To be fair, I think we've spent enough diesel in one place for now anyway so maybe best to try somewhere else for the things we've missed. Andy raised Valeska as an option?

Valeska is also someone who might take a commission to find a particular item.

The rumors paint a bleak, hopeless picture of Gdansk's future. It's starting to seem that we are at a crossroads, plot-wise. Are we to stay and continue to fight for the city or are we going to abandon ship before it goes completely under?

It sounds like, short-mid-term, we are going to stay put. Leaving during the winter entails additional risks. On the other hand, the fighting is likely to die down somewhat- I imagine that the surviving armies of 2000-2001 are going to return to a pre-industrial pattern of warfare, suspending most combat operations and going into winter quarters until spring. This might be a good time to either get out of dodge (if we're going to leave) OR to raid and harass the besieging forces if we're going to stay and see it through.

If Malbork is causing trouble for the city, should we try to raid the Soviet Frontal HQ there? Perhaps the Polish garrison there could be convinced to turn on their Soviet overlords.

What about securing alliances with other emerging powers in the region? The PFC isn't that far away and would probably like to bring Gdansk into its orbit. Are there any other emerging polities in the region that might want to ally with Gdansk?

Since the city has an active fishing fleet, I imagine that contact with the rest of the Baltic rim is possible via sea travel. Might Germany want to support the city's resistance as an eastern buffer against Soviet aggression?

Is there something that we can do to help the city's economy? It seems to me that a working currency system could help with IB retention and morale, and perhaps could tempt other mercenary groups into fighting for the city? Wouldn't it be kick ass if we could get a company of Norwegians and/or Swedes to come fight for Independent Gdansk? Could we retrieve some tech that would make counterfeiting much more difficult? Could we take out known counterfeiters, make an example of them?

I've grown quite fond of Fuse's Gdansk and I would hate to have to abandon it to fate.

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This message was last edited by the player at 23:33, Sat 12 Nov 2016.

In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 279):

Per would know more about this than I do but haven't we encountered a number of Scandinavians, mainly Danes, in Gdansk already?

If there are links between the IB or other major powers in Gdansk and one or more Scandinavian countries then the solution to a paper/coin currency may be just to adopt the Danish Krone.  That would reduce the risk of counterfeit currency and would encourage trade.

As regards what to do next I think that we need to stick it out in Gdansk for the winter as a minimum.  Trying to move a long distance in winter is going to be extremely difficult even if we convert the vehicles to diesel and use the fuel we recovered.  Food will be our major problem because we need to build up our stocks of non perishable food first.

Also Anjo indicated (just to Tosh IC) that he had some info about the 8th ID so there is a conversation for JJM to have with him there before any decisions are taken.

Fuse, is General Hawthorne recovered from his wounds?  Who is running the IB now?  Or do we need to find that out IC?

What's the PFC by the way?  Do you mean Polish Free Congress?

In reply to David 'Tosh' Lines (msg # 278):

If I recall, Frank is 'friendly' with her?

General Hawthorne is alive, but that's all you know.

Maj. Lewis, deputy commander is currently running the show.

Rae meant the Polish Free Congress, yes.

Correct, Frank is on friendly terms with Valeska. I mean she is on good terms with all of the Mad Dogs, but she seems most friendly towards Frank.

You can give a closing post if you'd like, but I'm going to wrap up the "missions" and move everyone back to the compound in the upcoming turn. It'll be early evening.

My plan is for you to then get at least one other post (from your base) before I fast forward the game long enough for some of the wounded (the PCs anyway) to get healed. We'll then move onto something new.
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:59, Sun 13 Nov 2016.

Added to stores:

3x Drum mag for an RPK and a satchel/drum pouch
x1 M34 WP Grenade
x1 ANM-14 Thermite Grenade
x3 Batteries [Random Type & Boost]
x80g Cigarettes
5kg Luxury food
10x Postwar Dressing 'Kit'

I'm assuming nobody already added any of this to their sheets. If you did, fine, but please leave me a note here so I don't duplicate things.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 284):

Are we going to be able to go to the markets, especially the night market before we go back to the compound ?

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 284):

Ok, just to get everything updated for Lukas' sheet - From Stores:

1x 75-round RPK Drum

To Stores:

1x 40-round RPK Magazines (empty)

Fuse,

Please can Tosh take the following from the stores:

1x Drum mag for an RPK and a satchel/drum pouch
75x 7.62mmS rounds

Also was Tosh's PMK used during the treating of his wounds?  If it was then he will take one of the Postear Dressing Kits.

Lastly what type of batteries are these:

x3 Batteries [Random Type & Boost]

I think that we want to use them to boost to boost radios.

Ta,

Andy

Tosh also wants to buy a small keg of beer to take back to the compound, though that doesn't need to be from the night market.  How much would that be roughly?

Thanks for this.

Please can you expand Maj. Lewis's entry on the Cast List thread with what we know about him (as a unit).

Kessler has come across two references IC to something called the New Hanseatic League (the journal picked up in Rybina and a conversation with Artur, the Polish officer that rode in the Humvee when the Poles were escorting us) but knows nothing about it, only that it appears to exist. He suspects that the three amber beads that he acquired in Tolkmicko may be connected to it. The information has been shared with McCarthy.

Ch 14, Msg 697 and Ch 15, Msg 307 refer.

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The amber beads referenced above may be connected to this.

Re: Billy
Only Tosh (plus Varis' attempt) traded for anything in the last location so I didn't think there was much interest in trading, or maybe nobody has anything or anything they want to part with. The group can still make a stop there if you want though (it'll be mostly handled OOC). Also, I'm not sure what the group may be looking for, but there isn't a big presence of arms deals there. Quantity and quality is poor.

Re: Lukas
Acknowledged Drum + Mag

Re: Tosh
1. Acknowledged Drum + Ammo
2. PMK used. Ack' on Dressing Kit
3. It's random, depends on what device you want to permanently allocate them to
4. Small Keg is valued at about 80 using the value table used for Tosh. Kegs sold at market only

That's a lot more than I was expecting.  How big is a small keg?  Are you meaning a full beer barrel of about 29 litres or something smaller?  A beer barrel of 29 litres works out at about $1.10 for a 0.4L glass.

DMZ was $2 for a 0.4L glass so 5L would be $25 and 10L would be $50 from them (not allowing for the cost of the keg).  I was hoping that buying in bulk at the market I could get a 5 or 10 litre keg for a decent discount off that.

It's larger than that. Nothing is actioned so if he doesn't want it it's ok.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:37, Sun 13 Nov 2016.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 293):

Can he get a 5L or 10L size keg of beer?  Something that he can carry back to the compound.

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 291):

Billy brought along some trade goods for the markets, but was waiting until we got there and saw what was available. We could do it OOC if you want to roll and see if anything on his list is obtainable.

I've presumed that Billy has talked about what he wants to buy IC as I've mentioned it IC.  If he's keeping it private then please say and I'll edit my IC post accordingly.

Ta,

Andy.

If there are any final trades, post what you are looking for and the quantity, and what you have available as trade goods... and I'll get back to you. As the narrative says however, quantity and quality is poor.

I just need a price for a 10 litre beer keg please.

Ta,

Andy.