In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 937):

I know that you know this but Dietrich and Schmidt will also need the same off camera discussion, probably the following day.

In reply to Jan Czerny (msg # 938):

Yeah, realistically, Kessler's not going to do the same briefing twice in two days, he's going to give one briefing so I think there has to be a certain amount of assumption that everyone got the briefing today (i.e. before everyone headed out). If Dietrich and Schmidt have questions that can ask them IC later.

Or if J Rod's questions are non briefing specific we can park the briefing until the next morning. It doesn't matter to me either way.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:48, Thu 10 Jan 2019.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 937):

Hank would like in on the briefing as well if there is time and an opportunity for him to attend. he will be currently walking the perimeter with Per

In terms of shopping I believe that the list is as follows:

From the market:
Gun oil
7.62mmL loose rounds
7.62mmS 30rnd mags
5.45mmB 40rnd or 45rnd mags

From the arms dealer contact:
Smoke grenades
7.62mmL belted ammo for a PK
40mmS grenades

Is there anything else that we need to consider?

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Separate to this I think that it would be a good idea to trade off some of the other items we have in the stores in order to pay for the items we want from the markets (as well as getting us some Florins). I'm thinking about:

57mm HE-T shells x3
Civilian CB WalkieTalkie x1
Eyeglasses x1
Parachute, white x1 (this could be of value for the silk material if anyone is making top end clothes)
Paraffin Wax (125g block) x1
Furs x8

Does anyone disagree with selling/trading any of this?

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Lastly we have a number of 81mm High Explosive shells in the stores. These are for a mortar but we don't have a 81mm mortar any more. Therefore would these be a suitable gift to Osprey?

We might be able to do a trade with Osprey like 'ten for a fire mission for us and you can have four' or something

Fuse,

Please can Jan take the following from the stores:

1:50000 Map (Gdansk25km)
Clothing (Civilian) x1 set

Ta,

Andy.

In reply to Gerhard Dietrich (msg # 942):

Interesting idea.

The white silk parachute is the BTR’s winter camouflage so that’s definitely not tradeable.

Also I think Mark had a specific reason for getting the furs, I think related to winter weather kit, so I’d check with him about those (I’m pretty sure he wanted as many as he could get his hands on)

You’ve actually reminded me that we should try and get white winter over suits that we can use as Camo ourselves - ideally enough for everyone, failing that as many as we can get.

Whitewash can be made with lime and is a good way to camo vehicles. It wears off with rain though

Deitrich has overwhites in his kit

I still think we should use the broken weapons as part of the payment to the arms dealers.

Good call on the over-whites, Dave.

Pers wants a compact SMG for CQB, preferably a PM-84.

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Good call, Chalk. Let's look into whitewashing the BTR. The white silk would also make good cammo, but it would cover viewports, gunports, doors, and airguard hatches. Whitewash would avoice that. We could commision a tailor to turn the parachute silk into over-whites for those who need them!

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Fair enough but Andy asked if anyone disagreed with those trades, so just to be clear I disagree.with trading the parachute.

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 945):

Ok, that makes sense with the parachute and the furs. They can cone off the list.

Regarding overwrites, are thermal fatigues white? Jan has a British Army issue set and I don't know what colour they are......

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Regarding broken weapons I don't really mind if we trade them or not. If there are enough bits to put together some fully working weapons though then we should do that.

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Rae, regarding a compact SMG for Per I've been checking on weapons for ammo types (the list isn't quite complete yet) and I believe that there are some options already in the Mad Dogs.

 - I believe that Auttenberg (one of the guys with Fox) has an Uzi with a folding stock.

 - I believe that both Fischer and Price have PM-84s and that Price also has a suppressor for his.

It was explained to me that the real use of the parachute was when the vehicle isn't moving. It's draped over it to break up the shape.

It's the same concept of how a camo net is used on a vehicle even when the vehicle underneath is already camoflauge painted.

To that end I'd like to add another parachute to the buy list.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:08, Fri 11 Jan 2019.

Thermal fatigues aren't necessarily white. Usually, they are not.

We have a surplus of weapons. If they're not being used, I think we should get something for them.

I don't necessarily want to borrow a PM-84. If either Fischer or Price (ha-ha, Fischer-Price!) are willing to part with theirs, Per would gladly take ownership (especially of the one with the silencer). If not, he'd like to obtain one of his own.

@All: What do y'all say about whitewashing the BTR and using the parachute silk to make over-whites?

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In reply to Per Kolstrup (msg # 952):

I think that it's Kessler's call on painting the BTR white.

Fuse - please be aware I've edited Jan's post to include direction on what he's trying to find out.

Ta,

Andy

In reply to Jan Czerny (msg # 941):

9mm NATO
9mm Makarov?

Hank also has (1) AK-74 Mag, fully loaded and (1) Polish P-64 pistol and (2) empty mags for trade in, or personal use.

Hank could use some night vision and some spare bdus or civvie clothes

In reply to Henry 'Hank' Voight (msg # 954):

Sorry, I'll add those rounds to the list.

Regarding items for the stores, Please resolve with Fuse.

Schmidt - I think that you were trying to put some stuff in the stores as well.

Updated list:

From the market:
Gun oil
7.62mmL loose rounds
7.62mmS 30rnd mags
5.45mmB 40rnd or 45rnd mags
9mmP rounds
9mmM rounds

From the arms dealer contact:
Smoke grenades
7.62mmL belted ammo for a PK
40mmS grenades

Items to trade:
57mm HE-T shells x3
Civilian CB WalkieTalkie x1
Eyeglasses x1
Paraffin Wax (125g block) x1

Just to add to the shopping list, Jose went through 6 40mmN HE, 5 40mmN HEDP, and 1 40mmN Illum rounds over the course of the night, so any and all 40mmN grenades we can get our hands on would be a huge benefit to him at least. Alternatively, he could perhaps take ownership of the Carl Gustav for future missions instead of bringing his MM-1 (though in that case it might behoove us to get more 84mm reloads).

Fuse, what weapons platform is the 66mm HE and HEAT rounds listed in stores compatible with? I was assuming it is the RPG-7, but it usually fires slightly larger caliber rockets, so I'm not sure.

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This message was last edited by the player at 01:13, Fri 11 Jan 2019.

The SM-2 Koncerz.
...the PIAT-like weapon.

Thermals here are not white.

Andy remind me tomorrow about the map & civies. I can't mess with stores on my phone.
This message was lightly edited by the GM at 01:25, Fri 11 Jan 2019.

Would the SM-2 be considered a Grenade Launcher or a Tac Missile when it comes to skill usage? If it’s PIAT-like, I would think more GL?

I’ve no objection to painting the BTR white. But with regards the parachute, Ferro is spot on with her post as to the reasoning behind it so I don’t think it should be traded.

There are 11 40mmN HE grenades in the stores and 9 of them are locally made reloads. We can try to buy some more though.

I believe that Jose is the only person in the Mad Dos still using 40mmN grenades. Except possibly Billy.