No White Scars. That would mean that they finally have to invent rules for vehicles ;)

Wow, don't know where all of the Space Puppy hate is coming from. To be honest, I think they're one of the more interesting loyalist chapters there are, mainly for the fact that they'll give the finger to convention if it gets the job done. Yes they just had a very silly codex, but I think people are forgetting, this is 40K. I think once we had the guns that send goblins through hell to kill a guy, 800' tall cathedral mechs, and walking tanks piloted by demons, that the entire world was meant to be taken as a big joke?

Though to be honest I would like to see some Ravenguard love, they're just so underloved compared to the other prime chapters, even the Iron Hands. Not to mention possibly getting some more fun out of jump packs.

Black Industries' "Dark Heresy Vehicle's Apocrypha". They already have the rules for vehicles ;)

Now they need to publish them ;)

I know this is Kinda way off topic but i have a Death Watch Rules Lite Game in need of a few players. Very simple rules. Any Interest? Still need a lot of the more interesting Chapters...

Note this is not DH or RT rules. Its 3:16... rules are in included in the Game Threads.

Needed:
White Scars (!!)
Space Wolves
Raven Guard
Salamanders
Etc Etc

Have:
Warmongers
Imperial Fists
Red Scorpians
Ultramarines

link to another game
This message was last edited by the player at 03:54, Wed 17 Mar 2010.

You could just ask someone here for them ;)

They're posted on Dark Reign 40K... I think she means in paper form. Otherwise, I can definitely send them via email.

I got the rules from Dark Reign 40k site. What I meant was that if they inserted the White Scars, they will have to put those or other rules as well in the Death Watch book. You cannot have official rules referencing to unofficial rules.

The Dark Heresy Vehicle Apocrypha was originally on the Black Library website, if I remember correctly which is where I would have originally downloaded it from in the first place. So they are/were 'official', just never put into a hardcover/softcover book that I know of...but either they would have to add them to the FF site or add them to one of the books like you said...

No surprises here.  And the second Chapter is.....

Hardly a surprise. These were the two chapters everybody agreed would be there. Just wondering though. Anybody here actually played with this chapter?

Nah, they stary to far from codex for my liking.

I just like pointing out to people that they are not really a first founding chapter.

The setting for DW!

http://www.fantasyflightgames....e_news.asp?eidn=1233

And #3 is.....



The Dark Angels!
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:25, Fri 09 Apr 2010.

At least we have Ultramarines to be used as a base template for custom chapters.

Come on, Angry Marines!!!!!

Angry Marines? Who is that supposed to be? All Astartes are consumed with the fiery rage befitting soldiers of the God-Emperor.

Angry Marines. Always angry, all the time. >:C

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Angry_Marines

In the Dark Reign interview with Ross Watson and Sam Stewart last night, they told us that not all the 6 starting Chapters in the book will be First Founding Chapters, so I'm curious about which ones are gonna be the last 2 Chapters (since it's obvious the Blood Angels will be in there too :P).

I think there is a good chance that the non-first founding chapter will be Black Templar given their better established background over others or maybe Crimson Fists as all the other chapters that have mention within the Deathwatch background are the off-spring of the smurf-marines sowould not need rules added.

I would think other obvious choices to include would be Salamanders or Iron Hands given that they are even more non-codex than either of the Angel Marines chapters and so would be good choices for adding variability.

Both Salamders and Iron Hands are founding chapters if memory serves. Primarchs Vulcan and Ferrus Manus respectively.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:32, Sun 11 Apr 2010.

Thank you! Everyone always talks about them over at FFG but I didn't want to ask the n00b question ;-)

I know I was just considering them as likely candidates for inclusion given the lack of well known second founding chapters that could be used.

oh, apologies I misunderstood. Iron Hands could be cool, they've really only had that one article in the WD ndex astartes series. Raven Guard
On another note, I hope they include the Legion of the Damned in some way.

Legion of the Damned are unlikely to feature as they are neither a chapter nor part of the Imperium and the chapter they used to be, the Fire Hawks, is officialy recognised as being destroyed.

Including them in any significant way would be diificult, they are just to rare and obscure to play any roll in the major workings of the setting.

The fact that they are insane probably would not help much either.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:45, Sun 11 Apr 2010.