I dunno... I've seen having a collective decision work pretty well, as a compromise decision means people at least get part of what they would like to play, and you usually don't end up with something no-one wants to play. If the GM makes the regiment, there's no sense of collective ownership of the style of game, and many people won't bother applying if they aren't interested at all in that type of regiment.

Depends actually. In the end it's the characters that are running the show. I've played an Only War character that didn't fit in with her regiment (Feral World background in a Hive City regiment) and she did fairly well.

While she wasn't too happy about getting assigned to it, she quickly ignored those feelings during combat situations in favor of more important priorities, such as 'get my Captain to quit shouting at me all the time' and 'who is trying to put a bolter round in my face'.

It's possible. Sure, when setting up the regiment it's better for the GM to ask what kind of regiment the players are interested in playing, and sure, it's okay to have the occasional misfit as you can't hand-pick the people you get sent to replace losses, but as long as the majority aren't misfits it should only add flavor.

Unless you're playing a bunch of ex-cons getting bundled up and tossed on the front lines since no one will mourn their deaths anyway. Then everyone can be a misfit :P

ah I might be (in all probability) wrong about this..

but you see in Only War you are supposed to have a Regiment it controls in part what skills you get starting out and what you get discounts on and your individual and group speciality and this applies for the whole party.  There's no individual feral world thing from what I understood from the rules.  Either they are all from a feral world or none of them are.

I do take the point that a player created regiment could help with the cohesiveness of the whole thing my problem is I never really know what I want from a background and a "whole package background like regiment makes the selfish part sit up and say.. how do I be 'unique'. But the whole cohesion thing is a vital part of only war. ><

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Oh, i took the regiment's skills. I should probably mention that i was the psyker, and the Inquisition assigned me to the regiment. It's even canon for them to do that :P

And of course, being sent to a Hive World allowed them to keep tabs on me much easier since they knew i knew my way around surviving in a jungle, which a Hive City has a distinct lack of ;)

I can't the Senior Cardinal Ignato has yet to even cast his eyes upon the tome of Only War.  What was the Forum's judgement after the whole beta debacle.  The preview I thought looked great, I usually get the Cores first day off the boat, but after 4 giant cores and a lot of good side books, like I warned and whimpered when Black Crusade came out, I am sure the Cardinal is not alone in being a few thrones short of being able to keep up with the lines and other gaming at the same time.

The best part is that these are great problems to have, too many good games to even play these days.  I was just wondering Flakk and I know this one is a stretch, but I just like the gamers here and it happens from time to time anyhow as the group kinda has gotten to know one another.  Would it be to Ruinous to start a "Heretical" gaming thread.  Those that are not Warhammer approved, yet caught the eye of forum members, just a thought. I mean I am in other gaming forums, but they keep to the systems the Forum is about as well, just a mad hair in the brain.

Such tainted thoughts from the Cardinal I know, best wishes with everyones game.  I was waiting for the tide of Only War to hit the RPoL beach, sounds fun, and someone post something I so interesting about the book I have to buy it leaving the Cardinal to syphoning his neighbors gas again;)

Debacle? Why would you think it was a debacle? You got a discount equal to the cost of the beta on the final PDF, and it is pretty much universally believed that it made the game a lot better.

No let the Senior Cardinal Ignato clear the air on that point.  I never once complained about the Beta test FFG did, I think it was an amazing thing to watch a group of individuals come together at no pay to take on one of the most thankless jobs in publishing.

I was one watching from the side-lines as the other half complained endlessly about the Beta "cheat".  Although I believe everyone who bought beta received a coupon for the hard copy.  I have no problems, that are not silly little points of this and that with FFG.  In my mind like I was trying to say above, is that FFG has come out with so very much good gaming I can't keep up with the titles and awesome supplements.

 I would buy a lot of FFG Warhammer books for the art alone.  Let it be known the Cardinal has no problem with how FFG handled Only War, I was really joking about a "debacle", being that from the moment the beta idea hit the ethernet, this Forum, (too bored with my own ranting to look up the exact post) again people on this forum blew up.  So by "debacle" the Senior Cardinal Ignato meant it really showed a rift in the "politics" and ideals people have about gaming, you just don't see it that often.  Anyhow like I said the game is making me drool, and that drool is covered with gasoline from my neighbors new truck, damn him he switched to diesel;)

Ahh, fair enough. I didn't see many people complain after it was pointed out that you got a discount copy of the full-game's PDF, so I thought you were talking about people complaining somewhere other than the FFG forums/RPG.net/etc.

In my opinion, it's probably the best of the 40k RPGs. It's been tested more than just me and my fellow playtesters could do, and it's much better for it, as well as being a fairly open and flexible system, letting you mostly play whatever type of character you want.

I too think that the open beta test was a smart one. The more people pour through things the more likely you are to find all those little nitty errors that inevitably enter a rulebook. Never mind the more unbalancing game errors. The more problems they find out before the finished product enters the store the better.

Here here. Love my beta copy. I have something to tie me over until I have the extra petty cash to buy the finished article, the difference already paid is a good move too. FFG not as greedy as the cynic in me would imagine it seems, and happy to be wrong in this instance.
Having an army of proof-readers was a master stroke too (especially as we paid FFG, not the other way around). I can't stand having to check both rules and errata simultaneously. I dream of the day when a game, any game, is released perfect (but that's the optimist in me).

Exactly. I mean, as you can see in the credits, there are only, at most, about 30-40 playtesters for a core book, and whilst we can get a lot of the problems, there's no way in hell we can get them all. Having an extra few hundred or so beta-testers is incredibly useful.



It's good you realise that you're an optimist, because it'll never, ever happen. You just can't playtest a game enough to try all contingencies, and that means there will always be problems.

There wouldn't be an errata if you did though. I'm in the infinite monkey and typewriter camp. The more playtesters you have the smaller the errata after final publication. One day there'll be no erratas.

I just thought that sounded like an infamous quotation hanging in the front office of the Cog-God on Mars. :)

I should probably get some sleep.....

Even with the beta, there is still errata - the only time there will be no errata is when the devs never bother making one, it'll never be because one isn't needed.

I love an optimist, but I won't be holding my breath here ;)

just picked up only war

There are a few, actually a large number considering how new Only War is, up and running, is there any part of the game that the RpoL games that are missing what the gamers are looking for.  I imagine it is a lot like Rouge Trader about exactly how to start a PbP game when building a regiment could take a long time, but I feel like the start to Rouge Trader is key, I also feel every player should have a part to play when building a regiment.  Anyone have suggestions to a GM looking to run Only War PbP.

I like the idea of cooperatively making the regiment, as long as it does not conflict with a story the GM wants to run. For example, if the GM wants to run something like a tunnel war then the group deciding they want to make up a tank unit just doesn't work.

It will take longer to get the game going, but makes the players more invested in the game.

How many forum members are interested in an only war game with regiment building as part if the game starting very soon?

I just got the game so I'd be interested.

I'd recommend avoiding the regiment building unless you don't mind wasting a month or more on it, I say that because I tried running a game using the Beta rules but the regiment and character creation dragged on and on till the game just died.

Also rules wise it's pretty much Dark Crusade with a bit more in depth character creation.

The regiment building is a nice thing. But better left to the GM if you play on RPol. I fear that Sarge is right there.

I'd be interested Ignato!

I reall y want to run this game but I am hearing 50/50 on regiment construction.  But running games on rpol I can see why, give me a week and one half and I will r mail the interested if they do not mind! Only war! O.k. Back to work, 40K fantasies really fall apart when you return to the reality of a cubicle, only War yeah go!  Just really kills it ;)

I'd like to express my interest in this as well.