DarkLightHitomi
 member, 1123 posts
Thu 20 Apr 2017
at 20:04
Oddity found.
In the Announcment forum, the GM status notice thread at the top says it was last commented on today, but the only message was both posted and modified last in 2008.

I couldn't find anything that was recent, so why does it claim to have a comment from today?
gladiusdei
 member, 533 posts
Thu 20 Apr 2017
at 20:07
Oddity found.
it was just bumped by BBR, due to a conversation in the community chat thread.
DarkLightHitomi
 member, 1124 posts
Thu 20 Apr 2017
at 20:10
Oddity found.
Oh, thanks.

Maybe they should say "ladt bumped on [date/time]"

Just a thought.
bigbadron
 moderator, 15337 posts
 He's big, he's bad,
 but mostly he's Ron.
Thu 20 Apr 2017
at 20:49
Oddity found.
It was actually modified today though, when I switched it to a Notice, so it would stay on the first page.  So the text wasn't modified, but the status of the thread was.

This message was last edited by the user at 20:57, Thu 20 Apr.

steelsmiter
 member, 1712 posts
 AWE, BESM, Fate, Indies
 NO FREEFORM! NO d20!
Thu 20 Apr 2017
at 23:29
Oddity found.
I'm really surprised its contents are news to people.
Tyr Hawk
 member, 274 posts
 You know that one guy?
 Yeah, that's me.
Fri 21 Apr 2017
at 00:53
Re: Oddity found.
steelsmiter:
I'm really surprised its contents are news to people.

Well, not everyone reads everything, and them not reading everything is one reason why they might be surprised that they're expected to do so in their own games. But there's also plenty of other things...

Some people only read what's immediately available (this particular thread was page 2 originally, where the internet knows not to go) and that they believe is relevant to them.
It's bound to be new to someone everyday.
Even with giant flashing signs on their TV screens that say things like "We are aware of the issue, please don't call. Your programming will resume shortly." I would get calls from people when I worked Tech Support. Why did they say they called when I asked, you might ask? "Because I thought you should know!"
Too busy planning for raptor attacks.

Two is definitely my favorite of reasons, but take your pick on yours.

Why, yes, I do read xkcd sometimes. Why do you ask?
steelsmiter
 member, 1713 posts
 AWE, BESM, Fate, Indies
 NO FREEFORM! NO d20!
Fri 21 Apr 2017
at 01:44
Re: Oddity found.
Tyr Hawk:
steelsmiter:
I'm really surprised its contents are news to people.

Well, not everyone reads everything,

I'm not even talking about an ability to read everything, I'm talking about the very narrow topic of some GMs not knowing explicitly stated expectations from the site, and how that is dumbfounding.
swordchucks
 member, 1378 posts
Fri 21 Apr 2017
at 13:16
Re: Oddity found.
steelsmiter:
explicitly stated expectations from the site, and how that is dumbfounding.

I was the one that didn't know the specific wording of the rule and thought it somewhat milder (which, based only on reading the items in the site Help and most of the FAQ section is a reasonable understanding).  You say "explicit", but you probably don't realize that said rule was/is only stated in two somewhat obscure places.  One was a 9 year old post on the second page of the announcements forum, the other is deep in the FAQ about mature games and adult content in PMs.  Bumping said post to the top of the announcements forum can only be a good thing.

Now, the rule does come up a good deal with regards to adult games... but there's a lot of potential for folks running only general rated games to not feel that they apply to them.  If you don't run adult games, odds are that the thought has never even occurred to you that you have to watch out for Adult Content Policy violations in your player-to-player PM threads.  Having rules which are potentially a big deal be hard to actually find for new users isn't a good thing.  I'm of the firm opinion that rules should be clear, concise, and readily available to anyone that bothers to look (and, really, the current state with them spread between four or five distinct areas isn't great for the last one).  Anything else just leads to problems.

As the quote goes, "A vague disclaimer is nobody's friend."
DarkLightHitomi
 member, 1125 posts
Fri 21 Apr 2017
at 21:33
Re: Oddity found.
Another part of it is people thinking of themselves as being reasonable with good common sense who might simply expect that posting with common sense would be sufficient to avoid infractions.

But sadly, even good common sense isn't enough. I can't tell you how many times things had sneaked up on me in my early days that I totally didn't even consider as even potentially an issue.

There is also the fact that as the number of rules goes up, the longer and more difficult it becomes to remember them all, so it seems quite reasonable to not bother with sections that don't seem to pertain to you. For example, why learn the adult games policies if you never play adult games? And then it bites you in the posterior. :)
bigbadron
 moderator, 15341 posts
 He's big, he's bad,
 but mostly he's Ron.
Fri 21 Apr 2017
at 22:04
Re: Oddity found.
quote:
said rule was/is only stated in two somewhat obscure places.
Unless you also count all the times it has been mentioned across the forums over the years since the site was set up.

quote:
For example, why learn the adult games policies if you never play adult games?
For one thing, it isn't the Adult game policy.  The rule in question applies to every game on the site, regardless of its rating.

Also note that the Adult Game Policy itself applies, in part, to every game.  That part being the section which describes what content requires that a game have an Adult rating before it can be included in that game.

quote:
There is also the fact that as the number of rules goes up, the longer and more difficult it becomes to remember them all
The rule in question is not a new one (in fact, it has been quite some time since a new rule was added to the site - in recent years the only changes to the site's rules have been clarifications, not additions - so the number isn't actually going up).