Peter raised an eyebrow after the Colonel and Templars (well Templar and Squire Boy) were finished talking. He stared at them for a long moment as he lit up a cigarette and took a long draw on it. Finally, he spoke again.

"I think you are missing the fucking point. We aren't going to kill this Destroyer person. Oh, that may happen and it might become necessary to accomplish the mission. But the mission is to rescue the hostages. Or did you forget the hostages in your eagerness to kill Modeen? The only reason Modeen should be engaged is if it is part of a plan to rescue the hostages or cause confusion to rescue the hostages."

He took another drag. "The bikes going ahead to scout is fine with me, if those involved are willing to take the risk that something might happen to them while we are apart and they are weaker. If something happens to the scouts, then any plans have a higher chance of failure with less people to execute it."

He smiled mirthlessly. "And no I am not willing to sacrifice my truck though I may use it in a plan that has a high likelihood of it being driven away by me afterwards."

In reply to Peter Firecrow (msg #115):

Daphne had a look of surprise on her face. Was his guy listening when Simon spoke?

"Hey, Simon said to "strike Modeen down". I really want to rescue my family, but that won't happen if Modeen is alive so stop dreaming it's going to go down any differently.

"We need a workable plan, so let's stay focused on killing Modeen, here. I'm glad someone thinks you can do this."

In reply to Peter Firecrow (msg #115):



Frowning, Schaeffer replied calmly, "Such bitter arguing and swearing is beneath us. We must respect each other to work together."

"Daphne is right, you are wrong. I recall that Simon asked us to kill Modeen and that is what we agreed to do, nothing less and Boise will fall.

"You say you are not going without your truck, and you won't risk it's destruction. That is understandable. It would be foolish to think there are any guarantees here, but ramming bikes is not that dangerous for an armoured vehicle."

Peter nodded. "Yes I heard Simon say that. I don't care. I'm not an assassin for hire. Rescuing hostages? Sure, I can get behind that. Defending myself when evil rears its ugly head? No problem. Having to kill to survive? Absolutely. But just being sent to kill someone because some sword-wielding fanatic says to? Not my style. You all want to go off on a killing spree, targets being bad guys or not, be my guests. My only concern would be freeing the hostages, and killing the bad guys if they tried to stop us and if a plan to rescue the hostages required it. You don't like that, don't want me along because of that, no skin off my back, I'll sit this one out. I don't care about being a fucking Companion or Escort or whatever that is anyway."

In reply to Peter Firecrow (msg #118):

Schaeffer nodded.

"`It is good to know where you stand. If you should decide to be of any help in whatever way you are capable, that is of course appreciated. My apologies but not that I ever used one but I think prostitutes get paid, and as Companions we will certainly not be. From what I know of your kind you might want to ask Simon for money for your services, if that makes you feel better.

"It is natural to wish that the hostages somehow go free without a fight or undue risk to yourself or your truck. There is no shame in wanting this."

He addressed everyone else.

"For the rest of us, I think we can still eliminate Modeen with what we have."
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"We'll see, Roadkill, we'll see. Who says I don't want to get there quicker, on my bike?" She put on Michaela's battered vest and then slung her SA Commando SMG, putting a handful of loose rounds in her pocket. She then helped Trejo unship Michaela's repaired bike, rolling it down the ramp.

"Thanks for the gear. Don't feel so naked now."

She looked grim and determined.

"Roadkill, I sure hope you're in all the way on this. Modeen's not going to let those people go without a fight. If you're not in all the way, well, it sucks but I guess I understand."

Smoker puffed on his pipe as the debate flowed. He didn't say anything, as he felt he had little to contribute beyond going along and doing whatever was necessary when he got there. Brawling wasn't his strong point, never mind tactical planning.

Roadkill put his hand up as if to interrupt smoker....

"I got this buddy, look I think you have missed a huge big ass point here. Half of us don't give a rats arse about pleasing the Templers".

Roadkill looks to Peter

"Yeah, my fellow driver and might I add, sane person, has the right idea. I am not going to blow up my truck to just kill The great Evil destroyer, that the Templars don't want to deal with and I also won't be allowing you" Roadkill looks at Daphne "To kill yourself to kill this thing."

"hostages yes. I will race in and ram my way to where they are, if you want to put explosives out front in front of the scope, that will explode outwards then go for it but I am in no way there to kill the destroyer. We got some people we know to rescue."

Roadkill laughs a bit

"really, are you kidding me? Blow up my truck to just please a bunch of dudes who won't do it themselves"

Roadkill shakes his head

"I learnt from Arthur a very important thing about the Templars. Help those that can help themselves, otherwise... fuck em"

He looks at Trejo

"I say fuck em, let them kill their own Bogeyman and we will do the rescuing. I've told you my bit and if you come up with a plan, just remember that Peter and his rig, me and my rig, smoker and you too Daphne, are in the same boat here. I ain't rescuing Angie to tell her you died"

Roadkill tries to scab another smoke of smoker but see he has a pipe going so rolls his own.... this time.

In reply to Roadkill (msg #122):

Jane looked around and finally spoke up in the lull period.  "I understand about wanting to go kill this big badass for what he's done and will do.  I go with Peter and his truck.  You were willing to split up the party before as one sort of plan.  Can you come up with a plan some go after Mr. Badass and we go after the hostages.  It matters if you kill him, but on the other hand it won't end it.  His giddy guns will take revenge out on the hostages if they aren't rescued.  Another will rise up in his place.

If you want to talk about good and evil.  Forgive me if this sounds blasphemous to most of you but...You're talking about good having your Almighty on its side while Evil doesn't.  It's Ying and Yang folks.  You better bet that they have something on their side also and you take this one down without proper planning another one or two will rise up in it's place.  We're in an never ending battle.  I've had enough of "acceptable losses" when it comes to innocents.  I'm not saying that I am not willing to fire Baby on the side of good.  I just think you need to take a step back, take a deep breath, and look at your plans again.  Look at it another way.  If you want soldiers to fight on your side you need to rescue them.  People will remember for years to come that you took out this badass but generations of fighters will remember if you saved their relatives.  THAT will give them something to fight for.  THAT will give them the backbone to look into evil's eyes and say "if I go down, it was worth it.""

Jane, who normally didn't say much finally managed to shut her mouth on the topic and looked over at Peter.  "It's your call Peter.  You know I'll be with you no matter your decision."

"Never once did we any Templar or Squire present or not say that we didn't or wouldn't rescue the hostages. I fact all of my plans either mentioned a way to do that with minimal losses or potentially no losses. Fact of the matter is that we don't have a layout of the camp. Modeen dies or Boise is finished. If Boise falls how long before Junkyard falls this rabble. The fact is without Modeen the anti-Templars will lose recruits and steam. If their Grandmaster can be beaten by a regular Templar an' his Squire then they lose some serious steam. The Reckoners most likely have a hand either turning Modeen into a minor Servitor or a full blown one. Fact is this bastard is just as evil as Throckmorten, but he has supernatural badass tacked on. If Modeen takes Denver what do you think the future is folks. Death, war, and famine everlasting! If we can't kill him in the assault to get the hostages out then we need to set a trap to kill him and as many of his people as possible and leave their carcasses for the buzzards. Ma'am." Jason looks at them and wonders for just a second if he went to far or not far enough. Probably to far but what said was said. "Best case scenario hostages get out scot free, Modeen and his elite guard are killed, and we all make it home safe and sound. That would be perfect as far as I am concerned. That being said I don't think without a week worth of recon and planning that can be done and I would need at least two more snipers. I fully believe that the Almighty as you put it ma'am is on our side. We have the righteousness on our side. Can we win sure. Can we have a best outcome happen with a lot of luck sure, but face facts this is for the survival of the Wastes and Boise. I am willing to die are you? Does your precious truck matter more than a few hundred lives? Defenseless women and children are the main population of Boise. What do you scavs think Modeen and crew will do to them?"

In reply to Jason Sinclair (msg #124):

Ian is listening in to the arguments that were going back and forth.  He really wanted to rescue the hostages but he knew from his training that with out good intel or at the very least a layout and were the hostages were, in the end there would be dead rescuers and hostages.

He says at the comment of using Roadkill's truck as an explosive weapon,"That is a horrible idea, we first have no idea where the hostages are and that could just kill them all."

Looking over Daphne he asks her, "What all do you rememberer of the place that you were keep in?  Did they keep all the hostages in one place or did they spread them around?  Were they always under guard?  Anything other details can help."

"We just can't charge in to this, I do want the hostages rescued and there is a major dead line for doing this.  We only have a couple of hours before they kill the next hostage.  We need to come up with a smart and workable plan"

In reply to Sgt. Ian Sullivan (msg #125):


"I meant run over the bikers. Blowing up the rig is s stupid idea, but people seem to be getting funny ideas."

"We will have to go through Modeen to get to the hostages. That's what will happen. Anyone who thinks it will happen differently is fooling themselves."

"Roadkill and Peter are out, then. I am in favour of Jason's idea. We take the bikes now, then the vehicles follow up later. They can transport the hostages back if they wish. I am also in agreement that Modeen should die for the good of all, not just because Simon wishes it."
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Roadkill smiles

"Peter, his truck and good olde Jane"



Roadkill looks to jason and mimes drawing a gun and points it at Jasons balls.

"It means as much to me as that does to you, i assume"

"I ain't dying for the templars but i will come back from the dead and kill anyone that hurts my friends and family, the truck... is part of my family"

Roadkill points to Daphne
"As you heard... boy, her father gave me my baby, a man, who without, I would probably rape the likes of pretty little Templars like you. So think of, what you call just a truck but maybe instead a saviour of 100s of people. As for you, I have no idea who you are" Roadkill looks at Trejo "I don't even trust this guy, why would i trust someone he knows?"

"I am going there to save Angie. The rest could die for all I care. If they can make it then sure, I will help them and as for Boise getting destroyed, are you kidding me and in that way I mean are you a priest playing with a kids? If Simon is such a little bitch then hell, I might just take Boise for the convey. It looks like you guys need real leadership and strength"

In reply to Jason Sinclair (msg #124):

Jane's head snapped up at his words of "are you willing to die" and how many lives are at risk etc.

A coldness from her Black Hat days washed over her before she realized it and a cold calm entered her.  She had said what she had meant to say and for her the subject was closed.  She'd do what Peter decided to do with the truck but to question her "willingness to die" was something else.  Before she would have shot him for that.  Now she had more restraint.

In even tones, or as even as she could get them, she answered.  "Don't...go...down...that...road.  You...won't...win."

She turned and looked at Peter and Rowan, the two she felt most comfortable with.  "I'll be in the deuce."

She turned her back and went in the deuce and started to try and calm back down.

In reply to Roadkill (msg #122):



Deeply disappointed in her former friend, Daphne shook her head.

"You're wrong, Roadkill, if you think you can have your friends do the killing and just waltz in there after and save the hostages. That's loco.

"Modeen, after what he done to the people there, he's gotta be brought to justice, and if the Templars are going to do it, then I'll help them any way I can. If you don't, well, I guess we can pay you money. Maybe that's what you need to get you to help?"

"Sergeant Sullivan," she said, having been introduced, "I left from the ambush site. They could be anywhere by now."
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In reply to Jason Sinclair (msg #124):

Trejo returned Roadkill's look and laughed scornfully.

"Jason, ignore these pendejos. These "heroes" got no balls, they're full of shit.

"You have a good idea. Mount up now. Let's ride and take care of business today. They can "rescue" the hostages after it's nice and safe."
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Roadkill went extremely red with rage! Why don't woman just listen to him he thought. Rowan was the same though, thank god the Colonial took on most of her issues now. He thought for a bit. Smoker is a good guy, at least i could beat the crap out of him if he ever hurt her...

"ITs... not.... the... Money!" He says with gritted teeth. "Your father would kill me if I let you do this." he suddenly looks at her, all of her and shakes his head "My god, you really are not a little girl any more."

Roadkill shakes his head

"Look. Ok. You can make your own decision, but you know our side. We are not going to kill we are going to save Angie and i guess some want to help the rest. I'm not a moron, I know that what we do will connect and one without the other will fail. As, I, said. you guys know our thoughts, think of a plan and we can sort something out."

He sees Trejo leave

"Don't be a complete meat head. Get yourself killed with the rest of us"

Roadkill goes over to Smoker "what you smoking in your pipe, it always smells so good"
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In reply to Roadkill (msg #131):

Daphne also laughed, but not bitterly.

"You're not about the money with you? Listen, Ian, that's not what dad said."

She turned to smile warmly at Jason. He was a good-lookin' man, and she seemed to appreciate it. "Thanks. You have it right. About Modeen, about Boise, about Junktown, all of it. It's like dominoes. You have my thanks, I won't forget this."

In reply to Roadkill (msg #131):

Ian listens in on the the arguments that are going back and forth on this issue.  He can see the problems that the request has brought up.  The group is already been split on what to do.  His main objective was to rescue the hostages, by freeing them that removes a major advantage that the gang, human shields.

He was a bit disappointed that there was no other info.

When Trejo leaves he says, "So are we going try and follow him or are we going to let him go out and get himself get killed or worse get all of the hostages killed as well."

Peter leaned back a bit. More and more the so-called "good guy" Templars were giving the group shit and insulting them, veiled or not, for not wanting to be killers and focus on that to the exclusion of the hostages.  And Trejo's comments were just plain stupid. The Posse WASN'T made up of "heroes". They never claimed to be, unlike the sword-wielding fanatics.

He drew his pistol and fired off a shot near the ground by Trejo, looking calm. He didn't yell, didn't raise his voice at all and didn't point the gun at anyone.

"Everyone stop. We can't afford to let the stupid insulting Templar wannabe heroes go off on their own because then Modeen will be on alert after they fail and die horribly. We all go or no one goes." He looked at Trejo and pointed a finger at him as he holstered the pistol once more. "YOU...are a fucking idiot. We never claimed to be heroes. That's you whackjob swordsmen who do that. WE claimed to be survivors in a hellish world. Period. But we do good when we can. So shut the fuck up or I'll save Modeen the trouble of killing your retarded ass."

He didn't sound angry but it was obvious he was. Hell, he was a miser and he'd just "spent money" to get peoples' attention. "Now, you've pissed me off and lost the right to make decisions. Bikes go scout while Roadkill and I follow at the speeds we can. Once the camp has been scouted, THEN we make a non-suicidal plan. Or 2 plans since the Templars are so keen to kill and forget the hostages. If you don't like it, then fuck off but you don't get to dictate shit when you can't even stop from being an asshole for more than 5 minutes. You're supposed to be a role model for Christ's sake. You have a Squire to look up to you now. Act the part. Stop being a dick and making me cuss."

In reply to Peter Firecrow (msg #134):

Rowan smiles ruefully at the idea of being a hero.
"Okay Can I make some suggestions here"
"Now I am no military expert, and most of my skills are in healing."
"But we have extreme long range capability with My loves sniper rifle and Jane's MG.
"So lets play this both ways."
"We want to make him fight on ground of our choosing and at a time that benefits us".
"So as i see it Trejo we need to make him stand clear so he can be shot, you know of him more than us, can you think of a way of making it happen."
"Love your job is to put as many heavy rounds into him as it requires and his heavy inner circle."
"The MG's job is to thin the supporters down. those of us with small arms make sure that people leave the heavy team alone while they do their job , with some of us acting as a snatch squad to rescue the hostages."
How does that sound

In reply to Rowan Dawson (msg #135):

Trejo ignored Peter. He didn't even flinch.

"Not bad thinkin', Rowan."

"Well, I want to rescue the hostages, not just kill Modeen. I think I can draw him out. I don't like it but if the Colonel can shoot him then that could throw the rest of the warband into confusion. Once they're dead and scattered we'll have a much easier time."

"If Jane's willing to help, and I think she is, then we'll have her SAW. It's Peter's Ma-Deuce, so you'll have to ask him."

Roadkill stands next to smoker sniffing in the smoke from his pipe and then hears Peter follow on from his comment towards Trejo about being an idiot.

Suddenly a shot blasts out from Peter.

Roadkill immediately goes over to were Peter is and stands next to him, his back to where he fired, and waited, not wanting to stop or piss Peter off but just to stand with him. When Peter finishes saying what he said Roadkill says
"I know man. I know. You cool? You cool? Smoker's got some great pipe tobacco, we gotta have a pow wow and forget these idiots. You and me bro. Stick together"
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In reply to Roadkill (msg #137):

Jane heard the shot quickly followed by peter's voice.  She listened to what he and others said for she could still hear.  Leave it to Rowan to try and be the calm one.  Nice if you could do it but Jane was still working on that part.

Jane got back out of the Technical and walked over to Peter.  She made a motion for Roadkill to step back a bit and the turned to Peter with her back towards the others.  She trusted that her back was safe as long as it was non combat and she wanted Peter to look at her.  She also made sure to stand off to one side enough so if he had to draw he could yet.  In a quiet low voice she started to talk to him.

"I did have to fall for a hot head didn't I?  We're two of a kind in that regards.  I'm not happy about this but hell, it's not the first time I haven't been happy.  Actually only been happy really recently.  Now that everybody is quiet so they can hear, repeat your idea about scouts on bikes and us following.  I think we should let Trejo take a go at badass as the distraction.  Then we can go help rescue.  I will let them use the SAW as long as I get baby.  You and baby...that's what I'll need.  Anyway, that's my opinion.  And, Peter?  I've just found you so please don't storm off."

Damn, there she had said it.  She showed vulnerability to him and she swore she wouldn't show that vulnerability to a guy again.  She must really like him.
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"Again to be clear scav our goal is the rescue of the hostages. I am for one not dumb enough to think that we are just gonna waltz in an waltz out. Someone has to die. Your truck Roadkill is replaceable. If the only way to get Angie out was to blow your truck to shit would you? A hundred thousand trucks can be found on the road between Boise and Seattle. Half of them may not work at all. A quarter may need repairs. The other quarter just need cleaning. People especially good people are worth a lot. Modeen was good people now he is just more scum to be cleaned up we have an actual shot to make a difference. You bow out I'm going with or with out any of you. Always has been always will be one riot, one Ranger. I might be the only one left but I am gonna make a difference before the Horsemen punch my number. Clear." Jason stalks after Trejo. When Peter's shot rings out Jason looks ready to put a bullet in him luckily he doesn't have a gun right now.