More of the same.

weee, it's a fresh one :)

thanks kitten.

it is entirely on purpose that camille doens't stop to speak with anyone ;)

Resists urge to make an update.

Question: What level are the buildings again?

Buildings are level 1.  Not tall enough for mechs to enter and will only provide partial cover.

And not tall enough to see past the trees. Rgr.

Also, on a side note, are the trees light or heavy?  Also, I forget, but are you visible if you are standing on the other side of the tree line?

Not that it's terribly important for a pair of simulations but just so they are noted right...

Using up his xp:
50 spent for Leadership 2
25 spent for Edge 1

Leaves him with 1 xp left.

In reply to 1st LT Adam Carlyle (msg # 7):

So noted.

sooner we work out mission details sooner it starts.  wont start earlier than this weekend, but it can certainly start much later if you guys dont give me the start up info.

Um. sorry.  I'll run my primary load.  Nothing special.

In reply to Cprl. Cade Murphy (msg # 10):

Will presume primary configurations unless i'm told otherwise.  Will presume standard ammo, unless told otherwise.

Primary config with standard ammo is great.

So noted.

I should be showing my primary load with the LRR and SPLs. Also, my Melee +1 is not reflected on the summary.

In reply to MW Svend Nemerson (msg # 14):

I still have to update character sheets with this information so be patient.

It's sad that we're currently so bad that a cadet is better than us!

Only in one mission.

And several of us just plain suck with out the minuses.

This has the to be the first time I can remember playing battleech an a unit having 4-6 for Gunnery and 5-7 for piloting.

my normal is 5-5 will be 5-4 soon™

but with -2 to both G and P it's rough.

still it makes sense, lots too.

Think of it a nice change of pace.

The buildings are there to be 'easy' stable targets.  So a little thought will have to be given to offense and defense, regarding how you go about it theres flexibility for total defense... total offense, or something in between.

You can totally ignore the buildings but i believe that would put you at a notable disadvatage.

Devlin and Thantos (85tons of mechs) are both at gunnery 4, so at least half your unit has normal gunnery skills.

Cowboy, Rabbit, and Ghost (85 tons of mechs) will have gunnery 4 (after weapon spec adjustments) as well, so it's a fair split of talent.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:54, Thu 19 July 2012.

I've noticed a pattern where tonnage has been equated to effectiveness.  (Note that I'm in no way accusing Devlin or Thanos of not pulling their weight <pun intended>.)  But we just saw from our last round of mechs that tonnage isn't everything!

It's a guide to effectiveness.

It's my personal belief, that there really isnt a soft mech among the innersphere selection.  not much mobility or speed, but they all have max armor, and a reasonable spread of weapons, so that if one is destroyed theyre not crippled, and except for Johan's fire fly there wont be any ammo explosions.

It's my personaly belief, that the Power loaders are at least as good as the mechs piloted by your force.  The weapons are... i believe balanced.  Gunnery and piloting skils are comparable.  The only place we have a clear edge is leadership.  Where you have a Leadership of 5, and Camille has a leadership of 2.  That's matched up against a pair of Leadership 5s.

This can be a handicap... almost, except buildings dont move and they always stand there regardless of leadership so you should always have targets to work on targeting even if you lose intiative.

If Tonnage isnt everything we'll leave off the 5 ton wheeled tank i was going to loan you to balance the sides then :P
This message was last edited by the player at 04:03, Fri 20 July 2012.

Not that it matters, since we flip maps sides for the second fight but have you figured out if you want the north side or south side first?

Set up is double blind (we dont know where each other is setting up), but mechs must be set up within 3 hexes of a 'friendly' building.

ie.  After you tell us which edge you want to use, I will talk to the others and post their locations on a thread no one has access to (but me)

After you post your locations, i will make the thread available and the date on the thread will be post dated showing our locations were picked out before yours.

Then... mission starts.

Millicent is commanding the first mission, and Adam is commanding the second.  If you eliminate Millie, Adams leadership is used.

Will you be leading with Johan's leadership or using Camillies for the first mission.  (Who ever is not used, leads the second mission.)  Yes we all know Camille has the inferior Leadership, but in real life they never get better if they dont have the chance to command, and a harmless drill like this is the perfect place for her to practice.

If Johan leads, the Omni force will need NORMAL (no space rust there) pilot rolls +2 to win intiative.  If Camille leads, their roll improves to pilot rolls -1 to win intiative.

We'll be starting from the north end of the map, and Johan will be the leader for the first battle.

You will excuse my distrust in your assessment of fairness.  The X-3's are turning out to be considerably better for a mission where you well know the parameters.  The selection of customized weapons alone give your group an edge.  Plus half of your team has effective gunnery of 4, 2 at 5 and one at 6.  In comparison, my side has 2 4's, a 5 and a 6.  Finally, even though we have the same leadership, an initiative roll at +2 means that a standard physical score of 3 would win initiative a majority (21 out of 36) of the time.

But them's the breaks!  Let's get this game on the road and move forward.

hopefully, the opforce role will be switched aorund for the second mission as well, evening that part out Johan.

Convient truths that are forgotten.

Because on the second mission.  All of Johan's pilots improve by one step.  While only 2/3 of Millies unit improves.

Yes.  The X-3s could twink out and load nothing but SRMs to go building killing, and it was mentioned quietly in private to do that, but i thought it was a good thing that pilots go with their 'primary' loads to get use to what they're going to play with in the future.

Primary loads were picked well before this mission hit the map.  In a way all of Johan's unit is using a primary load, because with the exception of Devlin's SRM, they're all certainly making the best use of the weapon spec.

Four players vs Five players.  Players twink as players twink,some more than others, some different than others.  If this is a seriously 'bad' scenario as proposed, save me the hassle of put it on the map and going through the work of conducting a BM mission with them, and i'll roleplay through it, and start with live combat missions first, i simply thought it was a nice change of pace, to not have to fight an NPC op force.

I for one like the scenario and Cade is itching to prove his worth after 2 botched outings.  Also, I am sure some of use might be enjoying the chance to light up Johan. :P

Im good with scraping it and letting Johan design and new one to BM.

I think we shoul play this one.  No fight is ever gonna be perfect.  And this one lets us test the X-3s in a non-lethal combat before we take them to the field.  The X-3 pilots will get a chance to see what load outs they like.  And I have a suspicion that if we have them, soemone else might have them also.

I swear you guys always make me out to be meaner and nastier than i really am >.<

What? No....

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ckBl...he+Kitten+Attack.jpg

http://www.roflzoo.com/pics/04...nt-kitten-attack.jpg

http://blog.earnmydegree.com/w...k_animals_kitten.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/al.../MachineGunKitty.gif

Canine propoganda.

They envy our cute furry superior-ness to their cold nose slobbering tongue dumbness.

Slander i tell you.

In reply to Kitten (msg # 31):

I am good with this mission. It ALSO helps us iron out some leadership/style kinks that the entire unit seems to have. Those that have played the board game an Megamech are used to being in control of our entire side and can use our style throughout. Its hard to work with somebody else's style and/or give directions that are not so micromanaged that the rest of the team doesn't really do anything but roll dice.

I honestly dont care one way or another.

If Johan thinks its unfair i'm good with scrapping it missions and letting him write ones that he thinks are fair.  Saves me the time and hassle to work out the numbers.

but those kittens are so cute!!!

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I think the mission is a good idea.
I just think the role of opfor, should be switched for the second run :)

They are. it's noted in the mission that it swaps.

oh, i read through it, and then again to be certain but somehow missed that part, utterly my mistake kitten :(

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in that case i have no other things for it, I'm good with the double 'mission' as it is.

Oh... since this is a non-live fire exercise, I suppose lasers are turned down and damage dealt is extrapolated by internal computer systems.

However for missile and ballistic fire is it more like paintball with damage being extrapolated by internal computer systems?

The reason I ask, is because it would be humorous (to me) for opposing mechs to be splattered with pink paint. :P

Poke - No posts for 24hrs... wild.

I'm waiting to see if Johan wants to make a new mission.  Theres no point in putting any more time in this mission if it's unfair and were not going to play it.

I hope no one lives in Aurora Colorado.  My prayers to the family and friends of the victims.  So sad.

Personally I think its about as fair as you can possibly make it.

I want to do it even if did seem 'unfair'. Life isn't really fair and figuring out how to deal with the bumps is a good thing.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:58, Sat 21 July 2012.

Cade sometimes the crazy of this world makes me shake my head.

I apologize if I leave the impression that we don't want to play the mission.  Like others echoed, life's not always fair.  To be honest, as long as the X-3's don't twink, I think the mission IS <note the lack of qualifiers> fair when Johan is leading and we get pick sides.

That will change notably when Sforza has to lead, but it would be good lesson anyways to see how we adapt.  Perhaps, the relative diminishing penalties on our side will help enough, I tend to think not.  Still, it's a good exercise, because we have certainly been in situations where initiative has been against us and we expect to see them again in the future.  Let's get moving!

Will give Johan the weekend to work stuff out.

I still need to know what map side youre setting up on first.  Then Omni side will need a half day/day to set up their mechs on their side, and then you will set up on yours, and we will start in earnest.

RP will continue through the mission.  I need to set up background on future missions.  After the two wargames resolve we lead into a real mission next.

Oh...

Experience for missions = points scored divided by number of player pilots on the side (fractions, regardless of how small, round up).  Johan's little tank, and the Cadet wont get experience from the mission (well they will, it wont count against the totals is what i meant :P)

It might make Johan's side feel better about exp rewards at least that they're spliting it up among four players instead of five.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:09, Sat 21 July 2012.

We'll start from the north side of the map.  BTW, is it possible to hide inside the buildings?

In reply to Capt. Johan Jakob Hinklemeyer-Schmidt (msg # 45):

Buildings are level one so mechs can not.  Your 5 ton vehichle may, though it'll only have an SRM2 to fight with and they'll be as bad as our cadet.

In reply to Lance Commander Millicent Evans (msg # 46):

I am willing to just not have the Jeep, but its not my decision.

Asking Omni side pilots, where they would like to be placed as we speak.

It's my understanding that Johan will be in command and that his unit will be setting up on the north side (no more than three hexs away from a friendly building.)

Johan, you wanted to be Opforce for the fisrt battle or second?


On the Omni side, Millicient will be in command, and will obviously be setting up on the south side with her unit, no more than three hexs away from an omni building.

Once again, buildings are Level One Light buildings with (40cp).  It's a high tech version of laser tag, with powered down energy, and 'paintball' munitions.  Techs are on the side, with computers, and 'cut offs' to simulate actuator hits, engine hits, or what not.

Physical attacks will do 'one point' of real damage, but simulate their normal damage through the magic of remote computer inflicted damage.

Omni Force placed, Ready for Wild Stallions to be placed.

Did the Wild Stallions want to be Op Force, or wanted the Omni side to be Op Force for the first mission?

Omni Force will be the Op Force in Mission 1, and the Wild Stallions will be the Op Force in Mission 2.

We're ready for placements.  Where should I post them?

post them here will be fine.

Having internet connection issues and still have to finish up some the X-3 load outs (the math and stuff on character sheets), though we should start VERY shortly once i have internet connection (within a day or two).

Okay.

Everyone is placed,we do not start till i have official mech sheets for all the pilots though.  Players are all done, its on me to do the bookkeeping, i have a doctors appointment tommorow so i might not be able to get to it tommorow.  we'll see, i aspire for Thursday for a start date.

I need to finalize the bookkeeping for Johan, Caitlin, and Svend. 

I also need to do Millie as well, since I noticed she had so much cash lying around she was able to purchase an X-3 and an X-3ew.  I need to see what modules she has available (as in can afford).

I aspire to do this tommorow.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:41, Wed 25 July 2012.

Partially waiting on Svend to pick out his end contract shopping.  It may affect his gunnery/pilot skills.

Also waiting on 'me' to do bookkeeping for Caitlin and Finalize bookkeeping on Millie.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:41, Wed 25 July 2012.

ah, i may have jumped the gun on my initiative then, oh well.

Roll intiative if you want.  Make moves if you lost even if you want.

I'm not updating the Mission till i have all the character sheets updated, and a map up though which will be a day or two.

Pick a weapon load for your Hummer, it has a 1.25 ton load so it may load one of the following.

AC/2 Rapid - 8 shots

SRM2 - 8 shots

LRR2 - 18 shots

LRM2 - 18 shots


The Hummer crew has a effect Gunnery of 5 and Drive of 5.

(Dont forget to roll intiative for the Hummer)
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:04, Wed 25 July 2012.

Devlin please plot a move, i may start with out Svend shopping list, and just apply it, when he gives it to me.  (He's coming back from the hospital so i'm cutting him huge slack)

In reply to Kitten (msg # 59):

Noted.  It'll have LRR2's.  I like those LRR's...wish I had the option to put them on my mech!

Eventually... When i have time to open the Auction house, you can look for it. :P

Mission starting then, with the understanding that Svend's stats will be updated when he get around to upddating his end Contract Purchases.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:02, Wed 25 July 2012.

resolution on the battlemap sems terrible to me, can't see hex numbers.

Hi, everybody. I am trying to get back into it. Thanks, Kitten for understanding.

Same here

Had trouble uploading it.

My website is getting uppity with me again.

Map seems to be working now.

units with out a facing are Norh if they're Omni, and South if they're stallions.

Cowboy, post for Svend, i believe he's on medical absence from the game at the moment.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:33, Wed 25 July 2012.

Ouch...

Nice shot Wolfman.  Right out of the gate.  BTW don't forget to roll for how bad the simulated head hit is via 2d6 and watch her simulated gunner and piloting soar through the proverbial roof.

kitten, you may want to update my picture in your unit sheets by the way, this should be the new one:
http://rpol.creativelass.net/fh17042.jpg

In reply to 1st Lt Camille Sforza (msg # 69):

Wolfman may have gotten lucky, but the rest of us are not doing so hot ;-P

Dont forget the hummer

so true, then again, I didn't expect to hit.

fact is, I can't hit anything but stationary targets at the moment ;)

Someone give orders to the Hummer, I'm not holding up the game past tommorrow morning for a 5 ton NPC hummer.

If i dont have orders for it come mornign it sits there and does nothing with a big shoot me sign on it.


Meh.  The hell with it.  If i'm going to let Caitlin walk out there and get shot up, it's fair to leave the Hummer behind when it's been forgotten too.  It parks there and does nothing this turn.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:15, Fri 27 July 2012.

I thought Johan was running that thing?

and then i went to bed, and now we forgot about it, LOL :P

If you were in that Hummer would you want to get into the middle of the big mech fight?

Yeah, that's partly what i was thinking they're use to wargaming with the cadets, something like half a dozen power loaders verse a couple of dozen vehicles, it rarely ends well for the vehicles.

Waiting on Rabbit to take her shots.  Damage is applied and then were into the intiative phase, if the Stallions want, they may roll for intiative.

Waiting on Devlin and Johan.

I should be back in the full swing of things by the end of the week.

Actually Johan, there are LRR2s on the Hummer.

Clearly the gunnery crews forgot what sort of weapon they had installed as they stare in awe of the massive mechs larger than the X-3's they are used to...

Little distracted with stuff, will try and get updates done tonight.

Johan...

Unless I'm mistaken your duce critical was on rear armour and she only has 4 points there so you also did internal.  Unfortunately for us it also means another roll for potential critical.

Correct.  One of his punches also landed.  They're getting some very lucky locations between Devlin's head shot, and Johan's torso hit.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:26, Thu 02 Aug 2012.

kinda hope i still stand after this round, that said, from a rp perspective nothing would be cooler than falling on my face after my bravado towards millie when she met us at the dropship ;)

She took 21 damage and a Gyro Hit. That is 2 piloting rolls at +3 difficulty, at the end of the Weapons Attack Phase, if I am not mistaken. Should she still be 'standing' come the Physical Attack Phase, then the punch would hit. If she is not standing then Johan is doing some shadow boxing in triumph or might be granted a kick, although I would advise against the Kick.

You should be good...

 CT 4-2-2 / RL 2
+3 CT

13 total dmg, 11 to the CT.  You have 18 there so, it is unlikely that you will get a crit.  However all we need is 7 more dmg for a pilot check I think.

His punch landed on the cadet, his weapons fire went past the cadet and into Milli :)

In reply to 1st LT Adam Carlyle (msg # 88):

AH HAH! Well then, GOOD JOB!

I take that back... looks like countess needs a pilot check.

Yup, my Sniper cannon brought it to only 1 point needed and Caitlin pushed it over the hump with her missiles

Well this will be interesting.  After the whole spaceport incident with Mille and Countess, both pilots have to make a check or two to keep standing in the same round.

Interesting indeed.

Against the odds, with a gyro hit, Millie's still standing :P

Not that she's in a happy mood, she's just... still standing.

Waiting on Stallions to roll intiative.

Please note your heat when you roll intiative, the only heat i'm really watching closely at the moment is Millie and Huangs.

Yah, Ive not been tracking heat since I've only been using LRMs and walking... total heat is 7 per turn.  Once I start fireing my MLRs I'll keep closer tabs.

out of curiosity, is all the pilot damage simulated or real?

I'm inclined to call it 'real' but all non-lethal.  It only becomes lethal if you take a serious serious amount of pilot damage.

This message was deleted by the player at 23:32, Fri 03 Aug 2012.

Dont sweat it Camille, it could have very easily have gone the other way with Ghost failing a pilot check, and you still up and at them, which would make this a totally different feel for intiative.  Besides it'll make for neat roleplaying?

I'm presuming Camille will be responsible for the Hummer from now on.  Not much, but you never know when one or two points of damage will be a telling blow somewhere.
This message was last edited by the GM at 11:34, Sat 04 Aug 2012.

In reply to Kitten (msg # 99):

Yeah, it'll add to the roleplaying.
Just hope it'll be gone for the next 'bout'.:

It will.  It only lingers if you were going to stay and risk almost guaranteed mechwarrior damage over it.

Updated Millies movement.

o.O

Will give Caitlin, Adam and Svend (?) til tommorow to post something before posting something for them.

Sorry, should be posting tonight, been logging in via phone.

The map's not quite right....

In reply to Capt. Johan Jakob Hinklemeyer-Schmidt (msg # 105):

what's wrong with it?

In reply to Sgt. Devlin Masters (msg # 88):

Meanwhile, Thanos is having much the same thoughts about the mechs that are behind him. He decides that putting as much distance between them and his backside would be a good idea. Pushing the throttle forward to its max he starts shouldering through the woods. Turning his torso to the West he tries to send ruby bolts of light into building number 2.



OOC:
 Runs directly south to 2935-S With Defense" +1 movement, +1 in Light Woods and at least a +1 for the light woods in 2934 from every opposing mech.

Attacks on Building#2, range 9.
 Medium Range Base 7: -1 Lasers, +2 Running, +1 Light Woods, -4 stationary target = TN5.
 13:47, Today: Cprl. Thanos Starguard rolled 8 using 2d6. LL2 @ Building#2, TN5. HIT
 13:47, Today: Cprl. Thanos Starguard rolled 4 using 2d6. LL1 @ Building#2, TN5. MISS

Building#2 takes 8 damage.

Heat: +3

13:49, Today: Cprl. Thanos Starguard rolled 4 using 2d6. Inish Turn 5, TN7. FAILED

Kitten Footnote:
 Wont change the results, but there are TWO light trees in the way from that hex to target the building.  Defenders may option when it falls on the line, and the building that does not shoot back will always opt to take the extra cover.

It doesn't affect the TN's for Thanos but I only see one set of light woods that could be used for defense.  The woods in 2135 are clearly in the way but none of hte others come close enough to be used.  If Thanos was shooting from 2933 then the woods in 2234 would come into play.  I'm just trying to clarify for future shots.

(2) ML
Base 5 + 2 run + 1 light wood = tn 8+
10:44, Today: Lance Commander Millicent Evans rolled 7,7 using 2d6,2d6. (2) ML tn 7+. (hit/hit)
10:45, Today: Lance Commander Millicent Evans rolled 5,4 using 2d6,2d6. Devlin Rear locations. (5 damage to RA and RL)


Hrmmmmm? Don't 7's miss on a TN8 or are you still editing that post?

In reply to Sgt. Devlin Masters (msg # 107):

Acknowledged.  I stand corrected.

(Gives Thantos a cookie for an apology)
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:03, Wed 08 Aug 2012.

My bad, also correct.  I used Mille's base of 4 by accident when i made the TN for the dice roller.

(Pleads fuzzy head from medication)
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:06, Wed 08 Aug 2012.

In reply to Kitten (msg # 110):

I should have said that Haung has +1 Energy and that you 'rolled' against a TN7 in your roll, but posted it as TN8. I think you made both hits actually. Wolfman is likely going to have to make a piloting check here shortly.

In reply to Cprl. Thanos Starguard (msg # 111):

No.  Fair is fair, youre correct.

Huang has a gunnery of 6, and the energy weapon reduces it to a 5... Her target number should be an 8 this turn.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:14, Wed 08 Aug 2012.

<Streeeeetch>

So.  How is everyone doing?  Saw the latest Batman recently... was pretty good.  Ice Age was ok.  NFL is back....

In reply to Cprl. Cade Murphy (msg # 113):

WELL,

I landed a teaching job 3 hours from where I live.....which means I have to move my entire household out there. That is a pain in the butt, but it beats bringing in $0.00 a week. Come Monday I am reporting at 0730 for training and such. Until I am moved, settle, and have some stability in the classroom I will be a once a day type of person on these boards.

Congrats!  Teachers are awesome!

Is it just my RPOL that nothign is happening all or is there a lull right now everywhere?

A lull in alot of places... i'm playing evidently in the games i help campaign lulled too.

Will try and get an update up here today though.  feeling better.

Svend however... is not.  He will be 'sidelined' for the forseeable future.  He has some personal issues to take care of and like Amos... has requested to be removed from the campaign at this time, with the hopes of returning in the future.

Reaper stop taking my money!!!

http://www.kickstarter.com/pro...-gaming-min?ref=live

Not going to bore you with a long story.

Suffice to say, I've had better months.

We've lost Svend as a player due to health reasons.  He will finish up this scenario as an NPC under Adam, and earn half experience for the mission.  He will join Amos as NPC support that is with the Stallions, but not actively participating in actual combat missions (they're on boring garrison duty here or there guarding critical locations).

I've been meaning to get the missions started up several times the past few days but once you fall out of step with missions it's hard to get back into the groove of things.

We're at the top of the intiative order.  I suggest turning over the omni Humvee to countess but if she doesnt want it, or Johan rather hang on to it, i guess it wont really matter.  Hoping to finish this scenario off soonest, because my life is far from settled at the moment, and there might be a lull before mission two starts, if it starts.

I might skip the actual mission and resolve it with a few dice rolls and move on to the 'next' mission.  At the moment, the wargames feels to be more complicated and irritating that it's realy worth to play out in my opinion.

If you need a day or three to get back in the swing of things on the mission that's okay, my fault for breaking pace.  Hoping to pick up an aggressive post pace again though.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:07, Mon 27 Aug 2012.

I've just started school, after a 3 month break (sigh), so i mgiht be a bit sketchy.

that said, the hummer sounds like a reasonable way to keep me in the loop

So noted.

(ugh)

Okay this is harder than expected...

Time still sort of tight till this week is out.  (I'm hoping my troublesome nephew moves out of the house then and my stress and free time will improve at that point).

Also having trouble getting into the swing of the mission again.  Detailed specifics like ammo used... heat.. damage... and so forth gets fuzzy over time and you have to really invest time to get familiar with the situation again which i just dont have at the moment.

I present you with three options to discuss....

OPTION ONE:
You really want to finish this mission, and youre willing to wait till i have the time to sit and get it moving again.  (est. 10~14 days)


OPTION TWO:
Too much time has passed and you've lost interest in the mission and you want to move on to the next mission.  I'll summerize the results based on what the current situation is and assign experience as i deem appropiate.  (est 2~5 days)


OPTION THREE:
You're really tired of the war games and you want to get to the shooting missions with bad guys, so you can act as a unit again, instead of player vs player missions.  I would summerize this mission and the following day's wargame and forward the timeline to actual combat.  (est 2~7 days)
{Extra time would be required to generate the maps and stuff for the next mission.}
This message was lightly edited by the GM at 15:54, Wed 12 Sept 2012.

It should be noted were down to Seven~Eight players.

To my knowledge Svend has joined Amos on the sidelines.

Active players by my count are...

Johan
Devlin
Thantos

Adam
Cade
Millicent
Caitlin

Camille is currently suffering connection issues and her status is in doubt.

Because of the reorganization required from losing Svend.

I'm good with what ever you guys want to do, though if were looking at it from what i want to do, i would prefer to skip to a shooting mission.  The missing player (Svend) and Camille's uncertain status just mess up the war games too much to continue in my opinion and it's not worth salvaging.  I'd as soon put the energy into a new mission.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:59, Wed 12 Sept 2012.

I am flexible with any of the three options.  That said, I'm leaning to agree with you Kitten.  With Svend being sidelined with Amos and Camille having issues with connection I think summarizing things up with the existing one and the second one would be good.  For those of us in the new rides it means less 'operational practice time' but I think we've got a decent enough handle on how they work.  A new actual mission will re-forge us into a combat unit working together and give us better focus.

I always have fun playing them out (and netting us some xp to keep out pilots getting better) but in the interests of keeping it together and moving cohesively I think three is the way to go here.

Experience will still go out.  Less than originally planed, but experience will still go out for both scenarios.

Think it's a good idea to move on, just due to the lack of posting. Situation has changed, so it's time for us to change.

My connection issues are that, issues, my hardline isn't up so I am using my phone to connect, but i can't keep doing that for an extended period, so I'm trying to limit the amount of time epr day i spend using it.

Basically some retard cut the cable while digging, then for fun and giggles he also pulled it, snapping it somewhere away from where they've been digging.

Phone company still hasn't located the tear, but the area they need to search isnt huge, that said, once they find it, they need to dig...

People digging near cables isn't really working for me these days, i'm half expecting to lose power on their attempt to fix the internet.

-

so I'm around, just can't check multiple times per day as i used to.

And I am exceedingly frustrated, and stressed, since i usually spend about half my waking hours online, much of that time used to relax and chill out form the daily grind.

I'm favoring option 3 also.  It's time to move forward.

Up for anything.  I'm just happy to play.

In reply to Cprl. Cade Murphy (msg # 129):

Option 1

I'm good with any of the options but I think moving on is our best bet.  That is, if those playign the X-3s are comfortable with thier rides.  The rest of us are used to how how mechs work so it's all the same.

I am comfortable enough that I trust I won't do something totally bonkers in our first real engagement.  :)

Since most of you seem okay with moving on (except Thantos)

I'm going to move on, i need to gather a sense of momentum or the game is going to stall perpetually.

Summerizing.

Results posted...

Experience pending...

Roleplaying resuming...

(You may roleplay any point you consider worthy between mission one and two)

(You may roleplay any point you consider worthy within a day after mission two)

(Waves making a shooing motion)

I'll need a few days (read a week or two) to get my shyt together to start the next mission.  Spend it roleplaying and developing 'stuff' out of character.  It might or might not be important later on.
This message was last edited by the GM at 09:28, Thu 13 Sept 2012.

In reply to Kitten (msg # 134):

I could have sworn that the buildings were worth 4 points each.

In reply to Cprl. Thanos Starguard (msg # 135):

You're correct Thantos, when it comes time to do bookkeeping i will adjust it accordingly.

Mission 3

Notes...
For issues of safety for the cadets in your care, First Blood rules are in effect.  First Blood rules ignore the presence of armor.

The object of the lesson is to teach students the concept of avoiding damage altogether.  This will obviously penalize larger and slower mechs that rely on heavier armor to sustain them in a fight..

Such is life.  You probably still have more guns than your counterpart.  The effects of the First Blood rules significantly level the playing field and speed up combat while allowing rookies on the field a chance to contribute with a lucky hit, and an improved chance to survive using the first blood rules.

Combat will take place away from the Academy in the mountains, where a wooded field and lake are the predominent features of the landscape.  (Expect ALOT of woods, expect 50% or more of the board to be wooded.)

Damage is expected to be light, and a combat exercise will take at most 'two' time period to repair.  'one' time period if only armor damage was taken.  A small ground base has been established on the lake, where modest logistics may be set up.  (Standard repair pools are in effect for missions, which should be plenty using first blood rules.)

The logistics base is presumed to handle repairs for (4) mechs at a time.  Parts are on hand for mechwarriors/cadets to make their own repairs should more than (4) mechs require maintenanc at once.

Johan and Adam are responsible for setting up the order of training exercises for the day.  They are broken up into Morning... Afternoon... Evening.  Objectives can be whatever you deem appropiate.  Simple ones off the top of my head is last man standing (fight to defeat one side), capture the flag (capture an objective), one side on offense another (weaker) side in prepared defense of a flag/objective, or something else for you to decide.



Map for Mission 3

http://www.angelickitten.com/rpol/mw/wg/Mission3.jpg

Units not engaged in wargames will be parked in the 'Base Camp' awaiting their turn, or being repaired by the Technicians that have accompanied you for the field training.

You have untill 09/18 to get your 'unit' in (make a cadet/pick weapon load for power loaders) and your thoughts on interesting wargames.

Adam and Johan have until 9/21 to get me scenario notes they would like to run using as much or as little of the map as they want.  It should be noted, that the base camp is 'off limits' and you should not operate withing 3 hexs of the base camp.

If you finish earlier, we will (hopefully) start earlier, would like to have maps and missions out lined by the weekend.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:18, Mon 17 Sept 2012.

LC Evans is piloting her X-3ew
4+ Gunnery
5+ Piloting
6+ Technician
5  Leadership Rating

While it has EW, it should be noted that it is only a 20 tonner.
Since running the EW at full power reduces the heat sinks of the mech to zero, Millie will equip the mech with a Medium Pulse Laser with (3) Heat sinks to minimize the heat burden.


Cadet Isis is an aspiring EW pilot.  She's not there yet but she's getting close.
6+ Gunnery
6+ Pilot
8+ Technician
1  Leadership Rating

Isis is in a standard X-3 Power Loader.  She is using (2) medium lasers in her torso modules to allow her optional momvement speeds by ditching her hand weapon.  For a hand weapon she has selected the AC/6 LBX with a ton of std. (16) and lbx (16) ammo.

Footnote:  For those of you that forgot,
Technician skill = Base Mental tn + 2
This message was last edited by the player at 17:18, Sun 16 Sept 2012.

Call me dense, but I'm not quite sure what the first blood rules mean?  I understand the two hits and it's destroyed, but what does disabled mean?  Critical hits?  What about the torsos?

Slight modification to First blood rules, to be a little more fair to the medium mechs.

Light mech locations are considered destroyed on the first hit.

Medium mech locations are considered Disabled on the fisrt hit, and destroyed on the second hit.

Exceptions, any head hit will have the mech listed as 'destroyed.

Light mechs Center torso are Disabled on the fisrt hit, and destroyed on the second hit.

Medium mech Center torso ignore the first hit, are Disabled on the Second hit, and Destroyed on the Third hit.

Center Torso Disable = 1 Engine and 1 Gyro Hit

Any other location that is disabled, presumes all criticals in the location is are 'destroyed', thought the location is capable of absorbing another hit to prevent damage from transfering to the next location.


So...

A light mech will have a location listed as destroy by any hit that is not a Center Torso.

A medium mech will have a location listed as disabled by the first hit (except the  head and center torso), A second hit will have the location listed as 'destroyed'.  (Destroying all the criticals but leaving the location capable of absorbing another hit).
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:11, Mon 17 Sept 2012.

'Default Cadet'

Will have...
Gunnery    6+  (5+ w/Ballistic)
Pilot      6+
Technician 9+
Leadership 1

Will be in a Standard X-3 Powerloader.
AC/2 Rapid (RT and LT)
Damage 2
Range 3/6/9
Heat 1 (each shot)
Ammo (40)

AC/6 (R~LA)
Damage 6
Range 4/6/8
Ammo (16)

Last day to get information in.

As it stands.
Player X-3s defaults will be loaded with the last weapon load out they had from mission one.

Current list of units available for Mission 3.

Johan - Fire Fly (24) Ammo for LRM 5
w/ Office Candidate Cadet Alice Vunderlen
Gunnery 6 / Pilot 6 / Techncian 9+ / +1 Leadership +1 Noble
X-3 w/ (2) LRR 4 (15/15 Ammo) {torso} SRM 5 (8 ammo) {RA} ML {LA}

Devlin - Whitworth (15) Ammo for SRM 6
w/ Cadet Betty
Gunnery 6 / Pilot 6   {+1 w/ Ballistic Weapons}
X-3 w/ (2) AC/2(Rapid) (40 Ammo) {torso} and AC/6 (16 Ammo) {arms}

Thantos - Black Jack
w/ Cadet Carol
Gunnery 6 / Pilot 6   {+1 w/ Ballistic Weapons}
X-3 w/ (2) AC/2(Rapid) (40 Ammo) {torso} and AC/6 (16 Ammo) {arms}

Camille - Black Jack
w/ Cadet Dana
Gunnery 6 / Pilot 6   {+1 w/ Ballistic Weapons}
X-3 w/ (2) AC/2(Rapid) (40 Ammo) {torso} and AC/6 (16 Ammo) {arms}


Adam - X-3 (Command) w/ (2) ML {torso} and AC/6 (32 ammo){R~L arms}
w/ Officer Candidate Cadet Ellaine
Gunnery 6 / Pilot 6   {+1 w/ Ballistic Weapons}
X-3 w/ (2) AC/2(Rapid) (40 Ammo) {torso} and AC/6 (16 Ammo) {arms}


Caitlin - X-3 (Assault) w/ (2) LRR6 (15/15 Ammo){torso} and Sword {RA}
w/ Cadet Felicia
Gunnery 6 / Pilot 6   {+1 w/ Ballistic Weapons}
X-3 w/ (2) AC/2(Rapid) (40 Ammo) {torso} and AC/6 (16 Ammo) {arms}


Cade - X-3 (standard) w/ (2) ML {torso} and (2) LRM4 (20/20 Ammo){arms}
w/ Cadet Kiren O'Malley
Gunnery 6+ / Pilot 6+ / Technician 9+ / +1 Missiles
X-3 w/ (2) ML {torso} and (2) LRM 4 (20/20 Ammo) {arms}


Millicent - X-3 (Scout) w/Guardian, Medium Pulse and (3) Heat Sinks
w/ Cadet Isis
Gunnery 6+ / Pilot 6+ / Technician 9+ / +1 Technician
X-3 w/ (2) ML {torso} and AC/6(LBX) (16/16 Ammo){arms}

265 ton mercs  w/ 200 ton Cadets Total Tonnage on map
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:30, Wed 19 Sept 2012.

All player characters are instructors. You should feel free to make suggestions on how you go about instructing your cadets.

Training does not need to be limited to the war game slots, though it should be noted that the time slot after participation in wargames, will require some maintenance to remove any damage that might have been inflicted.

Morning time slot runs from 8am to Noon

Noon to 1pm is a break for Lunch

Afternoon time slot runs from 1pm to 5pm

5pm to 6pm is a private/quiet/rest break.

6pm to 8pm is the Evening time slot.

The actual 'war game' spans a matter of minutes.  The rest of the time is spent on 'personal' instruction to your various cadets that do NOT involve firing live munitions.  (to avoid accidents)

Units involved in war games are down after the exercise for repairs.  Pilots are expected to participate with the repairs of their mech as part of the training exercise.

There are one actual Tech on hand, with several assistance on hand, running similiar field exercises.  It seems the concept of in field repairs with minimal tools and supplies on hand is the drill for them.  Under such spartan conditions, their pilots are expected to help with repairs.  It's a novel concept for most of the Eridani, though it's certainly a welcome exercise to help them brush up on Technical work.

and my net is back online, got it yesterday, but i'm backlogged so hard everywhere.

one question: AC/5 'rapid' what does this mean?

See msg 8

On the weapon table thread.

i mean what does 'rapid' do? I can't find a rule for what it does ;)

or is it jsut a name?

In reply to 1st Lt Camille Sforza (msg # 146):

Same as an AC/5 (ultra).

I didnt want to call it an AC/5 ultra, since such exists, to avoid confusion.

Think of it as an AC/5 with a sawed off barrel reducing it's range significantly.  You may fire it 'single' shot or you may fire it 'rapid', and if you hit you roll on the SRM2 chart to see if you hit with one shot or two.  On a roll of '2' to hit, the weapon jams and becomes useless for the fight.  Firing it 'rapid', two hit, one hit, or clear miss, will expend two ammo like an AC/5 ultra.

gotcha :D

Since wargames will be conducted 'enmasse', they will occur in the morning, giving the pilots and tech crews the rest of the morning and afternoon to conduct repairs on the mechs.


A set of actuators are availble for the X-3s

200af or Armor is on hand
'400' points of damage for Auto Canons are on hand.
100 SRMs are on hand
180 LRMs are on hand
180 LRRs are on hand

(2) Heat sinks are availble for use by any mech

(2) AC/2 'rapid' Torso mounts are available for use for the X-3s
(1) AC/6 Auto Canon is avaialble for use for the X-3s

Damage that excedes these supplies do not get repaired in the field.


I require (3) Rolls for each character, and i will be looking for 'margin of success'. Experience for a few days of wargame activity will equate to your margin of success for each roll.  (See Millicent's rolls following this for an example.)

The first roll is to determine your gunnery performance.

The second roll is to determine your pilot performance.

The third roll is to determine your Technical performance.

A roll of '2', '3', or '12' indicates a mishap involving your character happens during the day.

You may opt not to roll and 'take 5' for a roll, likely resulting in failure, or at best modest success to avoid the potential randomness a 2,3, or 12 will create {as determined by me}.

You have until Friday, 9/21 to turn in your rolls.  If you do not do so, you will be presumed to have resolved your rolls with (3) take '5' rolls.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:45, Wed 19 Sept 2012.

Millicent's target rolls.

4+ Gunnery
5+  Pilot
6+  Technician  (your mental stat +2)


14:47, Today: Lance Commander Millicent Evans rolled 5,5,6 using 2d6,2d6,2d6 with rolls of 2,3,2,3,4,2. Wargame rolls Gun/Pilot/Technician



Millie gets (3) experience for 3 successful rolls
Millie gets (1) expereince for 1 margin of success  (add up up total and divide by two, rounding up)

Millie will earn 4 experience points for the day of wargaming.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:43, Wed 19 Sept 2012.

do we roll for the pair as one, or seperately?


Kitten answer
You only make a set of rolls for your pilot.  The Cadets all take '5' for the roll.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:52, Wed 19 Sept 2012.

Cade's Summery

15:57, Today: Cprl. Cade Murphy rolled 11,7,7 using 2d6,2d6,2d6. Gun/Pilot/Tech.

Gunnery    performance '11' = successful +6
Pilot      performance '7' = successful +3
Technician performance '7' = failed

Cade will earn 7 experience points for the day of wargaming.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:43, Wed 19 Sept 2012.

15:09, Today: Sgt. Devlin Masters rolled 8,4,4 using 2d6,2d6,2d6. Success rolls  P,G,T.
                  ROLL
Pilot      = 5     8   Pass +3
Gunnery    = 4     4   Pass
Technician = 8     4   fail

XP = 2 passes + (3/2) = 4 xp


Devlin will earn 4 experience points for the day of wargaming.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:44, Wed 19 Sept 2012.

Please remember, your mechwarriors.. not technicians.  You add two to the target number unless you've been cross trained in Technician.

Current Tally

5 Experience Johan
6 Experience Camille
4 Experience Devlin
3 Experience Thantos


? Experience Adam
? Experience Caitlin
7 Experience Cade

4 Experience Millicent
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:46, Thu 20 Sept 2012.

Johan does an okay job for the day.

4+  Gunnery: pass
5+  Pilot: pass
7+  Technician: fail

15:23, Today: Capt. Johan Jakob Hinklemeyer-Schmidt rolled 7,8,5 using 2d6,2d6,2d6. gunnery/piloting/technician.

Johan will earn 5 experience points for the day of wargaming.
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:06, Wed 19 Sept 2012.

In reply to Capt. Johan Jakob Hinklemeyer-Schmidt (msg # 155):

Pilot      = 5     9   Pass +4
Gunnery    = 4     2   Fail
Technician = 8     7   Fail



3XP and something interesting with Gunnery.


Thanos earns 3 experience points for the day of wargaming.

Thanos is the victem of a shooting accident.  His mech takes damage that the Technicians do not have parts to repair.

20:07, Today: Kitten rolled 7 using 2d6. Location of critical on Thantos' Mech.
20:07, Today: Kitten rolled 2,2 using d6,d6. Location of CT critical.

Thanos' Black Jack has has taken an Engine Hit.  The Technicians on hand do not have parts to fix it properly.  They how ever have displayed impressive ingenuity in attacking the problem reducing the severity of the damage by using liberal application of chewing gum, duct tape, and the two heat sinks that they bought along to reduce the heat generation from 5 points a turn to 3 points a turn.  The Jury Rig may fail on any hit to the center torso, on a roll of 8+.

The Omni Technician crew seems rather pleased with themselves over their jury rig efforts.  Thanos, failing his Technician roll, is unimpressed with their skill and is certain that they are saboutaging his mech just becuase he's a 'merc'.  Eridani Technicians would surely have gotten his mech up and running better with half the duct tape, and skipping the bubblegum altogether.  Thanos can't believe that he's actually missing Scooter, who stayed behind with Amos and Svend.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:15, Thu 20 Sept 2012.

Gunnery: Tn: 5+ = 8 (success)
pilot:   Tn: 5+ = 8 (success)
Tech:    Tn: 7+ = 6 (failed)


03:39, Today: 1st Lt Camille Sforza rolled 8,8,6 using 2d6,2d6,2d6. G: 5/4+,P: 5+, T:7+ .

Camille earns 6 experience points for the day of wargaming.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:45, Thu 20 Sept 2012.

Give me a day and I'll get back into posting.

Gunnery: Tn: 4+ = 7 pass (+3)
pilot:   Tn: 4+ = 3 fail
Tech:    Tn: 7+ = 5 fail

so, do we have time to spend exp?

I am officially behind in bookkeeping.

I am presuming you would prefer for me to make scenarios for you to play than idle and wait for me to finish playing accountant tallying numbers up.

If you feel you have experience to burn at this time let me know, as well as how you'd like to spend it, and i'll make an effort to review your request and give you a green light on a yes or no on what you want.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:20, Thu 20 Sept 2012.

Adam is the last to post rolls.

He's mentioned he might be having connection issues and to not wait for him.

I'll give him tonight to get his rolls in, and if he misses it, tommorow morning i'll start Mission three setup.

You'll have a few days to discuss how you want to set up, and then mission will start in earnest Monday.

I believe I have 25 exp and if that would buy me another +1 to missiles, then I'll take it.  Otherwise, Im OK.

It wont.  Second +1 for missiles will cost you 50 points.

I've decided to make the new mission available.

Adam's rolls wont make too much of a difference, and it cant be too early to get you guys thinking on making dice rolls for repairs.

It might be worthwhile to have the Intructor Technician reconfigure (2) Power Loaders to accept new pilots.

Have Dana and Kiren swap power loaders.  Kiren is injured from Caitlin's attack to the head (giving her +2 to target rolls), while Dana's mech is crippled with a Gyro.  Alternately you can ship them both south, saving the repair points, to repair damage on other mechs.

Spending 8 repair points have them swap, allowing you to ship the injured pilot out with the most damaged mech.

Everyone has an interst in survival, so all pilots will make an effort to repair their own mechs, if their ride is damaged.

Johan and Devlin's mechs have no damage, though they could do with ammo reloads.  They may opt to do with out the ammo reload to assist repairs on someone elses mech.

Millicent will probably go along with Johan's recommendation as long as they seem reasonable and is not totally self serving.

Once repairs are done, the technical crew will rush to pack up and depart the area, the Stallions must buy them time, while reducing the casualties they are likely to receive.

Primary Objective will be to by time for the technicins to depart and to keep your cadets alive.

Secondary Objective is to keep X-3 technology out of their hands.

Tetriary Objective is to cripple/destroy enemy units.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:06, Thu 20 Sept 2012.

It was... unexpected.  Unfortunate but unexpected.  The business of survival was now upon them and Millie got busy.  It was fortunate that mechwarrior field repair training was part of the operations.  It meant there were enough tools to go around.

Grabbing some armor patches, Millie quickly goes to her X-3 scout and starts to weld armor patches over the huge gaping hole that a Medium laser had left as it burnt through the Left torso armor.  Patch after patch was quickly welded in place, till only a few wide cracks here and there called for attention.

A few more patches, a little more time... and it might be as good as new.  She felt a tremble in the ground.  The sensation of huge ponderous foot steps making it's way across the forest.  In the distance plumes of fire could be seen igniting and traveling through the twilight lighting.  They were low on supplies, and now officially out of time.

"Incoming!", Lance Commander calls out a warning to alert the others to that unfriendlies were arriving.

Isis still had her first armor patch in her hand, as she was trying to determined what to repair first.  It all looked bad... the torsos... the arms... everything.  She decided to start work on the left torso, and was still cutting the first patch to fit into the jagged edge of the hole.  Careful to make a snug fitting connection to keep moisture from seeping into the seams.

At the Lance Commanders warning, her head came up and a sensation of panic settled on her.  "Already???", she complained dropping her the armor patch in her hand.  She had piddled her time away being too slow on deciding what to fix, and attempting to make clean pristine final repairs when what was really needed was effective messy ones, like the ones Millie had made.




16:10, Today: Lance Commander Millicent Evans rolled 8,5 using 2d6,2d6. Tech roll  Millie 6+ Isis 8+.

Millie successfully repairs 4af
Isis  fails her repair roll
This message was lightly edited by the player at 20:21, Thu 20 Sept 2012.

Swapping the two mechs is a sound option.  what is the situation for the other mechs?  Do we all need to make repair rolls?

Only if you want to improve the readiness of your mech for combat.

Per Message 2, Cades mech has taken 5 damage in the RA and 5 damage in the LL.

If Kiren is getting stuck piloting Dana's mech, she'll suggest loading it on the Technician flat bed, and letting them work on it while they're on the run.

It would free up the Tech working on Dana's mech to set it up for her to pilot, and free her up to help Cade repair his mech.  {Cade may have Kiren work along, making a 11+ tn for technical work, or accept her as an assistant to help with manual labor, adding +1 to his own Technical efforts}


Camille may presume that Dana moves into Kiren's mech for the battle.  Dana will make an effort to repair damage to the mech's head, and request an assistant Tech to help reinforce the head armor on Kiren's mech.  (this will allow the head location to take a Large Laser without automatically being decapitated)

Post repair/roleplaying 'HERE' and i will move it over to keep non mission stuff from cluttering the mission thread.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:41, Thu 20 Sept 2012.

<looks over at a new thread> Oh THOSE messages... yah... right...

17:14, Today: Cprl. Cade Murphy rolled 9 using 2d6. what me repair?

So +1 = still not much happening on that mech, red head helping or no.

Cade looks at Kiren pained at what he is about to say and then realizes a decent solution.  "Your brain is still rattled and Dana's mech has issues.  The best bet for us all is for the two of you switch mechs and hopefully we'll be able to hold them off long enough", he tells her.  Kiren suggests putting the mech on the flat bed and that makes the idea so much better.  "Sounds great.  You can help me get some armor on my mech and allow the other techs to help get Dana situated", he replies grabbing an wrench and motioning Kiren to follow.

Youre base mental roll is a 7+, so you need a 9+.  Making the roll generates 2 repair points, with Kiren's help you get and extra repair point.

You can fix the Arm... Leg, or opt for reloads.  Be Happy we're not using Mac's system of repairs... it was pretty brutal.
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:00, Thu 20 Sept 2012.

In reply to Kitten (msg # 170):



Well damn.  I miss read your post.  3 repair points ill put to armor repair, legs first.  Ammo won't help if I can't move.

02:36, Today: 1st Lt Camille Sforza rolled 9 using 2d6. tech roll to repair tn 7.

I take it this means i repair 4 points?

I'm willing to allow you to spend the point on the mental stat to reduce your tn to 5+.

So Camille does get 4 repair points for her mech, which will probably be armor repairs.  Throw a roleplaying note together, and let me know what youre repairing.

the thread is clsoed atm.

Devlin will assist Cade with his repairs.


Technician is 8+

07:15, Today: Sgt. Devlin Masters rolled 11 using 2d6. Repairs.



Kitten Note:
Devlin generates 5 repair points

Please specify what you help repair.
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:41, Fri 21 Sept 2012.

Camille wasn't in an entirely happy mood when she went to work repairing the blackjack.

where were that grumpy old fart of a mechanic and his crew, when you needed them?

still she had to patch up the 'jack, especially with the planetary landing alert, so she went to work, cutting, welding and polishing armor plating on her war machine.

most important was the left torso, then the left arm.


2 af repaired on LT, 2 af on LA

Decided to save the Acdemey pilots alot of rolling, just presume the all have one repair point to use which goes to repair armor on the mech they're piloting (except in Cade's case)  Isis gets two, since she has a Techncian background.

Can someone help me figure out what I'mm doign with these repair points?  :-)

Fix 5 af of damage on Cade's mech i guess?

I think Cade was working on the leg for the most part but other parts of his mech were damaged too.

I repaired 3 of 5 points of damage to my mech's leg.  I also have 5 points of damage to an arm.

Thanks for the help!

[Edited for correctness]
This message was last edited by the player at 20:57, Fri 21 Sept 2012.

In reply to Cprl. Cade Murphy (msg # 181):

Devlin's mech is repairer per the roleplaying story (if it was read), curtosy of Devlin's Damage magnet option.

Missed that part. :/

Setup Preview.

The situation.  A company of unknown hostile mechs is advances south on the Wildstallion and Cadet's position.  Last minute repairs are being made to units that have been lightly damaged by a evening of war game drills.

The Technicians are making an effort to escape south to a Ferry which will take them to safety, taking the most damaged and injured units with them.  The rest of the unit is arrayed to stall the advancing invaders arriving from the north.

The opposition is looking to advance through the area and capture Omni's ground breaking technology.  Should they reach the south edge unchallenged, they are presumed to close the gap and capture the Technicians for interrogation which would be disasaterous (decisive defeat).  To avoid this, two friendly mechs must withdraw off the south edge for every enemy mech to avoid defeat.

While not as disasterous, the loss of the power loaders to the enemy is considered undersireable as well.  Each Power Loader lost as salvage will reduce the defenders victory margin by one level.  The loss of more than three as salvage will mean a decisive defeat for the defenders.

Lastly... modified Night Combat rules are in effect, since this battle is taking place just past twilight.  Lighting is poor.  All units gain a +2 Defense modifier from the cover darkness provides them.  This defense modifier is LOST if the mech elects to jump, due to the illumination the Jump Jets provide for attacking mechs.

The Defenders must stall the attackers for ten rounds of combat to ensure that the Technical crew get away.  The defenders may set up anywhere on the map, but no closer than 10 hexes from the north edge (where the enemy will advance in from).

Please make any plans you deem necessary, and decide where your mech, and your cadet (if you still have one) start.

OOC:  Given everything that's happening, we should direct repair work to center torsos on ALL units first!  Let's try to keep critical damage to a minimum.  Besides, most of our mechs are light enough that significant damage to the CT will core them.

Johan's not much help, but at least cadet Alice did something!

22:58, Today: Capt. Johan Jakob Hinklemeyer-Schmidt rolled 10 using 2d6. Alice repairs.
 22:55, Today: Capt. Johan Jakob Hinklemeyer-Schmidt rolled 6 using 2d6. repairs.

Adam is offline at the moment... so i'm going to have him withdraw with Kiren to escort them to safety.

Neither Adam nor Kiren's weight will be counted against you for Op Force Generation.
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:36, Sat 22 Sept 2012.

I know I got an Engine Crit, but 2 double heat sinks. So I am running +5 heat, but sinking 19 a round. Did all of the 'missile' hits get repaired?

Just checking on my mech's readiness and I have no idea where else to ask.

Finally some action where my medium sized mech with its heavier armor will be more useful and its gimpy.

Your current armor damage.  Keep in mind if you take any and a roll of 8+ is made you lose the jury rig repair made on your BJ.

LT 2
RT 2
LL 2
RL 2

In reply to Kitten (msg # 188):

Which will?

I take it since the technical failed as well that the armor damage stays?

In reply to Cprl. Thanos Starguard (msg # 189):

Did you make a new tech roll?  Did you even read the mission thread?  (sounds like you maybe missed it.)

(checks watch)

Op Force already deployed on the map.

Would like to start mission on monday.

can't seem to find a map for this one.

per message 137 of this thread...

http://www.angelickitten.com/rpol/mw/wg/Mission3.jpg

so, Johan in what rough area are we deploying?

At least some of them are coming down the road, its the path of least resistance, and there are no trees in that area, we should plan on putting up some sort of road block there.

Heaviest units, with longest guns.

ie. the two Black Jacks would probably do well placed on the road as a minimum is my recommendation.  Anything that doesnt jump should maybe deploy on the road too.  (Johan and the Assault X-3s).

The rest skirmish out left and right.

What, if any, deployment restrictions do we have?  I wasn't able to see the map (using a mobile here), so I don't know if what's revealed on the map.  For example, are there enemy units shown?  Is this just a race to move off the southern edge?  How many enemy units do we have to take out to make it so we can win?

*bump*

You must stall them for 10 rounds, then you may retreat off the south map edge if there is no enemy unit within 10 hexs of you when you do so.  (map will eventually start to float south, if the enemy is in close pursuit.)

You must retreat two units south for every enemy mech that slips past you, to prevent the enemy mech from catch up and harassing the Omni Technicians retreating south.  After ten turns, it will be presumed that they have enough of a head start to escape and defenders may disengage by departing off the south edge of the map, as long as there is no enemy mech within 10 hexes when they do so.
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:14, Sun 23 Sept 2012.

I would like hex 1515 as my starting (and likely ending place). That way I don't have to move (keeping heat lower) and can cover the road to the edge of the map.

In reply to Cprl. Thanos Starguard (msg # 198):

You could deploy anywhere on the map that you wanted, as long as you were no closer than 10 hexes from the edge.

Let's deploy as far north as we can, so rows XX11 or XX12.  I know that we're in a bit of danger in not knowing what the enemy is, but the forward deployment should force them to slow down earlier, making a delay of 10 rounds easier to achieve.  We can fight a retreating defense if we don't like the odds.  To keep any one of our units from getting killed quickly, I would like a tight formation to keep the enemy in check.  I also want two cadets in jumping X-3's as a backup force in the mid around row XX25, in case any light units run by us.

Let's just go with the middle for the center point of deployment, but avoid the water.  I can't see well enough to choose a space yet, but that's my deployment orders.

In reply to Capt. Johan Jakob Hinklemeyer-Schmidt (msg # 200):


14:59, Today: Cprl. Thanos Starguard rolled 8 using 2d6. Tech Roll.

Repair success = 2pts of armor.

Thanos repairs 1pt of damage on the Left Torso
Thanos repairs 1pt of damage on the Right Torso.

Suggest the two most hurt Cadets to pursue the first unit that exits off the board south.

Hopefully we'll see if they're about to get more than one unit off, and get units in place to pursue if that's the case.

I also suggest we keep the cadets in the rear.

yes they are faster than some of us, but it would be nice to have all of them return :)

There is a nice clearing in the south 2538-ish that could be used to hide away 2 cadets.

didn't mean hide them, jsut keep them behind the rest of us.

I've a feeling we're still going to need them.

I'll deploy in 1710, facing North

deploy 'my' Cadet in 1715

edit: updated, kinda switched numers around, thought he wanted us in 10-11XX rows not in XX10-11 *facepalm*
This message was last edited by the player at 14:49, Tue 25 Sept 2012.

There *IS* a company of mechs in bound from the north.

With out a doubt we'll need them.

Johan, where do you want Millie, she's using her EW suite so she can provide some defensive support.

that said we should keep them in a sort of support role :)

Mission will start tommorow, with my 'best' guess on where you want to be (or should be).

no complaints if you dont give me turns.  anyone without repair rolls in are presumed to 'take 5' and get no repairs.

I'll go at 2917 Facing Nw
09:52, Today: Cprl. Caitlin Mallory rolled 9 using 2d6. Tech roll. pass by 2

My rookie in supporting role along with the others in a reserve

3 Light woods intervening blocks LOS right?

In reply to Cprl. Cade Murphy (msg # 210):

Correct.

Dont forget.  Kitten night time fighting rules, +2 Def modifier, though if you trigger your jump jets that def modifier goes away since youre giving your illuminating your position.

Hey all, sorry for the downtime on my end.

Had some health issues that made me change around some habits so that I could be healthier and productive (and a much lower blood pressure).  Things are going better and I think I'm going to be getting back in this week and Kitten has been kind enough to say she'll put me in the 'backfield' ala defensive position forthe start of this engagement.

That said, as I ramp things back up I may have issues that keep me away and was hoping that if I seem to not log in for a couple days that Johan can pick up my slack so you can still have Cowboy as a productive asset and so Kitten knows that someone is accountable for him should I not be around during the fight.  If you think you're too busy Johan we'll work out who can push my little tin can around for the fight :)

Looks fun. Ready to Rock and roll.

My orders require people to deploy much further forward than was has been posted so far.  Deploying at row 15 or 20 allows the enemy to have a full run for two or three or even more turns.  Deploying further forward forces to slow down their movement earlier and makes our objective easier to achieve.

If your posting contradicts this, please revise your deployment to be in rows XX10 or XX11 accordingly.  Thank you.

I agree that this is a good plan and will choose Alice and Elaine in the rear.


I don't think that being in a clearing or not makes a difference.  That's what jump jets are for.  They also need to deploy further forward to ensure that there's enough space for them to at least shoot at the enemy on the board for a bit.

Where are you going to be Johan?

Im debating on 1311 or 2610

Stuff is up.  Live with it.  It's a broad front and no matter how you set up it was going to feel sub optimum.

Characters were placed where they requested.  If they're out of position presume it the confusion of the rush out of base camp to meet the enemy.  Cadets were placed within 3 hexes of their mentors at my discretion unless i was told to place them specifically further.

Fog of war is somewhat in effect here, you wont know for sure what youre shooting at till youre within 3 hexs to identify the unit, which some of you might presume to be too damn close.

Not totally fair, but the op force is presuming they're dealing with nothing but X-3s.

The presense of the Blackjack and Whitworth have piqued their interest since obviously they're too heavy to be X-3s.

I believe you have Dana in the wrong mech.

In reply to Cprl. Cade Murphy (msg # 218):

no.  I dont since i havent put up new updates since repairs were done, (where she and Kiren swap mechs).

That's simply noting the mech repairs for me after the repair phase, so that i know what Kiren's mech looks like should it be needed for the next mission.

It would be a fair guess, that most... if not all the mechs on the road are non-jumpers.

That being the case, it would be a fair guess that most... if not all the mechs off the road are jumpers.

(Just a useless observation of the obvious.)

It should be noted that the cadets are not seasoned soldiers.  This is their first 'real' combat engagement and under certain circumstances, they may be prone to panic.

(Should a location be blown off, they will need to make a base mental roll to avoid panic/routing during intiative phase.  Should they rout they will jump south, for the max allowable distance.)

Camille...
Power Loaders move 4/6/4


So youre making a run if you turn and move 4 hexes.

Either you will be running, or you should only move 3 hexes.

This early in the game, with blind opponents that have plotted moves for the first few turns, i dont see the point to start private messages.

That said, if you feel you must have them, as a point of fairness, i will allow them.  I will disregard private messages since it is irritating to check for messages that are not there, and obviously not addressed to me.  If you need to drop me a note, do so in a public message with a private tag to me.

Would like to see intiatives all rolled for.  (48 hour deadline on getting intiative/first moves in are in effect.)

Units that have not rolled/plotted intiative by then, will have been presumed to 'lost' and stand still like a deer staring at headlights.

What's your take on commanders rolling and moving people on their behalf?

I have no problem with it, if the player (like adam) has indicated a (temporary) issue with logging in.

I changed my move order for Dana :)

Youve got the most obnoxious intiaitve roll cade :P

Because I did the math or because its a TN5? :)

Just want to make sure Im doing things right.

In reply to Cprl. Cade Murphy (msg # 228):

cause it's a tn5+

i think it might be the lowest in the unit.  That honor use to go to Caitlin.

Waiting on Caitlin and Thantos.

If i dont have orders for them by tommmorow night (20 hours from this post), I will accept orders from Johan for the pilots and Cadets they control, to resolve the following morning.
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:34, Wed 26 Sept 2012.

yeah, now I recall what I was considering as an alternative to my +1 mental +1 edge.
piloting.

still edge is more universally usefull, and mental is good for the unit if johan takes a dive.

map being updated, just waiting on Caitlin's input.  (so that it'll go up that much quicker after Caitlin's turns are made)

If youre changing your move best let me know here that you are.

Devlin

Looking over your turn orders.  You do realize youre moving through light woods and each one cost two movement point to move through?

Please review your turns, and rework them.

Waiting on Caitlin and Devlin

If i dont have orders for them by tonight (~11 hours from this post), I will accept orders from Johan for the pilots and Cadets they control, to resolve the following morning.

So there are no misunderstanding, per standing house rules, if the player does not make the Intiative roll they automatically lose intiative.  Johan, will simply be plotting movement orders for their lost intiative.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:12, Wed 26 Sept 2012.

Remember...

We dont 'HAVE' to destroy them.  Just stall them.

It's preferable that we not mangle ourselves to the point of losing mechs either.

To this end, the terrain, and night conditions can be a great friend, or a nightmare for us.  Work it to your favor and dont fight what may be a dubious advantage into a handicap.

Can I clear trees with my lasers?

In reply to Cprl. Cade Murphy (msg # 236):

There are alot of trees if youre going to try.  The rules for clearing them, make them a real pain in the arse to do too.  I'd have to look them up if you really want to, and then you'll probably wont clear them anyway when you see how horrible the rolls are.

in other words, don't mess with trees, for ents are quick to anger, and hazardous to electrical wiring ;)

No problem.  leave the trees be. :)

Also... There are SO MANY TREES that i cant see one more or less making much of a long term tactical difference to make looking them up worth while.  It's not like they're dug in and using them for cover, or theres a shortage of trees for them to use as cover.

It used to be that one has to only roll 2d6 against the damage of the lasers to clear trees.  Nowadays, you have to do 30 or more points of damage to clear trees.  It's no longer worth it, unless you have NOTHING to do, and it's the only trees around.  In this battlefield, it makes no sense to do so.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:27, Wed 26 Sept 2012.

I remember it use to be even more simple, when the game was simply battle droids.  Trees have gotten harder and harder to kill as the editions moved on.

30 damage is a good alpha strike for alot of mechs and then some.  Though at least at point blank range all the SRMs will hit :D

Setting fires MIGHT have some merit.  I'd rule that there was illumination in the hex, and adjacent hexs, though smoke would ruin four of the seven hexes this advantage might offer.

Again, given the map, i would be against it.  it's not worth the trouble, and truthfully using it will probably hurt you more than help you.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:46, Wed 26 Sept 2012.

Devlin has an illegal move on the records for the turn of movement, so i will plot his movement as requested till the legal movement points run out.


2614n is a jump of 5 for Felicia, she will land in 2615n
This message was last edited by the GM at 11:51, Thu 27 Sept 2012.

Turns updated.

Were into Eridani Second movement and fire phase.

Three Op Force Mechs have been identified.

If we can resolve this phase my Friday Night i will aspire to post an update Friday night (or earlier?) so that you can mull over a new turn over the weekend.
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:43, Thu 27 Sept 2012.

WTB: target painter!

In reply to 1st Lt Camille Sforza (msg # 245):

o.O

for what effect you have no artillary and no one is using indirect fire LRMs.

In reply to 1st Lt Camille Sforza (msg # 245):

Footnote:

Elaine is at range 8 to the Locust, Medium Range for her AC/6.  So she had no shot.

nvm... i confused Dana and Elaine for some reason... >.<
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:23, Thu 27 Sept 2012.

I've put Isis at 1514n to road block them, for now, thinking ahead she wont be able to hold that position since the two heavies are only a turn or so back from supporting those lights to break through.

We really need to get someone to 1613 to close the road to them.

The Locust and Mongoose arent going to enjoy going through trees and water to get around them, but if we dont close the dirt path to them, they're going to be murder to track down with night modifiers.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:12, Thu 27 Sept 2012.

Betty should be in 1210n on a walk.  Map being updated.

Should have Betty's correct position as well as...

Isis' Jump

Adam and Elaines movement

Camille's movement
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:31, Thu 27 Sept 2012.

Waiting on Cade to move before i can fire.

Waiting on Cade and Devlin to fire to wrap up the turn.

(Caitlin has no shot.)

Aspire to have turns done by tongiht so that i can get a new turn up for the weekend.

If Devlin, Cade, and Caitlin dont get their fire orders in, they will be presumed to be 'cooling off'.

Johan may issue orders for Cade if he does not get orders in by tonight (12 hours from the posting of this message)

Please see message 22
I moved and shot at the ground in front of the locust.

My bad.  Missed that.

Will resolve Op Force then, and move the turn sequence forward.

Devlin can take their shots before he rolls for intiative (presuming he makes them before the weekend is over)..

Np.

Question:  How does punching work?  Piloting or Gunnery?

based on piloting, not gunnery.  (points to the pdf)

Go read up on it in the pdf.

Looks like the second heavy mech is a Rifleman mod at a guess...

In reply to 1st LT Adam Carlyle (msg # 256):

No many heavy mechs use a double AC/10 modification.  This is probably likely.

In reply to 1st LT Adam Carlyle (msg # 256):

In retrospect, i probably should have just noted autocanons fired and missed, in the time to 'real' time to examine the information, it's unlikely anyone is really going to notice it was 'ac/10s' firing from the mech especially since they missed.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:47, Fri 28 Sept 2012.

What read?  Bah!  I want to be fed information when I ask it....

<goes over to the pdf>
not much here.  Makes reference to BT core books.
<goes to BT book>

Ahhh ok.

1 pt dmg per 10 tons... 2.5 dmg for a power loader....
If someone punches 2 times with a power loader and hits the same location do you give them 5 dmg total? :)

You could have indeed said a pair of autocannons went off.

Then I would have said,

Looks like we've got a Rifleman or a Jagermech coming down the road since they are about the only heavy mechs with dual autocannons...and being a ballistic specialist Cowboy certainly knows his guns.

Each punch does 3.  Unless they changed something somewhere in Total Warfare or Kitten added it to her pdf that I hmisread it normally gets rounded up.

damage is correct.

base roll for a punch is 4+ along with the usual modifications, i add one giving you a bonus if you have a better Pilot skill roll than five, or a penalty if you have a worse pilot roll than five.

(A pilot skill roll is considered 'average').

Quicky question...is hex 1413 considered to be a light wood hex?  I can't tell.

Consider it a clear hex.

It's a mess.  I dont think we really need  EW jamming at this time.  Stand off snipe firing doesnt seem to be the method of combat that will be used for this mission so Millie is just going to position for combat and not use EW unless told otherwise.

Okay one more time...

LIGHT GREEN HEXES ARE LIGHT WOODS AND COST 2 MP TO MOVE THROUGH.

Please take a second look at Dana's move Camille.  She's moved through 2 light hexs, just by going forward, so she cant possibly get to where you want to get her.

Just an observation, Caitlins on the Right flank with half a dozen unidentified mechs infront of her.  Two of them medium.
This message was last updated by the player at 18:01, Fri 28 Sept 2012.

ahhh

fair enough, thought the really bright, almsot lime green was forest, and the regular green was grass.

No, the darker green is heavy woods... 3mp to move through.

If the light green hexs were just grass, would the Mongoose and Locust really be where they are now?
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:02, Fri 28 Sept 2012.

ah okay, just to me the small patches of green look might lgihter in color than the general mass of green.

is grey difficult ground, or mountains (and thus still difficult ground), I'm almost assuming it's not mountains since there's no elevation listed.

In reply to 1st Lt Camille Sforza (msg # 269):

Actually that's suppose to be 'blue'

Level one water, and the darker 'blue' is level 2 water

Not so great to move through, okay to stand in if youre running hot and you have sinks in your legs, worthless for cover.

I didnt feel like typing level one and two in all the colored hexes, which is pretty much... everything just about, except for a bit of the dirt road.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:11, Fri 28 Sept 2012.

Well depending on where Dana goes I may shift Elaine's final position...

her move is already altered, lol :)

Coo coo, Elaine will hop to off in the other direction then for this round then.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:37, Mon 01 Oct 2012.

Waiting on Johan and Caitlin.

Caitlin was in just yesterday, so i'm willing to give her a day or so to try and get her turn in.  If not i will accept order from Johan to move her tonight, so that i may move op force to get to Eridani fire phase.

Still waiting on Johan and Caitlin to roll intiative.

Okay~

Johan has been in and out all weekend, so i dont feel bad about putting a four hour deadline on ending intiative.  He's had well over two days to get get his turns in.

Intiative phase ends in 3 hours and 45 minutes.  Johan and Caitlin will have been presumed to have lost intiative and their chance to move if i dont see intiative rolls (and movements if they lost) by that time.

With a pair of heavies down the road ready to stroll up to him to say hello, i'm sure his command would cheer and foot their op forces salary if they manage to relieve Johan of command permanently.
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:13, Mon 01 Oct 2012.

does that pass responsibility for caitlinns action on to me?



Kitten Note:
So noted, though i believe Adam has senority on you.  If players dont roll they automatically lose intiative.  If no one puts orders in, they play the deer in headlights game.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:41, Mon 01 Oct 2012.

15 minutes, i'm going to take a short break to grab a bite.  Then i'm coming back (should be after 12 by then, and will lock the thread for updates.)

tick-tock.

ah true, I won't mind if adam moves people when they're slacking, makes my life easier, I'm already juggling two games of my own, your pathfinder game, school work, and trying to get back in the saddle in general after a couple of personally horrible months.

thread closing and being updated.

(Helpful reminder... Dont forget the cadets you control...)

per message 18, in mission thread.

Cadet Betty
Gunnery 6 / Pilot 6   {+1 w/ Ballistic Weapons}
X-3 w/ (2) AC/2(Rapid) (40 Ammo) {torso} and AC/6 (16 Ammo) {arms}

it should be noted that there are 'two' AC/2s and that while the range is much shorter than the normal AC/2, they may fire like the AC/5 Ultra, firing two rounds, and rolling on the '2' missile chart should you hit to determine if the second round hits.  Weapons will be presumed to fire SINGLE unless i see a x2 notation on the dice roll.  Firing double goes through ammo twice as fast, generates double the heat, and will jam the weapon on a natural two.

The AC/6 is considered a two handed weapon, and will be disabled on potential criticals to either arm.

This is being noted at this time to avoid confusion, since Betty is armed with the default weapon load of most cadets.  Cadets that were assigned a different load by the player, are of course, armed with what was requested.

(Kiren's Power Loader had the weapons swaped for Dana's weapons.)

I'm willing to count Betty's two rolls, as the two AC/2s firing single and missing, leaving the AC/6 left to resolve.
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:00, Mon 01 Oct 2012.

wait, I actually went and set Dana up with the standard template, on purpose?

ROFL!

I can't access the combat tables i've used to use (the ones you link to at "manwe" site.)
so can't determine what a location 10 hit gives me.

-

edited my post in the combat thread with dana's shots.
she actually had some good opportunities this round, considering how bad the cadets are ;)
This message was last edited by the player at 07:43, Tue 02 Oct 2012.

'The link i gave you', isnt very helpful.

Is this the link in question?

link to a message in this game

Can I walk backwards to 2116 or is 2015 considered lt woods?

In reply to Cprl. Cade Murphy (msg # 286):

2015 is considered woods.

Fire Phase waiting on Adam, Cade, Caitlin, and Johan.

With half the unit not turning in turns, i'm inclined to wait a bit.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:19, Tue 02 Oct 2012.

was referring to this link:
http://manwe.teuse.net/games/b...ch/btech_charts.html
which had pretty much any table I've needed for Mech to mech combat.

can't fight the post you ahd it listed in right now though, so... can't say where it was in, but it was one of those rules threads for MW.

In reply to 1st Lt Camille Sforza (msg # 289):

That link still works?

not to me, it worked the last time I needed to use it, but not this time around *sadface*

Johan and Alice are the last to fire.  Will give him at least till tonight to resolve.

If he doesnt get weapon fire in by then will accept first persons rolls, for alice and johan (any rolls are better than no rolls).

All Eridani movements are done, so will resolve Op Force weapon fire soon.

If he doesn't log in to fire by tonight I'll see about handling that tomorrow morning then.

I believe I should be facing SE.

you were originally facing NW on the map.

Two Right turns would have you facing NE.
Two Left turns would have you facing S.

I dont see how you can get a SE out of two turns when youre originally facing NW.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:51, Tue 02 Oct 2012.

In reply to Kitten (msg # 295):

"Move: Turn RTx2, FWD1, Turn RT"


I think you missed the final RT turn.

3 RTs total.

o.O

I thought that was a torso turn for some reason.  Okay so noted. SE.

found a new set of tables:
http://www.pryderockindustries..._bt_bmrr_tw_grey.pdf

unless someone tells me these are wrong I'll be using them for my future dice rolling ;)

In reply to Cprl. Cade Murphy (msg # 296):

btw, Cade has used a total of 9 shots.  (7 were used in the previous war game exercise)

There may be some small discrepencies since that's using the Master Rules Revised set rather than the Total Warfare set which is what I think we're running by.  I don't have the time to look at them all right now and verify them but I'll see what I can do about getting the Total Warfare stuff somehow up if I can.

If it's just for location charts, and number of missiles, it should be fine.

In reply to Kitten (msg # 299):

Did I mis-read that part?  Is it 7 per load IE:14 total or just 7?  I split the 7 to 4/3 and applied them to the different launchers.

IE:
Ammo: 15/16
or
Ammo: 12/12

I can't seem to find a mech location table in this game, I've been looking, which is why I had to 'outsource'

there are tables for pretty mcuh any other form of target, if I am wrong simply point me at the correct post.

If it's those basics you want I've got this in my scratch pad...

BATTLEMECH HIT LOCATION TABLE
Roll  Left Side    Front/Rear    Right Side
2*    L Torso Crit C Torso Crit  R Torso Crit
3     Left Leg     Right Arm     Right Leg
4     Left Arm     Right Arm     Right Arm
5     Left Arm     Right Leg     Right Arm
6     Left Leg     Right Torso   Right Leg
7     Left Torso   C Torso       Right Torso
8     C Torso      Left Torso    C Torso
9     Right Torso  Left Leg      Left Torso
10    Right Arm    Left Arm      Left Arm
11    Right Leg    Left Arm      Left Leg
12    Head         Head          Head
* Potential Crit, Roll as if having penetrated armour

DIE (2D6) NUMBER OF MISSILES FIRED
     2  3  4  5  6  9  10  12  15  20
2    1  1  1  1  2  3  3   4   5   6
3    1  1  2  2  2  3  3   4   5   6
4    1  1  2  2  3  4  4   5   6   9
5    1  2  2  3  3  5  6   8   9   12
6    1  2  2  3  4  5  6   8   9   12
7    1  2  3  3  4  5  6   8   9   12
8    2  2  3  3  4  5  6   8   9   12
9    2  2  3  4  5  7  8   10  12  16
10   2  3  3  4  5  7  8   10  12  16
11   2  3  4  5  6  9  10  12  15  20
12   2  3  4  5  6  9  10  12  15  20

DETERMINING CRITICAL HITS
Die   Effect
2-7   No Crit
8-9   Roll 1 Crit Loc
10-11 Roll 2 Crit Locs
12    Head/Limb Blown Off/Roll 3 Crit Locs*
* Roll 3 crit locs if the attack strikes the torso

BATTLEMECH PUNCH LOCATION TABLE
D6 LEFT SIDE     FRONT/REAR    RIGHT SIDE
1  Left Torso    Left Arm      Right Torso
2  Left Torso    Left Torso    Right Torso
3  Center Torso  Center Torso  Center Torso
4  Left Arm      Right Torso   Right Arm
5  Left Arm      Right Arm     Right Arm
6  Head          Head          Head

BATTLEMECH KICK LOCATION TABLE
Die LEFT SIDE  FRONT/REAR  RIGHT SIDE
1-3 Left Leg   Right Leg   Right Leg
4-6 Left Leg   Left Leg    Right Leg

FACING AFTER A FALL TABLE
Roll NEW FACING          HIT LOC
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In reply to Cprl. Cade Murphy (msg # 302):

I'm counting up for total munitions used.  I should be tracking them for each launcher, but i'm just counting one number at this point in time, since i doubt you'll run out.  It might make difference for later scenarios.  Not right now.

In reply to Kitten (msg # 305):

Okay, then my post should be correct with the 15/16 note.

In reply to Cprl. Cade Murphy (msg # 306):

Did BLueblood actually move yet?

In reply to Cprl. Thanos Starguard (msg # 307):

His move was 'stand there'.

Waiting for him to shoot and roll intiative.  If he doesnt Adam will roll his weapon fire and move him if need be during intiative.  He's been on, just... not turning in turns or posting anywhere i can see.

I'm presuming real life is keeping him too busy to participate at this time, unless someone tells me different.  I dont see anything in the doctors note area, so i'm presuming its a short term distraction or something really serious beyond the scope of a game, requiring his attention.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:19, Wed 03 Oct 2012.

o.O

Waiting on Johan still.

Not sure what the deal is.

If were all tired with the campaign, I'm good with packing it in and calling it a day.  we had a good run, alot of fun (i think), and if it's time to close up the shot, i'm good with that.

In reply to Kitten (msg # 309):

Life happens.  Im still in.

I'll be taking shots for Johan and Alice and rolling their init in a few minutes so we can keep a going.

I'm still in.

*hugs cade*

you're new, so i'm sure it's still fresh and new to you.  So i feel bad for you the most, you deserve better.

The game however has been running for well over a year now, and the truth is, its not alot of fun for me to gamemaster any more.  The game is at a crossroad where i have to put alot of time and energy into updating bookkeeping, and i have to admit i dont have the motivation to do so.

I had an Epithany this morning that the campaign is starting to feel like work, and work i no longer want to do.  I suspect it would be a bad idea to hand the campaign over to someone over to run, but i'm willing to do that.

I suspect... if someone really has the time, energy, and interest, they might be better off starting a new campaign.  I would offer and suggest using my roleplaying rules for such a campaign since they are much simplier than the Mechwarrior rules, and have more depth than the simplified battletech advancement rules.

Part of the reason i'm doing this, is because there are other campaigns i need to invest time in, or would like to start up and run, that have been idling for over a year now for lack of time to start them.  Honestly these pet projects look like a more worthwhile investment of my time.

Johan and Devlin are both BMs and have the technical know how to run a campaign if they wanted to.  Thantos has made the effort a while ago using Mechwarrior, which while not working out shows a desire and effort to run a campaign.

The more i think about it, the more i conclude this is the correct decision for me.
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:15, Wed 03 Oct 2012.

I've been with ya in games for some time now so I know you gotta do what you feel right about Kitten.  I'll miss Cowboy and the entire group we have here (minus the ones of course that have shown up in your Pathfinder and I know about of course *chuckles*) and setting but totally understand your reasoning. :)

It also saves me the time of hunting down all the specs on Johan and Alice and their mechs this morning and focus on Humanity's Twilight this morning. ;)

This is my sentiment as well.

In reply to Kitten (msg # 312):

Being a gm myself, I completely understand.  Good luck with your next projects.  It is possible that we may cross paths again.

I have a long standing Pathfinder campaign that i've been neglecting, that should get back on track with a little more time and attention on my part.

If anyone is looking for one let me know.

I'll probably start a percy jackson game in the near future when i'm feeling lucky and i'd really like more time to reinvest in developing my Damsels and Deathtraps game.

So while this campaign still has life, it just doesnt have enough of my interest for me to personally invest time to keep chugging away at.

Well I'm totally going to download this campaign down into my books.  I may be a really reluctant GM at times but all the wonderful life and nuances that were breathed into it might stir me down the line to but sadly not now with my own RL roller coaster going on in the background.

In reply to 1st LT Adam Carlyle (msg # 317):

Best do that soon if that's what you want.  Please consider this official notice, that this forum will be flagged and slatted for deletion by this time next week.

It has been a honor and fun playing with you, but when it's time to go, it's time to go, and i like to think that i have the good sense to get out before things hit rock bottom.

this sucks, but I suppose we had it coming.

and rather this campaing than humanitys' twillight

If I were not in my Sophmore year of college at age 50 I would be willing ot continue this game.  But I just don't have the time right to put into runnign a BT game.  I have enjoyed your game very much Kitten, despite some of rants about different rules.  Good Luck in all you do.

I'll do it tonight then just to be sure.

I do try and have a roleplaying element in the campaign, not an easy thing for a game that is as combat oriented as Battletech.  It's has been asked, where exactly the game was going and what my plans for the unit were on Omni.

With the campaign folding i guess i can reveal the plot i had planned on Omni.

Omni was my first step to introduce the clans into the game.

They're not the warrior caste, that later shows up that youre all familiar with that chew up the inner sphere.  I thought it might have been interesting to see how things might have developed from the other end.  A migration of a coalition from the Merchant, Technical/Science Caste that are acknowledge but never in detail in the novels.

This is why Omni is a thriving economic power house in the middle of the periphery and a beacon of technical wonders.  This is also why they're next to worthless in a fight, they're not genetically bred to fight but to make money and develop technology.  The theory being why conquer Terra, when you can slowly buy your way into influence on the world.

The reason why the Eridani show up is because the Tautauren Concord is chewing up and forcing periphery states into their alliance.  Omni would be a jewel in such a coalition.  They've raided the world in the past and are familiar with the Power Loaders and know enough about them to see the potential.  So the early contracts were to defend the planet, retake the planet, and so forth, similiar to Hoth.

Eventually at a crucial point, it would come out what Omni's intentions were, and the unit would have to pick between choices of evil.  An aggressive periphery state looking to swallow whole planets into their alliance or a threat from beyond the periphery that threatens to take over the Inner sphere from within by a Com Star ROM agent.  A little digging would reveal that comstar is no angel in this and wants Omni's tech as well.

Where the campaign went from there, depended on who the unit threw their lot in with and fought for.

Viola, with that, you know i'm really killing the campaign because i've just given you the whole plot for it.

This game has indeed been a lot of fun. I admit I had more fun as the crew of the pegasus than later as the mechwarrior, but it's been a fun ride and I don't regret a moment. I look forward to continuing the pathfinder game. Thank you for running this!

Understood. Accepted. Ratified.

My other game died because I started working 11-13 hour days on my feet, 6 days a week and my little girl went from sitting to crawling. I could somewhat keep up with games, but certainly not GM. I am in no better a situation now, since I have 10-11 hour work days, trainings every other Saturday, about 8 hours of grading every week to fit in somewhere, and a walking 15 month old.

No worries Thantos, will mothball the thread tommorow then.  It will give Adam a time to pull off what ever it is that he wants from the game, I've given him general access to all the game threads (though not the private messages)

Thanks much Kitten :)

Course sadly the two threads that went over 1000 posts (aka ooc's) I can't view all to sum it up and save it cleanly.  So our bantering about either random or on topic things will be lost to the ages...

Perhaps it's for the better ;)

it probably is.

if anyone could run a small'ish campaign i'd love to take part, but, this has beena  good rn, with a few bumps here and there, but mostly good :)

If someone does want to run a small campaign, let me know.

I have no problems playing in one, i'm just tired of the time and energy that has to go into upkeeping one.  It was a stop gap for idle hands till Mac came back was how i was viewing it.  After a year, i have to admit... Mac's not coming back.