steelsmiter
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Sat 6 Oct 2018
at 21:00
IC my Criminal Sandbox game in Saints Row 4 v. 2
So I've got an RPG I've been wanting to test for a while for running criminal sandboxes, but I was drained of ideas and rpol specific motivation for a while. I've been thinking...

It occured to me that part of the reason I wrote the game the way I did was because of unhappiness with Saints Row 4. I get why they went that route, and even why Agents of Mayhem came about. I don't have objections to either of them as games, but they feel much less "Criminal Sandbox", and more specifically, much less "Saints Row". As a result, I want to set up a game with certain design intent:

  • Saints Row 3 happened.
  • Saints Row 4 was a TV show, and Gat out of Hell was a halloween special mini-series.
  • Agents of Mayhem is a spin-off TV series from the combined conclusions of both.
  • The real "Playa", and his closest lieutenants come up missing.
  • The characters in this game go to an alliterative city... tentatively called San Angelos. I dunno, something with an S in it.


Intended rating is ADULT because I hate censorship, although if you're worried about sexuality you should be aware you clicked on an interest check about the tabletop version of a video game featuring a weapon sized sex toy.
I miss my crayon
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Tue 9 Oct 2018
at 15:46
IC my Criminal Sandbox game in Saints Row 4 v. 2
I'd be interested in this!
steelsmiter
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Wed 10 Oct 2018
at 05:18
IC my Criminal Sandbox game in Saints Row 4 v. 2
Awesome! I will take anywhere from 4-6 players, because I feel like there's always gonna be people who don't follow through, and I would prefer at least 3 PCs so I don't have to make a GMPC.

I wrote it with the intention that if GMs get bored, they can actually write up a character that will be something akin to Kenzie from SR3+ or Lester from GTA V and not interfere with the characters in any way. So even if I did use the name Kenzie Kensington (because she's the only one probably crafty enough to not get lost amongst the ones our group would be looking for) It'd be just as likely as the name I'd assign the GM role as an actual character.
Quindiesel
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Wed 21 Nov 2018
at 21:42
IC my Criminal Sandbox game in Saints Row 4 v. 2
I'll be down, so that makes me #2
steelsmiter
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Wed 21 Nov 2018
at 21:44
IC my Criminal Sandbox game in Saints Row 4 v. 2
Awesome. This means I can either start a game and possibly have to make make a GMPC, or wait for 1-4 more people and not make a GMPC. Either of you have opinions on that?
baxtheslayer
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Thu 22 Nov 2018
at 01:51
IC my Criminal Sandbox game in Saints Row 4 v. 2
So... Never played Saints Row.  Honestly, cause I originally thought it was like GTA and then saw a bunch of crazy super powers and people coming out of hell and it confused me, lol.

I have played lots of GTA, though.  So, tentatively interested in a criminal sandbox style game, but depends on how wacky it will be based on the source material.

What system you had in mind?

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steelsmiter
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Thu 22 Nov 2018
at 04:09
Re: IC my Criminal Sandbox game in Saints Row 4 v. 2
baxtheslayer:
So... Never played Saints Row.  Honestly, cause I originally thought it was like GTA and then saw a bunch of crazy super powers and people coming out of hell and it confused me, lol.

I have played lots of GTA, though.  So, tentatively interested in a criminal sandbox style game, but depends on how wacky it will be based on the source material.

Well, as of 3 the only supers stuff happened because of a commercial for one, and radiation for the other. but the system is written such that those can be written off to being high. Probably no worse than Michael De Santa's flight sequence. But Saints Row is literally a parody on criminal sandboxes until they backed themselves into an alien invasion corner. I'm saying most if not all of that happened on the TV in "my version" of the Saints Row universe.

quote:
What system you had in mind?

I wrote it. It's literally my criminal sandbox game, but I can't name it on the off chance it breaks a rule they have somewhere around here about referencing games you're running or whatever.
steelsmiter
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Fri 23 Nov 2018
at 19:50
Re: IC my Criminal Sandbox game in Saints Row 4 v. 2
Oh one of the things I thought I'd point out is since it's a Saints Row 4+ alternate reality, once I do set the game up, the stand alone 3 and 4 character creators for free on steam (Initiation Station and Inauguration Station respectively) are permitted to be used to create characters. I'll be using a few specific Wikia entries for pricing guidelines as well.

I also wanted to take the opportunity to describe a few details about the game

it uses d10 dice pools with target numbers (and tables to show the odds of hitting a given total at a typical expected number of dice)
The attributes are designed closer to GTA V Online attributes with more special abilities (Michael, Trevor, and Franklin are assumed to have Shooting, Driving, and Stamina special abilities, but I'm only explaining that for context. They aren't in the Saints Row universe.)

This message was last edited by the user at 20:27, Fri 23 Nov.