Coridan
 member, 200 posts
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 17:14
[Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
So, I tried to run two large scale, sweeping Force and Destiny games, and found that I bit off way more than I could chew. I failed my players, and ended up having to cancel both games.

I want to try again, but this time I want to go with a very pared down premise - three Force-sensitives who are hiding with the Rebel Alliance. Their mission - they are given a ship, and are sent to seek out any knowledge of the Force they can. I want to make it sandbox, and really work with the players to make the stories personal.

I'm considering using Age of Rebellion as my base rules engine.
JackOKnives
 member, 74 posts
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 17:41
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I haven’t had a lot of practical experience with FFG’s Star Wars stuff yet, but I’m interested.

Just to clarify, when you say you’re considering using Age of Rebellion as the base rules engine, does that mean you’d want players to take a AoR Profession out the gate with an eye towards grabbing a F&D one as they discover more lore about the Force?
Coridan
 member, 201 posts
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 17:52
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Not exactly. I want to use Age of Rebellion for it's duty system, equipment, and general setting. I would be using Force and Destiny for Morality, the general Force powers, and all the Jedi and Force doo dads, like customizable Lightsabers, Holocrons and so on.

I'm playing with the idea of having PCs only start with the Force Sensitive Emergent and/or Force Sensitive Exile universal specializations, or not allowing any specialization from F&D that has the name of a Lightsaber form, to really go for that untrained feel. I may also try to salvage material from my last two games.
JediMaster007
 member, 153 posts
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 17:56
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This would likely interest me, but I have nfc what you two are talking about.  :/

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HEarlPendelfield
 member, 21 posts
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 18:18
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The concept really interests me but unfortunately I have no experience with Age of Rebellion or Force and Destiny, though I have played a small amount of Edge of the Empire. So if you need players with experience with the rules I would have to pass.
Coridan
 member, 202 posts
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 19:01
[Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
If you've played Edge of the Empire you've played the two other games. The major difference is that Age of Rebellion has new ships, gear, careers and specializations, and it's own version of the Obligation mechanic called Duty. Instead of paying off Obligation, you earn Duty. in EOTE, having a ton of Obligation can get you stuff but can also reduce strain and wound thresholds because you're uptight about owing credits to Jabba. In AOR, earning Duty gets you better access to Rebel intel, resources, ships and equipment as you gain rank and are rewarded by the Rebel Alliance for helping them succeed in their battle to free the galaxy from the oppressive grip of the Empire. Solo's problem is that he earned a boat load of duty but let his Obligation sit and never resolved his debt with Jabba.

Morality is the Obligation analog for Force and Destiny. Non-Force sensitive people are responsible to their patrons and organizations, those who hear the Force are responsible to it. Everyone starts with a Morality of 50. Those who fall to a Morality of 29 or less become Dark Side characters and gain extra an extra wound (as their pain and inner turmoil enables them able to shrug off injury). Those who climb to a Morality of 71 or higher are considered "Light side" (although I hate the term) as the Force user has the Force as their ally and is in tune with its life-affirming will, they get an extra strain representing their peace and inner calm. More importantly, Dark Side characters add a Dark Side destiny point to the destiny pool, and Light Side characters add a Light Side destiny point to the pool. While Dark Side characters are playable, Dark Sider PCs actively harm the PC group because they grant the GM additional Dark Side destiny points to use against the PCs. Conversely, Light Side PCs help the group, granting the group extra light side destiny points that PCs can use - the Force is with them! This matches the source material, where Dark Siders always meet terrible ends with victory seemingly in their grasp.

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Coridan
 member, 203 posts
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 19:03
Re: [Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
HEarlPendelfield:
The concept really interests me but unfortunately I have no experience with Age of Rebellion or Force and Destiny, though I have played a small amount of Edge of the Empire. So if you need players with experience with the rules I would have to pass.


If you've played basic Edge of the Empire you're fine.
Coridan
 member, 204 posts
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 19:04
Re: [Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
JediMaster007:
This would likely interest me, but I have nfc what you two are talking about.  :/


We're talking gamey stuff about FFG Star Wars. I'd be willing to teach you how to play, it's easier than Star Wars D20.
Nintaku
 member, 495 posts
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 19:09
Re: [Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
I was actually considering putting a request in GMs Wanted for a small-scale FFG Star Wars game, and here you are. It must be the Force guiding us. You have my interest for sure. :D

There are a few things about the FFG system that bug me, but I think they're a) all in my head and b) only problems because I was the GM and didn't really get to be a player. I'd be happy to join in on this. My only concern is: If someone goes with an Age of Rebellion Career instead of FaD, will they still be considered Force Sensitive if they can't afford one of the Force universal specializations?
Nurgles_Rot
 member, 193 posts
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 19:12
Re: [Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
I am definitely interested and would love to play. I love the FFG star wars setting.
Coridan
 member, 205 posts
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 19:42
Re: [Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
Nintaku:
I was actually considering putting a request in GMs Wanted for a small-scale FFG Star Wars game, and here you are. It must be the Force guiding us. You have my interest for sure. :D

There are a few things about the FFG system that bug me, but I think they're a) all in my head and b) only problems because I was the GM and didn't really get to be a player. I'd be happy to join in on this. My only concern is: If someone goes with an Age of Rebellion Career instead of FaD, will they still be considered Force Sensitive if they can't afford one of the Force universal specializations?


In order to be Force Sensitive, you will need to have a Force Rating of 1. In order to get that outside of an F&D career, you'll need to spend 20 XP and get either Force Emergent or Force Sensitive Exile, both of which are universal careers. So, no, only if you take either of those Universal careers will you get that Force rating of 1. Only by taking an F&D career at character generation will you get the Force Rating of 1 and be considered Force Sensitive. Since Force Sensitive Exile and Force Emergent are Universal Specializations (like Recruit), they can be taken at any time after game play start.

Generally, non-Force sensitive specializations will have the advantage of having stronger spec trees in various non-Force things. Force and Destiny had it's trees designed in such a way so that players who only owned that book could do, for example, a Luke Skywalker X-Wing pilot as the Starfighter Ace (a Force Sensitive pilot from F&D.) You can do the same thing in AOR as an Ace who takes Force Emergent. The way it works in F&D, you're not forced to buy AOR. Another bonus is that if you buy an F&D specialization, getting Force Emergent is still of benefit. Rey from The Force Awakens is a great example of a Seeker->Artisan (basically, a Force Sensitive tech scavenger) who is also a Force Emergent. She starts with a Force Rating of 1 and climbs to a two with blossoming Force powers that makes people like Kylo Ren freak out as the game progresses.

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Nintaku
 member, 496 posts
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 19:47
Re: [Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
So the expectation for this game is that we'll take either an FaD career or Emergent or Exile. I can go with that.
Coridan
 member, 206 posts
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 19:50
Re: [Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
I'm open to EOTE or AOR careers - folks just need to work out a way to get that 1 Force Rating.

I'm considering not allowing any F&D career that has a Lightsaber form in the title.
Nintaku
 member, 497 posts
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 20:05
Re: [Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
Oh yeah, what's your expectation on lightsabers for the starting characters. I'm assuming we'll have to earn those rather than starting with them? Also assuming there will be Inquisition-related consequences once they become a thing.

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Coridan
 member, 207 posts
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 21:49
Re: [Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
Nope. I want searching for a Lightsaber to be a thing. The typical PC for this thing would be at best would be like either Luke in Episode IV, or Chirrut Imwe. Not to say that Lightsabers wouldn't be earned - think Star Wars - Rebels.

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Nintaku
 member, 498 posts
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 22:15
Re: [Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
Sadly I don't have that frame of reference. Haven't seen it yet. Well, you have fiveish players interested so far. When were you planning to get this thing rollin'?
JediMaster007
 member, 154 posts
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 23:15
Re: [Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
In reply to Coridan (msg # 8):

Well, if you're up to showing me something new then I would at least want to take a look. If you say it is easier than d20, it can't be too hard. I am familiar with the d20 stuff before SAGA edition. I don't know a whole lot about Force Users and their powers when it comes to splitting between something light sideor dark side. But I dont suppose it matters since they are not the same systems at all, are they?
seraphmoon
 member, 17 posts
 I've Been Touched By
 His Noodly Appendage
Wed 28 Dec 2016
at 23:48
Re: [Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
I'd be interested. I've only ever run games of AoR or EotE, but I've never gotten to actually play.
mesneaky
 member, 196 posts
Thu 29 Dec 2016
at 00:35
Re: [Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
Well if you're only looking for 3 players, then I think you'll have more applications than you can handle.
Shaman
 member, 172 posts
Thu 29 Dec 2016
at 01:06
Re: [Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
I would be interested in lurking if you don't mind someone just being a witness to the game?
Coridan
 member, 209 posts
Tue 3 Jan 2017
at 16:03
Re: [Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
I'll be only taking 3 players, maybe 4, and it will be out of selected apps as detailed in the RTJs. More to come as I get things together.
ScooterinAB
 member, 213 posts
Wed 11 Jan 2017
at 11:05
Re: [Interest Check - Small Scale FFG Star Wars F&D Game]
If this is still something you're doing, I'd be interested. I played FFG Star Wars for about 2 years and am very familiar with the game. I think PBP could work well for Force users since the players can share what the characters are thinking and feeling, rather than just what they're doing.