so many has recommended it, I suspect I will have to buy it

but in the future, when I have more money to live on

I have to get a few other movies too, despicable me 1 & 2, how to tame your dragon, brave, tangled, princess and the frog, avengers, thor 1 & 2, the hulk, the new batman movies, harry potter all of them, LOTR, Hobbits and blade all 3

okay okay, I am a little movie addicted... I know it

if you ever want to see a great movie, I recommend "cloud atlas"

and yes, I am allowed to see movies that aren't considered "good movies" I like action and cartoons...

I enjoyed pretty much all those movies, especially the superhero ones.

I never got around to seeing How to Train Your Dragon, but I love the Disney movies and the other Animated ones.

Cloud Atlas was good, but it felt more like four weak stories linked than a grand tale.   Still very interesting, though.


I saw Avengers four times in the theatre,  which is probably why I haven't watched my copy of it.    :)

ah, I hate cinemas, someone always have their phone on, talks to each other or checks their phone for something and the light flashes

so I either stream, borrow or buy it, depending on how good reviews it has been given

I have been trying to find singin in the rain and sabrina (with audrey hepburn) for ages too, but they aren't easily found, or then they hide them from me

they are rather old after all

Yes, people on phones in the movies are a problem.  We've gotten into many arguments with stupid people about that.

I bring a flashlight to shine on people.   That's worked a few times, though I've been told that sooner or later it'll start a fight with someone.


Singing in the Rain is a wonderful movie.  One of my favorites, too.   I love Donald O'Connor.  He's hilarious in that.
I've never been much of a Audrey Hepburn fan, I'll admit.   I've never seen Sabrina, but I saw Breakfast at Tiffany's, and didn't like it.


I usually don't watch many old movies, but there are a few I love.  I watched White Christmas with Bing Crosby a few months ago.  That was good.
And "Arsenic and Old Lace" is one of my all time favorites.

I didn't like breakfast at tiffany's either, luckily I had seen sabrina before that, so I didn't not see the sabrina one

more movies to check out, yay

In reply to Nuric (msg # 515):

Picking up where we left off...

Actually is sounds like you're trying to simplify something that I tried to complicate.

It's not just bigots.

Not just socially inept people.

Everyone.

Absofreakinlutely everyone. Just bigger and smaller scales and trillions upon trillions of different methods, thoughts and topics.

Parking registration/tickets/meters. Monthly random inspections followed by booting and eventually towing. Seen it all done before.

In reply to CuteSue (msg # 520):

"Compassionate" societies don't ruthlessly persecute stupidity and thus show idiots just enough leniency to keep them alive long enough to reproduce more idiots.

I will keep up with this conversation dangit! *shakes fist at sky*

*smiles*    I'm not sure why you're trying to complicate it, my friend.

Yes, I understand that people, all people, have their own perspective on things, and their own view of reality, to an extent.
I was merely talking about people who choose to ignore what it obviously reality for personal reasons.

Some things are complicated, like normal human perception.  Some things are less so, like bigotry and religious persecution.
Complicating it only makes excuses for it.

It almost sounds like you're saying that bigots "just are that way".

Disclaimer: I'm being cheeky and fun as well as informative but in no way am I actually trying to be insulting. That being said...


Because that was the point in the comment. Everything is more complicated than people give credit to because we all have our own little bubble worlds that simplify data so that we can process it with our tiny little brains. :)


Exactly. Which is everyone. Everyone accepts a particular worldview that suits their own personal desires/beliefs in order to justify their own existence/actions (except maybe crazy people). It's as simple/complicated as that. :P


Oh, my naive little Nuric. Bigotry is not simple. It spans from a complicated weave of human evolution and culture. To call bigotry "simple" in its broadest sense, one must also call all human perception/opinion/emotion "simple" as well. Which I suppose is one way to go if you're an omnipotent supergenius lifeform evolved well beyond our species...and a jerkface. We humans are complex! I don't care what the Zorblaxian empire says!


Absolutely not! The experiments and exercises used by the Nazis in the holocaust got really complicated sometimes. Contrary to popular belief among teenagers and serial daters, "complicated" does not equate to "justified" at all.

The whole point was to troll/inform you that "bigotry" is a fundamental aspect of human nature. Different people just exercise it differently and on different scales of magnitude as well as with different topics and things. "Mean girls" who create social cliques that outcast and bully those who are not in the popular crowd is a form of bigotry. It's on a smaller scale than what we typically call bigotry, but it IS the same thing, just smaller and with different topics of discussion (instead of religion or race they're prejudice is over their communal taste in beauty and lifestyle). And thus: COMPLICATED.

:P

Sadly, the cheekiness is kind of undermining your attempts to be informative, I'm afraid.
My apologies, but it's just not working for me.


Yes, I know that the human brain is complicated, but you missed my point as well.
I wasn't saying that bigotry was some new phenomenon and that only the people I didn't like did it.
I understand that the human brain and personality is very complex, but that wasn't what I was talking about.

This whole point was about people who stubbornly cling to their prejudices, despite loads of information to the contrary, hating just because it makes them feel better.
I know that's been going on since the first right handed caveman met the first left handed caveman, but that is besides the point.

I'm not saying that bigotry isn't complicated.  If it wasn't, I'd have fixed it by now.
You're not telling me something I don't know.

Bigotry IS simple.  We've just tried to complicate it and dress it up in complex designs over the years to hide that fact.

the cavemen did kill another race of cavemen to exist, so it happened before left or right handedness

I mean we used to be two versions of walking humans

homo erectus, which was killed off

homo sapiens, that did the killing and is who we are

and then we have the nut cases that think dinosaur bones where dug into the earth to distract people from knowing about adam and eve

and I do say nutcases, because they've been proven time and again that adam and eve, could not have been the only way stuff happened.

I could say that adam and eve was made in this nice little garden lived for billions of years there as god can slow down time, while he waited for the dinos to die, and then he kicked them out

but that is taking logic and religion and mixing it

and I've never seen a religious person come up with that idea, because that would allow for the bible being looked at in a new way, as the garden being there to protect the humans and new species, while the old "test-species" died out

Yes, I've heard about the "other" humans dying out, probably due to our ancestors.
It's a very viable theory, certainly.

*smiles*  Yes, very much NOT like the "theory" of Eden.
There is at least one "Creationist Museum" here in America, where you see "proof" of man and dinosaurs living side by side (usually humans riding them, like in the Flintstones).

It's a scary thing.

*Lifts an eyebrow so high it disappears into her hair*

yeah... right...

what, really?

*Both eye-brows are high in the air of surprise*

a-a-and they won't allow their kids or others to know about both or all 15, so they can make an informed opinion?

???

No, no....  *smiles*

The Fundamentalist Christian families bring their kids to the Creationist Museum to "learn the truth about the world", though nearly everything in it has been debunked by scientists.

*jaw drops to floor*

I....

I...

I feel so sorry for them kids

Yes, it's very sad.   They are brainwashed, like in a cult, to believe whatever the parents do, and are actively discouraged from learning anything else or associating with others with different views.

I know all parents are protective and try to teach their values, but those people are just scary.

there was this one episode in banshee, the tv-series banshee

where a kid being amish and all, was beaten because he wanted to read books

because the books he wanted to read, wasn't the bible...

Yes, there's a lot of censorship among religious folks.    I heard a number of people insisting that Harry Potter was "demonic witchcraft".    It's sad how people are so scared of new ideas.

demonic witchcraft......?????

holy cow, did you know, before the salem witch-trials, I mean before whatever years that happened

the church burned the person that believed there was witches on the stake, because believing there is witch-craft was considered heresy? or well, not heresy, but foolish.

http://www.catholic-legate.com...tesOnWitchcraft.aspx



so really, the religion has been changed to fit into human views and propaganda to make religion pure or ability to think for oneself

I'm glad that the medieval church was more pragmatic, though more recent churches were more condemning.   Like during the Spanish Inquisition.   And even though there is no sanctioned persecution bu the government, many evangelical churches are quickto talk about witches and demons as if there were a real thing.

I think it was all because of that one pope, the one that leeched a lot of money for his own ends

the one you can kill in the assassin's creed games or well try to kill, I don't remember if one killed him or not

anyway, he corrupted the church and now finally we have a pope that is going back to what religion was really all about, being human

and nice to each other

Yes, many of the "Christian" Conservatives in this country are turning on Pope Francis, at least in subtle ways, dismissing a lot of what he says.

I even heard some rich people saying that they were rewarded by God for being so wealthy.    It's amazing what people will justify.

I completely forgot about you Nuric. Sorry I haven't posted in a while. I have this life. It is busy. Anyway...

I think people who oversimplify complex topics are simple-minded and you think people who over-complicate simple topics have some sort of secret agenda trying to justify whatever the topic is. Let's agree to disagree on that.

I enjoyed the cheekiness, that was the whole point. To be funny on a topic you can't seem to laugh about. Dead baby/racist/sexist/religious jokes anyone? :P

And bringing in religion justifications for hypocritical actions through the ages is just evidence to the MAGNITUDE for stupidity that we humans possess.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:16, Thu 27 Mar 2014.