Lawful Evil? ;)

If Peacock is Lawful Evil, what does that make Dusk Rat? ;)

True Neutral?  Bound by the laws of the animal kingdom, rather than the human one :)

That's an interesting take! Although I'd want you to provide evidence for the "Evil" part - I'm rather interested as which actions of his you've witnessed that makes you think so. :)

He took a shiny from the players, that automatically makes him evil and ensures the party will hunt him down and kill him at all costs. Despite the fact we voluntarily gave up the shiny Deathstaff in the end. Plus he took Dusk Rat away. Really just a total monster.

Yeah! No-one takes our shinies!!! *goes berserk*

<.<

>.>

O.O

Anyway, back to the original question:
Peacock has been definitely acting consistently - he's a consistent know-it-all smart-(pain-in-the-)ass. :D
To be serious, though, I think he's a more dangerous opponent than Valador; his world view resembles Valador's, as well, it seems to me: he wants to lead the Order to the greater glory, and for this "greater good" it seems he's ready to perform some "lesser evils" (which he might not see as being evil, in the first place; or perhaps he thinks that you can't avoid getting your hands dirty, when you aim for bigger goals). By the way, I can't say Hornet completely disagrees with all these points.*

Fortunately, his goals coincide far more with ours than Valador's; plus I do expect that Peacock has boundaries set, which he won't overstep. (For instance, unless the Order was in grave danger (and maybe even then), I think Peacock would never do to Brotherhood Magicians what Valador presumably did to Kai folks.)

And handing him the Deathstaff was indeed voluntary - his argumentation was (almost) perfect; plus, it seems he succeeded in Bhanar, so along the lines that "victors are not judged" he can brag about taking the Deathstaff all the more.

*note: I'm not saying that's how things are, just how Hornet sees them. ;)

He would certainly argue that success in defeating evil is a good justification for taking risky courses of action, I'll grant you that. :)

As for similarities with Valador, I'll leave it all to you to judge; I have, of course, my own opinions, but it'd be hard for me to get feedback from you if I prejudice you by sharing them.

On the other hand, Dusk Rat has had by far the most interaction with Shining Peacock in character, so she might want to chime in and offer her own view - I'd be curious to see how much different her opinion is from that of the rest of you.

By the way, has none of your characters any reaction to showcase to the latest IC exchange between Peacock and Sun Snake? I'll need confirmation before I move things forward... and also, it would be a good time for any of you to take back a bit of spotlight from Sun Snake's latest scene-stealing performance! ^_^

Maybe he's not "deliberately evil" as such.  "For the greater good" and all that.
But the problem Swift has with him is that he's so convinced that his way is the right way that he's clearly prepared to just roll right over anyone who gets in his way.
She thinks his way will make the Order a heck of a lot more enemies than it's already got.  So in a way he probably is even more dangerous to us than Valador (in the long term at least).

Lawful Evil:
A lawful evil character methodically takes what he wants within the limits of his code of conduct without regard for whom it hurts.  He cares about tradition, loyalty, and order but not about freedom, dignity, or life.  He plays by the rules but without mercy or compassion.

(One possible definition anyway) :)

By the way, are the rest of us still connected to the Seeing Stone, after Sun Snake's psychic "mic drop"?
This message was last edited by the player at 10:21, Tue 06 June 2017.

Shining Peacock is making the call, and even if now, Sun Fox is capable of keeping a mind link going once Sun Snake has established it.

At least, that's my understanding.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:31, Tue 06 June 2017.

As Sun Snake said, the call is still ongoing and being mantained by Peacock himself. He's not going to drop it, and in fact he's currently surprised that Sun Snake reacted so stongly to being chided like that. Although perhaps not completely unhappy with the result. ;)

Swift Fox, I do know what Lawful Evil means - I was just arguing that, as far as I remember at any rate, you shouldn't have any proof that Peacock "cares [...] not about freedom, dignity, or life. He plays by the rules but without mercy or compassion." So that, while arguing for Lawful makes sense, his precise position on the Good-Neutral-Evil axis should be a bit more uncertain.

Which is why I asked for feedback in the first place - because I'm curious about what makes you see him as evil. I enjoy being pointed out aspects of a character I didn't notice, it makes me more aware of my faults as a writers and makes the game itself more interesting for me to run.

Well, maybe just the impression I get from him.

OOC: EEEEEEEEEVIL!!!
IC: Hmm, something seems a bit fishy about that guy...
This message was last edited by the player at 11:00, Tue 06 June 2017.

That makes things clearer, so thank you for elaborating on the matter, Swift Fox! ^_^

It's kind of interesting just to sit back and see what everyone else thinks...since my character's had a lot more interaction with Peacock than anyone else (him being her master, and all), I have more info on him as a player than the rest of you as well. But consider that Dusk Rat seems fine - she's present in the call and everything, so whatever mission Peacock set off to do evidently went fine, unless for some reason you think he hasn't actually completed it yet ;). And Dusk Rat herself is evidently perfectly happy to trust Shining Peacock - if you think he's dodgy, consider what that may imply about your opinions of Dusk Rat...I mean, if Peacock's a bad guy, does that mean Dusk Rat's fallen for his tricks (whatever they may be) and manipulated into following him, or perhaps she's fully aware and is going along with it? Or neither of those things is true and Peacock does actually have everyone's best interests at heart, in which case Dusk Rat appears to be one of the few who really understands him and his motives? Or something?

Dusk Rat went full badass and took out a Nadziran or something, I say she's evil through and through! :p

ALright, there is a private line in the latest OOC post. Can everybody other than Sun Snake confirm to me they can see it? I'm never sure what's the proper formatting for a private line adressed to more than one person, so there's a chance it might not be showing up properly, and if that's so, I need you to let me know, so I can fix the problem. :)

I can't see anything so it's at least working in that regard!

That's good to know, although unsurprising. :)

Basically, when adressing a private line to multiple people, the names need to be separated properly - I just can never remember if the correct separator is a comma (,) or a semicolon (;), and if I put the wrong one, either only the first person in the adress line, or only the last one will be able to see the private line, and everybody else won't. That's what I'm worried about.

I can see the post properly - i.e. the private line is visible for Hornet.

I got it too.

Yup, I can see it - it says it's private for me, Sabre, Swifty, and Hornet :).

That matches my intent, alright. I'm happy about it. Feel free to react to the post in character however you prefer then! ^_^

Heh, now I'll be asking the similar question :)

Shadow, you do see private lines we send to other players, right? (I.e. you can see what I posted to Sun Snake, can't you?)

Are you okay to keep it in the same thread (in private lines)? It won't be a long exchange, I think, so it seems we need not to start a separate thread.

I see and know everything; I am all seeing and all knowing! I am as a god in this game, able to modify reality at a whim, power unlimited in my grasp and infinite awareness of everything... as long as I have the time to look through the 27 thousand posts and PM to find the right info, that is. ;P

But anyway, yes, there's no hiding anything from me within the game - as GM, I need to make sure nobody's violating the site's rules, and I couldn't really do that if I hadn't access to everything. I can edit your posts, or post as any of you if I want to; it'd be pretty hard for me not to see private lines.

And you are allowed to use the main thread for your private conversation, because I agree with you, Hornet - it's unlikely to be long enough to justify opening up a side-thread just for it. :)

OK, I thought so, but just wanted to check. Plus I was a bit more unsure how that works when you post as some NPC (not as Shadow/GM).
But seeing you made a post under Shining Peacock's identity, I almost do not dare to doubt that there would be something hidden from the bestest[sic] of Kai :D

In reply to Water Hornet (msg # 954):

Indeed. :)