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OOC: twelfth night.

Posted by ShadowFor group 0
Sun Snake
player, 5513 posts
Kai Lord
Grand Guardian
Sat 26 Dec 2020
at 06:45
  • msg #737

Re: OOC: twelfth night


Forgot to say Merry Christmas here - so Merry Christmas!
Shadow
GM, 6473 posts
Plotting turtle
GM
Sat 26 Dec 2020
at 08:53
  • msg #738

Re: OOC: twelfth night


Thanks, and same here from me to everyone!

I don't imagine anybody is paying any big attention to this game anymore, and in fact I'll probably close it definitively in January unless something happens to make me believe there's reason not to, but you all who played in it were wonderful and deserve to have the happiest holidays you can get! ^_^
Dusk Rat
player, 2209 posts
aka Ameena
Sat 26 Dec 2020
at 10:39
  • msg #739

Re: OOC: twelfth night

It does seem to have gone very quiet here, doesn't it. Well, it's lasted a long ol' time at least, and been pretty fun, and I think we're actually pretty much at the end now, right? Just need the Battle of the Walls-of-Text to come to a conclusion and give ourselves some personal epilogues or whatever and that's probably about it.

Happy merry midwinter celebratory-and-eating-food day(s) anyway :D.
Swift Fox
player, 4295 posts
Primate, Darklord slayer
Ghost of Anskaven, Age 17
Sat 26 Dec 2020
at 14:25
  • msg #740

Re: OOC: twelfth night

Merry chocolate-eating day (well, bit late, but yeah we can eat chocolate any day we like.  Stuff the rules!) :)

Still checking in for new posts.
But yeah, seems to be mostly up to the wall-of-texters for now.  (Unless someone needs the services of an ally with a collection of sharp things to deal with the situation in a more direct way!)  ;)
Sun Snake
player, 5514 posts
Kai Lord
Grand Guardian
Thu 31 Dec 2020
at 18:07
  • msg #741

Re: OOC: twelfth night


Yay to people still being around - Happy New Year to you all too! :)
Shadow
GM, 6474 posts
Plotting turtle
GM
Thu 31 Dec 2020
at 18:39
  • msg #742

Re: OOC: twelfth night


It's not yet the new year here where I live, but I can still agree with the sentiment and wish everybody to have a much better and happier year in this upcoming one than they had in the one that's about to end! ^_^
Dusk Rat
player, 2210 posts
aka Ameena
Fri 1 Jan 2021
at 11:12
  • msg #743

Re: OOC: twelfth night

Yeah, unfortunately it does seem to mainly be down to humans en masse showing intelligence and thoughtfulness/consideration and stuff, something our species as a whole tends to be fairly rubbish at :P. But, well, hopefully things will get better eventually :P.
Shadow
GM, 6475 posts
Plotting turtle
GM
Fri 1 Jan 2021
at 11:16
  • msg #744

Re: OOC: twelfth night

In reply to Dusk Rat (msg # 743):

I like to think that growing the species' overall intelligence is currently a world-wide work in progress; so, hopefully we just keep working at it and we'll get there eventually? ;D
Swift Fox
player, 4296 posts
Primate, Darklord slayer
Ghost of Anskaven, Age 17
Fri 1 Jan 2021
at 13:35
  • msg #745

Re: OOC: twelfth night

Shadow:
In reply to Dusk Rat (msg # 743):

I like to think that growing the species' overall intelligence is currently a world-wide work in progress; so, hopefully we just keep working at it and we'll get there eventually? ;D

If we don't all kill ourselves due to overwhelming lack of intelligence first!  ;)

Actually, I think my biggest regret would be not being able to see what evolves to become the dominant species on the planet after we're gone...

(My money is on the cats though.  They already think they're living gods (I blame the ancient Egyptians for putting that idea into their heads!))
Shadow
GM, 6476 posts
Plotting turtle
GM
Fri 1 Jan 2021
at 13:49
  • msg #746

Re: OOC: twelfth night


I like cats more, but if I was looking at this objectively, I think it'd probably be canids who took over.

Whenever they've been introduced in a new wild area that didn't have them, wolves became the apex predators with barely any effort, and almost every ecosystem with coyotes in it as the top scavengers is more stables than those without; dogs have probably more racial variety within the boundaries of a single species than any other animal on Earth, and they understand our civilized world (to the degree of being able to survive in it even without humans in it) better than most other animals. And they're a species that has a incredibly deep level of inborn cooperation and group instinct, which means they're more likely to develop a complex society - and that's assuming intelligence developed again, which it might not. So, unless intelligence is an evolutionary inevitability and opposable thumbs are a prerequisite for it (in which case, some other ape will probably get back there first), I think dogs and wolves are gonna outcompete everything else.

Just my opinion, that's all. :)

Although it does brings me to mind something I read once about how we, humans, are basically the equivalent of the fairy folks of lore when looked from the point of view of wild animals... here, I found the link:

https://www.reddit.com/r/tumbl...s_are_the_urban_fae/

It's quite an interesting take on humanity, and with us bringing about climate change, it also matches the "their words is fated to be destroyed and fall into neverending winter" aspect of the fae narrative. I found it quite an amusing idea to mull over.
Dusk Rat
player, 2211 posts
aka Ameena
Sat 2 Jan 2021
at 10:46
  • msg #747

Re: OOC: twelfth night

Dogs do pretty well, yeah, but dogs specifically (as opposed to wolves) have been selectively bred/domesticated over something like 30,000 years to fit in with humans and effectively be tailor-made to assist humans with certain tasks. While intelligence varies between specific dog breeds, as a whole there are species that are generally more intelligent than them - corvids, for example, and psittacines, as well as things like dolphins and elephants. And the various types of ape. Dogs don't tend to try and use tools, for example, while species such as chimps and crows have been repeatedly seen making their own in order to acquire food and stuff. I'm also not sure if it's ever been definitively confirmed that dogs are sentient, whereas with some of the other species I mentioned that is undoubtedly the case.

Saw a bit of something on TV the other day, it was about penguins and there was one species that's pretty critically endangered because of habitat loss or whatever it was, and I realised that every time this happens, every time there's a documentary that says "This species is on the verge of extinction" or words to that effect, it's always humans who are responsible. Whether directly (through things like poaching or habitat destruction) or indirectly (for example, plastic waste finding its way into the oceans), it's always us responsible. We'll probably end up being the cause of our own destruction as well, and then some other species will be able expand and advance without us being there to murder them for doing so. And maybe they'll end up following much the same course, but who knows...we won't be there to see it ;).
Shadow
GM, 6477 posts
Plotting turtle
GM
Sat 2 Jan 2021
at 11:27
  • msg #748

Re: OOC: twelfth night

In reply to Dusk Rat (msg # 747):

I'd like to hope that we as a species can overcome the elements within the group that are destroying everything for their own short-sighted benefit, but I can agree that, if we don't, we'll indeed destroy ourselves, much like we're destroying most of the natural world.

It's like the matter of Pandas - they are an endangered species on the verge of extinction because they can only eat one specific plant, which you would think is a result of bad evolution, but when one thinks it over for a moment, they survived thousands of years with that specific adaptation, and it's the humans stealing their food away that is killing them.
This message was last edited by the GM at 11:27, Sat 02 Jan 2021.
Dusk Rat
player, 2212 posts
aka Ameena
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 10:45
  • msg #749

Re: OOC: twelfth night

Yeah, and building roads and such through their habitat so they can't roam around as freely as they used to, now being cut off from each other. Same thing happens in many other environments where roads and such-like are built through the middle of a forest or whatever.

I did see a documentary thing once, I think it was online somewhere, that was called something like "What would happen if humans disappeared overnight?", and went through what would happen worldwide if such a thing were to happen - how quickly the various environments would grow over/erode away all our stuff, jungles growing back, swamps reclaiming the land, and so on. The total time taken for every last trace of our influence to be eradicated was a relatively miniscule half-a-million years or something. That's pretty much nothing even on a planetary scale, never mind a galactic/universal one :D. Humans aren't special, we just "got there first" in times of our brains developing to the point that we could control our environment rather than the other way around. If it wasn't us, some other species would've done it eventually (and still might, especially if we get ourselves out of the way first).
Shadow
GM, 6478 posts
Plotting turtle
GM
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 10:53
  • msg #750

Re: OOC: twelfth night


Oh, for sure - it's always funny that every other apocalyptic scenario is called "end of the world", when the world will most certainly keep going on once all humans, or even just most of civilization's trappings, have been removed from it. "End of humanity" or "end of human civilization" would be more accurate descriptions, but that just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Then again, that's a very humble thought to have, that we've overall not that important on a worldwide scale, and the kind of people who are working overnight to bring an ecological catastrophe on our collective heads aren't the kind of people who are likely to entertain any thought of humbleness or the very concept of not being the most important thing in the whole world.
This message was lightly edited by the GM at 16:36, Sun 03 Jan 2021.
Swift Fox
player, 4297 posts
Primate, Darklord slayer
Ghost of Anskaven, Age 17
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 16:33
  • msg #751

Re: OOC: twelfth night

Dusk Rat:
I did see a documentary thing once, I think it was online somewhere, that was called something like "What would happen if humans disappeared overnight?", and went through what would happen worldwide if such a thing were to happen - how quickly the various environments would grow over/erode away all our stuff, jungles growing back, swamps reclaiming the land, and so on.

This?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_After_People

I've seen that.  Was fascinating in a morbid sort of way.  Gave me all sorts of ideas for post-apocalyptic scenarios :)
Dusk Rat
player, 2213 posts
aka Ameena
Mon 4 Jan 2021
at 12:17
  • msg #752

Re: OOC: twelfth night

The thing I remember seeing was a single video only a few minutes long so I don't think it was that same series, but it seems like they have the same premise. And yeah, huamns are pretty arrogant as a species, moving in and butting out all the other species, referring to themselves as though they are a separate thing (ie calling other animals "animals" but not themselves), when they're really not. Acting like they own the planet and all. Bleh. Well, let's see how that turns out...but we're like a disease and now we're on the verge of spreading to another planet :O.
Swift Fox
player, 4298 posts
Primate, Darklord slayer
Ghost of Anskaven, Age 17
Mon 4 Jan 2021
at 13:20
  • msg #753

Re: OOC: twelfth night

Dusk Rat:
...and now we're on the verge of spreading to another planet :O.

I doubt that'll happen anytime soon.  Not as long as it costs too much!  Folks in charge need that money for second/third homes in tax havens!  ;)

It all depends on whether we manage to achieve usable intergalactic space travel before we render the Earth uninhabitable, or the sun goes nova.  Whichever happens first (odds are currently on the first one!)

For the sake of the rest of the universe, I hope not.
Dusk Rat
player, 2214 posts
aka Ameena
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 11:03
  • msg #754

Re: OOC: twelfth night

Well, Elon Musk anticipates getting the first humans to Mars by something like 2025 so maybe it's closer than you think ;).
Swift Fox
player, 4299 posts
Primate, Darklord slayer
Ghost of Anskaven, Age 17
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 13:46
  • msg #755

Re: OOC: twelfth night

Oh...

Martian: "Those folks who moved in next door are really lowering the tone of the neighbourhood!"
>:(
Dusk Rat
player, 2215 posts
aka Ameena
Wed 6 Jan 2021
at 10:41
  • msg #756

Re: OOC: twelfth night

Well, at least Mars (as far as we can tell, so far) doesn't have any existing life forms we can mess up ;).
Shadow
GM, 6479 posts
Plotting turtle
GM
Wed 6 Jan 2021
at 10:53
  • msg #757

Re: OOC: twelfth night


I mean, even if it was possible to get to Mars within five years (which I don't think it will be), I'd rather all the money necessary to accomplish that was spent fighting climate change instead so we could keep this world the way it is... but that might just be a personal preference. :)
Swift Fox
player, 4300 posts
Primate, Darklord slayer
Ghost of Anskaven, Age 17
Wed 6 Jan 2021
at 12:57
  • msg #758

Re: OOC: twelfth night

That would indeed be the smart thing to do.  Which makes it extremely unlikely that will happen.

Humans are an evolutionary dead-end.  Unfortunately, we managed to evolve far enough that we're going to cause a truly massive amount of damage on our way out...
Dusk Rat
player, 2216 posts
aka Ameena
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 18:01
  • msg #759

Re: OOC: twelfth night

Well, the going-to-Mars thing is Elon Musk's idea, not some kind of governmental organisation. If he's decided that's what he wants to do, then that's fair enough :D.
Sun Snake
player, 5515 posts
Kai Lord
Grand Guardian
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 18:04
  • msg #760

Re: OOC: twelfth night


Someone might have something to say about that :p

http://images3.wikia.nocookie....rvin_the_Martian.jpg
Swift Fox
player, 4301 posts
Primate, Darklord slayer
Ghost of Anskaven, Age 17
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 22:02
  • msg #761

Re: OOC: twelfth night

Sun Snake:
Someone might have something to say about that :p

http://images3.wikia.nocookie....rvin_the_Martian.jpg

"Brace yourself for immediate disintegration!" :D
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