I'm in as well, but I agree with Snowy lvl 6 seems high. even for 'elite' goblins. The Bestiary has a tribal chief at that lvl. with 'sergeants at 3rd lvl.

Well yeah. That makes sense. Can't decide if I should make them 3rd or 4th.

As for the oponents... is a Halfling or a Gnomish society a better goblin bane? They'll be 4th level since they'll be riding dog mounts.

I think halflings make better goblin bane personally, and level 3-4 can work well enough for the elite squad.

How about... Level 3, if youre going to be a caster, and Level 4 if youre not going to have any levels as a caster.


Gnomes have a hatred against Goblins, so i think they'll be a better foil, and more dangerous because of that hatred.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:01, Thu 22 Dec 2011.

Was there something about goblins liking gnome steaks?

Is part of tor concept, making the goblins to be simply misunderstood heroes, with the gnomes/halflings the real evil villains or are you suggesting a traditional view of goblins, just with the players being the villains?

Not specifically asking for it, but if one reason you indicated 6th level at first was to provide for variety and multiclass options, you could allow one or two levels of gestalt level advancement.  (but cap it so all levels aren't gestalt)

More in the postmodernist notion that we're all the hero of our own narrative.  Is a shark a villain for taking a bite of baby seal? They'll be goblin in all that implies.

OK. I've created the game, but before I open it up for RTJ just wanted to get a little input on my proposed party composition...

1 - Sargent - 4th Level (non casting)
2 - First Tank - 4th Level (non casting)
3 - Second Tank - 4th Level (non casting)
4 - Caster - 3rd Level
5 - Healer - 3rd Level
6 - Infiltrator - 3rd Level
7 - Wild Card Option

Anyone see any problem with this?

Not sure it is a problem or not, however you don't specify if the designated casters need to be full caster's or not.  The implication being with the limitations on casters, they probably should be full casters, but that setup will probably discourage the lighter caster classes.  As long as that is what you intend/want.  Also, it would probably discourage multi-class builds.  You did leave a wildcard slot though for 'anything' which a lighter caster or multiclass build so that is good in case someone has such a idea.

And what exactly do you mean by the Infiltrator.  At first I was assuming rogue... but it occurred to me that it might have meant a bard or inquisitor.  Do you mean to limit it to 3 levels if a rogue?

Another thought that occurs to me, I take it the choice to have the casters limited to 3rd level is to reduce the 'impact' magic in the campaign.  You might consider letting them multiclass for that last level though.  (either one of the non-caster heroic classes, or potentially a non-adept npc class)

At least those are some thoughts.

Gave this some thought... how about this.  I dont see Goblins as being particularly advance as far as 'class' development goes.

Why dont you allow charactes a choice between a fourth level character using npc classes (aristocrat, warrior, adept, specialist) and a third level character using the normal character classes.

This way if they want to multi class, they're not pigeon holed into a role.  Also... see private note on other comments regarding the campaign.

Looks like it can work, I think I'll take the role as 2nd tank, first if no one else does.

I'd like to volunteer as sergeant.

I'm thinking Barbarian 1/Ranger 2, any specific archetypes are unclear at the moment, but I am likely either going ranged combat style, or one of the interesting new ones from APG and UC

I'm contemplating an Orcale... or Witch... or maybe Adept.  Waiting to see what other people want and what's left.

I already submitted an RTJ.  I suggested a barbarian that I've been trying to get into a game that lasts more than through the first encounter.  (He has a 7 wisdom and a flaw of 'gullible' which gives him -4 to sense motive.  There are golden retriever puppies who are better able to detect when someone is lying than my barbarian is.  Eventually the puppy will stop falling for the fake ball throw.)

But I'm willing to play anything.

In reply to Zag24 (msg #60):

You already submitted an RTJ? I didn't see a link to the game...can the GM(or anyone really) submit one? I did a search for pathfinder games and none of them seemed to be the goblins one.

Search on the games with the same GM as the current forum.

My primary idea was a cavalier, probably either of the Order of the Pack or Big-head.  That might have fell under sargent, but I'm not set on that.  He'd be a dog/worg rider himself, although I'm  sure he considers his mount far better than to vile gnomes beasts.  (if they have advantages though, it might be time for a new dog breeding program.)

I figured I'd wait on the RTJ until he decided on them though.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:28, Sat 24 Dec 2011.

Yup. I got a couple of RTJ's already. you resourceful little goblins you.

I hadn't posted one officially yet because I was still hammering out the actual game makeup.

As to the classing suggested... I was going for very general vague descriptions... and by infiltrator I mean your rouge,ninja,assassin,spy types.

I intend to keep the magic very low-key on the goblin side, and obviously no caster classes that require written words can be used.

Sorry for the delay in getting our Goblin game going. We had double funerals for my Grandma and Grampa over the new years weekend and I'm just getting back from the People's Republic of Texas.

Did you like it here in Texas?  Where did you go?

I am currently in the process of making a game based on the lives of Dwarves and maybe a few of their allies. It's a homebrew world I've made. The game will involve the stopping of a world ending catastrophe which I'm not gonna say to much about since I don't want to ruin it.

I'll be using the core rule book and the pathfinder SRD site though things from the site must be run by me first.

I just wanted to see if anyone is interested?
This message was last edited by the player at 00:15, Sat 02 June 2012.

Include Dreamscarred's Psionics Unleashed and I'm all for it! I've been looking for a psi based game lately.

In reply to Morrison (msg #66):

I'd be interested, though Dwarves aren't my favorite race...about when do you think the game would be? Is this just an idea in the back of your mind or is most of the world done already?

What allies do you speak of, out of curiosity for other possible races?

In reply to Great Cthulhu (msg #67):

Don't have the book sorry.



In reply to Dairius_Chi (msg #68):
The world is mostly done. I've been messing with it for a while just finally decided what I want to do with it.

There are two different human groups near them, Elven and Gnome. No half-orcs or halflings. One group of humans are horse Nomads the other a feudal kingdom.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed

Everything from the book for free online, d20pfsrd rocks.

Hmm, Horse Nomads...I like the sound of that, maybe a Horse Lord Ranger. Feudal Kingdom though, Samurai kick ass and can also have mounts.

In reply to Dairius_Chi (msg #70):

More like Medieval France no samurai or ninja.