You know what to do.
This message was last updated by the GM at 20:53, Tue 22 May 2012.

Hrm.



For whatever reason (Because that thread is closed, or set to public perhaps without a Group?) we don't have the option to quote the character sheet... or to post in that thread for questions and discussion, either.

Weird, huh?

How's it going?

It goes. Sitting here doing character creation math. Whee!

You?

Forgive me; I had assumed poorly that a public thread would allow people to post in it.  I will fix!

Buying kit.  I've pretty much figured out the easy part of character creation.

I basically just switched it to group 0, I think...please let me know if it works now.

I have not run a game in some time, and it is a tad less intuitive than I'd hoped now that I'm actually doing it again.  I don't see a way to edit thread permissions directly, for instance.

Directly?  Sadly you have to go into the GM menu and edit players/characters to do that.

Yeah, if you go into the GM menu, you can bring up a table of all characters, and edit permissions for everyone like that with little check-boxes.

I can see where I'd give access to the labeled groups (1-E), but not "public"...unless that is Z?

From what I recall, anyone can see stuff in Group 0, which is also our default group.

Ohhhhh, neat.  Thank you.

Oriana is correct.  Basically, Group 0 is where you want to put only the threads necessary for players looking to join.  I usually then stick player relevant stuff and OOC in group 1, then game threads in 2+.

Most of the games I've played in have their set-up notices, RTJ, creation information, etc in Group 0, and then the actual game threads and OOC and what-not tagged as Group 1+, so everyone and their brother can't stumble by and read it.

Edit: Or Hector could be reading my mind. Out of my head, Hector! :)
This message was last edited by the player at 20:51, Tue 22 May 2012.

Never!

And for those interested, there's a pic in my bio now of Hector.  Specifically, the TOR character he's based on.  Picture shows him better than I could describe after all.

Handsome fellow, indeed. *sagenod*

So I see the RTJ post is edited to no more smugglers or pilots, so I'm assuming we're the smugglers and pilots.  <.<

Are either of you heavily int-based or cha-based, as far as skills go? I'm waffling between a few choices to fill in my last slots, and don't want to overlap too terribly much in one spot at the expense of another.

I received a surprising number of pilot RTJs.  Still looking for a good jedi.

That's shocking.  I mean, really shocking.  I assumed that everyone would be sending in their Jedi ideas. o.O

Why yes, I am a smuggler and a pilot...

Its amusing though that we're looking for Jedi still... then again, you did specify GOOD Jedi.  There are often many... not so good Jedi.

I haven't started working on the character yet, but Hector is likely to be a Dex/Cha build, with enough Int to get the skill focuses needed - Pilot, Knowledge: Underworld, and probably mechanics.

Basically, he's a Smuggler with a Heart of Gold, and hands that might as well be.

Well I should say that I have some Jedi RTJs, but am waiting on one person who said he or she is at work and will be providing the actual RTJ later.  I shouldn't have done this to myself though, I hate telling people "No"...

I'm the same way, GM.  Usually though, the problem solves itself for me.  Whenever I give constructive criticism, as friendly as I can be... I tend to type a lot.  So, when people see like, two or three paragraphs of input - no matter how friendly or helpful - those who aren't truly interested tend to just disappear.

It helps weed out the 'noobs' I find.

Surprisingly, most people handle being turned down for games here fairly graciously.  Just say 'You had a great concept, but unfortunately I received <X so many> RTJs for only a few slots, and went with someone else.'

(Goodness knows I've failed to make the cut on plenty of games. The only time it bugs me is when I spend two days working on a character with a GM, to be turned away -after- that point.)



I can save you at least one skill point there, Hector.  Ori's going down the Tech Specialist tree, if you have something better to put that Mechanics point in. :)



...so, so leaving that one alone. <.<

I'll think about it, Oriana, but I do like to build my character according to the background and such as well.  Mechanic fits, since he does (did) a lot of the work on his starship.  We'll see though... he did also have a crew member along who was proficient at that for a while as well.

Also, ahem, *Heyooo*.

I made an actual soldier!  Twi'leks are awesome!

Yes, yes they are. I was dithering earlier on whether or not I wanted to go Twi'lek also, but I've decided on human. :)

You know what's fun to play?  Barabel.  Not enough games suit that kind of PC though...

Oof. There's the hard part of the character sheet done.  Now onto the fun part of buying stuff.

Twi'lek's are awesome indeed!

All right, time to get started on my character sheet...

Still working on the description.  At least I don't have to go hunting for a portrait!

There's a surprising amount of decent female Twi'lek portraits, actually.

I need to decide on a color to be first :p

I just picked dark green.  Easier that way.

All right, all finished.  Hector's so far a very good pilot, quick on his feet, and quite good with his pistol.  Eventually, I'll get another skill focus or two for Deception and Persuasion, but at level 6, not enough feats yet!

Seely's got skills in commanding, is a fairly well trained combatant, and isn't bad at Academic Pursuits; her teaching at a University definitely helped!

Commanding, huh?  Don't you go barkin' orders at me while I'm in the cockpit...

Stay by me and I'll keep you alive!

Ori, on the other hand is smart and socially slick.  Not only can she sweet-talk her way into a starship captain's bed: once he's asleep she can bypass all of his vessel's security systems so her associates can selectively redistribute some of the cargo; dismantle and creatively rearrange the engines to malfunction; reprogram the droids to have seen nothing out of the ordinary; and stroll out the next morning having convinced him that she was asleep the entire time...

Oh, and she's not spectacular with her blaster, but she doesn't suck with it either.

Edit: Okay, sheet's done. Far too tired to put a description in now, so will fix that tomorrow.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:58, Wed 23 May 2012.

Quick update:  just trying to find our Jedi now.  Looks like we'll end up with 6 players.

As well, I'll probably be doing some brief individual RP stuff with the lot of you before you all meet in the briefing room.  More on that to come.

We don't have a Jedi yet?  How strange!

I'm being a little harsh on my Jedi selection.

[Private to EAS-05; Hector Terrachova; Oriana Cy'Kast; Seely Komad; Serina Ryo: They're all a bit similar.  They're all excellent Jedi of course, but not much beyond that.  So I'm a little harsh on their backgrounds, probing each one for more information, trying to get the wheat out of the chaff etc etc.]

Nothing wrong with that.  So many of them, even in the Star Wars canon, are kind of...vanilla.  Give us a Jedi with flavor, and character! :)

[Private to EAS-05; Hector Terrachova; Seely Komad; Serina Ryo: Take your time, chief.  I'm pretty sure we're all patient, when the end result is quality. *sagenod*]

I understand.  I wanted to put a Jedi idea in but Seely struck me like a bus.

Higher Education is important, even in Star Wars, after all!

Hahaha, vanilla is totally a flavor.  How cruel of you to say otherwise!

Yeah!  What the droid said!

I actually liked Obi-Wan.  And...uh...who is that one.  Barriss Offee.  That was her.

Oh, I like several of them. Obi-wan and Quinlan Vos, actually, are my two favorite characters out of the entire universe.

But you can't argue that a lot of them kind of get relegated to "Default Background Jedi" status. :(

I mostly liked Obi-Wan because that defensive combat style is nothing but troll.

Blast. I hate trying to narrow down languages.  I seem to always find myself with one more that would make sense for the character than I have slots to take.

*shakes fist at the sky*

Part of the problem (in my opinion) is that, like soldiers, Jedi are stripped of a lot of individuality.  They keep some of their personality traits for sure, but in order to stand out, well...if you stand out too much, you're probably not a very good Jedi!

Similarly, you see a lot of troping, as in order to be let out into the world (even at this level) you've got to be pretty strong with the Force, quite capable.  Which goes back to being a good Jedi: by and large, bland.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:11, Wed 23 May 2012.

A friend and I had this discussion just the other day, actually, about how some of the best Jedi as far as accomplishments, were in fact not very good Jedi when it came to following the rules.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:14, Wed 23 May 2012.

Pretty much; the rules of doing good at any job are knowing when the rules can go screw themselves without going over the line.

I dunno about that.  Look at Obi-wan - aside from the slight defiance trained into him by Qui-Gon, he was pretty much a model Jedi.

In fact, as Oriana said... pretty much all the best Jedi - and the vast majority shown in the movies and other fiction - are not so much perfect Jedi.  But, they uphold the tenets accordingly, while keeping a personality.

However, I don't see why people need to be 'exceptional'.  As soon as you reach Padawan level and get assigned a Knight as a Master, you're ready to head out into the world with them.  Then once you're a Knight yourself, you're qualified to go solo - regardless of 'power level'.

Seely's not really exceptional (she drew lucky and survived the war, and did well enough to become an officer), either.  Jedi just sorta draw that 'Exceptional' quality to them, though.  An average Jedi is a little beyond our conception as far as a Main character or PC.

Even Obi-wan had his struggles with the Order's restrictions.  Heck, he even left the Order once while he was a padawan.

It's just that most of his struggles were with himself, and ultimately he tended to do "the right thing" as far as what the Order expected of him in the end.  So on the surface, he appears to be the model Jedi - and is definitely one of the closest, I think, but he still wasn't perfect.

Truly, there were probably more of them that fit that bill than we know about.  The canon is rife with secret Jedi romances and all that stuff that was "against the rules", but I think we miss hearing about most of it because those involved just kind of acknowledged that it was a no-no, and that they were going to do it anyway, and just kind of kept their heads down to not draw attention to themselves.

(Unlike Anakin, who seems to have screamed and railed and fought the restrictions from Day One, and we all know where that got him. <.< )

Anakin was a whiney bitch anyway.  But, I think we've illustrated the point adequately.  GM, I trust you in choosing a suitable Jedi.  And if they're stale, well, I'm gonna be showing you all up with my awesomeness anyway.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:08, Wed 23 May 2012.

I attribute most of the things I don't like about Anakin (pre-Vader) to the actors who had to play him.  Though, I haven't seen anything about him except what's in the prequels.

Hard to live up to James Earl Jones.  I have to agree though, Anakin was a bit underwhelming.

My character kind of warped around from Twi'lek to human, but never mind that :P
As Medic I'll be able to patch you back together if you loose any appendages!

The kid who played him in episode 1 wasn't bad - he was a young kid, which was Anakin at that time.  Hayden Kristinsen however... I believe he is just a terrible actor.  Just look at his "rage" moments in ep. 3.

I certainly like child Anakin more.  I'm also convinced some of it must be Lucas' fault.

I agree to that too.  He didn't write a good transition.  I could buy Anakin turning for fear of hos loved one and child... But to do so with only a few word from a politician and Sith, while ignoring the much wiser and proven words of a whole council of Jedi Masters... That was ridiculous.  Thank god for epic battle scenes.  Oh, and the romance was gag enducing at best.  LeiaxHan was much more convincing.

I think Anakin was written badly.  I felt that Padme had more in common romantically with Obi-Wan (and she had nothing (or very little)) than that little scrub.

But you can hardly blame an Obi-Wan fan (someone who read some of the older books where he's a Padawan and he nearly gets rejected) for being a little skeptical of the Plot Coupon'd Hero Boy.

I don't think anyone can reasonably argue against Obi-wan being the most awesome Jedi and character in the prequel trilogy, alongside only Qui-gon who was also awesome.

Qui-Gon had the virtue of having (one of) the best actors to be in the Prequels.

Yeah - an area Obi-wan took over for the second two, heh.

Yup!

It helped that he had the benefit of going (in the movies) from skeptical and snarky apprentice to only sane (and somewhat snarky) man with the same actor; it makes the character all the more credible in the series of movies that are pretty much reamed among the more critical for their acting.

I honestly and truly think that there's nothing wrong with the prequels that wouldn't be fixed by having every scene that involves Anakin and Amidala together condensed into five-minute montages.

<.<

But that's just me.

(Edit: I'll make an exception for Geonosis, but that's it.)
This message was last edited by the player at 19:02, Wed 23 May 2012.

I agree.  It would have made more time for cracking jokes, shooting bad guys, and *snaphiss*!

More time for Obi-wan to show up beryone else in the movie(s).

And his brilliant tactical decisions.

...well, you know.  Brilliant in the narrative sense.

Sometimes its best to be unpredictable!  I tend to act the same way.

Think of it like this - if I don't know what I'm doing there is no way my enemies will know what i'm going to do!

I dunno, that sounds a bit scary.  For your allies.

To be fair, Obi-Wan's in Episode 3 was probably able to dodge a heck of a lot more than most of what was thrown at him.

Or flat-out deflect it. Omnom, Master of Soresu.

Now, see, thats where acting alone comes in.  I act brazenly, which forces enemies to react and play their hand, which allows my allies - those that skipped the fun - to have some time to think and hen act accordingly.  That is, if theres any enemies left after I'm done...

What he can't dodge, by the Maker can he cut through, deflect, or reflect!

Well, it took most of the day, but I finally got around to fixing up a description block. Whoo.

Looks like I won't be hearing back from one of the Jedi apps til tomorrow.  I'll get to work on these prologue-y bits though, and have posts up for them...probably tomorrow!

Well *that* Jedi is out.

I don't mean to ridicule but I had to share this bit:

"She raised the boy until he was old enough to work the field with his father. His father gave him a pair of burgundy gloves to work the field. The only problem with that is that his physical make up wouldn't allow that."

No further mention of the burgundy gloves.  It is clarified that the inability to work the field is due to...back problems?  But, at first, I could not get my head around why his physical make up wouldn't allow wearing burgundy gloves!

What is this, I don't even...

Reminds me of a recent youtube video I watched: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ugFEy1pOCQ

I don't know what's going on half the time, but its hilarious.

But yeah... maybe he's allergic to class?  Thems some classy gloves after all.

That's weird, maybe he's got scissors for hands, or claws!

I'm sorry, you lost me at the notion of a Jedi raising children in the first place...

*slow headtilt*

...or was the boy the Jedi?  I'm not drunk enough for this, clearly.

By the by, I found a pretty good 'theme' song for Hector.  Until I find something better (Or something better to do than peruse youtubes):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQMBz6HvSoM

Well, I could see it.

Jolee Bindo would be a baller of a father if his life hadn't gone to pot for a while there.

I dunno. It's one of those things, I guess.

Can a Jedi be a parent? Sure. But I think that's where having a bit of an exceptional story to cover it comes in.  Jedi with families and children strike me (even in this era) as more of the exception than the rule, so my immediate thought when presented with a single sentence that seems to indicate a Jedi raising children is:

"This person doesn't know diddly about Jedi."

Kind of like my immediate reaction to such phrases as "He's a good Drow..." for D&D games. (Yes, I hear that far too often.)

Jedi as parents and, well, husbands and/or wives isn't something that happens until the New Jedi Order, under Luke Skywalker.  Before that, its both Taboo, and enough to get you kicked out of the order.

Course, a child can be born to a non-Jedi pair of parents, then become a Jedi.

Basically... any Jedi raising their own child is a Jedi no longer, unless under Luke (who is an awesome Grand Master).

So yeah... along the lines of 'good Drow'.

I could see a good Drow if they were orphaned/stolen/sold as slaves.

But it's a relative good rather than a DnD Good without a good back story.

In any case, a Jedi being a parent pretty much relies on the story being told well; you wouldn't get a Bastila type raising a kid very easy, but you could make a case for Revan or the Exile doing it.

It all relies on good writing.

Some people do not have that.  I honestly wasn't sure I had that when I submitted my concept, but...my concept was slightly easier than child having Jedi.

Actually, that's not 100% true about the parents and spouses not happening.

*holds up http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Krynda_Draay as an example*

It's just pretty rare.  There was a point, though, that it wasn't -illegal-, per se, however.  But it was on its way towards being Seriously Frowned Upon by the time period we're set in, so yeah...

I haven't been able to find a D&D game I enjoy in a long time but anyway, I do think well written good drow are theoretically feasible. If someone has a great deal of knowledge of Eilistraee and a really good story, it could be a fine character.

But i think it's being overdone far too much, everyone wants to play a true drow, but most games don't allow for evil characters, so they say "oh well my drow is good"? I dunno, just rambling :P

Also, I am a bad person GM.  If you get a random RTJ for a Jedi that's not a total idiot tonight, it's my fault. Totally my fault.  I had to share the comedy of errors that is finding a Jedi here with a friend.

*cowers*  Don't beat me!

Edit: And that's true about Drow.  A lot of games dismiss them out of hand, however, because they forget that Evil doesn't necessarily equal Stupid. (Which isn't to say that a lot of players might forget that, also.)

I see entirely too many games just up and say "NO DROW!" without giving characters a chance. It's sad.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:24, Thu 24 May 2012.

Lol.  I played in a game where you could be Drow in the Underdark.

My character...sorta had a spiritual LE going on; she'd totally murder and kill to be more powerful, but she was...well.  She was good for a drow who was faithful to the Spider Queen.  It's complicated.  She was a ninja (by class) and that was written as them being a sort of ascetic/spiritual assassin group of social inferiors within House Freth.

See, the thing is... one can easily be a FORCE USER and have a kid.  But a Jedi in a relationship, with a child, is something that doesn't exist (at least not for very long).  Don't forget, Jedi is an Order, or religion, not someone who can use the Force and a lightsaber.

Anyway.  Exceptions always exist, if course.  But the general rule is, unless NJO, you're not going to be a Jedi for very long after you have a kid.

The Exile and Revan don't really count, since they're Jedi in the Force User sense, not so much Jedi as in The Order... the Exile moreso.



In any case... here's to hoping we get a good Jedi!  I'm hoping for one of those hot Jedi women who doesn't take their role in the Order too seriously...

In reply to Oriana Cy'Kast (msg #83):

The boy was the Jedi.

Someone wants to be the fox in the henhouse, methinks.

Yeah, it's very rarely two Jedi in a relationship.  If they are, they've probably chosen specifically to turn their backs on the Order in that respect.

That's how I roll, baby!

Poor guy still thinks he'll get to make any decisions for himself.....

As long as I get no fewer than 3 separate sandwiches.

Sure thing. You want that knuckle sandwich for lunch, or dinner?

Just try to not get shot, Hector; we need someone to fly the ship.

Knuckles, huh?  Kinky.

Don't worry though.  I'm much more likely to get a lightsaber through the neck for being too awesome.

Huh.  The Estrogen is strong in this group.

Feeling a little outnumbered yet, Hector?

Outnumbered?  Three women and me on an epic adventure, full of bravado?

Yeah baby.

But...  You forgot about me...  How very sad that makes me.

But you're a droid.  I don't swing that way bro.  Um, tin?  What's the easy slang for droid?

I got all of this craziness out of the way back when I was a Sergeant, back during shore leave during the war.

So are you like Stumpy, best character of Starship Troopers?

Are we gonna see you in the classroom, think you're an ass, then later see you on the battlefield, and add bad- to that description?

Lots of those students at Coruscant U need to have a teacher they don't like every once in a while, or they get soft.

I've narrowed it down to two.  Oriana, should I wait for one from your friend?

Also good morning, all!

I brought some internet donuts.  None of the calories, but also none of the flavor.

What are the two you picked like?

I had some internet salmon this morning.  All of the salt, none of the sharing.

I'll let you know when I hear back from Oriana.

Sorry for the delay. RL reared its ugly head early this morning.

No, don't wait on them if you didn't get a surprise RTJ last night, GM.  I was just covering my bases in case they got a wild hair up their behind and sent one in.

:)

If we weren't at 5 players I'd probably take both.  (I still want to keep the group small.)

[Private to EAS-05; Hector Terrachova; Oriana Cy'Kast; Seely Komad; Serina Ryo: The first is from an agriworld near the outer rim who was picked up by the Jedi.  It's a human who will be front-and-center (or front-and-next-to-the-droid) with the saber.

The other has been in a library meditating up til this point.  A Miralukan consular specializing in Force powers and...consularity?

Neither are very tried in battle, which ought to make things interesting for character development.]

Well, there's not much difference in 7 vs. 6.  It's almost a pity we're at level 6, or I'd suggest that maybe one could be the padawan of the other, to give a reason for us to be assigned both simultaneously.

[Private to EAS-05; Hector Terrachova; Seely Komad; Serina Ryo: My initial inclination is that we might be lacking in someone to stand on the front line with the droid?  I don't have a really good grasp of what the rest of us can do, but my gut instinct says we're more ranged and social, and less get in the bad guys' faces.

Course, depending on what the Republic is sending us to do, they could assign one to us to be the "face" of the operation, and another to be the muscle.]

I suppose you're right.  I'll just take both.

But that is the last time I let anyone compromise my ideals for the next 10 minutes!

Really, I think it'll all work out.

[Private to Duran; EAS-05; GM; Hector Terrachova; Oriana Cy'Kast; Serina Ryo: Seely is sorta a half-frontliner.  She does have a few levels of soldier.]
This message was last edited by the player at 15:00, Thu 24 May 2012.

*watches clock*

So there's a ten-minute lockout on ideal compromising? Got it. :)

[Private to EAS-05; Hector Terrachova; Seely Komad; Serina Ryo: Aye. I figured Seely had some ability in that regard, I just wasn't sure how much. :)

Also, hoi, Miralukan Force Sight is going to get Ori in trouble in all kinds of fun ways, if she doesn't come into the first scene already in it. <.< ]

Some posts are up!  Feel free to begin!  If you're not in them, you will be soon!

*waves at the new folks*

Ahoy there, Jedi!

Ahoy non-jedi meatshields :D

Meatshield?  I bet I can hit them from arther away than you can.

So many ladies, hmmmm now why did I take all these Jedi oaths again? Damn.

Hello all.

Just remember that one guy flies the ship.  Try to not get him killed.

Starship laser batteries > Force lightning.

<.<

*runs*

*Jedi Mindtrick with finger wiggles*

You want to crash into the sun. You're feeling really cold.

Boy, its a pity you did.  I'll tell ya, ladies like a guy wih experience.

Not that the Oaths really ever stop any of the known jedi from staying celibate. ;)

Brb. Adjusting character to have Mind Trick.

Can you just imagine how wrong it would be to be a smuggler with Mind Trick?

"This cargo isn't stolen."
"Of course, I have the permits for that right here."
"You're mistaken, I wasn't anywhere near this sector."

Oh, the possibilities...

Yeah Mind Trick is the ultimate scoundrels back drop for when skills fail. Wave a hand and unless they're really disciplined or a Dug...all those problems go away for a bit. :)

Without a doubt.

[Private to GM: Amusingly, I almost took Mind Trick for Ori, but then I figured the hook of being caught by the authorities wouldn't work, because she'd just have hand-waved herself out of it. *laugh*]

Yeah, they only stop like, what, 99% of them?

That said... a good scoundrel has no need for Mind Trick.  All he needs is charm and wit.

That said, this does remind me of a moment from the Smuggler story in TOR, where he's between a Sith and a Jedi, who are both trying to Mind Trick him into helping them.   Your conversation options include flirting with the Jedi, flirting with the Sith, and deciding you've had enough of this crap.

I find it interesting that Hector seems to be behaving OUT OF character exactly the same way I'd expect him to IN character.

[Private to Oriana Cy'Kast: "Oh no I don't work with these people.  In fact, I'm pretty sure they're not criminals.  And, yeah, you're not sure either."]

What can I say, I'm a classy guy!

Plus, this sort of thing happens in most games with me.  I get into my characters, and I find it fun to let it bleed over a bit.  If it starts annoying everyone, let me know and I'll stop.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:06, Thu 24 May 2012.

Probably stops a good number but nowhere near that if the 'prime' examples all had thier adventures on the side.

I mean even old Ben seems to have had a relationship with the Mandalorian Ambassador at some point. (assuming the CW animated series is canon)

Hell look at Yoda, 900 years old and you don't think at some point just for the sake of life experiences he'd have explored those options himself? Though the picture of that wrinkly old muppet gettin sexy time is just so very wrong.

Actually, Obi-wan's been in love a few times, but never actually *did* anything about it.  It's really cute.

Yoda's a baller.  Probably had a lot of stuff going on back in the day.

You can't use an old person and say 'they had to have, right?' as an example.

While yes, many of them will have had crushes and such - no Jedi is immune to that sort of thing - only the few less valiant ones have actually acted on them.  Or, you know, the whiny-ass kids who think too much of themselves.

I think characters like Yoda and Mace Windu were just entirely too much in love with the Order itself to have had a little somethin'-somethin' on the side.

Which is, ironically, in and of itself an attachment. Go figure. :)

[Private to Hector Terrachova: Hector so reminds me of Tony Stark. I love it.]

Actually, I could see Mace having had a fling sometime in the past.  Of all the Council Members, he strays closest to the Dark Side just through the use of Vapaad alone.  He's always been a 'do what must be done' kind of guy.

That in mind... he probably wouldn't have had a fling, actually.  It would get in the way of things.

[Private to Oriana Cy'Kast: Awesome.  That's the kind of thing I've been aiming for, heh.  Glad to hear Hector's coming off right!  Now all I need is a compliment or two on the beard, and I'm all set.]

I could see it as having happened.  I just think he wouldn't have called back after saying it was over.

I'm being lazy, so I won't go find it now, but I seem to recall reading a line somewhere that explicitly stated that Mace could never be bothered with trivial pursuits like romance, because all of his devotion was to the Force and the Order.

What's really funny about the Vaapad, too, is that Mace is the only one of the four Jedi I can think of that knew it that -didn't- fall to the Dark Side.  (Although two of the others that fell did come back.)

Well, as I recall, Mace did pretty much create the Vapaad style, which is a variation on the more traditional Juyo.  The two are pretty much the same in that one respect though.  Just goes to show how badass Mace Windu was (and how ****ing STUPID it was for Anakin to have killed him, especially like that).

It was also a bit stupid for Mace to not just kill the Sith Lord in one strike.  I mean, we all know why it had to happen, but still.

*nod* Mace finished Vaapad, with Sora Bulq's assistance.  He also taught it to his Padawan, Depa Billaba.  Mace and Billaba were considered Masters of it.  Sora Bulq, after he fell and became a Dark Acolyte, taught some of it to Quinlan Vos, as well.

Billaba fell to the Dark Side, kind of came back, and wound up in a coma.  Sora Bulq fell to the Dark Side completely, and was killed by Vos.  Vos dipped a toe (or a whole leg, depending on how you look at it) into the pool of the Dark Side, but then came back.

Vaapad's cursed, I tell you. Cursed. *sagenod*

If by cursed you mean *awesome*, then yes.  It just goes to show that everyone except Mace was a noob.

Noob or not, one of those four survived Order 66.  Mace, on the other hand, is pushing daisies.  :)

(Admittedly, though, Mace is a badass. I won't even attempt to argue that.)

I feel I should point out that whenever Hector's referring to a ship, he's not referring to the stolen prototype.  Rather, his ship is the one in the impound, and is the one that he believes is the best around.  The prototype was one he stole as part of a job that would likely have paid out quite a bit.  That, of course, is back in Republic hands...

Right.  But Ori disagrees, and is interpreting his comments as she sees fit. :)

Edit: Although Marigg never tried to steal Hector's personal ship. <.<
This message was last edited by the player at 01:51, Fri 25 May 2012.

Just making sure.  The prototype was an assault gunboat - not exactly suitable for the kind of work he does, heh.

How's everyone doing today?

Wide awake, thanks to the wondrous liquid that is coffee.  You?

All right.  Going out to sell some knives (or at least get paid for the appointments).

I'm at work, getting paid to dink around on rpol <_<  It's a Friday before a holiday, so just about no one's here.

Knives would seem to be an uncommon door-to-door selling item.  I don't know that I'd open the door to someone with a bunch of sharp objects.

We make appointments to avoid coming off as telemarketers/door to door salesmen, and they're very high quality materials and construction.

Mmm. Shiiiiiiip.  I'm glad I let you sell me on Tech Specialist, GM. :)

[Private to GM: Also, totally waiting to let Hector respond to the General before Ori says anything else. I'm not ignoring her! ]
This message was last edited by the player at 16:37, Fri 25 May 2012.

Didn't sell any knives, but I get paid just to work!  Feels good!

I admit I'm a little envious, Seely.  I just keep thinking "Why am I even here?"

[Private to Oriana Cy'Kast: No worries.  My guess is Hector's a west-coaster AND a late sleeper.  This may not work out well with Duran's being in England, since they seem to have opposite waking hours.]

Meanwhile, I'm doing laundry. And hanging it out in 90 degree weather. Want to trade?

[Private to GM: I think it'll be fine, as long as they both post at least once a day.  I find that most RPoL games tend to get into a cycle of a round per day when you get into combat situations and such.  Besides, I'm not getting the feeling that Hector and Duran will likely be having many one-on-one chats where their schedule would be an issue, anyway.]

Wuzzat?  Is it daytime already?

pffft, daytime? It's almost time to go to bed, wake up already.

So I just watched Red Tails and, I gotta say, if there's one thing Lucasfilm knows how to do, its make an epic air/space battle.  God damn!

So true. I still need to watch that one.

I reccomend it.  Its quite good - a tad predictable, but a solid and excitig film nonetheless.

It's on my netflix, just not at the top yet.

At the moment, however, I'm gleefully awaiting making my children watch the Band of Brothers marathon on TV Monday.  That should be entertaining.

Home from a long 12 hour work day only to sleep and do it again tomorrow. Yay.

*falls over dead*

Goin to see the Avengers, finally.

Ooh. Have fun. :)

Sounds like a horrible job...

So I was in the mood for movies and started rewatching Star Wars... out of all the things said in the prequels, even some of Obi-Wan's best lines... my favorite has to be one of Padme's in the Senate:

"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."

Such a simple, yet powerful line.  I dunno why, but its always stuck with me.

It's probably the most insightful thing mentioned in the movie.  Especially since it doesn't involve 'absolutes' and who deals in them.

Or underestimating one's power.  Or anything fucking Hayden Christensen says.

Also, soldier and Jedis, wesa waitin'!  But seriously, I'm looking forward to this RP.  Already I can tell Ori and I are gonna have a lot of fun together.

Seriously though, 'Only Sith deal in absolutes' is probably the most comedic line ever.

This heat is hot.  Hopefully we'll be meeting the less regular members of our squad soon enough.

Catering. Just alot of standing around preping and cooking food for people that will coimplain anyways :) Least the pay is half way decent, plus you get a free meal out of it.

Hell, I'd do it for the free food.

Hey, don't rush us

There is no hurrying, there is roleplaying.

So sayeth MAster Gygax

There's also no excuse to be a Gungan, Mr. Terrachova; unless you're like me and don't care about stat penalties.

Gungan Smuggler?  That sounds like fun actually...

I played a Gungan Scoundrel once.  Wasn't that bad, but the poor creature was a bit of a brick.

Well, you did say 'Gungan'.  *flee*

Oh man, are we Easy Company?  Awesome.

Well dang, I disappear for three hours and the party starts hopping!

Heh, no kidding.  I was busy racing in a Forza 4 league when this all began.

Hm. Out of curiosity, how -old- does everyone appear to look?  I realize that Jedi tend to not show their age quite as much as non-Force Sensitives, but I'm curious how Ori should be placing everyone in the mental hierarchy she's already forming. :)


Oriana, for the record, physically appears to be somewhere around 25, but the exceptionally jaded look in her eyes might make one place her closer to 30.

On that note, Hector's never really kept track of his age, nor does he really feel its important.  He's as old as he appears in the pic, heh.  Actual age I've not decided, but in the range of late 20s, more likely early 30s.

I figure it's a fair question.  Suddenly realizing you're assigned to a job with a bunch of teenagers is slightly more unsettling than being assigned to a group of adults and all. :)

I dunno, I'd be more worried about joining a bunch of Padawans in their late 20s than I would a team of young teenage Jedi.

Serina's 23 so I'm assuming she looks somewhere around that age :)

Hey now, Obi-wan was 25 circa Phantom Menace, and he turned out awesome.  I wouldn't worry about it. :)

Could ber worse. 'Hi I'm youngling Jedi wanna be!'

Not only am I in training I can't enter cantinas either!


As for Shanda she looks to be in her mid twenties. Which is approximately her actual age.

To be fair, most places with the kind of Cantinas this outfit would end up in don't care who or what you bring in to 'em unless they're from a rival gang or something.

That's why the younglings are usually in the Temple, not traipsing about the galaxy. :)

I've not watched it yet, but it might be good:  Star Wars as spoken by some of the big names in voice acting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBzRmWeC6Ds

Oh it came up earlier but Duran is about the same age as Obi Wan was just before he became a knight, about 24.

Also, just because I'm too lazy too look, what feat or skill do you need to shoot ship guns?

I'm under the impression that anyone can handle a turret gun, given the number of times we see everyone and their bother hop on one.  I'll dig around the starship PDF and verify that, though.

yeah there's no real 'Weapon Proficiency(Gunnery)' anymore. Use to exist in the old d6 RPG. However there is talents (I think for scout or scoundrel) that generally give some bonuses. Like most ranged weapons though generally a good dexterity will be key.

Bah, had to have a look, apparently it's WP heavy weapons, so Duran get's -5....but I think size bonuses do help.

The bonus on the guns themselves will offset that minus, and then some.  Duran might not be the best shot in the world, but he won't be in the negatives.

Not on the Skyfisher, at least. <.<

Well dex is pretty good, and his BAB is full as a Jedi so he should be a pretty good shot all in all, might consider the investment in a heavy weapon prof if we fly around a lot.

And Oriana! How dare you ruin my galant gesture? This is not how it goes in the holo-vids....for saving you from the groping of the dredful Captain Terrorchova I expect at least eternal gratitude and possible unrequited love.

Nevermind that expecting the old stubborn Captain to not have an opinion is just silly.  Never expect a nearly middle-aged Twi'lek to not have an opinion.

And to think Shanda was going to offer to be the one sleeping in the cargo hold. Bad Padawan, no cookie for you :P

No cookie? Shanda, please no attachments, what did your master teach you?

Don't you guys know we Jedi love self sacrifice..

What I don't understand is why two girls don't get the double bed, then everyone is happy....I think.

Well, to be honest, it's not that Oriana doesn't expect Seely to have an opinion:  It's that on the ship, the only two opinions that really matter are hers and Terrachova's.  As far as she's concerned, when it comes right down to it, the passengers will take the cabins assigned to them and like it.

Oriana's also used to people that aren't used to living in the cramped confines of a starship having a reasonable expectation of some personal space, Jedi included - especially Jedi, really, for their daily meditations.

(But she does appreciate the gallant gesture, and it's not like she's going to be sleeping WITH our resident lecher. :) )

Heh, don't count Terrachova out just yet, still a simple call to said gallant Jedi and a lightsaber could be laid between the two of you to preserve the maiden's innocence.

I think Sergeant Ryo might get the closest thing this ship has to a maiden.  Or maybe Shanda, but I'm not sure if Jedi can count as maidens.

Sleeping next to a lit lightsaber sounds decidedly dangerous. o.O

Both for one's self, and the integrity of the ship.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:22, Tue 29 May 2012.

Well really don't have to worry about meditations Jedi are trained to do it anywhere. Only the Masters get the big cushy beanbag chairs to rest thier rumps on :)

I'd just use a blaster.  Not quite as much risk of overpenetrating the ship's hull, and just as much 'hey, stop it' if you have to actually pull the trigger.

Hey, hey, hey... let's not be shooting up the nice ship just yet.  We just got this baby back from Republic impound.

Ahh, you guys are going to ruin all his romantic ideas I can see it know. Just because he can't fall in love doesn't mean he doesn't think it's something special, and believe in all that stuff...now you're going to tell him none of the woman are maidens!

Oh dear this is not going to end well.

Shanda is a maiden, though for all intents and purposes she's also a nun so yeah, yer kinda screwed there.

D'aw.  I support Duran's notions of romance, and I don't imagine that (unless he directly asks or someone's really, really crass) he's really going to know who is and isn't a proper maiden.

<.<

Okay, maybe I couldn't type that with a straight face.  But if he's grown up in the Jedi Temple, surrounded by Jedi, it's entirely possible that he's a bit of a hayseed as it comes to non-Jedi, and treats all females the same, not being able to really identify the difference between the virtuous and non-virtuous?

What? there are non-virtuous females?

Oh dear, I was in fact counting on there being a number of non-virtuous females on the crew and them taking great delight in his...naivety. He's a hero's hero, or at least he's trying to be.

Hrm.  Seducing Jedi and working off their naivete.  As entertaining as that sounds, that also sounds like the sort of pastime that might not lend itself to being conducive to a happy work environment.

[Private to Duran: Duran's been searching out with his feelings and sensing things, is his mind closed off at the moment, or open?]

Nononono, don't seduce him, please! You only get to laugh at him when he treats you like some kind of holy virgin.....he's still a Jedi!

[Private to Oriana Cy'Kast: his mind is almost always open, he has the Force perception talent so he doesn't close his mind just about at all.]

?

[Private to Oriana Cy'Kast: Hey!  I got this!  Duran may or may not know yet either!  (Unless that is not what you were going to talk about, in which case, carry on.)]

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

If Duran treats Oriana like a holy virgin, that's going to be the most comical thing ever. <.<

[Private to GM: Nope, not that! Just going to touch his mind with a bit of telepathy, because he seems a little upset. :)]

And on THAT note, just letting you all know that I'm having a busy morning but should be able to post at some point.  Carry on, this is fun to read.

Well, here is how it works, go to sleep in the same room as Terrachova and have distressing feelings.....

Your response will not be:

Hey Romancing the Habit!

Hmmm, actually now that I think about it the Jedi could even share a bunk. If we can force trance then we only need four hours each....forgot about that.[Private to Oriana Cy'Kast: This of course includes others trained in the force.....naughty girl.]

Now we just need Hector to wake up... <.<

Maybe we should get into a habit of waiting for others a bit earlier...

Man, and I missed so much fun too...
This message was last edited by the player at 19:05, Tue 29 May 2012.

Hey now, I've been waiting for you for the past four hours! <.<

Judging by your post count you don't wait much yourself ;) Oh and just to point out I'm about to go to sleep, so if I waited I'd never post...wake up earlier ;)

Forgive me for having things to do today, heh.

In reply to Duran (msg #229):

If you wait a few minutes, you can have a response to your last post.  I'm just letting Hector get one in first.



Believe me, I know. I'm going to be out of the house for a few hours tomorrow too. :(

np, wasn't moaning, just letting Hector know we had our priorities right :D

Oh, its all good, I'm just giving you a hard time.  I'm entitled to it.  Because I say so.

Man...  Disappear to do some work and I fall so far behind.

At the moment, unless anyone has any questions for me or needs to talk to an NPC, you guys are on your own until takeoff.

Oriana, I don't see any explosives on your character sheet so you won't be getting them back ;)

[Private to Oriana Cy'Kast: Also, you can decide where X2 is hiding, but I was going to put it in the engine room, out of sight as much as it can manage and powered down due to shock (the "fear" kind, not electric).  I may add it as an actual NPC depending on how often the party interacts with it.]

That's because Ori didn't have any explosives on her character sheet. She was trying to bullshit Seely into getting her some. ;)

[Private to GM: Out of my head! I was just asking that in the PM thread. :)]

Oh oops.  <_<

Little too bad that the stuff's so expensive, though.  Seely will wrangle one block out of the military while they yet have time, if she may (with appropriate payments and hand-greasings, of course).

Yeah. If it'd been a more reasonable price, I'd have stocked up to begin with, but alas.

Someone else is going to have to pay for the Timer, though.

I'll just resolve that OOC to keep things moving in there.  You are able to request it via a system similar to email through your datapad.  Garza acknowledges it fairly quickly and sends it on through.  It'll have been delivered to the Skyfisher by the time you got there.

Oriana's original request to the letter, fulfilled, unless you wanted something else.

Hang onto your credits, we might need them more on Corellia.  If push comes to shove, I'm certain that Hector or Oriana can find someone willing to deliver explosives in a pinch.

It's not like we really -need- explosives yet, Ori was just going to milk the military for them if she could, as a 'thank you' for her incarceration vacation, and the manhandling of her ship. :)

Anyone speak Binary besides Easy?

I do.

/edit

Well Shanda understands it, she can't speak it.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:59, Tue 29 May 2012.

Yo!

Have a personal translator, so can understand

I am amused, greatly, at the number of us that can understand Binary. <.<

Don't worry, I'm still Binary-illiterate.

In reply to Oriana Cy'Kast (msg #247):

I got like six languages because of Linguistics, so...yeah.  I thought Binary was an important language for a soldier.

Technically I need to roll a DC 10 check to understand, or at least to get my translator to translate. But I think it makes sense for what is essentially a droid brain without the droid to understand binary easily enough.

Thanks, Hector, for reaffirming my faith in humanity.

(There's a line you'll probably never see again.)

What's going to make me laugh, here, is if all of ours overlap.

[Private to Seely Komad: Huttese, Bocce, Binary?]

Not linguistics...uh...that Noble feat.

...wait a minute, I didn't take enough languages.  I forgot Ryl is a Twi'lek base language.

[Private to Oriana Cy'Kast: Basic, Ryl, Binary, Zabrak, Huttese, Shyriiwook]

I wanted to take Durese, too, but just couldn't spend the feat for it, since I couldn't think of more languages that made sense for the character to go with it.

I just didn't want to take a redundant feat (MCing from Soldier to Noble).

heh mine likely overlaps a bit as Shanda can speak Ryl as well. Even got wookie screech speech for the heck of it. Coulda probably picked gungan for an equally unlikely encounter language :)

Rectified.  Added Rodese.

Ungh some mornings it just doesn't pay to get out of bed.

Oh and Serina has binary too

I think we've all got Binary, then, save for Hector.  So much for being that rare language only known by people who spent so much time with their droids that they picked up fluency with it, huh?

Once again I point out, Duran has a translator, he only knows Basic and Ryl....

Also this is a select group of elite commandos, the rules might not apply :P

Yes, yes. I know Duran has his translator, and there's not a "rule" for Binary anyway.  I was just making the observation. <.<

Don't worry I'm sure you and X2 can share sweet nothings with each other in some other language that not all of us might know ;)

There's a dirty joke here about droids and vibrate settings, isn't there?

*looks around cautiously*

Ori likes the little droid, but not like that!

Well there was a modified B.o.B. joke coming up but I think it would require a higher game rating :P

I'm sure it would require a higher rating, and the lower rating is why I'm happy to play a jedi ;)

LOL, joking....

Hah!

Actually, we're tagged Mature.  I believe we're covered for insinuations, just not graphic descriptions. ;)

(Edit: Yup, just double-checked the FAQ. We're in the clear! \o/ )
This message was last edited by the player at 13:11, Wed 30 May 2012.

Can never be too sure. Those sneaky mods are everywhere trying to moderate me :P
This message was last edited by the player at 13:09, Wed 30 May 2012.

BTW: Binary is a private group now.  Just going to be for the droid though.  Already tired of Private to 5 of you.

Also, Quaker's "Chewy Dipps" are not very tasty.

You should go with Nature's Valley Sweet and Salty bars.  Those are pretty tasty.

I was thinking about it but went with Oats n Honey instead.

Mmm. Nature's Valley bars. Omnomnom.

My youngest has just built a fleet of Republic Gunships with magnetix.  I find this awesome.

+1 to awesome vote from me. Post coming shortly, there is a disturbance in the Children, I have to  feed the little blighter's.

Awesome vote from me too.  When I have mids someday, I will be teaching these things for sure.  They will know that the X-wing is the ship they should fantasize about flying someday in the future, and they shall always have enough lego/current building toy to build as big a fleet as they want.

On that note, its still a plan of mine to buy all the pieces needed to build that 5 foot long SSDbmodel that one guy made.  He put up a pdf of instructions and I still have it, backed up in three places no less.

What's funny is that I haven't taught mine any of this.  Star Wars Lego is his favorite Xbox game, and he constantly builds stuff.  I suppose it's just a natural progression that he can build identifiable versions of pretty much everything with Legos or magnetix.

(I've lost count of the number of droid tanks and X-wings and B-wings and ARC fighters that have been made and sat on my desk.  Today's the first for Republic gunships, though.  Droidekas are the ones made the most.)

Sounds a lot like me when I was younger, only a lot better at building recognizeable stuff.  You've got an awesome kid, heh.

Hmmm, so how many pilots did we end up with? I'm thinking about my next talent and the possibility of taking a solider cross class, but I can't see a real advantage so Force Pilot seems pretty cool....still lots to look for.

Oh, Duran, I got my post inwhile you were typing yours it seems.  You may want to edit a bit, if you plan to dignify me with a reply to Hector's comment.

Hector's our only true pilot, as far as excessive amounts of skill are involved, as far as I'm aware.

I imagine some of the rest of us can fake it in a pinch, for simple things, but as far as fancy maneuvers we want to keep Hector in one piece.

Will look now, edit should be in the next 5 minutes.

Edited

Force pilot is cool and all, but a waste of a talent or feat when you have me along planning to take levels in Ace Pilot.

It's never a waste to have a backup, but it might be a waste if someone had planned on making that their niche.

It's just a thought, don't co-pilots help a lot? I don't really know the ship piloting stuff by heart. I've still got to earn the XP to get to 7th level, and then I can actually by it, just planning early.

Really depends on the ship.  If the ship's set up to be run by a single pilot (like the Skyfisher is, for example), then it could kind of be a waste.  If we wind up upgrading to a ship with a larger crew requirement, well, it could be handy.

Kind of hard to say at this point, really.

They do, but I figure thats what Ori will be doing.  Plus, if you're going full saber Jedi, I can guarantee you there is a better talent you can take..  Saber Jedi gets almost all of his most useful abilities through talents.  For example, block, deflect, and redirect are essential first.  Also, check the Force talents, and talents added to the Jedi class in other books like the Jedi Academy book.

God. Talents and saber-based Jedi.  There's never enough. And don't even get me started on the Force Powers, and having to take Force Training over and over as a regular feat to pick up saber form powers, because for some idiot reason it's not on the bonus feat list for Jedi.

(I mean, really, you'd think that should be on that list. :P )

Trust me, a well built or focused Jedi is still overpowered the way it is now, heh.  Really, you only need like, half the eats you get as a Jedi, leaving a lot of room for more skill training or focus, or force training.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:19, Wed 30 May 2012.

Yes. Because I missed this. Make no mistake, that co-pilot's seat on the Skyfisher is hers - until something breaks elsewhere and she has to go fix it.

Right two out of three right there, but I took force perception rather than redirect for now. Redirect was highest on my list and Force Training, what is with that not being on the list, well I got that twice already so all good so far.

Lightsaber forms I'm looking at so far are Shien and Soresu, so that should keep those of you with blasters busy :D

Shien is my favorite. I approve.

Reverse grip, or traditional, though? *dubious eyebrow*

As long as no one holds their blaster sideways...

Ahem, Makashi.  Though, that is sometimes better suited towards force-focused Jedi.

Traditional, Duran is traditional, plus then he can swap between the two without problems.

I'm debating at the moment whether or not to just build a standard lightsaber or go with the double handed lightsaber, not double sided, the two handed version.

And I'm still knew to this particular Starwars, the last time I played starwars they were still using d6 only :D

Long-handle lightsaber?

I love those. They're a Jedi with low Str's best friend. <.<

I gotta go for Soresu or Ataru, if only because I can't player hate.

That they are, particularly with Rapid Strike :D And I always get the name wrong. They do keep the level damage though don't they?

Delightfully, longhandle sabers upgrade their damage die to a d10, if you forego the application of a Str bonus when wielding them two-handed.

A DC10 Knowledge(galactic lore) check garners you most of the period-relative (ie, you don't know who Han Solo is because he hasn't been born yet, etc) information here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Corellia.  DC20 would get you more specific stuff, like names of nobles etc.

The companies from there, like CEC, are fairly pervasive throughout the galaxy, to the extent that if you've been anywhere near a spaceport you've probably seen a Corellian ship.

Hot diggity.  A roll I can actually make. I knew Galactic Lore was going to come in handy.

*starts making out a list of the best cantinas on Corellia*

I took knowledge in underworld/crime world, so we're well balanced, heh.

Also, dual-phase lightsaber for the win.  Especially if you get yourself a barab ingot crystal.

In reply to Hector Terrachova (msg #302):

Hector who is the arrogant comment aimed at, I can't see anything in Duran's reply that is arrogant, but I might be wrong :D Would love to respond, I can see these two getting on about as well as Han and Luke did to start with :D

It was aimed at both you Jedifor that "oh thats just like our training" comment.  I thought that would be easy to catch... You yuys were hardly humble there, heh.

With regards to the mention of Luke, the Family Guy parody got it right.  Luke defends the Force like a zealot, despite having learned about just a couple hours back, heh.

Ummm, that's what I thought, Duran didn't say anything that was why I asked. He simply smiled at Shanda....

That said how many masters don't hang their apprentice's upside down and swing them about while they try and focus on the force to lift something with their mind....or perhaps that's only what I would do if I was a Jedi Master.

EDIT: NO he did say something, yay I can reply.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:53, Wed 30 May 2012.

Hector addressed 'Jedi', not Duran specifically.  Shandra is mainly the one he is calling arrogant - not maliciously, as he knows he is every bit as arrogant.  But, he does also see Duran's confidence as a bit misplaced.

I also really, really doubt theres a way to practically train for this sort ofthig without specifically training for it.  The experience would be completely different, even from havig your master throw you around.  A simulator would be best, but that doesn't train dealing with g-forces and such.  Anyway, thats just me ranting, don't mind it, heh.

Suddenly I find myself wondering if you can spend Force points for additional damage on ship guns...and if you only get one die still, if you can.

Edit: Apparently not, but boy would that be pretty entertaining if you could. :)
This message was last edited by the player at 19:11, Wed 30 May 2012.

Heh, Hector rant away :D

We're both using the fact that we have full attack bonus and most likely good dex to assume we can do this. So we're one worse, we're metagaming ;)

That said, farm boy luke could do it without a problem and he blamed the force and he's barely trained.

Yes, but don't forget, Luke did it while the Falcon was flying straight and level.  Try gunning while the ship is, say, weaving through an asteroid field, and things become a deal more complicated.

Thankfully, at that point, the asteroid field gives the enemy penalties too.

Regardless, just don't crash the ship while Seely's on it.

Read: Make sure to jettison Seely out the airlock before crashing the ship.

Because that's totally safer.

But what if I only crash it a little bit?  Is that okay?

That's not crashing, it's landing with flair.

Oriana's got the right idea.

Hm. Where's Seely physically standing in the cockpit?

I get the idea she's like, leaning against the entryway, or against the back wall just inside.

heh sorry if Shanda came across as arrogant, wasn't the intent. She was just interjecting that jedi training is pretty much like what Hector was describing :)

I know what you meant, although I don't agree.  I don't really see Jedi training being in any way similar to trying to hit a fast moving, agile target with a high powered cannon while sitting in the equivalent of a high-speed teacup ride.

But anyway, better get yourself strapped in.

Depends on the level of training.

Oh well.

I'd like to think its more akin to defending from an assault that's whirling around you at that pace.  Similar, but different perspective.

Aw man. I was writing up a post to get them out of the docking bay. :(

Could always do it retroactively or something.

Go for it.  I'll delete mine or something.

(ie, pretend my post isn't there for now)

.../edit: Unless you already wrote it up, saw my post, and trashed it, and it's not worth doing again :P  (in which case, sorry?)
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:20, Wed 30 May 2012.

<.<

I didn't trash it.  You'll just have to pretend those two posts are in reverse order. :)

Simple transposition.  Sort of.  Delete and re-post.

And Hector complained that we didn't wait ;) Right time for rooting through Oriana's things.

Hey, GM said he was going to pull us out of hyperspace in a post this morning, so we only had one shot to get that conversation in uninterrupted. :)

(besides, it was probably all of maybe an hour's worth of talk, in a ten-hour trip, if that much!)

Enough talk to be sneaky, if that's what one is into.

Bwahaha. Oh, Duran, that post is priceless. I'm so glad I didn't have a hot cup of coffee while reading that, my keyboard would be wearing it.

Well done! *two thumbs up*
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Thank you :D

Duran Jedi Knightttttt!

Fearless in battle,

Powerful in the force,

Unbeatable with a lightsaber,

No idea how to deal with woman's negligee!

I like every character to have a weakness, and a chance for comedy occasionally, his are both in the same area. Just be glad you didn't walk in while he was with the Underwear, he would have thrown himself out the airlock.

Just to be clear: are those class of cruisers Republic, Sith, or otherwise?

Sorry, editted message for requested clarity.  I wrote over that a few times, and must have taken out the one instance of "Sith" with the intent to put it back somewhere else and forgot.

Do the jedi get any warning? Any sudden disturbance in the force?

Presumably we're all done sleeping, and there's even been some ion gun training :D

No.

And yeah, probably some ion gun training has happened, at least in simulation (I'm not sure now shooting into hyperspace works?) but it's not like you suddenly get a weapon proficiency feat :P

LOL, of course but don't want to jump in the gun and say I know how the thing works when I've don't even know the way to the ladder....

Say how do force powers work in starship combat? Can I use any of them that might be useful? Basically Battle Strike the main one I'm interested in.

I'll look it up in a few minutes.  If it just says "an attack roll" then yeah it would work.

And yeah, everyone's rested enough, particularly the Jedi with their trances.  I'm not imposing any penalties here for lack of sleep.

Heh.  Too bad Born Leader requires a line of sight.

Starships of the galaxy says that you count as having line of sight to any ship with which you are in communication, so it could work..

I was just thinking of hanging out in the ladder to the gunports and relaying information between gunners and the front.

Also, I think our comms are down.

The comms in the ship ought to work, but jammers are often wonky, from what I've read.  I'll let you use it, just run around the ship screaming at everyone.

Just kidding, you're fine to use it on the ship.  But no shots have been fired yet, guys!  Settle down!  :P

Oh that's just a future consideration, of course!  We're not exactly in a position to argue with the Sith Fleet.

Duran: Yes, Battle Strike will work with ship guns.

Ah, I wander away for an hour and stuff starts hopping. Let me catch up.

Also, GM, the Skyfisher -does- have an IFF transponder, and if he's not been wiped, X2 should have a frequency we can transmit to the Imperials using it that will make them not want to blast us out of orbit.

The ship is not so large that you can't holler from one end to the other.  Her total length and width are under 80 feet, the interior corridors are significantly less.

Even then, the onboard PA system doesn't have anything that can be jammed. It's just a series of intercoms between points, hard-wired into the ship.  The turrets are going to have communication with the cockpit, as is the engine bay.  Marigg was no dummy.

Edit: And we should probably wait for Hector to get in a post before we start doing things, too.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:05, Thu 31 May 2012.

He's kinda flying the ship unless he gets knocked out by turbulence, so, it'd be prudent to let him get a post in, yeah.

Does X2 still have his Imperial IFF code, GM?

Also, is this a massive jamming array that we happen to be caught in, or a single jamming suite locked onto us specifically? (The former seems like the obvious answer, but never can be too cautious.)

[Private to GM: If he doesn't, Ori's second action is going to be to start trying to access the Imperial matrix to get a proper IFF code online. ]

It's listed on the ship specs you gave me, so yes it's there.

And I'm not sure how Oriana would find out the answer to your second question.  The idea is your ship's scanners have a equivalent of a very bright light shining at them, making it difficult to detect anything.  Of course, the Imperials wouldn't be able to do much with their scanners either, so they'd be relying on visible spectrum scanning as well (ie, with their eyes).  They've blanketted the frequencies with static and gibberish, basically.

Let's have Seely (and anyone else with it) roll a Knowledge(Tactics).

They laughed at me at Captain School.  They told me Skill Focus: Know: Tactics was for cowards who were afraid to fight.

Who is dying now, generic Republic officers?

Seely Komad rolled 33 using 1d20+15. Knowledge Tactics?  My favorite!

Yeah. I actually wasn't sure how one would tell, either. Hence the asking. :)

And the IFF transponder is built into the ship. It'll use any code we put into it.  The question was whether or not X2 still had an Imperial code we could put in. (Since we'd not clarified whether or not he'd been memory wiped, ever.)

Minorly irrelevant at the moment, perhaps. I can't find anything that clarifies whether or not the transponder will work independently of our currently jammed communications, although I think it would, being a different system.

Knowledge check's sorta pointless until the question comes up IC, but, hey, the knowledge is there, all we gotta do is use it!

Given the static on the scanners, they're likely jammed as well.

[Private to Seely Komad: So given how quickly your ship was jammed, and given the size of the Sith force, they're probably not here for you unless someone on board is really not who they claim to be (cuz I mean, an entire fleet?  they'd probably just hire a few bounty hunters).  With the number of ships the Sith have, they're looking to do some damage, thus if they threw the jammers up that quickly, they're hoping to do that damage by surprise, and to the Corellians.

Also, they'll need to lower the veil they're producing with their scanning jammers as well if they plan to deploy any missile-type ordnance (which they usually do, from fighter-bombers), otherwise they're relying entirely on blind-fired turbolaser batteries.]

[Private to Oriana Cy'Kast: Also, from your Knowledge(gal.lore) earlier, you probably know that Corellia is quite famous for its ships.  This would confirm Serina's comment about them probably having some defenses.  Whether or not they're ready to bear is a question you don't know the answer to.]

PM stuff

[Private to Seely Komad: And yeah, not enough time to relate that to everyone just yet.]

Well, that was a pretty craptastic time to roll a 3. *sob*

Edit: Although I suppose there's still hope the jamming ship rolls poorly on it's Use Computer check.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:47, Thu 31 May 2012.

Hmm before I have my heroic Jedi jumping into his Ion Cannon and trying to work out what to shoot, is there anyone who actually has heavy weapons proficency? Or has some other thing that would qualify them to be a better gunner?

Although I'm so hoping the IFF and staying behind something big will work better...

Stupid Master, it's not a disturbance it's a whole damn army!

ALSO btw, you and the Imps are 8 squares from the planet, in starship scale.  IF they're using jamming arrays to blanket the area, those cover a 6-square radius.

The Skyfisher has a speed of 3 squares in that scale.

Ori's probably a smidge better, but she's busy.  That being said, I don't think we're a target until (as Seely said) we make ourselves one, so let's not be hasty. :)



Still waiting to hear if X2's got a working Imperial IFF code we can send*, or if the IFF transponder will even work through being jammed.

*-I assume that Ori knows if the little bugger's got one or not, and will certainly have him put it in if he does. -I- just don't know.



Presumably per-ship that's carrying an array. *sadface*  I still have my fingers crossed that the Imperial ship will roll less than a 24 on its part of the opposed check. *rubs horseshoe, for good measure*

Heh, I just want to sit in the seat in case someone comes shooting, and I assume you're better because you have the feat....lucky you ;)

Will wait till Terror has posted before I jump in, perhaps he'll even make it an order.

X2 was not memory wiped.  Sorry, the benefit to PbP is I have so much more time to think of NPC responses.  The drawback is I can face a lot more questions at one time, and memory is not my strong suit.

It's all good chief.  We were kind of bombarding you with questions. I wasn't worried, since the comms aren't back up yet anyway. :)



Interesting question on this note, because the PDF doesn't seem to say:  Using the Pilot skill to Increase Vehicle Speed adds 1 square to the vehicle's move, plus an additional one square for each 5 over the DC of 20.  The Skyfisher gives a +5 or +10 (for all out movement) on that check, so it's a safe bet that Hector can really light 'er up if he wants to.

Which begs the question: Are those additional squares regular squares, or starship-scale squares?
This message was last edited by the player at 18:43, Thu 31 May 2012.

Aren't Starship squares scaled up heavily?

If so, a regular square wouldn't be worth DC 20.

I think they are starship squares... but the pilot skill also tends to get kinda nerfed in saga doesn't it? Don't get to use your own dexterity, instead have to use the ships, and you get the ships size modifier, which is a -10 in everything not a starfighter basically? That's how it was explained to me anyway. It was too confusing so i never made a pilot character again :P