Chinese Vote

1. Condemns the use of WMDs by North Korea: YES
   
2. Condemns the use of WMDs by China: NO
   
3. Vows that charges of Crimes against Humanity be brought before the international court at the Hague against the leadership of the Democratic Republic of Korea: YES
   
4. commits to the overthrow the Government of the Democratic Republic of Korea (or whatever remains of it) and the restoration of a United Korea by force of arms: YES
   
5. exceptionally, and due to the hasty and desesperate situation, the votes of this specific Assembly meeting should be considered as binding as any UNSC resolution, and overrule them if needed: YES
   
6. Vows that charges of Crimes against Humanity be brought before the international court at the Hague against the leadership of the People's Republic of China: NO
   
7. all countries should be ordered to refrain use more violence unless attacked first: YES
   
8. any MDW using from now on should be considered a war decalaration against all present countries (unless responding to attacks occurring since the vote): NO
   
9. we demand an immediate ceasefire in the whole Korean penninsula. Troops there should begin immediate disaster relief duties. If that is done, all present countries will aid them to the best of our capabilities: NO
   
10. Demands that suitable compensation and aid be paid by China for the damage caused by its attack with WMDs: YES
    
11. Resolves to strip China of the capability to use Weapons of Mass Destruction: NO
    
12. Resolves to strip North Korea of the capability to use Weapons of Mass Destruction: YES
    
13. Commits to the enforcement of all sections of this resolution by all means necessary including forcé of arms: YES

Canada Does not attend
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France vote:

1. Condemns the use of WMDs by North Korea: YES
   
2. Condemns the use of WMDs by China: YES
   
3. Vows that charges of Crimes against Humanity be brought before the international court at the Hague against the leadership of the Democratic Republic of Korea: YES
   
4. commits to the overthrow the Government of the Democratic Republic of Korea (or whatever remains of it) and the restoration of a United Korea by force of arms: YES
   
5. exceptionally, and due to the hasty and desesperate situation, the votes of this specific Assembly meeting should be considered as binding as any UNSC resolution, and overrule them if needed: YES
   
6. Vows that charges of Crimes against Humanity be brought before the international court at the Hague against the leadership of the People's Republic of China: ABSTAIN
   
7. all countries should be ordered to refrain use more violence unless attacked first: YES
   
8. any MDW using from now on should be considered a war decalaration against all present countries (unless responding to attacks occurring since the vote): ABSTAIN
   
9. we demand an immediate ceasefire in the whole Korean penninsula. Troops there should begin immediate disaster relief duties. If that is done, all present countries will aid them to the best of our capabilities: YES
   
10. Demands that suitable compensation and aid be paid by China for the damage caused by its attack with WMDs: YES
    
11. Resolves to strip China of the capability to use Weapons of Mass Destruction: ABSTAIN
    
12. Resolves to strip North Korea of the capability to use Weapons of Mass Destruction: YES
    
13. Commits to the enforcement of all sections of this resolution by all means necessary including forcé of arms: YES

South Korean vote:

1. Condemns the use of WMDs by North Korea: YES
   
2. Condemns the use of WMDs by China: YES
   
3. Vows that charges of Crimes against Humanity be brought before the international court at the Hague against the leadership of the Democratic Republic of Korea: YES
   
4. commits to the overthrow the Government of the Democratic Republic of Korea (or whatever remains of it) and the restoration of a United Korea by force of arms: YES
   
5. exceptionally, and due to the hasty and desperate situation, the votes of this specific Assembly meeting should be considered as binding as any UNSC resolution, and overrule them if needed: YES
   
6. Vows that charges of Crimes against Humanity be brought before the international court at the Hague against the leadership of the People's Republic of China: YES
   
7. all countries should be ordered to refrain use more violence unless attacked first: YES
   
8. any MDW using from now on should be considered a war decalaration against all present countries (unless responding to attacks occurring since the vote): YES
   
9. we demand an immediate ceasefire in the whole Korean penninsula. Troops there should begin immediate disaster relief duties. If that is done, all present countries will aid them to the best of our capabilities: NO
   
10. Demands that suitable compensation and aid be paid by China for the damage caused by its attack with WMDs: YES
    
11. Resolves to strip China of the capability to use Weapons of Mass Destruction: YES
    
12. Resolves to strip North Korea of the capability to use Weapons of Mass Destruction: YES
    
13. Commits to the enforcement of all sections of this resolution by all means necessary including forcé of arms: YES

In reply to South Korea (msg # 66):

UK vote:

1. Condemns the use of WMDs by North Korea: YES
   
2. Condemns the use of WMDs by China: YES
   
3. Vows that charges of Crimes against Humanity be brought before the international court at the Hague against the leadership of the Democratic Republic of Korea: YES
   
4. commits to the overthrow the Government of the Democratic Republic of Korea (or whatever remains of it) and the restoration of a United Korea by force of arms: YES
   
5. exceptionally, and due to the hasty and desperate situation, the votes of this specific Assembly meeting should be considered as binding as any UNSC resolution, and overrule them if needed: Abstain
   
6. Vows that charges of Crimes against Humanity be brought before the international court at the Hague against the leadership of the People's Republic of China: Abstain
   
7. all countries should be ordered to refrain use more violence unless attacked first: YES
   
8. any MDW using from now on should be considered a war decalaration against all present countries (unless responding to attacks occurring since the vote): YES
   
9. we demand an immediate ceasefire in the whole Korean penninsula. Troops there should begin immediate disaster relief duties. If that is done, all present countries will aid them to the best of our capabilities: Abstain
   
10. Demands that suitable compensation and aid be paid by China for the damage caused by its attack with WMDs: YES
    
11. Resolves to strip China of the capability to use Weapons of Mass Destruction: NO
    
12. Resolves to strip North Korea of the capability to use Weapons of Mass Destruction: YES
    
13. Commits to the enforcement of all sections of this resolution by all means necessary including forcé of arms: YES

In reply to UK (msg # 67):


US vote:

1. Condemns the use of WMDs by North Korea: YES
   
2. Condemns the use of WMDs by China: YES
   
3. Vows that charges of Crimes against Humanity be brought before the international court at the Hague against the leadership of the Democratic Republic of Korea: YES
   
4. commits to the overthrow the Government of the Democratic Republic of Korea (or whatever remains of it) and the restoration of a United Korea by force of arms: YES
   
5. exceptionally, and due to the hasty and desperate situation, the votes of this specific Assembly meeting should be considered as binding as any UNSC resolution, and overrule them if needed: YES
   
6. Vows that charges of Crimes against Humanity be brought before the international court at the Hague against the leadership of the People's Republic of China: Abstain
   
7. all countries should be ordered to refrain use more violence unless attacked first: NO
   
8. any MDW using from now on should be considered a war decalaration against all present countries (unless responding to attacks occurring since the vote): YES
   
9. we demand an immediate ceasefire in the whole Korean penninsula. Troops there should begin immediate disaster relief duties. If that is done, all present countries will aid them to the best of our capabilities: NO
   
10. Demands that suitable compensation and aid be paid by China for the damage caused by its attack with WMDs: YES
    
11. Resolves to strip China of the capability to use Weapons of Mass Destruction: Abstain
    
12. Resolves to strip North Korea of the capability to use Weapons of Mass Destruction: YES
    
13. Commits to the enforcement of all sections of this resolution by all means necessary including forcé of arms: YES

In reply to USA (msg # 68):

Following discussions between members of the security council and other affected parties (S Korea liaising though the US) a proposal was presented to the Security Council by the US which has now passed.

The resolution is as follows


Votes of the P5 as follows;

1 - All YES
2 - All YES
3 - All YES
4 - 4 YES (UK, US, France, China) 1 Abstention (Russia)
5 - All YES
6 - All YES

We believe this resolution provides the best means of achieving stability in the region and to restore peace to the region.
This cannot undo the damage that has been done, nothing can, but it will prevent further catastrophic damage and will prevent this conflict spiraling out of control into a more general war or a WMD exchange in a war of mutually assured destruction.

As we're reaching deadline, results are (assuming our votes can be extrapolated):

The United nations General assembly

1. Condemns the use of WMDs by North Korea: unanimously approved
   
2. Condemns the use of WMDs by China: 87.5% yes, 12.5% no: Approved
   
3. Vows that charges of Crimes against Humanity be brought before the international court at the Hague against the leadership of the Democratic Republic of Korea: unanimously approved
   
4. commits to the overthrow the Government of the Democratic Republic of Korea (or whatever remains of it) and the restoration of a United Korea by force of arms: unanimously approved
   
5. exceptionally, and due to the hasty and desesperate situation, the votes of this specific Assembly meeting should be considered as binding as any UNSC resolution, and overrule them if needed: unanimously approved
   
6. Vows that charges of Crimes against Humanity be brought before the international court at the Hague against the leadership of the People's Republic of China: 25% yes, 12.5% no, 62.5% abstention. Not having reached the 2/3 needed, dismissed
   
7. all countries should be ordered to refrain use more violence unless attacked first: 87.5% yes, 12.5% no: Approved
   
8. any MDW using from now on should be considered a war decalaration against all present countries (unless responding to attacks occurring since the vote): 50% yes, 25% no, 25% abstention. Not having reached the 2/3 needed, dismissed
   
9. we demand an immediate ceasefire in the whole Korean penninsula. Troops there should begin immediate disaster relief duties. If that is done, all present countries will aid them to the best of our capabilities: 50% yes, 37.5% no, 12.5% abstention. Not having reached the 2/3 needed, dismissed
   
10. Demands that suitable compensation and aid be paid by China for the damage caused by its attack with WMDs: unanimously approved
    
11. Resolves to strip China of the capability to use Weapons of Mass Destruction: 25% yes, 25% no, 50% abstention. Not having reached the 2/3 needed, dismissed
    
12. Resolves to strip North Korea of the capability to use Weapons of Mass Destruction: unanimously approved
    
13. Commits to the enforcement of all sections of this resolution by all means necessary including force of arms: unanimously approved

So, points 6, 8, 9 and 11 are dismissed, the rest are approved, and the resolution should be (note the change in what was point 5. No change in meaning was intended):




Thanks to everyine who has atended. We hope this will help to restore world's trust on the UN and its efforts for collective peace, though the practical results would determine that.

As the point 9 of the Gemeral Assembly vote has been dismissed, the UNSC should resolve the mess there (aas it seems their resolution intends to).

In reply to Germany (msg # 71):

Unfortunately, the Indian and Brazilian delegations were out partying too late and missed the vote.  Both countries voice their full support for the resolution as passed, and apologize for their absence.

In view of the recent events and the chaos produced by the unknown origin  jammers in orbit, Germany believes some control must be exercited to orbital objects.

In this goal, Germany proposes the creation of a UN agency dedicated to the control of orbital objects and to mediate any issues they may produce (let’s call it UNOCA, UN Orbital Control Agency).

The main goal of this agency should be a census of orbital objects and whom do they belong (to avoid opposition, its exact nature and mission would not necessarily be stated), to avoid the appearance of more unidentified objects (that should since now be considered hostile).

The secondary mission would be to mediate any dispute orbits could produce, and any accident this might produce.

The tertiary goal would be to help the withdrawal of any objects not in use, to help avoiding clogging orbit or accidents with them.

Any comments, supports oppositions or suggerences?

OOC:

Needless to say, it’s not my intent to begin bickering about those details in the game, just to assume they mediate them and, most important, to warn all players should more such unidentified objects appear in orbit (or identify the owner of any object acting suspiciously or hostile).

Japan says: Good idea, but let us work with existing framework and just extend their authority, therefore I say let these guys handle it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._Outer_Space_Affairs

OOC:

I didn't have the slightest idea of the existence of this Agency.

IC:

Sure. Then lest's give UNOOSA the task of keeping this census of orbital objects.

Just to make it clear, that does not mean anyone needs its autorization to deploy them, just that they must add them to the census, to make sure no one deplys again uncences objects with hostile intent, and to know whom do they belong in case there's a similar problema in the future.

Any uncensed object should be considered hostile.
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CNN NEWS

“It's been two hours now since we were informed that the President would be addressing the nation on a matter of national importance ‘never before equaled nor to equaled again’ as one white house insider put it.

We have not been able to find out from any source exactly what is going on, most have been tight lipped and a veil of secrecy has descended across Washington but we are being told the address will be any moment now.

What we do know so far is that the address is to be from the oval office, normally a setting reserved for solemn or grim events. We also know that the US delegation to the United Nations is currently meeting with the Secretary General and is requesting an emergency meeting of the General Assembly.

There have been hints that the US has discovered something to do with the jamming satellites that so recently wrought havoc here and across the world.

Sources have revealed to CNN that a flight was hastily chartered to the US from Nepal today - the flight landed at Vandenberg Air Force Base moments ago, which has since been locked down.

Some pundits are suggesting this might indicate some kind of operation within China by US special forces may have gone wrong and required them to extract, or may have resulted in them finding evidence of Chinese involvement that require them to evacuate.

The curr… I’m being told that Fox news are now reporting that they have information that there has been a formal declaration of war against China… Fox News stating all US military bases and installations have now been placed at DEFCON 2 status!

We have no confirmation but Fox is reporting that they have a source saying the US has uncovered evidence the Chinese were responsible for the jamming satellites… Wait, I’m being told white house sources have immediately denied this and insisting this is incorrect…

We’re now cutting from our coverage and going live to the oval office for an address by the President of the United states”

---------------------------Cut to oval office--------------------------

“it has been the tradition to begin any address to you as ‘fellow citizens’, or, ‘fellow Americans’. Today we break with tradition

My fellow Humans,

Since our race first looked to the heavens we have asked ourselves if we are alone in the galaxy - if we are the sole inheritor of a galaxy gifted to us by the creator, or if there might be others out there, imbued with the same spark of divine fire that resides in us.

Today, I can tell you that we are not alone in the universe.

The United States can confirm that it has encountered an alien life form which has been confirmed beyond doubt to be an Extraterrestrial intelligence.

This discovery is significant for all of us on planet earth for several reasons, and the United States commits now in front of the world to co-operate fully with all other nations in exploring the consequences of this and we commit to providing full access to the information we hold to the scientists of the world.

The prospect of contact with a non terrestrial intelligence has always been an inherently dangerous proposition, though the great thinkers of our time have spent decades considering this risk none have come close to preparing for the circumstances we find ourselves in

The sad truth is that this discovery has not come from the detection of a signal from another civilization, nor has it come in the form of a hand reaching out in friendship - it has come in the form of an attack against us.

Several days ago,  units of the US Marines were deployed into earth orbit to attempt to board, capture or destroy the unknown satellites that jammed all conventional communication networks. As these forces moved to board one of the objects the four others detonated in nuclear fire leaving no remains, whilst this single object moved to enter Earth’s atmosphere.

The marine team, aware of the threat this object could pose, immediately informed us of the flight path of the object before manually maneuvering the SLS Rocket which carried them into space to re-enter Earth's atmosphere and follow the UFO, which came down in the Nepalese mountains.

Upon landing the marine team found the debris of the crashed object. Approaching the crash these brave men encountered a creature emerging from the wreckage. The creature made to rush towards the team but before any member raised their gun to fire in self defense it dropped to the ground dead. The body of this creature was secured and recovered.

Our scientists are now working to determine anything they can about this creature.

Here, in this picture, you can see the remains of the creature, short, thickly built creatures, with 6 arms, furry heads and pink skin. The garment it wears is a manufactured fabric and most likely some kind of uniform.

These creatures, whoever they might be, have attacked us. In jamming global communications they attempted to use the mistrust that has grown between many of the nations on this planet as a weapon against us - they have attempted to use our own mistrust as a weapon - to have us obliterate ourselves.

Given the complexity of their electronic jamming we believe that they may have also used some means to convince the Chinese military it had detected a North Korean WMD launch, the response from China was no doubt intended to then spur all other nations to enter into a full nuclear exchange - a war of mutual destruction.

Thank god we have not, because the apparent intention of these creatures was to see us all die by our own hands.

Today, it is my sad duty to inform you that we are at war with an unknown alien species, creatures who can have no reason to fear us, or who could have any cause to hate us unless it is an unthinking one.

The cradle in which our species is developing has been threatened - we intend to ensure it is defended.

We will work with all nations to ensure that we can protect our planet - it will call for the development of a new type of fighting force but we must ensure that these creatures cannot cause direct harm to us

Above all we must ensure that they cannot attempt to turn us against one another for their own ends.

I appeal to all of you, no matter where you come from, no matter which faith you hold dear - we must stand together now in defense of our home - we must stand united in the defense of Earth.

In reply to USA (msg # 76):

OOC:

Aaaand now I have to retract that... (curse you Kelvin)

I'll be honest I guess I released this before I should - serves me right. (Trust no one suspect everyone)

IC:

Results of proper analysis reveal that this is a really, and I'm going to say really, really well done hoax

The US - red faced and increasingly angry and confused, reveals to the world the results of its immediate investigation - its a fake



The president makes a public apology - this occurs within one hour of the original broadcast

Pledges to find those who perpetrated this hoax and plunged the world nearly into war are offered.

The US to announces it will be conducting its own investigation into this separately from the announced UN investigation being chaired by Russia.
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Well, now that we know aliens were not behind it, NF supports German Suggestion about a UNOOSA controlled census of Orbital objects.

OOC:

Hello gentlemen,

I am a new player for Russia, and here I want to greet you all.
I am still gradually understanding all the details of the game, and I have not read all the topics yet, so if you need answers or reactions from Russia, please do not hesitate to remind about it to me. All previous treaties and contracts will be supported, and also I am open for new agreements.

OOC:

Welcome,
  Should be fun and interesting when we are rolling again fully.
on another note I will be in and out for the rest of this month into January..(Final preps for a large event I have the honor of hosting 1800 miles from where I live. It is taking a lot more time the closer it gets to go time. Fortunatly I have lots of cousins to delegate to that are in the area. Then I get to go and set up run the event and break it down after.  )

Shouldn't be good to have an OOC thread for the posts like those?

In reply to Germany (msg # 81):

We have noted, with growing concern, the roll that some corporations are currently taking on as Quasi-state entities - the possibility of setting up off world out of any governmental oversight or regulation should be a concern.

We must establish the preeminence of the Nation state above the corporate entity.

The USA would therefor like to propose that the nations of the world come together and agree an international treaty that would prevent corporations forming their own nations or settlements

In essence - I'm proposing we prevent the spread of non state NPC settlements and trying to limit the growth of non state NPCs in game terms - particularly in their military growth (since some corporations now have what amounts to their own army)

There are several ways this could be done - signatories making it illegal for their citizens to deal with companies who are or who deal with companies that operate outside of international laws/oversight, or something similar - that I can leave to bureaucrats in game.

Do players agree with the in game idea though, of preventing non state NPCs from setting up settlements?

Germany aplauds this initiative to limit the powers of private companies, but we're afraid this goal can be easily corrupted.

Does that mean that a corporation must first "adquire" a country to be able to develop its own settlements?

We're sure some could, either militarly or economically do it (and in not few cases the people of the target country may even improve their living conditions on it).

Right now there are already zones where corporations are more powerful tan the staes by using PMCs as their armies (INI in Cyrinaica, Tata group in Suez...)

If we want to limit their power, other steps must be taken:

• to avoid the existence of failing states that can be economically taken by them, and that means improving the living conditions in most of the world.
• to stabilize the wost spots of the world
• to avoid fiscal paradises, where the companies may covertly rule the countries
• to call the PMCs as they are: merecenaries, and so forbid them.

In German's opinion, this last point is critical. Military forces must be state owned and controled and formed (at least mostly) by the contries own nationals (if a country wants to have a small part formed by others, as the French Légion Étrangère or the Spanish Legión, that's fine, but only as small parts). Otherwise, the companies would son be more powerful than states, even military.

When Germany claimed against PMCs (morsly naval ones) being allowed to freely act, we were left alone, now you seem to see its danger, and Germany will beglad to help forbiding them as mercenary companies (or privaters in the sea.

Greetings,

As the official envoy of the Republik of Indonesia to the UN, I am informing my fellow ambassadors that Indonesia intends to support all efforts towards the promotion of international peace and  stability. We wholeheartedly endorse the motion put forward by the ambassador of the USA to suppress the use of military force by any non state actors. The primacy of the nation state in military affairs must be upheld.

We further concur with the German ambassador that the international community must be proactive in limiting the possibility of corporate entities side stepping the spirit of any such resolution through firm measures including the seizure of companies that attempt to circumvent these prohibitions.

Rizq Widiyati
Ambassador RI

[OOC: Hi  everyone. Are there any relationships between Indonesia and other PC/NPC states that I should know about? Same with regards to the Nordic Federation]

OOC: Welcome to the game - from what I remember you are a member of the Crystal Palace group along with several others including the Germany, France, UK, Russia, Japan and india - I think thats it but there may be more?

Other than that you are also a member of PROTO (Pacific Rim and Oceania Treaty Organisation) - which is a NATO like defensive alliance in the Oceania and Pacific rim area, led by Russia and including Korea, Australia, India and some others

Hope that helps - you should find a fair bit of information and historical info in the private messages associated to the country - just go into private messages up in the top right hand corner

If you need anything else feel free to post in the Gallery - which is good for OOC and off topic stuff!

Russia supports this proposal.
I have some consideration on this, but I would like you to point out, what exact threats exist in the possibility that an independent corporation could establish its own colony?

THat's a good question. For now, see that private hands have lots of launching capacity, and even two orbital stations.

See that also we have a state (Haiti) that is being rules by corporations, becoming a Corporate state (to the advantage of its dwellers, as their living status has improvedand, and to the shame of International Community at large, that have failed to help them).

Add those factors, mix it with more corporations having true military units as security forces, and you may wonder what the "thread" (or possibility, as it can be called too) is.