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International Forums.

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Referee
GM, 68 posts
Sun 18 Aug 2013
at 15:23
  • msg #1

International Forums

Post any public discussions, debate, resolutions, or proposals here.  This doesn't necessarily represent the UN General Assembly (but the UNGC is considered the default international forum...if necessary identify where you are taking things at the start of your post like so /UNSC/).

If you want to bring something up to a vote, I don't really think most players are interested in playing a game of International Law and Legal Research so what you want out of the proposal can be spelled out in plain language and considered to apply as commonly interpreted.

And also noting that nation-states are ultimately sovereign and may ignore any passed proposal short of the application of some sort of coercive force (economic\military).  In this world even Maritime Law is a weaker international institution at this point in time.

In the case of the UNSC anyone may make a proposal for simplicity's sake, and once all the permanent members have voted (Yes, No, Abstain) the issue is closed.  Other states may register their vote (and show the flag on an issue) if desired.
Germany
player, 31 posts
Tue 20 Aug 2013
at 06:48
  • msg #2

Re: International Forums

The world is facing a crisis on unforeseen consequences as major powers seem to risk a war no one may know how can end. Germany has been dragged to it, but (perhaps being somewhat naive) still believes a diplomatic solution to be possible.

Once more, the abuse of the veto power by some of the P5 has stalled any UNSC resolution that could help to this, forcing NATO and Russia to act by thier own to protect the civilian populations in the area.

So, in face of the high danger the present crisis represents for the whole world peace and population, Germany invokes General Assembly Resolution 377 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U...embly_Resolution_377) and asks for an Emergency Special Session to urgently discuss the issue and try to put down the tension in the zone. Germany asks other countries arround the world that believe this diplomatic compromise to be possible to join in this request.

Meanwhile, Germany will keep its compromises and its assets are in the zone to enforce the Russian/NATO/Saudi declared no-fly zone.

OOC: I don't want this to bog down the turn resolution, and I expect this to be handled simultaneously with the turn going ahead, as all too often happens to the UN actions.
Germany
player, 37 posts
Thu 1 May 2014
at 07:21
  • msg #3

Re: International Forums

Extract from a speech form the German Ambassador to the UN:

After the launch of ESASS Freude, the first true spaceship, and with all probability more that will be launched in near future, it could be prudent to develop legislation about it before problems arise.

It would be good, for once, to act on a proactive way instead of complaining latter for the lack of this legislation and have to make ad hoc adaptations. Until there is a proper legislation, ESA will use the international laws of the sea, adapting them to space as needed and as well as we can.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:22, Thu 01 May 2014.
Germany
player, 79 posts
Sat 26 Jul 2014
at 08:54
  • msg #4

Re: International Forums

Germany asks for an emegrency meeting of the UNSC to discuss the situation in the Middle East.

Things to be discussed (in order of urgency):

  1. Iran situatin: goal: to take the responsables for MDW using and attack o the Chinese, apparently with the goal to provoke a general war before the IPC, using whatever means are deemed necessary, while avoiding civilian casualtites.
  2. Caliphate/Iraq situation: goal: to support Iraq government and condemn ISIS killing and Human Rights breaks
  3. Iran/kurd situation: goal: to sponsor a referendum for independence in Iranin Kurdistan
  4. Turkey/Kurd situation: goal: to sponsor talks among them (and any arbiter they accept) to resolve once and for all the situation there.

Points 1 and 2 should be voted ASAP, other points as talks advance
This message was last edited by the player at 08:55, Sat 26 July 2014.
UK
player, 30 posts
Sat 26 Jul 2014
at 09:48
  • msg #5

Re: International Forums

Germany:
Germany asks for an emegrency meeting of the UNSC to discuss the situation in the Middle East.

Things to be discussed (in order of urgency):

  1. Iran situatin: goal: to take the responsables for MDW using and attack o the Chinese, apparently with the goal to provoke a general war before the IPC, using whatever means are deemed necessary, while avoiding civilian casualtites.
  2. Caliphate/Iraq situation: goal: to support Iraq government and condemn ISIS killing and Human Rights breaks
  3. Iran/kurd situation: goal: to sponsor a referendum for independence in Iranin Kurdistan
  4. Turkey/Kurd situation: goal: to sponsor talks among them (and any arbiter they accept) to resolve once and for all the situation there.

Points 1 and 2 should be voted ASAP, other points as talks advance


Agreed - UK submits a Proposal to the UNSC along the following line (after the last time round I think its probably best we keep UN stuff short and punchy, so just the highlights)

Resolution on Iran

1 - UNSC authorizes the deployment of forces under the auspices of the UN to compel Iran to surrender its stockpiles of WMDs
2 - This force is further authorized to compel Iran to surrender those responsible for the use of WMDs to the international courts to be tried as war criminals
3 - Recommends that the UN conduct and monitor a referendum on independence from Iran.

Resolution on Unrest in the Middle East:
1 - Requests member nations supply assistance to Iraq and other states to combat the rise in religious extremist militia
2 - Authorizes the deployment of UN peacekeepers to areas as requested by the Governments of the middle east to combat these rebel militias.
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What does everyone think - Andreas are the US and France cool with this?
Japan
GM, 27 posts
Sat 26 Jul 2014
at 22:05
  • msg #6

Re: International Forums

UK:
What does everyone think - Andreas are the US and France cool with this?

GM says:
On USA: check with James, if he does not respond before 27 July, 2200 UTC, USA will follow UKs lead on this.
On France: France will not veto any of this but will not vote yes either.
I decree that unless someone vetoes it, it will pass.
China
player, 7 posts
Sun 27 Jul 2014
at 13:57
  • msg #7

Re: International Forums

UK:
Germany:
Germany asks for an emegrency meeting of the UNSC to discuss the situation in the Middle East.

Things to be discussed (in order of urgency):

  1. Iran situatin: goal: to take the responsables for MDW using and attack o the Chinese, apparently with the goal to provoke a general war before the IPC, using whatever means are deemed necessary, while avoiding civilian casualtites.
  2. Caliphate/Iraq situation: goal: to support Iraq government and condemn ISIS killing and Human Rights breaks
  3. Iran/kurd situation: goal: to sponsor a referendum for independence in Iranin Kurdistan
  4. Turkey/Kurd situation: goal: to sponsor talks among them (and any arbiter they accept) to resolve once and for all the situation there.

Points 1 and 2 should be voted ASAP, other points as talks advance


Agreed - UK submits a Proposal to the UNSC along the following line (after the last time round I think its probably best we keep UN stuff short and punchy, so just the highlights)

Resolution on Iran

1 - UNSC authorizes the deployment of forces under the auspices of the UN to compel Iran to surrender its stockpiles of WMDs
AGEED-Note this is already authorised under a previous UNSC Mandate

2 - This force is further authorized to compel Iran to surrender those responsible for the use of WMDs to the international courts to be tried as war criminals
AGREED.

3 - Recommends that the UN conduct and monitor a referendum on independence from Iran.
AGREED While its on the table do the Balochistan independance referendum as well to prevent another blow up in this region..

Resolution on Unrest in the Middle East:
1 - Requests member nations supply assistance to Iraq and other states to combat the rise in religious extremist militia.
AGREED  Note Chinese expiditionary forces are not in a condition to assist but China can provide observers and humanitarian aid.
2 - Authorizes the deployment of UN peacekeepers to areas as requested by the Governments of the middle east to combat these rebel militias.
AGREED Note Chinese expiditionary forces are not in a condition to assist but China can provide observers and humanitarian aid.

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Japan
GM, 30 posts
Sun 10 Aug 2014
at 12:07
  • msg #8

Re: International Forums

In reply to China (msg # 7):

GM says: Since noone vetoed this Resolution, it passed.

UN asks the UK to coordinate this effort.
UK
player, 39 posts
Mon 11 Aug 2014
at 13:45
  • msg #9

Re: International Forums

In reply to Japan (msg # 8):

There are currently forces from the US, UK, France, Germany and Russia in the region who are in a position to enforce this UN mandate - are there forces any other nation wish to commit to this UN action, and is anyone willing to contribute non militarily to this mission in Iran

Seconly - are any states covered by the second resolution in need of support from UN forces?
Germany
player, 94 posts
Mon 11 Aug 2014
at 14:20
  • msg #10

Re: International Forums

In reply to UK (msg # 9):

You forgot Poland among the nations helping in Kurdistan
Saudi Arabia
player, 4 posts
Mon 11 Aug 2014
at 14:26
  • msg #11

Re: International Forums

UK:
Seconly - are any states covered by the second resolution in need of support from UN forces?


Understanding you're asking about the Caliphate, is Saudi opinión that NATO forces better stay out if posible, as, even if Iraquí government wellcomes them, we guess most population won't.

As said before, though, any intelligence (mostly satellite) will be wellcome, but this aside, we believe that will be better handled by a muslim coalition if you don't want it to be seen as a Crusade.
Japan
GM, 33 posts
Mon 11 Aug 2014
at 15:35
  • msg #12

Re: International Forums

UK:
In reply to Japan (msg # 8):

There are currently forces from the US, UK, France, Germany and Russia in the region who are in a position to enforce this UN mandate - are there forces any other nation wish to commit to this UN action, and is anyone willing to contribute non militarily to this mission in Iran

Seconly - are any states covered by the second resolution in need of support from UN forces?

GM says: No new countries are willing to participate militarily. Non-militarily a whole bunch say they are willing to commit but don´t leave any specifics yet...

Any particular country you are thinking of? Otherwise Check out the newssection;
https://sites.google.com/site/...2029#TOC-Middle-East:-

The Syrian govt welcomes the resolution and asks for UN support in fighting the extremist ISIS militia.
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