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Historical Interval 2030-2034.

Posted by GM AndreasFor group 0
GM Andreas
Fri 5 Sep 2014
at 09:48
  • msg #1

Historical Interval 2030-2034

We are now at 2030.

After over 2 years, from June 2012-September 2014, we have now completed the 2025-2029 turn! It was slow and painful and then it was fast and quite a rollercoaster ride. we have had some issues with forgetfulness, rule conflict, lack of communication, loss of data etc. But we made it. Thank you everyone, especially Kelvin.

Now we look ahead.

1) Check your country/countries. Make sure everything is in order. Especially where your troops are. Update your country pages. If you have any questions let me know.

2) Reread the 2025 news section and the 2030 news section so you know what is going on and that you allocate PAs etc to what needs taken care of.

3) Please contribute to NPC actions, stories, news etc.

4) Schedule for 2030 turn.
sep 5:  END 2025 TURN. Me & Kelvin set about editing new budgets for old and new PCs
sep 12: Player receive budgets
sep 17: Player send in budget and actions
sep 24: Last news article up by GM
sep 30: Player deadline for response
okt 7: Last followup by GM
okt 19: END TURN

I anticipate at least 1 war. The war(s) will be handled as abstractly/easily as possible. Kelvin is hard at work on the rules making them better.

5) I am sure I am forgetting something but now we are on our way!
GM Andreas
Fri 5 Sep 2014
at 09:50
  • msg #2

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

I would like you, the player, to briefly look over 1-2 of the NPC countries, corporations or NGOs and make up a few actions and a little story for the 2030 round.


Example 1: South Africa 2030-34
After the failure in the Zimbabwe conflict SA is The newly elected president is taking a new direction:
A) leasing out the newly built DenelSaab RSA-4 rockets SANSA Space launch capability expanding the space economic sector
B) Expanding SASOL-Eskom Coal Gasification
C) Reducing oiluse
D) Armed forces restructure (rank 4->3) and upgrade (tech mil ground to 7,8).
E) Liberate restrictive policies (Decrease Authority modifier from 27% to 26%)
F) Increase stability


Example 2: Somalia 2030-34
The German military and civilian/economic support to the government is fast stabilising Somalia and diminishing piracy. After the election in 2025 (the first since 1967) there have been a ineffective but surprisingly stable coalition of moderate Islamist party, federalists and regional parties, and pro-western parties. While terrorism and crime is high, the government has ousted the different insurgents and the many development projects are paying off. Starvation while still high, is much lower than before and on levels comparable with the other countries in the region, thanks to agricultural projects and the return to sea for the somali fishermen. Wind energy and stability is giving the economy a boost.

Mil rank 4, tech 6.0
1 bde experienced motor inf (security)
5 bde reserve armor (bought from Turkey)
Germany
player, 116 posts
Fri 5 Sep 2014
at 14:24
  • msg #3

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Some questions:

Can we asume all the Combat Damaged units are returned to full power at the begining of th turn (off course, with the pertinent SU cost)?

I understand the comercial Space assets are for renting for whoever need them, and aside from the ones players have. Am I right on this?

GM Andreas:
I would like you, the player, to briefly look over 1-2 of the NPC countries, corporations or NGOs and make up a few actions and a little story for the 2030 round.


I'm not sure what do you mean here: are you asking each of us to do this in 1-2 countries?

If so, will you assign us the countries to avoid mix-ups?

Probably more to come as I think more on it...
GM Andreas
Fri 5 Sep 2014
at 18:41
  • msg #4

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Germany:
Can we asume all the Combat Damaged units are returned to full power at the begining of th turn (off course, with the pertinent SU cost)?

Yes
Germany:
I understand the comercial Space assets are for renting for whoever need them, and aside from the ones players have. Am I right on this?

Yes
Germany:
I'm not sure what do you mean here: are you asking each of us to do this in 1-2 countries?

Yes, if you feel you want to and have the time. It is voluntary.
Germany:
If so, will you assign us the countries to avoid mix-ups?

If you wish, or just choose one yourself. First come first served. Let me and the players know (by posting here) which one you picked to avoid mix-ups.
Germany
player, 117 posts
Sat 6 Sep 2014
at 07:56
  • msg #5

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

In reply to GM Andreas (msg # 4):

Is Sol_earth spreadsheet to be actualized or we should use 20140521 for relations/stability/prestige/etc. for 2030-34 turn?
GM Andreas
Sat 6 Sep 2014
at 13:57
  • msg #6

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Germany:
In reply to GM Andreas (msg # 4):

Is Sol_earth spreadsheet to be actualized or we should use 20140521 for relations/stability/prestige/etc. for 2030-34 turn?

New on the way.
GMDirector
GM, 1 post
Mon 8 Sep 2014
at 13:46
  • msg #7

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

In reply to GM Andreas (msg # 6):
Test
"GMDirector" is the new GM signature. In the event of a GM change, the new GM will just take over this account. Mind you, I intend to stay for a while.../Andreas

EDIT: Nope that didn´t work. The tag will be Referee, same as before (except for when I forget). I have deleted the Iran character and you can direct any email to Japan or Referee.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:15, Tue 09 Sept 2014.
Referee
NPC, 75 posts
Sat 29 Nov 2014
at 23:16
  • msg #8

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

In reply to GMDirector (msg # 7):

ok, so the budgets have been emailed out.

Here is some general info:
-Update your Military lists to reflect current deployment (to the Middle East and elsewhere) for proper calculation of extra SU needed.
-The world Oil supply was short even before the mess in the Middle East started and the trend is worsening.
-James has dropped out. USA will be played by Liam (at least for this turn).

Individual emails will follow, but don´t wait for it, get started.

Deadline for turning in budgets and turnorders are in 10 days on december 9, 1300 hours UTC.

If you have turn or country specific questions please email me, for secret rules questions email Kelvin. For general questions please use the forum: http://tgw.awbep.com/xmb/
Combat Cycle Ref
GM, 51 posts
Thu 13 Aug 2015
at 06:24
  • msg #9

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Good morning! Summer vacation is over, for me at least, time to get back to some serious play!

Hrumm, let us see how much I remember....

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The situation with the insurgency in Azerbaijan is bad, but quick Russian action to arrest leaders, seize weapons, pressure local authorities to do their job, etc have done much to quell the size of the insurgency and keep order. Your intelligence agencies estimate that there are about 8 brigades worth of Reserve Quality infantry and 1 brigade of Experienced Quality Motorized (a defecting government unit). This is still enough to seriously disrupt supplies going to NATO forces fighting the Islamic Caliphate. Hardly cut off, but enough to make combat operations difficult.

The Islamic Caliphate is holding on, you intelligence agencies estimate that they have approximately
3 Green Motorized Brigades (ex-Syrian and Iraqi units)
11 Reserve Infantry Brigades (Stealth Ability, various militia)   
2 Green SAM Brigades (ex-Syrian and Iraqi units)
3 Green Infantry Brigades (ex-Syrian and Iraqi units)       
The ICs real force is in its global network of fanatical supporters and the WMDs (chemical, so far) it gives them.

Egypt is mostly limping along but things could also break down completely at any moment. If you are going to do something to influence what is going on there now would be an excellent time to start.

The Syrians are lately not doing a good job of communications security, probably too much else on their mind, the internet is rife with rumors and video clips of panicked meetings&communications between Syria and Russia.
Combat Cycle Ref
GM, 55 posts
Fri 28 Aug 2015
at 04:51
  • msg #10

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

I have waited long enough and given them plenty of chances but it is time to declare that Chris, Max and Richard have withdrawn from the game. Israel, Iran, Argentina and the Nordic Federation will be run by me, the Combat Cycle Ref, until a new player can be found for them. Fortunately Chris at least did leave with some orders for the immediate future and I will be holding true to them. Liam, I hope you will continue running the USA for the foreseeable future.

We have enough people to finish off the Turn but it is definitely time to start canvassing your gamer friends for new players. Invite them to look at what we are achieving right now. The beginning of next Turn would be an excellent time for a new comer to formally start.

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The Islamic Caliphate continues its global campaign of terror against basically the entire world. Suicide bombings, shootings by 'lone wolf' gunman, attacks with small homemade or stolen Syrian chemical weapons, destruction of cultural artifacts , etc continue. Israel has ordered a full mobilization to deal with the threats. The panic in Syria is the ruling class apparently convinced that this means an invasion by Israel to destroy the Syria government, Israel's biggest rival, is imminent and many are clamoring to escape to Russia. The Israeli government has reiterated that it will not rule out any action necessary to defend Israel.

India and Russia have declared that they are enforcing an embargo of Iran over its continued foot dragging, the Iranians say 'internal differences' and that 'progress has been made', in handing over its WMDs and full compliance with the peace terms as dictated by India over the ME2028 conflict.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:52, Fri 28 Aug 2015.
Referee
GM, 77 posts
Tue 1 Sep 2015
at 05:25
  • msg #11

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Combat Cycle Ref:
time to declare that Chris, Max and Richard have withdrawn from the game.

I will send a last email and if no response comes forth before tomorrow morning 2015nov02 0900 UTC these changes go into effect./Andreas
Germany
player, 125 posts
Tue 1 Sep 2015
at 10:35
  • msg #12

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Referee:
Combat Cycle Ref:
time to declare that Chris, Max and Richard have withdrawn from the game.

I will send a last email and if no response comes forth before tomorrow morning 2015nov02 0900 UTC these changes go into effect./Andreas


November or September?
Referee
GM, 78 posts
Tue 1 Sep 2015
at 20:26
  • msg #13

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Germany:
Referee:
Combat Cycle Ref:
time to declare that Chris, Max and Richard have withdrawn from the game.

I will send a last email and if no response comes forth before tomorrow morning 2015nov02 0900 UTC these changes go into effect./Andreas


November or September?

Crap. September ofcourse. Crap.
Referee
GM, 79 posts
Wed 2 Sep 2015
at 09:11
  • msg #14

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Referee:
Combat Cycle Ref:
time to declare that Chris, Max and Richard have withdrawn from the game.

I will send a last email and if no response comes forth before tomorrow morning 2015nov02 0900 UTC these changes go into effect./Andreas

Max and Richard have not responded so are out.
I am taking over for Chris the rest of this turn although he may rejoin us at a later date for subsequent turns.
/Andreas, GM
Referee
GM, 80 posts
Wed 2 Sep 2015
at 09:22
  • msg #15

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

I will take over and run Israel, Iran and also run Azerbaijan (+rebels) and Georgia.
Lluis can you retake Nordic Federation?
Liam please confirm that you will keep USA.
I think we can leave Argentine for now.

Kelvin will keep running things as before atleast for the end of this turn.
Kelvin for clarity´s sake would you please state what you need the players to do to get things resolved?
/Andreas, GM
Referee
GM, 81 posts
Wed 2 Sep 2015
at 09:41
  • msg #16

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

In reply to Referee (msg # 15):

Israel:
1) declare war on The Caliphate/Islamic State/ISIS.
2) openly support a Kurdish State politically and with massive logistical and military support, including air and ground troops on Kurd controlled land to fight ISIS.
3) military units bomb ISIS and invade ISIS controlled territory in Syria. Not Assad held territory.
4) ease up on Palestinian territory sanctions and blockades and triple all civilian aid (medical supplies, education etc).
5) answer attacks from palestinian areas as harshly as ever.
6) Informally make clear that if Palestinian attacks increase during the ISIS war, the entire Palestinian territory will be bulldozed and the population evicted into the Sinai or elsewhere.
7) informs allies after the fact. No more discussions.
/Andreas, as Israel
Japan
GM, 51 posts
Thu 3 Sep 2015
at 07:56
  • msg #17

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Referee:
In reply to Referee (msg # 15):

Israel:
1) declare war on The Caliphate/Islamic State/ISIS.
2) openly support a Kurdish State politically and with massive logistical and military support, including air and ground troops on Kurd controlled land to fight ISIS.
3) military units bomb ISIS and invade ISIS controlled territory in Syria. Not Assad held territory.
4) ease up on Palestinian territory sanctions and blockades and triple all civilian aid (medical supplies, education etc).
5) answer attacks from palestinian areas as harshly as ever.
6) Informally make clear that if Palestinian attacks increase during the ISIS war, the entire Palestinian territory will be bulldozed and the population evicted into the Sinai or elsewhere.
7) informs allies after the fact. No more discussions.
/Andreas, as Israel

From Israels ambassador: Dear Germany and other allies, the above is happening as we speak (except 6, yet...). We understand you have issues. Israel is listening but the tanks have crossed into Syria. We need to stop IC. Why should Israel turn back?
/Andreas, Israel

GM Andreas says:
Israel had done several similar exercises and maneuvers before and stopped short of the border, now they rolled across it, catching everyone by surprise. Lluis: Kelvin and I have thought about your arguments and decided the attack stands as a surprise. Let us accept that successful surprise attacks occur despite massive intelligence efforts and move on.

I may have been unclear before: The presentation of Israels 7 point plan was by Andreas playing Israel, not GM Andreas. The CombatCycleRef Kelvin will still handle the combat.
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:02, Thu 03 Sept 2015.
Germany
player, 126 posts
Thu 3 Sep 2015
at 11:10
  • msg #18

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Japan:
I may have been unclear before: The presentation of Israels 7 point plan was by Andreas playing Israel, not GM Andreas. The CombatCycleRef Kelvin will still handle the combat.


I understood that were Israeli ordersn ,not GM's

Japan:
Referee:
In reply to Referee (msg # 15):

Israel:
1) declare war on The Caliphate/Islamic State/ISIS.
2) openly support a Kurdish State politically and with massive logistical and military support, including air and ground troops on Kurd controlled land to fight ISIS.
3) military units bomb ISIS and invade ISIS controlled territory in Syria. Not Assad held territory.
4) ease up on Palestinian territory sanctions and blockades and triple all civilian aid (medical supplies, education etc).
5) answer attacks from palestinian areas as harshly as ever.
6) Informally make clear that if Palestinian attacks increase during the ISIS war, the entire Palestinian territory will be bulldozed and the population evicted into the Sinai or elsewhere.
7) informs allies after the fact. No more discussions.
/Andreas, as Israel

From Israels ambassador: Dear Germany and other allies, the above is happening as we speak (except 6, yet...). We understand you have issues. Israel is listening but the tanks have crossed into Syria. We need to stop IC. Why should Israel turn back?
/Andreas, Israel

GM Andreas says:
Israel had done several similar exercises and maneuvers before and stopped short of the border, now they rolled across it, catching everyone by surprise. Lluis: Kelvin and I have thought about your arguments and decided the attack stands as a surprise. Let us accept that successful surprise attacks occur despite massive intelligence efforts and move on.


This seems to be depicted as if Israel lauches its surprise attack while all the rest are still in their assembly areas/jumping points waiting for the jump in orders, while there have been fight in the zone for some time already.

As I understand it, IC has been for some months under air interdiction by the NFZ keepers (mostly Germany, UK and US, as I understood Russia and Saudis keep it over Iran). Also as I understand it, NFZ means that any non biological flying it without proper IFF or clearence is called "target".

As I don't believe Israel would launch such an opperation without air power support, where would all that lead?

Most likely outcome, IMHO:

quote:
Flight leader: Command, we detect large numbers of intruders entering the NFZ. Negative IFF, repeat, negative IFF!
Command: Flight leader, stand by. To unidentified airplanes: You are entering a NFZ. You're warned to turn arround or be seen as hostiles.
Flight leader: They keep advancing, Command.
Command: Reserve units: Scramble. Keeping units: engage
Flight leader. Roger, command. Tally-ho
...


Edited for typos and adding dome details to the drama.
This message was last edited by the player at 11:42, Thu 03 Sept 2015.
Japan
GM, 52 posts
Thu 3 Sep 2015
at 11:49
  • msg #19

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Germany:
As I don't believe Israel would launch such an opperation without air power support, where would all that lead?


From Israel Ambassador:
Dear Germany, thank you for your concern. Israel is well aware of the situation in Syria and Islamic Caliphate occupied territory. As you will note now our tanks are rolling forward and clearing out IC insurgensies. As to airsupport, we thank NATO for clearing the skies some time ago. As you note Israeli groundtroops and the close air support units, mainly helicopters and UAVs at this time, stay close to the groundtroops and the pilots convey their whereabouts and identity at all time, to NATO so there is no risk of mistaken identity. Because we don´t think NATO and the Germans in particular would not knowingly shoot at Israeli forces fighting a common enemy. Right?

And don´t worry that we (so far) have only limited air support. As we are operating close to the Israeli-Syria border (In hex I21), our competent artillery, based in Israel, support the advance quite well enough.

But you have a point. Israel hereby officially demand that NFZ forces don´t engage Israel airforces on missions against IC over IC occupied territory.
/Andreas, as Israel
This message was last edited by the GM at 11:51, Thu 03 Sept 2015.
China
player, 8 posts
Thu 3 Sep 2015
at 12:44
  • msg #20

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

In reply to Japan (msg # 19):

OOC INFO ONLY (note for those players tat do not realize Isreal is and has been a Major Non-Nato Ally for many years and has had access to NATO IFF and is shown on NATO IFF as Blue since 1989 .. previous to that they showed green on NATO IFF ..Never has Isreal shown Grey or RED on NATO IFF SAME applies to the EU howver individual nations in the EU may have considered Isreal enemies at one point or another (Turkey Germany,Austria,and the Balkans come to mind)
Germany
player, 127 posts
Thu 3 Sep 2015
at 12:52
  • msg #21

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

China:
In reply to Japan (msg # 19):

OOC INFO ONLY (note for those players tat do not realize Isreal is and has been a Major Non-Nato Ally for many years and has had access to NATO IFF and is shown on NATO IFF as Blue since 1989 .. previous to that they showed green on NATO IFF ..Never has Isreal shown Grey or RED on NATO IFF SAME applies to the EU howver individual nations in the EU may have considered Isreal enemies at one point or another (Turkey Germany,Austria,and the Balkans come to mind)


I guess we're (at least to some extent, not so many details) aware of this, but while the crisis in 1990-91 (Desert Shield/Storm) it was said Israel air units were denied the coalition IFFs to avoid them to go hawkish, as this move could deestabilize the hard-worked coalition the US have achieved.

Sounds familiar?
Referee
GM, 82 posts
Thu 3 Sep 2015
at 18:13
  • msg #22

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Germany:
aware of this, but while the crisis in 1990-91 (Desert Shield/Storm) it was said Israel air units were denied the coalition IFFs to avoid them to go hawkish, as this move could deestabilize the hard-worked coalition the US have achieved.

Sounds familiar?

GM Andreas says: The IFF status of Israel in this Op is your call Lluis.
Saudi Arabia
player, 17 posts
Thu 3 Sep 2015
at 18:25
  • msg #23

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Saudi Arabia cannot tolerate that the state of Israel profits from the situation to (once more) begin aggression to his neighbours, turning what should be a UN sponsored operation against a rogue terrorist group that dessacrates holy places to an anti-Islam crusade.

So, effective immediately, Saudi Arabia stops any offensive opperation whose only result seems to be the agrandizement of the Sionist state until its troops withraw to their borders. If so, we will make our best to garantee them and to avoid Israel is damaged by the heretic fanatics, something harder to accomplish the further they keep in their aggression against their neighbours.

If Israel keeps in their aggresive attitude, Saudi Arabia offers all its support to Jordan, Syria or Lebanon to reppeal any aggression.

Likewise, we ask the rest of Coalition members not to allow Israel to pollute the sense of this fighting with their aggression.

EDIT (Addition): Saudi Arabia calls for a USC meeting to treat this aggressoin not only against Israel neighbours, but also against the UN coalition fighting against Islamic Calipahte.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:44, Thu 03 Sept 2015.
Germany
player, 128 posts
Thu 3 Sep 2015
at 18:26
  • msg #24

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Referee:
Germany:
aware of this, but while the crisis in 1990-91 (Desert Shield/Storm) it was said Israel air units were denied the coalition IFFs to avoid them to go hawkish, as this move could deestabilize the hard-worked coalition the US have achieved.

Sounds familiar?

GM Andreas says: The IFF status of Israel in this Op is your call Lluis.


Then Israel has been dennied the Coalition IFF to avoid they become hawkish and destroy the coalition (as it's said to have been done in 1990-91).
UK
player, 50 posts
Thu 3 Sep 2015
at 23:09
  • msg #25

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Germany:
Israel has been dennied the Coalition IFF to avoid they become hawkish and destroy the coalition (as it's said to have been done in 1990-91).


US and UK both agree with this action
Germany
player, 129 posts
Fri 4 Sep 2015
at 11:56
  • msg #26

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Just to put my own ideas clear after so much time, a review of the situation in Middle East (please, fix me where I'm wrong):

At the end of last turn:

  • Iran has been defeated and accorded (with India mediation) to dismantle their MDWs. The NFZ is kept (msotly by Saudis and Russians) until this is dona, and India sent observers. China has withrawn from the zone. Infighting among the various Irani factions for the power.
  • East Kurdistan (former Irani and Iraquí) de facto independent. NATO and Russian  troops (those later are the ones that went thre through Georgia) there. Russian troops going there through Azerbaijan stalled agains a revolt. Some German troops trying to help in both Georgia and Azerbaijan, with negligible (if any) results in this last country.
  • Western (Turkish) Kurdistan in insurgency. French troops trying to conduct peacekeeping opperations, with limited results at best.
  • Caliphate attacked from various fronts. NFZ over it kept mostly by German, UK and US air units.
    • Saudi troops retreating to Saudi Arabia to lick wounds.
    • Russian troops attacking them from East Kurdistan and Syria, along with Syrian regular army.
    • NATO troops attacking from Jordan and East Kurdistan.
    • Peshmergas and Iraquis staying on defensive stance.


At the begining of this turn:

  • Georgia, while rumbling about it, keeps allowing free way to UN flagged (NATO and Russian) troops and supplies.
  • Revolt in Azerbaijan. Russian and German troops trying to put it down while supporting Azerbaijani government (at least they pretend to).
  • Conflict starts aain in Nagorno-Karabakh as Azerbaijan seems to take profit of the chaos to retake it.
  • French troops in Western Kurdistan pledged to help Turkish troops to keep it.
  • After being attacked with MDWs, Israel launches surprise attack throug Syria. Even with US and Russian troops in the zone (those attacking from Jordan and Tarsus), I assume oppreations have somewhat bog down and that allows the high tempo attack from Israel to achieve surprise.
  • Saudi Army was advancing to retake offensive opperations against the Caliphate when the Israeli attack suprises everyone. They stop advance before reaching contact and take defensive stance.


Something wrong or forgotten?
This message was last edited by the player at 12:01, Fri 04 Sept 2015.
Referee
GM, 83 posts
Fri 4 Sep 2015
at 12:41
  • msg #27

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Germany:
Russian troops going there through Azerbaijan stalled agains a revolt. Some German troops trying to help in both Georgia and Azerbaijan, with negligible (if any) results in this last country.

GM Andreas says: It is the Azerbaijan government that don´t want the Russian troops. They say it is just the first step of Russian occupation.

Germany:
At the begining of this turn:
[*] Revolt in Azerbaijan. Russian and German troops trying to put it down while supporting Azerbaijani government (at least they pretend to).
[*] Conflict starts aain in Nagorno-Karabakh as Azerbaijan seems to take profit of the chaos to retake it.

GM Andreas says: The Azerbaijan government order the army to fight the Russians. So these are regular Azerbaijan army fighting te Russians not some rebel forces. The Azerbaijan govt say Armenian rebels in Nagorno Karabakh are acting more aggresive and so the Azerbaijan army moved in to take them out and retake the occupied province.
What do you say, Kelvin?
Israel
player, 1 post
Fri 4 Sep 2015
at 13:51
  • msg #28

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Saudi Arabia:
its troops withraw to their borders. If so, we will make our best to garantee them and to avoid Israel is damaged by the heretic fanatics

From Israel: IC attacked Israel with WMDs and Israel set forth to make sure that never happens again. After our swift attack on IC forces occupying territory formerly of Syrian domain, we have been blessed with assurances for our safety from all over the world, from USA to Saudi. Israel is reasonable and will withdraw our troops to inside Israels borders. However if any attack on Israel occurs despite our friends guarantees, we may start to doubt their sincerity or competence...

OOC: Well, that was quick and painful... :)
Germany
player, 130 posts
Fri 4 Sep 2015
at 21:34
  • msg #29

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Referee:
Germany:
Russian troops going there through Azerbaijan stalled agains a revolt. Some German troops trying to help in both Georgia and Azerbaijan, with negligible (if any) results in this last country.

GM Andreas says: It is the Azerbaijan government that don´t want the Russian troops. They say it is just the first step of Russian occupation.

Germany:
At the begining of this turn:
[*] Revolt in Azerbaijan. Russian and German troops trying to put it down while supporting Azerbaijani government (at least they pretend to).
[*] Conflict starts aain in Nagorno-Karabakh as Azerbaijan seems to take profit of the chaos to retake it.

GM Andreas says: The Azerbaijan government order the army to fight the Russians. So these are regular Azerbaijan army fighting te Russians not some rebel forces. The Azerbaijan govt say Armenian rebels in Nagorno Karabakh are acting more aggresive and so the Azerbaijan army moved in to take them out and retake the occupied province.
What do you say, Kelvin?


TY.

To clarify the situation was the reason of my post
Saudi Arabia
player, 18 posts
Fri 4 Sep 2015
at 21:39
  • msg #30

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Israel:
Saudi Arabia:
its troops withraw to their borders. If so, we will make our best to garantee them and to avoid Israel is damaged by the heretic fanatics

From Israel: IC attacked Israel with WMDs and Israel set forth to make sure that never happens again. After our swift attack on IC forces occupying territory formerly of Syrian domain, we have been blessed with assurances for our safety from all over the world, from USA to Saudi. Israel is reasonable and will withdraw our troops to inside Israels borders. However if any attack on Israel occurs despite our friends guarantees, we may start to doubt their sincerity or competence...

OOC: Well, that was quick and painful... :)


Saudi Arabia thanks Israel to have regained their senses and seen that their intended action would be more counterproducent than positive. We see its retreat as a nice move of good will and hopes that can be the begining of new relations among our countries.

Saudi troops will resume operations against the heretic fanatics immediately.
Combat Cycle Ref
GM, 56 posts
Fri 4 Sep 2015
at 22:05
  • msg #31

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

In reply to Germany (msg # 29):

Unless I am ordered otherwise it will be:
Azerbaijan rebels vs. Russia and Germany
Azerbaijan government vs. Armenia and Russia
Referee
GM, 84 posts
Fri 4 Sep 2015
at 22:08
  • msg #32

Re: Historical Interval 2030-2034

Combat Cycle Ref:
In reply to Germany (msg # 29):

Unless I am ordered otherwise it will be:
Azerbaijan rebels vs. Russia and Germany
Azerbaijan government vs. Armenia and Russia

Go for launch. /Andreas, GM
Combat Cycle Ref
GM, 57 posts
Fri 11 Sep 2015
at 23:31
  • msg #33

Nagorno-Karabakh, again

In reply to Referee (msg # 32):

“The Azeris are in the compound! The Azeris are in the compound! Tell my mother I have been a good boy! May God ha…<static>” –That is a sound clip from a desperate radio call by a panicked Armenian soldier. This comes to us amid growing speculation that the latest Azerbaijani incursions into  Nagorno-Karabakh was the Qasimov government’s attempt to look strong in the face of ongoing German and Russian operations to keep the Coalition supply lines open through Azerbaijan.


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Azerbaijan attacking:
Azerbaijani  3 veteran motor inf bde
Azerbaijani  10 experienced motor inf bde
Azerbaijani  2 exp artillery bde
Azerbaijani  2 exp SAMs
Azerbaijani  3 green multirole heli
Azerbaijani  1 exp multirole heli
Azerbaijani  1 exp multirole planes
Azerbaijani  2 green multirole plane

Mil Rank 3, Mil tech 7.9, Sum basic Combat Strength 37,  Final Combat Strength: 2309

Vs Defending:
Russian -unit#225-226: Veteran Mechanized : 3: M: Sol Earth H19
Russian -unit#227 Veteran Multi-role Plane: 3: L: Sol Earth H19
Armenia 3 exp mech :3: M
Armenia 2 reserve inf : 2: U
Armenia 2 exp artillery : 3: U
Armenia 1 reserve multirole plane : 3: L

Average Mil Rank 3, Average Mil tech 8.2, Sum basic Combat Strength 29,  Final Combat Strength: 1949

Odds are 2309/1949 = 1.18 which becomes 1:1

18:43, Today: Combat Cycle Ref rolled 10 using 1d10.  Nagorno-Karabakh, again.

Results: 0% loss Attacker, 60/5=12% permanent loss to defender,

0.12 X 29 available hits = 3.48 = 3

GM chooses:
Russian unit#227 is destroyed
This message was last edited by the player at 00:02, Sat 12 Sept 2015.
Combat Cycle Ref
GM, 59 posts
Sat 12 Sep 2015
at 02:03
  • msg #34

Through Bandit Country

In reply to Referee (msg # 32):

“I hate this place. Tell my mother I was a good boy. May God have mercy on my soul.” Suicide note from Pvt. Hans Schuller of the German army who killed himself amid a growing investigation into possible indiscriminate shooting into an Azerbaijani village after his convoy was ambushed nearby by anti-Coalition militants.

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Azerbaijani rebels attacking
Azerbaijani rebel: 8 Reserve Infantry: 1 : U
Azerbaijani rebel: 1 Experienced Infantry: 1: U

Mil Rank 4, Mil tech 7.9, Sum Basic Strength: 9, Final Combat Strength: 561


Russia and Germany defending
Russian -unit#442, 443, 444: Experienced Infantry Brigades: 1: U: Sol Earth H20: Security
German -unit#213, 214, 215: Veteran Infantry Brigades:1 :U: Sol Earth H20: Airborne & Security
German unit#718,719,720: Experienced Multi-role Plane: 3: L: Sol Earth H20

Mil Rank 2, Mil tech 8.4, Sum Basic Strength: 15, Final Combat Strength: 2751


Odds are 561/2751=0.204 which becomes 1:5 odds, shifted 2*(2-4)=-4 = 4 columns to left

20:54, Today: Combat Cycle Ref rolled 8 using 1d10.  Through Bandit Country.

Results: 100%/5=20% permanent to loss Attacker, 0% permanent loss to defender,

0.20 X 9 available hits = 1.8 = 1

GM chooses:
Azerbaijani rebel: 1 Reserve Infantry are destroyed
This message was last edited by the player at 23:03, Tue 15 Sept 2015.
Germany
player, 132 posts
Sat 12 Sep 2015
at 07:48
  • msg #35

Re: Through Bandit Country

Combat Cycle Ref:
Azerbaijani rebels attacking
Azerbaijani rebel: 8 Reserve Infantry: 1 : U
Azerbaijani rebel: 1 Experienced Infantry: 1: U

Mil Rank 4, Mil tech 7.9, Sum Basic Strength: 9, Final Combat Strength: 561

Russia and Germany defending
Russian -unit#442, 443, 444: Experienced Infantry Brigades: 1: U: Sol Earth H20: Security
German -unit#213, 214, 215: Veteran Infantry Brigades:1 :U: Sol Earth H20: Airborne & Security
German unit#718,719,720: Experienced Multi-role Plane: 3: L: Sol Earth H20

Mil Rank 2, Mil tech 8.4, Sum Basic Strength: 15, Final Combat Strength: 2751

Odds are 561/2751=0.204 which becomes 1:5 odds, shifted 2*(2-4)=-4 = 4 columns to left

20:54, Today: Combat Cycle Ref rolled 8 using 1d10.  Through Bandit Country.

Results: 100%/5=25% permanent to loss Attacker, 0% permanent loss to defender,

0.25 X 9 available hits = 2.25 = 2


Not that it would change anything, so the questions are just theoretical and didactical (after all we're all still learning the details of the rules):

  • being all Russian/German security troops against MR4 guerrillas, should'n combat factor be 5 (12.10, page 81, last paragraph)? (EDIT: I see for the calculation of the total combat strength you used it as 5, as otherwise FCS would be 1058) END EDIT)
  • I see you averaged TL for the Russian/German side. ITTR that I asked you once about it (I cannot find in the forum and not looked for in Emails) and I was told each country CP wil lbe counted separatelly and then added in each side. So, will they be averaged? (see that this may make a low TL country a true hindrance, even reducing the total CP by contributing with units).
  • For the attacker, losses are 100/5=20%, .2 x 9 = 1.8 (so only 1 unit should be destroyed)


And finally, a mix of IC and OOC:

Combat Cycle Ref:
“I hate this place. Tell my mother I was a good boy. May God have mercy on my soul.” Suicide note from Pvt. Hans Schuller of the German army who killed himself amid a growing investigation into possible indiscriminate shooting into an Azerbaijani village after his convoy was ambushed nearby by anti-Coalition militants.


Why Germany always takes the worst part of the news? It happened in the Pakistani crisis in 2016, where Germany (while mostly keeping aside) was blamed by India, it happenes this turn in the news (see German Military Fights on in the Sand in the Middle East section), and now a German soldier commiting suicide. So bad is German relations with Press? (just jocking a little)


Note: Edited to add the second question and the comment about press
This message was last edited by the player at 16:20, Wed 16 Sept 2015.
Combat Cycle Ref
GM, 60 posts
Tue 15 Sep 2015
at 23:28
  • msg #36

Bloody Damascus

In reply to Referee (msg # 32):

“He just kept on repeating ‘Tell my mother I have been a good boy’ which came to me amid my growing speculation on just who his mother was. We have to go down to As Suwayda and clean everybody out, may God have Mercy on their souls” –Hidden camera footage purportedly of Syrian President Assad giving orders while leaving his motorcade.

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Russia and Syria attacking
Russian -unit#186: Elite Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H19
Russian -unit#187, 188, 189, 190: Veteran Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H19
Russian -unit#193-194: Green Mechanized : 3: M: Sol Earth H19
Russian -unit#198-204: Experienced Artillery : 3: U: Sol Earth H19
Russian -unit#445-454: Experienced Infantry :1 : U: Sol Earth H19: Security
Russian -unit#191-192: Veteran Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20
Russian -unit#214-216: Experienced Multi-role Plane :3: L: Sol Earth H20
Syria: 5 Green Tank :5:H : Sol Earth H19
Syria: 5 Green Mechanized : 3: M: Sol Earth H19
Syria: 5 Green Motorized : 1: U: Sol Earth H19
Syria: 10 Green Infantry : 1: U: Sol Earth H19
Syria: 10 Reserve Infantry : 1: U: Sol Earth H19 Stealth Ability, various militias
Syria: 4 Green Infantry Brigades (Security Ability)
Syria: 1 Green Artillery : 6: U: Sol Earth H19
Syria: 8 Green Multi-role planes : 3: L : Sol Earth H19
Syria: 5 Green Multi-role Helicopter : 2: M : Sol Earth H19
Syria: 4 Green IRBM : 6: U : Sol Earth H19

Mil Rank 3, Mil tech 8.2, Sum Basic Strength: 196, Final Combat Strength: 17011


Syrian rebels defending
Syrian rebels: 26 Reserve Infantry Brigades (Stealth Ability, various militia forces)
Syrian rebels: 3 Green Motorized Brigades (ex-Syrian Army)
Syrian rebels: 6 Green Mechanized Brigades (ex-Syrian Army)
Syrian rebels: 1 Green Artillery Brigades (ex-Syrian Army)
Syrian rebels: 2 Reserve SAM Brigades (ex-Syrian Army)

Mil Rank 4, Mil tech 7.5, Sum Basic Strength: 57, Final Combat Strength: 3206


Odds are 17011/3206=5.301 which becomes 5:1 odds, shifted 2*(4-3)=2 = 2 columns to right

18:25, Today: Combat Cycle Ref rolled 7 using 1d10.  Bloody Damascus.

Results: 0% permanent to loss Attacker, 100%/5=20% permanent loss to defender,

0.20 X 57 available hits = 11.4 = 11

GM chooses:
Syrian rebels: 11 Reserve Infantry are destroyed
Germany
player, 134 posts
Wed 16 Sep 2015
at 15:22
  • msg #37

Bloody Damascus

Seeing that Syrian artillery and IRBMs are listed as combat factor 6, I assume they're using MDW. Right?
Germany
player, 136 posts
Wed 16 Sep 2015
at 18:51
  • msg #38

Re: Through Bandit Country

Germany:
[*] I see you averaged TL for the Russian/German side. ITTR that I asked you once about it (I cannot find in the forum and not looked for in Emails) and I was told each country CP wil lbe counted separatelly and then added in each side. So, will they be averaged? (see that this may make a low TL country a true hindrance, even reducing the total CP by contributing with units).


Found it in the forum (off course, when looking for another detail)

Thread: Rules 20140915, page 2, post 10:

quote:
Rule 12:10 Is this calculated by nation (and adding the value of allied nations) or the whole force?
By nation.


Has this been changed?
Combat Cycle Ref
GM, 64 posts
Thu 17 Sep 2015
at 22:05
  • msg #39

Re: Through Bandit Country

In reply to Germany (msg # 38):

>Seeing that Syrian artillery and IRBMs are listed as combat factor 6, I assume
>they're using MDW. Right?
Yes

>>>Rule 12:10 Is this calculated by nation (and adding the value of allied nations) or the whole force?
>>By nation.
>Has this been changed?
GM's discretion. If the forces are relatively similar then the <1% difference in your example between the two methods is too small for me to care about.
Combat Cycle Ref
GM, 65 posts
Thu 17 Sep 2015
at 22:47
  • msg #40

A Jihad, like any other

“I have no regrets about this act. Tell my mother I have been a good boy. May God have mercy on all our souls”- Martyrdom video from a Karachi hospital worker believed to have deliberately infected patients with the disease known as ‘The Scourge of God’. This comes amid growing investor speculation on the stock price of the USA based company ‘Gen-sys’ based on possible contracts to fight the viral haemorrhagic fever.


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Russia, Saudi Arabia, Germany, USA, UK attacking IC
Russia unit#437, 438, 439, 440. 441   Experienced Infantry : 1: U: Sol Earth H20, Security ability
Saudi Arabia unit# 21, 22 :experienced artillery :3: U: Sol Earth I22
Saudi Arabia unit# 1,3, 4: green armor: 5: H: Sol Earth I22
Saudi Arabia unit# 31, 32,33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38: green mech :Sol Earth I22
Saudi Arabia unit# 61: experienced motorized: 1: U :Sol Earth I22
Saudi Arabia unit# 304, 305: vet multi-role planes:3: L: Sol Earth I22
Saudi Arabia unit# 308, 309, 310: experienced multi-role planes: 3 : L: Sol Earth I22
German unit# 701, 702: elite multirole plane: 3: L: Sol Earth H20
German unit# 706, 707, 708: Veteran multirole plane: Sol Earth H20
German unit# units 2, 3: Veteran Tank: 5: H : Sol Earth H20
German unit# 52: Veteran Artillery: 3: U : Sol Earth H20
UK : Veteran Bomber : 4: M: Sol Earth I21: longrange
UK: veteran Multirole plane : 3:L: Sol Earth I21
UK: elite multirole plane: 3: L: Sol Earth I21
USA x3: Veteran Multirole Plane: 3: L: Amphibious
UK:elite Inf :1: U: Sol Earth H20: stealth, airborne, amphibious
UK: elite Inf: 1: U: Sol Earth H20: stealth, airborne, amphibious
USA: Elite Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20
USA: Elite Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20: amphibious
USA: Elite Armoured :5: M: Sol Earth H20
USA: Elite Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20

Mil Rank 2, Mil tech 8.2, Sum Basic Strength: 126, Final Combat Strength: 9798

Islamic Caliphate Defending:
3 Green Motorized Brigades (ex-Syrian and Iraqi units)
11 Reserve Infantry Brigades (Stealth Ability, various militia)
2 Green SAM Brigades (ex-Syrian and Iraqi units)
3 Green Infantry Brigades (ex-Syrian and Iraqi units)

Mil Rank 4, Mil tech 7.4, Sum Basic Strength: 21, Final Combat Strength: 1149

Odds are 9798/1149=8.527 which becomes 8:1 odds, shifted { 2*(4-2)=4 to right for difference in Military Rank, 2 to left for WMD usage and worldwide terror campaign by IC, 2 to left for chaos to Coalition operations and Muslim world outrage due to Israeli invasion} final odds 8:1

17:42, Today: Combat Cycle Ref rolled 9 using 1d10.  A Jihad, like any other.

Results: 0% permanent to loss Attacker, 100%/5=20% permanent loss to defender,

0.20 X 21 available hits = 4.2 = 4

GM chooses:
Islamic Caliphate: 4 Reserve Infantry are destroyed
Combat Cycle Ref
GM, 66 posts
Mon 21 Sep 2015
at 21:55
  • msg #41

A Jihad, like any other

Ok, it is now time to begin the next round of combat. Only the ‘A Jihad, like any other’ storyline will feature right now because it is the most intensive situation.
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If the Russian and Armenian Generals on the balcony in Yerevan tried to say anything it was drowned out by the roar of the surging crowd below; eventually they just smiled, hugged and roared right back.

If the fevered dreams Prophet of Mosel come to fruition then eventually everyone will have fevered dreams.

If the public griping is not dealt with soon then eventually the unity of Western Europe will be seriously jeopardized.

If the modest street protests are any indication then the leaders of PROTO have yet to get all of the Iranian factions to commit to the peace process; eventually something has got to give.

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Russia, Saudi Arabia, Germany, USA, UK attacking IC
Russia unit#437, 438, 439, 440. 441   Experienced Infantry : 1: U: Sol Earth H20, Security ability
Saudi Arabia unit# 21, 22 :experienced artillery :3: U: Sol Earth I22
Saudi Arabia unit# 1,3, 4: green armour: 5: H: Sol Earth I22
Saudi Arabia unit# 31, 32,33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38: green mech :Sol Earth I22
Saudi Arabia unit# 61: experienced motorized: 1: U :Sol Earth I22
Saudi Arabia unit# 304, 305: vet multi-role planes:3: L: Sol Earth I22
Saudi Arabia unit# 308, 309, 310: experienced multi-role planes: 3 : L: Sol Earth I22
German unit# 701, 702: elite multirole plane: 3: L: Sol Earth H20
German unit# 706, 707, 708: Veteran multirole plane: Sol Earth H20
German unit# units 2, 3: Veteran Tank: 5: H : Sol Earth H20
German unit# 52: Veteran Artillery: 3: U : Sol Earth H20
UK : Veteran Bomber : 4: M: Sol Earth I21: longrange
UK: veteran Multirole plane : 3:L: Sol Earth I21
UK: elite multirole plane: 3: L: Sol Earth I21
USA x3: Veteran Multirole Plane: 3: L: Amphibious
UK: elite Inf :1: U: Sol Earth H20: stealth, airborne, amphibious
UK: elite Inf: 1: U: Sol Earth H20: stealth, airborne, amphibious
USA: Elite Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20
USA: Elite Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20: amphibious
USA: Elite Armoured :5: M: Sol Earth H20
USA: Elite Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20

Mil Rank 2, Mil tech 8.2, Sum Basic Strength: 126, Final Combat Strength: 9798

Islamic Caliphate Defending:
3 Green Motorized Brigades (ex-Syrian and Iraqi units)
7 Reserve Infantry Brigades (Stealth Ability, various militia)
2 Green SAM Brigades (ex-Syrian and Iraqi units)
3 Green Infantry Brigades (ex-Syrian and Iraqi units)

Mil Rank 4, Mil tech 7.4, Sum Basic Strength: 17, Final Combat Strength: 930

Odds are 9798/930=10.5 which becomes 10:1 odds, shifted { 2*(4-2)=4 to right for difference in Military Rank, 2 to left for WMD usage and worldwide terror campaign by IC, 2 to left for chaos to Coalition operations and Muslim world outrage due to Israeli invasion} final odds 10:1

16:41, Today: Combat Cycle Ref rolled 6 using 1d10.  A Jihad, like any other.

Results: 0% permanent to loss Attacker, 100%/5=20% permanent loss to defender,

0.20 X 17 available hits = 3.4 = 3

GM chooses:
Islamic Caliphate: 2 Reserve Infantry are destroyed
Islamic Caliphate: 1 Green Infantry is destroyed
Saudi Arabia
player, 19 posts
Tue 22 Sep 2015
at 16:03
  • msg #42

A Jihad, like any other

I know holding territory is not a critical factor in insurgences, and I didn't dare to ask on any other, but as IC is traying to hold it(assuming it's actin as in Real World, has it lost the gained territory?
Germany
player, 141 posts
Tue 22 Sep 2015
at 18:16
  • msg #43

As the turn seems near to end...

In order to make a better use of remaining response PAs, can we please have a sumary of the situations at the end of CR2 in?:

  1. Kurdistan (mostly Turkish part)
  2. Azerbaijan/Armenia border
  3. Lybia
  4. Egypt
  5. Iran

This message was last edited by the player at 18:17, Tue 22 Sept 2015.
Combat Cycle Ref
GM, 67 posts
Tue 22 Sep 2015
at 21:27
  • msg #44

As the turn seems near to end...

In reply to Germany (msg # 43):

A summary of the situations at the end of CR2:
Kurdistan (mostly Turkish part): France, as has made clear before, has stated its support of armed assistance of Turkey and has units in the area to do that. It is possible, but unlikely that Turkey or Kurdistan will try something soon. Expect the GM to make a roll soon as to its fate.

Azerbaijan/Armenia border: Active full on war

Libya: Festering blood bath, expect the GM to make a roll soon as to its fate.

Egypt: Festering, expect the GM to make a roll soon as to its fate.

Iran: The moderate and the hardliners faction are about equally strong right now. The Iranian military have stayed in their barracks this entire turn. There is no (brigade level) fighting between Iran and Kurd (or any other) faction. But the army is getting restless, 2035 might be different...
This message was last edited by the player at 19:00, Wed 23 Sept 2015.
Combat Cycle Ref
GM, 68 posts
Tue 22 Sep 2015
at 21:30
  • msg #45

A Jihad, like any other

In reply to Saudi Arabia (msg # 42):

>IC is traying to hold it(assuming it's actin as in Real World, has it lost the
>gained territory?
It has lost the territory that it gained with its successful actions last Turn. It needs to be said though, with the low Stability ratings of the IC and all the nations around it, the terms 'losing' and 'gaining' territory are hardly meaningful.
Germany
player, 144 posts
Thu 24 Sep 2015
at 14:27
  • msg #46

Re: As the turn seems near to end...

Combat Cycle Ref:
In reply to Germany (msg # 43):
Iran: The moderate and the hardliners faction are about equally strong right now. The Iranian military have stayed in their barracks this entire turn. There is no (brigade level) fighting between Iran and Kurd (or any other) faction. But the army is getting restless, 2035 might be different...


Is Iran complying with the peace conditions (mostly destroying their MDW stocks)?
Referee
GM, 85 posts
Fri 25 Sep 2015
at 13:00
  • msg #47

Re: As the turn seems near to end...

Germany:
Combat Cycle Ref:
In reply to Germany (msg # 43):
Iran: The moderate and the hardliners faction are about equally strong right now. The Iranian military have stayed in their barracks this entire turn. There is no (brigade level) fighting between Iran and Kurd (or any other) faction. But the army is getting restless, 2035 might be different...


Is Iran complying with the peace conditions (mostly destroying their MDW stocks)?

Iran says: We are complying.
Independant observers say: Some goals have been acheived, others not:
A) Iran has NO military units with WMDs
B) Of the WMD stockpiles not in military units:
-50% have been destroyed
-20% are in locations controlled by Indian military police and inspected by international observers, scheduled for destruction
-20% controlled by Iran army and inspected by international observers, scheduled for destruction
-10% are unaccounted for.
C) Factory to produce new weapons is destroyed

GM Andreas says: In game terms: Iran has no WMDs. It is my understanding of the rules that Iran could build new WMDs in 2035 if it wants as we have no game mechanic to hinder this. Kelvin what is your input? If Kelvin has no input I am making a GM decision to say that German experts believe Iran would be able to produce new WMDs in 2040 at the earliest.
Combat Cycle Ref
GM, 71 posts
Fri 25 Sep 2015
at 17:23
  • msg #48

Round 3: The world continues to move

Syria Demands More Aid (Damascus, Syria): “We have those traitors on the run, please do not leave us now!” said Bassel al-Assad in a public address following the movement of numerous Russian units to fight in the exploding Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict. “Every day we see more and more flights of Israeli and Indian cargo planes to Kurdistan, what do we need to do to get that kind of support?” That these remarks were delivered by the Syrian President’s son is sure to fuel ongoing speculation that the elder Assad had contracted any one of several life-threatening diseases known to have outbreaks in Damascus.

Protests as NATO Welcomes Newest Member (Tbilisi, Georgia): “If they will not fight for their own friends how can we expect them to fight for us?!” shouted Georgian opposition leader ZaZa Pachulia at protests across from the banquet hall to welcome the latest NATO member. Mr Pachulia’s remarks echoed similar remarks from the leaders of Portugal and the Czech Republic on their leaving the NATO alliance following German failed efforts to patch over differences regarding the ongoing situation in the Middle East.  Citing the French decision to again remove itself from the NATO command structure, the NATO press officer on the scene declined to state if he knew if a French delegation would be attending saying only that as France was still part of NATO they would be welcome.

Deal on Airport Likely (Tripoli, Libya): The leader of the European backed Transitional National Libyan Government (TNLG) was hopeful that Italian peacekeepers would not be needed to take back the Tripoli International Airport. This is based on word that the Egyptian backed Interim National Libyan government (INLG) forces would sell the airport back the TLNG for ‘…a reasonable sum’”. In other news, the Islamic Revolutionary Front for Justice (IRFJ) announced that it has lost control of the ruins of the Ras Lanuf oil refinery to the AUF (Al Bayda Unity Front). However, our experts contend it is likely a mistake since that group has not been heard from for some months and actually refers to the ABrUF (Al Bardiyah Unity Front) group.

Suez Terminals Burn (Port Said, Egypt): Egyptian military units, some of them from the feared 11th Brigade, conducted for the 4th straight day what they called “…standard security operations with not much more than expected casualties to criminals and rioters” according to a military spokesperson. No one is quite sure what started the latest round of violence but before being downed by police drones our camera balloons captured numerous images of bodies in the streets and machine gun fire directed at surging crowds.


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Through Bandit Country

Azerbaijani rebels attacking
Azerbaijani rebel: 7 Reserve Infantry: 1 : U
Azerbaijani rebel: 1 Experienced Infantry: 1: U

Mil Rank 4, Mil tech 7.9, Sum Basic Strength: 8, Final Combat Strength: 499


Russia and Germany defending
Russian -unit#442, 443, 444: Experienced Infantry Brigades: 1: U: Sol Earth H20: Security
German -unit#213, 214, 215: Veteran Infantry Brigades:1 :U: Sol Earth H20: Airborne & Security
German unit#718,719,720: Experienced Multi-role Plane: 3: L: Sol Earth H20

Mil Rank 2, Mil tech 8.4, Sum Basic Strength: 15, Final Combat Strength: 2751


Odds are 499/2751=0.18 which becomes 1:5 odds, shifted 2*(2-4)=-4 = 4 columns to left for Military Rank, 2 columns to right for growing support; final odds 1:7

10:13, Today: Combat Cycle Ref rolled 2 using 1d10.  Through Bandit Country#2.


Results: 100%/5=20% permanent to loss Attacker, 0% permanent loss to defender,

0.20 X 8 available hits = 1.6 = 1, GM decrees 1 extra hit lost as spill over from previous round

GM chooses:
Azerbaijani rebel: 2 Reserve Infantry are destroyed



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Bloody Damascus


Russia and Syria attacking
Russian -unit#186: Elite Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H19
Russian -unit#187, 188, 189, 190: Veteran Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H19
Russian -unit#193-194: Green Mechanized : 3: M: Sol Earth H19
Russian -unit#198-204: Experienced Artillery : 3: U: Sol Earth H19
Russian -unit#445-454: Experienced Infantry :1 : U: Sol Earth H19: Security
Russian -unit#191-192: Veteran Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20
Russian -unit#214-216: Experienced Multi-role Plane :3: L: Sol Earth H20
Syria: 5 Green Tank :5:H : Sol Earth H19
Syria: 5 Green Mechanized : 3: M: Sol Earth H19
Syria: 5 Green Motorized : 1: U: Sol Earth H19
Syria: 10 Green Infantry : 1: U: Sol Earth H19
Syria: 10 Reserve Infantry : 1: U: Sol Earth H19 Stealth Ability, various militias
Syria: 4 Green Infantry Brigades (Security Ability)
Syria: 1 Green Artillery : 6: U: Sol Earth H19
Syria: 8 Green Multi-role planes : 3: L : Sol Earth H19
Syria: 5 Green Multi-role Helicopter : 2: M : Sol Earth H19
Syria: 4 Green IRBM : 6: U : Sol Earth H19

Mil Rank 3, Mil tech 8.2, Sum Basic Strength: 196, Final Combat Strength: 17011


Syrian rebels defending
Syrian rebels: 15 Reserve Infantry Brigades (Stealth Ability, various militia forces)
Syrian rebels: 3 Green Motorized Brigades (ex-Syrian Army)
Syrian rebels: 6 Green Mechanized Brigades (ex-Syrian Army)
Syrian rebels: 1 Green Artillery Brigades (ex-Syrian Army)
Syrian rebels: 2 Reserve SAM Brigades (ex-Syrian Army)

Mil Rank 4, Mil tech 7.5, Sum Basic Strength: 46, Final Combat Strength: 2587


Odds are 17011/2587=5.301 which becomes 5:1 odds, shifted 2*(4-3)=2 = 2 columns to right for Military Rank, 2 columns to left for Russian units exiting during fight; final odds 5:1

10:23, Today: Combat Cycle Ref rolled 5 using 1d10.  Bloody Damascus#2.

Results: 0% permanent to loss Attacker, 100%/5=20% permanent loss to defender,

0.20 X 46 available hits = 9.2 = 9

GM chooses:
Syrian rebels: 3 Reserve Infantry are destroyed
Syrian rebels: 1 Green Motorized are destroyed
Syrian rebels: 2 Green Mechanized Brigade (ex-Syrian Army) are destroyed


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A Jihad, like any other

Russia, Saudi Arabia, Germany, USA, UK attacking IC
Russia unit#437, 438, 439, 440. 441   Experienced Infantry : 1: U: Sol Earth H20, Security ability
Saudi Arabia unit# 1: green armor: 5: H: Sol Earth I22
Saudi Arabia unit# 32: green mech :Sol Earth I22
Gerrman unit# 701, 702: elite multirole plane: 3: L: Sol Earth H20
German unit# 706, 707, 708: Veteran multirole plane: Sol Earth H20
German unit# units 2, 3: Veteran Tank: 5: H : Sol Earth H20
German unit# 52: Veteran Artillery: 3: U : Sol Earth H20
UK : Veteran Bomber : 4: M: Sol Earth I21: longrange
UK: veteran Multirole plane : 3:L: Sol Earth I21
UK: elite multirole plane: 3: L: Sol Earth I21
USA x3: Veteran Multirole Plane: 3: L: Amphibious
UK:elite Inf :1: U: Sol Earth H20: stealth, airborne, amphibious
UK: elite Inf: 1: U: Sol Earth H20: stealth, airborne, amphibious
USA: Elite Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20
USA: Elite Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20: amphibious
USA: Elite Armoured :5: M: Sol Earth H20
USA: Elite Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20

Mil Rank 2, Mil tech 8.2, Sum Basic Strength: 82, Final Combat Strength: 5513

Islamic Caliphate Defending:
3 Green Motorized Brigades (ex-Syrian and Iraqi units)
7 Reserve Infantry Brigades (Stealth Ability, various militia)
2 Green SAM Brigades (ex-Syrian and Iraqi units)
3 Green Infantry Brigades (ex-Syrian and Iraqi units)

Mil Rank 4, Mil tech 7.4, Sum Basic Strength: 17, Final Combat Strength: 930

Odds are 5513/930=5.9 which becomes 5:1 odds, shifted { 2*(4-2)=4 to right for difference in Military Rank, 2 to left for WMD usage and worldwide terror campaign by IC, 1 to left for Muslim world outrage due to Israeli invasion} final odds 6:1

10:39, Today: Combat Cycle Ref rolled 5 using 1d10.  A Jihad, like any other#2.

Results: 0% permanent to loss Attacker, 100%/5=20% permanent loss to defender,

0.20 X 17 available hits = 3.4 = 3

GM chooses:
Islamic Caliphate: 2 Reserve Infantry are destroyed
Islamic Caliphate: 1 Green Motorized Brigade (ex-Syrian and Iraqi units) is destroyed


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Nagorno-Karabakh, again

Attacking:
Russian -unit#186: Elite Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20
Russian -unit#187, 188, 189, 190: Veteran Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20
Russian -unit#193-194: Green Mechanized : 3: M: Sol Earth H20
Russian -unit#198-204: Experienced Artillery : 3: U: Sol Earth H20
Russian -unit#191-192: Veteran Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20
Russian -unit#225-226: Veteran Mechanized : 3: M: Sol Earth H20
Russian -unit#210-213: Experienced Multi-role Plane :3: L: Sol Earth G17
Russian -unit#217-223: Experienced Multi-role Helicopter :2: L: Sol Earth G17
Armenia 3 exp mech :3: M
Armenia 2 reserve inf : 2: U
Armenia 2 exp artillery : 3: U
Armenia 1 reserve multirole plane : 3: L
Armenia 1 exp tank bde:5:H
Armenia 4 green motor inf bde:1:U
Armenia 1 green inf bde:1:U
Armenia 4 reserve inf bde:1: U
Armenia 2 veteran artillery bde:3:U
Armenia 1 green SAM:2:U
Armenia 2 reserve multirole planes:3:L
Armenia 1 reserve attack heli squad:2:M
Armenia 1 green IRBM (Scud):2:U

Mil Rank 3, Average Mil tech 8.2, Sum basic Combat Strength 132,  Final Combat Strength: 8875
Defending:
Azerbaijani  3 veteran motor inf bde:1:U
Azerbaijani  10 experienced motor inf bde:1:U
Azerbaijani  10 green motor inf bde:1:U
Azerbaijani  11 Reserve motor inf bde:1:U
Azerbaijani  2 exp artillery bde:3:U
Azerbaijani  2 exp SAMs:2:U
Azerbaijani  3 green multirole heli:2:M
Azerbaijani  1 exp multirole heli:2:M
Azerbaijani  1 exp multirole planes:3:L
Azerbaijani  2 green multirole plane:3:L
Azerbaijani  2 green patrol boat squads:1:L

Mil Rank 3, Mil tech 7.9, Sum basic Combat Strength 60,  Final Combat Strength: 3744

Odds are 8875/3744=2.3 which becomes 2:1 odds, final odds 2:1

11:16, Today: Combat Cycle Ref rolled 2 using 1d10.  Nagorno-Karabakh, again#2.

Results: 20%/5=4% permanent to loss Attacker, 20%/5=4% permanent loss to defender,

Attacker 0.04 X 132 available hits = 5.3 = 5
Defender 0.04 X 60 available hits = 2.4 = 2


GM chooses:
Russian -unit#217: Experienced Multi-role Helicopter :2: L: Sol Earth G17 is destroyed
Armenia 1 exp mech :3: M is destroyed
Azerbaijani : 2 green motor inf bde:1:U are destroyed
Combat Cycle Ref
GM, 72 posts
Sat 26 Sep 2015
at 13:40
  • msg #49

Light at the end

Well I have been having fun; blood death and destruction, always an interesting time! I am expecting to finish off the last combats that I know about mid next week (Sept 30th) and then my writ to boss you guys around as Combat Cycle Ref expires. Actually I could do these combats in less than an hour, I just want to give you guys time to start/react anything. After that it will be onto the last step, which is writing any followup summary newspaper articles before the end of Turn, which given that it is mostly nothing more than collecting and editing what is already on this forum, will not take long... and then we can be done with this Turn that is now into its <ugh!> 2nd year. At what point, how long the GM wants to give you, before he stops accepting any new orders on this Turn is up to him, but it will not be long.

There is a light at the end of the tunnel, whether it is sunlight or an oncoming train depends largely on how fast you move, my job is nearly done.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:05, Sat 26 Sept 2015.
Germany
player, 151 posts
Wed 30 Sep 2015
at 15:28
  • msg #50

Light at the end

While reviewing the whole thread to put (once more) in order my own ideas, I realized:

GM Andreas:
We are now at 2030.

4) Schedule for 2030 turn.
sep 5:  END 2025 TURN. Me & Kelvin set about editing new budgets for old and new PCs
sep 12: Player receive budgets
sep 17: Player send in budget and actions
sep 24: Last news article up by GM
sep 30: Player deadline for response
okt 7: Last followup by GM
okt 19: END TURN


I don't know if it has been intentional or casual, but for once we keep on schedule (luckily you didn't specify the year).
Referee
GM, 87 posts
Wed 30 Sep 2015
at 20:47
  • msg #51

Re: Light at the end

Germany:
While reviewing the whole thread to put (once more) in order my own ideas, I realized:

GM Andreas:
We are now at 2030.

4) Schedule for 2030 turn.
sep 5:  END 2025 TURN. Me & Kelvin set about editing new budgets for old and new PCs
sep 12: Player receive budgets
sep 17: Player send in budget and actions
sep 24: Last news article up by GM
sep 30: Player deadline for response
okt 7: Last followup by GM
okt 19: END TURN


I don't know if it has been intentional or casual, but for once we keep on schedule (luckily you didn't specify the year).

GM Andreas says: Funny and sad at the same time... :)
Combat Cycle Ref
GM, 77 posts
Mon 5 Oct 2015
at 19:31
  • msg #52

Round 4: Things heating up, things winding down

Bloody Damascus:

Senators insist on being heard (Washington DC, USA): After being cut short from speaking at a Federalist party caucus meeting, senators Tom Richards (F-Oklahoma) and Terry Nicolas (F- California) were clearly intent on making sure that their message would be heard by someone. Speaking outside the caucus meeting room senator Nicolas said “The party leadership wants to talk about the Russian embargo of Azerbaijani oil production but I cannot get anyone to talk about federal dollars for lower income families hurt by the worsening drought”. Also speaking to reporters, senator Richards said “We need harsher action now to stop the Muslim radicals pouring across our southern border, just last week they bombed the mailbox outside my Tulsa office, again! Yet the party leadership thinks it is more important to take the time to consolidate the successes in stabilizing Iraq instead.”

Russia and Syria attacking
Russian unit#445-454: Experienced Infantry :1 : U: Sol Earth H19: Security
Russian unit#214-216: Experienced Multi-role Plane :3: L: Sol Earth H20
Syria: 5 Green Tank :5:H : Sol Earth H19
Syria: 5 Green Mechanized : 3: M: Sol Earth H19
Syria: 5 Green Motorized : 1: U: Sol Earth H19
Syria: 10 Green Infantry : 1: U: Sol Earth H19
Syria: 10 Reserve Infantry : 1: U: Sol Earth H19 Stealth Ability, various militias
Syria: 4 Green Infantry Brigades (Security Ability)
Syria: 1 Green Artillery : 6: U: Sol Earth H19
Syria: 8 Green Multi-role planes : 3: L : Sol Earth H19
Syria: 5 Green Multi-role Helicopter : 2: M : Sol Earth H19
Syria: 4 Green IRBM : 6: U : Sol Earth H19

Mil Rank 3, Mil tech 8.2, Sum Basic Strength: 147, Final Combat Strength: 13985


Syrian rebels defending
Syrian rebels: 12 Reserve Infantry Brigades (Stealth Ability, various militia forces)
Syrian rebels: 2 Green Motorized Brigades (ex-Syrian Army)
Syrian rebels: 4 Green Mechanized Brigades (ex-Syrian Army)
Syrian rebels: 1 Green Artillery Brigades (ex-Syrian Army)
Syrian rebels: 2 Reserve SAM Brigades (ex-Syrian Army)

Mil Rank 4, Mil tech 7.5, Sum Basic Strength: 37, Final Combat Strength: 2081


Odds are 13985/2081=6.7 which becomes 6:1 odds, shifted 2*(4-3)=2 = 2 columns to right for Military Rank, 1 column to right for extra Russian supplies given to Syria; final odds 9:1

13:39, Today: Combat Cycle Ref rolled 5 using 1d10.  Bloody Damascus#3.

Results: 0% permanent to loss Attacker, 100%/5=20% permanent loss to defender

0.20 X 37 available hits = 7.4 = 7

GM chooses:
Syrian rebels: 4 Reserve Infantry are destroyed
Syrian rebels: 1 Green Mechanized Brigade (ex-Syrian Army) are destroyed


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Nagorno-Karabakh, again:

Georgian President makes statement on detentions (Tbilisi, Georgia):  “We are part of NATO now, I swear to you we can use that to get our people back” said Georgian President Mkalavishvili. This was in answer to critics about the Russian mass detention of Georgians accused of throwing stones and burning tires at the enormous Russian supply convoys on their way to prop up the brutal Syrian regime. President Mkalavishvili went on to state. “There is going to be big trouble if those damn Russians think they can get away with anything else to harm the peace of the region.”

Attacking:
Russian -unit#420-427: Elite Infantry :1: U: Sol Earth F15: Airborne
Russian -unit#428-430: Veteran Infantry :1: U: Sol Earth F15: Airborne
Russian -unit#298: Elite Bomber :4: M: Sol Earth E14
Russian -unit#299-300: Veteran Bomber :4: M: Sol Earth E14
Russian -unit#301-307: Experienced Bomber :4: M: Sol Earth E14
Russian -unit#308-309: Experienced Bomber :4: M: Sol Earth E14
Russian -unit#186: Elite Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20
Russian -unit#187, 188, 189, 190: Veteran Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20
Russian -unit#193-194: Green Mechanized : 3: M: Sol Earth H20
Russian -unit#198-204: Experienced Artillery : 3: U: Sol Earth H20
Russian -unit#191-192: Veteran Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20
Russian -unit#225-226: Veteran Mechanized : 3: M: Sol Earth H20
Russian -unit#210-213: Experienced Multi-role Plane :3: L: Sol Earth G17
Russian -unit#218-223: Experienced Multi-role Helicopter :2: L: Sol Earth G17
Armenia 2 exp mech :3: M
Armenia 2 reserve inf : 2: U
Armenia 2 exp artillery : 3: U
Armenia 1 reserve multirole plane : 3: L
Armenia 1 exp tank bde:5:H
Armenia 4 green motor inf bde:1:U
Armenia 1 green inf bde:1:U
Armenia 4 reserve inf bde:1: U
Armenia 2 veteran artillery bde:3:U
Armenia 1 green SAM:2:U
Armenia 2 reserve multirole planes:3:L
Armenia 1 reserve attack heli squad:2:M
Armenia 1 green IRBM (Scud):2:U

Mil Rank 3, Average Mil tech 8.2, Sum basic Strength 186, Final Combat Strength: 12506


Defending:
Azerbaijani  3 veteran motor inf bde:1:U
Azerbaijani  10 experienced motor inf bde:1:U
Azerbaijani  8 green motor inf bde:1:U
Azerbaijani  11 Reserve motor inf bde:1:U
Azerbaijani  2 exp artillery bde:3:U
Azerbaijani  2 exp SAMs:2:U
Azerbaijani  3 green multirole heli:2:M
Azerbaijani  1 exp multirole heli:2:M
Azerbaijani  1 exp multirole planes:3:L
Azerbaijani  2 green multirole plane:3:L
Azerbaijani  2 green patrol boat squads:1:L

Mil Rank 3, Mil tech 7.9, Sum basic Combat Strength 61,  Final Combat Strength: 3807

Odds are 12506/3807=3.29 which becomes 3:1 odds, shifted 2 to right for surprise mass airborne assault. Final odds 5:1

13:42, Today: Combat Cycle Ref rolled 6 using 1d10.  Nagorno-Karabakh, again#3.

Results: 0% permanent to loss Attacker, 100%/5=20% permanent loss to defender,

Attacker 0 loss
Defender 0.2 X 61 available hits = 12.2=12


GM chooses:
Azerbaijani : 2 experienced motor inf bde:1:U are destroyed
Azerbaijani : 4 green motor inf bde:1:U are destroyed
Azerbaijani : 4 reserve motor inf bde:1:U are destroyed
Azerbaijani  1 green multirole heli:2:M are destroyed
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A Jihad like any other:

Arrests Made in UK Chemical Attack (Bonn, Germany):  Today German authorities displayed some of the evidence gathered from the arrest of several men accused of participating in the terrorist chemical bombing of Aberdeen in 2032. German authorities praised the work of security officials across the EU whose cooperation made the arrests possible. Saying only that they still have much to learn about the Supreme Truth movement, South Korean investigators refused to comment on the presence of Baklava flavoured data engrams featured in the evidence haul.

Russia, Saudi Arabia, Germany, USA, UK attacking IC
Russia unit#437, 438, 439, 440. 441   Experienced Infantry : 1: U: Sol Earth H20, Security ability
Saudi Arabia unit# 1: green armor: 5: H: Sol Earth I22
Saudi Arabia unit# 32: green mech :Sol Earth I22
Gerrman unit# 701, 702: elite multirole plane: 3: L: Sol Earth H20
German unit# 706, 707, 708: Veteran multirole plane: Sol Earth H20
German unit# units 2, 3: Veteran Tank: 5: H : Sol Earth H20
German unit# 52: Veteran Artillery: 3: U : Sol Earth H20
UK : Veteran Bomber : 4: M: Sol Earth I21: longrange
UK: veteran Multirole plane : 3:L: Sol Earth I21
UK: elite multirole plane: 3: L: Sol Earth I21
USA 3: Veteran Multirole Plane: 3: L: Amphibious
UK:elite Inf :1: U: Sol Earth H20: stealth, airborne, amphibious
UK: elite Inf: 1: U: Sol Earth H20: stealth, airborne, amphibious
USA: Elite Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20
USA: Elite Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20: amphibious
USA: Elite Armoured :5: M: Sol Earth H20
USA: Elite Mechanized :3: M: Sol Earth H20

Mil Rank 2, Mil tech 8.2, Sum Basic Strength: 82, Final Combat Strength: 5513


Islamic Caliphate Defending:
2 Green Motorized Brigades (ex-Syrian and Iraqi units)
5 Reserve Infantry Brigades (Stealth Ability, various militia)
2 Green SAM Brigades (ex-Syrian and Iraqi units)
3 Green Infantry Brigades (ex-Syrian and Iraqi units)

Mil Rank 4, Mil tech 7.4, Sum Basic Strength: 14, Final Combat Strength: 766

Odds are 5513/766=5.9 which becomes 7:1 odds, shifted { 2*(4-2)=4 to right for difference in Military Rank, 2 to left for WMD usage and worldwide terror campaign by IC, 1 to left for Muslim world outrage due to Israeli invasion} final odds 8:1

10:39, Today: Combat Cycle Ref rolled 5 using 1d10.  A Jihad, like any other#2.

Results: 0% permanent to loss Attacker, 100%/5=20% permanent loss to defender,

0.20 X 17 available hits = 3.4 = 3

GM chooses:
Islamic Caliphate: 2 Reserve Infantry are destroyed
Islamic Caliphate: 1 Green Motorized Brigade (ex-Syrian and Iraqi units) is destroyed


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consummatum est, for combat this Turn.
Referee
GM, 89 posts
Thu 15 Oct 2015
at 04:17
  • msg #53

Re: Round 4: Things heating up, things winding down

Combat Cycle Ref:
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consummatum est, for combat this Turn.

Rounding off this turn.

Combat cycle ref announced today and end to major combat operations of turn 2030-34. Now begins mop up operations. We need to summarize and publicize what have been done.

Lluis is going through RPOL historical intervall 2030-34. Thankyou for that Lluis. I need all the rest of you players to go through your own RPOL threads (such as the followup orders threads) and copy what you think should be added to the history timeline, then mail it to me. Deadline for this is friday. After that I will put it all up so you can see it. Then you will have the weekend to add, comment, complain etc. Then the turn will be over and (if the weather holds) we will begin monday on 2035-39!
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