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Historical interval 2045-2049.

Posted by Co-GMFor group 0
Co-GM
GM, 179 posts
Mon 29 Jan 2018
at 23:54
  • msg #1

Historical interval 2045-2049

This will be the place for group discussions and notices about the 2045 Turn.
Germany
player, 360 posts
Sat 3 Feb 2018
at 00:41
  • msg #2

Historical interval 2045-2049

After a skip reading of the spreadsheets:

I see you made some changes on the budget spreadsheets. Aside from organization (that I guess I’ll make myself to it), did you delete the SU reserve or it’s me that don’t find it?

I also see some oddities:

I see most (If not all) of the oil producers have oil shortages, and most of them (Canada, Nigeria, Nordic Fed,  Russia) have a negative income due to oil, even while they are exporting it...

I see maximum space TL is set at 8.8. I know no country is now higher, but Germany researched last turn 8.9. Shouldn’t the maximum be set to it (even while no country will be this high) to represent this? Otherwise, if Germany wants to develop it it has to pay again the cutting edge bonus...

In the calculators, looking at the interface available one, I’m afraid you forgot to subtract 5 to the TL to apply the formula, as it says me that a single TL 8.8 rocket has a capacity of 9680 (not that I'd complain...).

Sure some more to come as I look at them more throughtly...
Germany
player, 361 posts
Sat 3 Feb 2018
at 18:41
  • msg #3

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In reply to Germany (msg # 2):

Again about the interface calculator (but needs not t be fixed this turn, as it would have no effect right now): the multiplier for Catapult is set at 20000, while the rules say 200000.
USA
player, 69 posts
Sat 3 Feb 2018
at 20:00
  • msg #4

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In reply to Germany (msg # 3):

Bug report from me too: On oil I suspect their is something wrong with the calculation somewhere as selecting the golden option for the USA costs around $120 - which is pretty obviously wrong.
Germany
player, 362 posts
Sat 3 Feb 2018
at 22:03
  • msg #5

Re: Historical interval 2045-2049

USA:
In reply to Germany (msg # 3):

Bug report from me too: On oil I suspect their is something wrong with the calculation somewhere as selecting the golden option for the USA costs around $120 - which is pretty obviously wrong.


Not necessarily...

Applying option 8 multiplies by 5 the price of imported oil, but at the same time it solves the shortages that also cost money, and there's a point where applying option 8 may even give money to you, if the losses due to shortages are higher than the increased Price for imported oil.

I cannot open the spreadseets right now, but I guess in hte case of the US the shortages are this close of the increased cost for the SRUs bought...
USA
player, 70 posts
Mon 5 Feb 2018
at 14:29
  • msg #6

Re: Historical interval 2045-2049

In reply to Germany (msg # 5):

The United State would like to express mounting worry about the continuing oil shortages around the world - why have producers, at the first sign of prices returning to normal, restricted supply so harshly?

The knock on effect to global trade and stability is frightening, the continued shortages threaten the security of all nations - this situation needs to be addressed and the oil producing nations need to look at how to resolve this.

International Oil markets can no longer be run in the manner of a Cartel.
Saudi Arabia
player, 40 posts
Mon 5 Feb 2018
at 18:45
  • msg #7

Re: Historical interval 2045-2049

Ther have been years of warning about oil being a scarce and limited product, and reducing its avilability should make it last for longer and incentivate the ressearch for other power sources.

You must begin to accept the developed economies cannot be so dependant on oil for too long, or will be fully stopped when we run off of it, and if the situation now seems so bad to you, then it will be desesperate.

Saudi Arabia (and we hope OPEC at large) will try to keep prices stable, but that does not mean too low, as the reserves sould laast and other power sources should be developed for the world to be ready when shortages become more accute yet.
Co-GM
GM, 181 posts
Tue 6 Feb 2018
at 03:46
  • msg #8

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In reply to Germany (msg # 2):

>did you delete the SU reserve or it’s me that don’t find it?
See the Blank order file. As I had said before, keeping track of SU is now the player's, not the GM's, responsibility.

>the oil producers have oil shortages, and most of them (Canada, Nigeria, Nordic
>Fed,  Russia) have a negative income due to oil, even while they are exporting it...

See section 4.5.1 paragraph#2

Something that will get changed by next turn is taking out the words "...for Earth". A product of the way of old thinking of not caring about things outside of Earth.

I see maximum space TL is set at 8.8. I know no country is now higher, but Germany researched last turn 8.9. S
Good point, will fix for the affected nations, which fortunately is not many.

You are correct about the uplift/downlift formulas being wrong in the calculators. Fortunately, it is not that important and fixing the sheet can wait until next turn.
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