This will be the place for group discussions, combat, and notices about the 2075 Turn.

In 2075, Russia will celebrate the centenary of the joint experimental flight of the USSR and the United States under the Soyuz-Apollo program in 1975.

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War Round#1
-Argentina moves to War Footing against Brazilian invasion.
-Japan moves construction of its new colony, Ōshan'u-erusu to hex Earth-3N33, abandoning anything it must at the original site of Earth-3N32
-Australia moves to War Footing against Chinese aggression.
-Korea begins preparation of mass Emergency Preparedness in case of attack
-China begins preparations for war.
-Korea attempts to go to War Footing, fails.
-Brazil attempts to go to War Footing, fails.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:47, Thu 29 Apr 2021.

That took a lot longer than I expected! Sorry about that. Even after I returned I was overloaded with many different things and then another trip happened. You can thank Sergey for finally getting me to get it done, he threatened to not continue to talk to me about my favorite subject of international relations and Star Wars, so I skittered over to a nearby hippy commune to finish up working on the first War Round of 2075. Nice people, but if you are not into eating a steady diet of beans then it is a great place to find the focus to get things done.

So, to our story! After rising tensions and troop movements, Brazilian forces break upon the Argentinean frontier like a tropical thunderstorm. Brazilian ground troops begin fighting their way to Buenos Aires while Brazilian bombers strike deep to neutralize Argentine reinforcements. Meanwhile, seeking to shed Chinese harassment, Japanese undersea colonizers and construction fleets move to new positions in the ocean a thousand kilometers to the East, abandoning what they cannot tow; Chinese military vessels follow them ….


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Brazil invades Argentina
Brazil has a 1 column shift initiative advantage for all combat rolls
Argentina will use a -2 to the combat roll initiative advantage for this combat roll

Referee decides to split this combat into two rolls. Attack with Brazil group B will occur first, then Brazil group A.

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Brazil force B attacks Argentina hex 6S9
Brazil unit#:062, 098, 099, 100, 101
-Brazil unit#62 cannot participate as it does not have the range
Brazil total Attack is 6930

Argentina unit #003, 006
Argentina total Defence is 454

Odds are 6930/454 = 15.26 which becomes >10:1 odds, shifted to >10:1 odds
Roll is 9, shifted to 7, result is 0% damage to attacker, 100% damage to the defender.
Argentina: Unit#6 is destroyed.


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Brazil force A attacks Argentina hex 4S13
Brazil unit#:001, 070, 089, 090, 092, 096
Brazil total Attack is 4131

Argentina unit #001, 011, 023
-Argentina units#011 and 023 have insufficient cover from Ground units and fight at 1/5 strength.
Argentina total Defence is 1840

Odds are 4131/1840 = 2.24 which becomes 2:1 odds, shifted to 3:1 odds
Roll is 5, shifted to 3, result is 20% damage to attacker, 40% damage to the defender.
Argentina: Unit#11 is destroyed.
Brazil: Units#89, 90, and 96 are damaged

Your orders for War Round#2 are due July 19 1200 UTC. After that time I will be on yet another trip and may have limited availability until August 5th.

At this time, the Referee has no knowledge of any additional combat occurring other than the expected ongoing combat between Brazil and Argentina.

Our story continues! While Brazilian ground troops pause to regroup, Brazilian bombers continue to strike deep to neutralize Argentine reinforcements. Argentine forces however are undeterred and manage a counterattack. Meanwhile, Japanese undersea colonizers and construction fleets in the middle of the Pacific watch as military units from many nations assemble on the doorstep of their new, NEW homes ….

There has been a slight change/correction to how things are done: For newly built units (and there are a lot of them!) I had been listing them as ‘Damaged’ status, but I see now that this was clearly in error. I have altered the Unit Listings spreadsheet to have new units start with Reserve Quality Level but have it noted in which Round they will be elevated to their final Quality Level. I know this differs somewhat from what I had said to several people, but I am going to have to be harsh about this, there are too many other things that would fall apart if I let the old way stand.

Your orders for War Round#3 are due August 19, 2021 at 1200 UTC. Yes, this is less time than I had previously been giving, but I have recently improved and fixed many of my internal procedures, figuring out combat is no longer the slog that it used to be, so I am eager to get on with the turn.

At this time, the Referee has no knowledge of any additional combat occurring other than the expected ongoing combat between Brazil and Argentina.
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Rumble in the Jungle
Brazil has a 1 column shift initiative advantage for all combat rolls

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Brazil force Z attacks Argentina hex 5S11
Brazil unit#0098, #0099 and #0100
     -Brazil unit#100 cannot participate as it is moving
Brazil total Attack is 4950
Brazil will use a +2 to the combat roll initiative advantage for this combat roll

Argentina unit #0029,#0030,#0032,#0033,#0035,#0036,#0037,#0038,#0039,#0040,#0041,#0042, #0043,#0044,#0045,#0046,#0047,#0048,#0049,#0050,#0051,#0052,#0057
Argentina total Defence is 1349

Odds are 4950 = 1349 which becomes 3:1 odds, shifted for the Initiative Advantage to 4:1 odds
Roll is 3, add 2 for the Initiative Advantage, total 5 result is 20% damage to attacker, 100% damage to the defender.
Argentina: Unit#038 and 039 are destroyed.


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Brazil force Y attacks Argentina hex 6S9
Brazil unit#0101
    -Brazil unit#101 cannot participate as it is moving
No attack occurs, as there are no available attacking units


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Argentina force G attacks Brazil hex 4S13
Argentina unit #0001, #0003, #0019, #0023, #0035, #0036, #0037
     -Argentina units#0035, #0036, #0037 are Reserve QL and may not attack.
Argentina total Attack is 17095
Argentina will use a +2 to the combat roll initiative advantage for this combat roll

Brazil unit#0001,#0027,#0028,#0029,#0055,#0060,#0062,#0070,#0077,#0089,#0090,#0092,#0095,
#0096,#0098,#0099
Brazil total Defence is 12401

Odds are 17095/12401 = 1.38 which becomes 1:1 odds
Roll is 6, shifted to 8, result is 20% damage to attacker, 40% damage to the defender.
Argentina: Unit#003 and #019 are Damaged.
Brazil: Units#001, 070 and 095 are Damaged
Brazil: Units#077, 089, 090 and 096 are Destroyed

Our story finally moves on! Returning from my latest trip, to my great surprise I have found not one, but two Italian wines that I like and the Brazilian invasion of Argentina has slowed down to static trench warfare. No attacks occurred in in War Round#3 as both sides seemed to wait for reinforcements to arrive. Still, the Brazilian-Argentinian 'Rumble in the Jungle' begins to spread as Chile has declared war against Argentina and begins mobilizing, and the people of Venezuela become increasingly restive against their Brazilian aligned government. Meanwhile, a large Australian naval force is now almost within sight of the Chinese warships harassing the fledgling Japanese undersea colony of Ōshan'u-erusu ….

Your orders for War Round#4 are due September 25, 2021 at 1200 UTC. As there was no combat in War Round#3, players are warned that War Round#4 will be the last War Round for the Turn and the Turn will be considered over and we will begin preparations for Turn 2080 UNLESS there is some combat in War Round#4. At this time, the Referee has no knowledge of any combat occurring in War Round#4, a Chilean attack or Venezuelan revolt will not happen until War Round#5, if there is one and is cancelled if not.

Effective immediately, there has been a change to the wording in section 10.5 of the rules. A remnant wording from an earlier time had stated that combat is broken into different combats for differing unit types instead of the per hex basis that actually happens. The battles happening this turn have been an effective test of our combat system, many problems have been uncovered and will be fixed in the next version of the rules to be published before the next Turn, but I felt that it was important to implement the above change immediately since it could significantly influence player's decision making.

Our story marches on as furious fighting resumes on the South American front! The Brazilian main attack is blunted by a resolute Argentinian defence, but the vainglorious Argentine counterattack unsurprisingly fails with heavy losses as the conflict begins to spread seeing Chile entering the fray looking for revenge against Argentina and Brazilian troops find themselves embroiled in a brewing revolt in Venezuela. Meanwhile, in the Pacific, the first shots are fired in what could be a much larger war.

Your orders for War Round#5 are due Oct 20, 2021 at 1200 UTC.

Your Referee has decreed that this upcoming War Round #5 will be the last War Round of the 2075 Turn and after it we will then move onto the 2080 Turn. The battles this Turn have been a successful test of our combat system, many gaps and shortcomings have been exposed but the accumulating errors and arbitrary fixes are making progress unnecessarily slow and difficult. If we are truly to handle a real war then we will need to have the lengthy list of updates and fixes that the new 2080 rulesset has.


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Crossing Lines
Australia  attacks China hex 3N33
Australia unit#0070 #0078
Australia total Attack is 722

China unit #0089
China total Defence is 1587

Odds are 722 / 1587 = 0.495 which becomes 1:3 odds, shifted 1 column to the right per Referee decree based on Chinese orders to 1:2 odds
Roll is 3, result is 100% damage to attacker, 0% damage to the defender. Damage to Australian units reduced by 40% per Referee decree based on Chinese orders
Australia : Units 78 is damaged.
China : No units damaged.


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Rumble in the Jungle


Brazil force D, H, M attacks Argentina hex 4S13
Brazil unit#0001 #0027 #0028 #0029 #0055 #0060 #0062 #0070 #0092 #0094 #0095 #0098 #0099 #0117 #0118 #0119 #0120 #0121 #0137 #0138 #0139 #0140 #0141
     -Brazil unit#55, 60 cannot participate as they are SAM units
Brazil total Attack is 26857
Brazil will use a 2X (+2 to the combat roll initiative advantage for this combat roll) for a total change of +4
Brazil has a 1 column shift initiative advantage for all combat rolls

Argentina unit #0001, #0003, #0019, #0030, #0040, #0041, #0044, #0045, #0046, #0049, #0050, #0035, #0036, #0037
Argentina total Defence is 23402

Odds are 26857/23402 = 1.14 which becomes 1:1 odds, shifted for the Initiative Advantage to 1.5:1 odds
Roll is 4, add 4 for the Initiative Advantage, total 8 result is 20% damage to attacker, 60% damage to the defender.
Argentina: Units 1,3,30,40,44 are damaged in the attack by Brazil. They are in Friendly Territory and are repaired at the end of War Round#4.
Brazil: Units 70,27,117, 120, 141 are damaged in the attack and are in enemy territory i.e. they may not be repaired at this time.

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Argentina force B, C, G, N, H attacks Brazil hex 4S13
Argentina unit #0001 #0003 #0019 #0023 #0030 #0032 #0035 #0036 #0037 #0040 #0041 #0042 #0043 #0049 #0050 #0051 #0052 #0057
     -Argentina units#0001, 0003, 0030, 0040, and 0057 are damaged or Reserve QL and may not attack.
Argentina total Attack is 14352


Brazil unit#0001 #0027 #0028 #0029 #0055 #0060 #0062 #0070 #0092 #0094 #0095 #0098 #0099 #0117 #0118 #0119 #0120 #0121 #0137 #0138 #0139 #0140 #0141 #0157 #0158 #0159 #0160 #0161
Brazil total Defence is 39052

Odds are 14352/39052 = 0.36 which becomes 1:3 odds
Roll is 8, result is 80% damage to attacker, 20% damage to the defender.
Argentina: Unit#0032, 0039, 0050, 0051, 0052 are Damaged. They are in Friendly Territory and are repaired at the end of War Round#4.
Brazil: Units#001, 070, 095, 160, 161 are Damaged in the attack and are in enemy territory i.e. they may not be repaired at this time.

In reply to Referee (msg # 8):

Japan has declared a no-China zone over, on and under the Pacific (see announcement in the international forum for details). We've given them a window to withdraw but after that it's weapons free.

Wow, that was a lot of work! My notes for this Round go on for 12 pages!

War Round#5
Like seeds from an opening flower, luminescent saplings of War begin to sprout around the world. In South America the hammer falls; like a swarm of locusts, Brazilian aircraft darken the skies; like a horde of Ants, Brazilian soldiers carpet the jungle floor. Against them the Argentine defence is already sputtering … will the Argentinians hold, or be swept away? The World wonders! Meanwhile, in the Pacific, Australia and its allies open up with their full furry, but are unable to dislodge the Chinese hold. Consequently, with the failure of the alliance forces to stop the Chinese from disrupting construction, the exciting new Japanese ocean adventure Ōshan'u-erusu collapses.

Brazil PA to extend the conflict. Failure with Major Mishap. The attempt to speed up the pace of the combat to reach objectives sooner fails badly. A penalty column shift to all rolls this Round will be applied.

War Round #5 was the last War Round of the 2075 Turn. The battles this Turn have been a successful test of our combat system, many gaps and shortcomings have been exposed but the accumulating errors and arbitrary fixes are making progress unnecessarily slow and difficult. If we are truly to handle a real war then we will need to have the lengthy list of updates and fixes that the new 2080 rulesset has. The most consequential changes are to the rules regarding Initiative and Air units as well as finally closing a long standing problem that any level of armour could render a small force almost invulnerable, so read the new rules closely. As always the rules changes are summarized in section 11.1, which for this version is unusually lengthy, but the specific changes can be seen in green font on the document
https://docs.google.com/docume...LDNQ7rtrlPcfcBCppHJc

Looking through the turn there is a trend which I have tried to fight but is still ongoing so I will have to be more clear: Orders with some sort of conditional, e.g. If X occurs then do action Y, in them are not allowed. Yes, I know that REALISTICALLY they would occur, our time scale is years, plenty of time to adapt, but they cause chaos with our procedures and rules ...even if I had the time to figure out the dynamics of competing player decision tree matrices. So no conditional orders. What we are playing is a game, not a simulation, having to take risks is part of the fun of the game. So take chances, be decisive, everyone is in the same situation.

 Over the coming weeks I will be releasing the results of things like the non-combat related Political Actions by players. When that is done you will have a two-week period to submit any final orders and then we will officially be closing the 2075 Turn and moving onto the 2080 Turn.

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Crossing Lines

Australia and Allies attack China hex 3N33
Australia unit #0064, #0065, #0070, #0071, #0072, #0073, #0079, #0080, #0081
United Kingdom units #0021, #0022, #0025, #0026
Canada units #0001, #0022
USA units #0067, #0068

Australia total Attack is 22469
Australia will use 1x a die roll change by 2 in its favour Initiative Advantage.

China unit #0089
China total Defence is 1587

Odds are 22469 / 1587 = 14.158 which becomes >10:1 odds
Roll is 3, shifted to 5, result is 0% damage to attacker, 100% damage to the defender.
Australia : No units damaged.
China : No units damaged.


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Rumble in the Jungle

Rumble in the Jungle, Part Ai.
Chilean force of 2 groups of 5 Basic Combat Strength each will attack Argentina hex 4S12
Chile Attack total is: 328
Chile has a +1 column shift Initiative Advantage for all combat rolls, -1 column shift penalty for all combat rolls this War Round.

Argentina unit #0034. Units 0023, 0035, 0036, 0037 will react in support
Argentina Defence total is: 30361

Odds are 328/30361 = 0.0108,  <1:10 odds
Roll is 8, result is 100% damage to attacker, 0% damage to the defender.
Chile: 1 group Damaged.
Argentina: No damage.


Rumble in the Jungle, Part Aii.
Argentina attacks Chile in hex 4S12
Argentina unit #0034
Argentina Attack total is: 492

Chilean force of 2 groups of 5 Basic Combat Strength each, 1 is damaged
Chile has a +1 column shift Initiative Advantage for all combat rolls, -1 column shift penalty for all combat rolls this War Round.
Chile Defence total is: 211

Odds are 492/211 = 2.33, which becomes 2:1 odds
Roll is 3, result is 40% damage to attacker, 20% damage to the defender.
Argentina: No damage.
Chile: 1 Damaged group is Destroyed


Rumble in the Jungle, Part Aiii.
Argentina attacks Chile in hex 5S11
Argentina unit #0023, #0029, #0033, #0035, #0036, #0037, #0053, #0054
Argentina Attack total is: 12942

Chilean force of 5 groups of 5 Basic Combat Strength each
Chile has a +1 column shift Initiative Advantage for all combat rolls, -1 column shift penalty for all combat rolls this War Round.
Chile Defence total is: 800

Odds are 12942/800 = 16.177, which becomes >10:1 odds
Roll is 7, result is 0% damage to attacker, 100% damage to the defender.
Argentina: No damage.
Chile: 4 groups are Damaged


Rumble in the Jungle, Part Aiv.
Argentina attacks Chile in hex 6S9
Argentina unit #0055, #0056
Argentina Attack total is: 792

Chilean force of 2 groups of 5 Basic Combat Strength each
Chile has a +1 column shift Initiative Advantage for all combat rolls, -1 column shift penalty for all combat rolls this War Round.
Chile Defence total is: 320

Odds are 792/320 = 2.477, which becomes 2:1 odds
Roll is 7, result is 20% damage to attacker, 100% damage to the defender.
Argentina: No damage.
Chile: 1 groups are Damaged


Rumble in the Jungle, Part Av.
Argentina attacks Chile in hex 7S7
Argentina unit #0031
Argentina Attack total is: 1188

Chilean force of 2 groups of 5 Basic Combat Strength each
Chile has a +1 column shift Initiative Advantage for all combat rolls, -1 column shift penalty for all combat rolls this War Round.
Chile Defence total is: 320

Odds are 1188/320 = 3.7125, which becomes 3:1 odds
Roll is 10, result is 0% damage to attacker, 100% damage to the defender.
Argentina: No damage.
Chile: 1 groups are Damaged


Rumble in the Jungle, Part Bi.
Brazil attacks Argentina in hex 7S7
Brazil unit #0099
Brazil Attack total is: 3960
Brazil has a +1 column shift Initiative Advantage for all combat rolls, -1 column shift penalty for all combat rolls this War Round.

Argentina unit #0031
Argentina Defence total is: 297

Odds are 3960/297 = 13.33, which becomes >10:1 odds
Roll is 2, result is 10% damage to attacker, 100% damage to the defender.
Brazil : No damage
Argentina: No damage.


Rumble in the Jungle, Part Bii.
Brazil attacks Argentina in hex 6S9
Brazil unit #0145
Brazil Attack total is: 1980
Brazil has a +1 column shift Initiative Advantage for all combat rolls, -1 column shift penalty for all combat rolls this War Round.

Argentina unit #0055, #0056
Argentina Defence total is: 198

Odds are 1980/198 = 19, which becomes 10:1 odds
Roll is 5, result is 0% damage to attacker, 100% damage to the defender.
Brazil : No damage
Argentina: Units #0055, #0056 are Damaged


Rumble in the Jungle, Part Biii.
Brazil attacks Argentina in hex 4S12
Brazil unit #0146
Brazil Attack total is: 1980
Brazil has a +1 column shift Initiative Advantage for all combat rolls, -1 column shift penalty for all combat rolls this War Round.

Argentina unit #0034
Argentina Defence total is: 148

Odds are 1980/148 = 13.37, which becomes >10:1 odds
Roll is 5, result is 0% damage to attacker, 100% damage to the defender.
Brazil : No damage
Argentina: Units #0034 are Damaged


Rumble in the Jungle, Part Biv.
Brazil attacks Argentina in hex 5S11
Brazil unit #0152, #0153, #0154, #0155, #0156, #0162, #0163, #0164, #0165, #0166, #0172, #0173, #0174, #0175, #0176
Brazil Attack total is: 29700
Brazil has a +1 column shift Initiative Advantage for all combat rolls, -1 column shift penalty for all combat rolls this War Round.

Argentina unit #0023, #0029, #0033, #0035, #0036, #0037, #0047, #0048, #0053, #0054
Argentina Defence total is: 2740

Odds are 29700/2740 = 1.83, which becomes 10:1 odds
Roll is 3, result is 10% damage to attacker, 100% damage to the defender.
Brazil : Units #0152 are Damaged
Argentina: Units #0023, #0047 are Damaged


Rumble in the Jungle, Part Bv.
Brazil attacks Argentina in hex 4S13
Brazil unit #0028, #0029, #0062, #0092,  #0094, #0098, #0100, #0101, #0102,#0103, #0104, #0105, #0106, #0107, #0108, #0109, #0110, #0111, #0112, #0113, #0114, #0115, #0116, #0122, #0123, #0124, #0125, #0126, #0127, #0128, #0129, #0130, #0131, #0132, #0133, #0134, #0135, #0136, #0142, #0143, #0147, #0148, #0149, #0150, #0151

Brazil Attack total is: 58608
Brazil has a +1 column shift Initiative Advantage for all combat rolls, -1 column shift penalty for all combat rolls this War Round.

Argentina unit #0001, #0003, #0019, #0030, #0032, #0040, #0041, #0042, #0043, #0044, #0045, #0046, #0049, #0050, #0051
Argentina Defence total is: 24491

Odds are 58608 / 24491 = 2.39, which becomes 2:1 odds
Roll is 4, result is 20% damage to attacker, 40% damage to the defender.
Brazil : Units #0111, #0127, #0151, #0062 are Damaged
Argentina: Units #0001, #0057, #0049, #0050 are Damaged



Post Combat
Brazil: Repairs unit#0062. Units #0111, #0127, #0151 are damaged in the attack and are in enemy territory i.e. they may not be repaired at this time.
Argentina repairs Units #0001, #0057 and is then out of supplies.
No Argentinian units are able to be resupplied post combat, so all take an additional step of Damaged. This destroys units #0023, #0034, #0047, #0049, #0050, #0055, and #0056

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The Revolution will be Televised

Venezuelan Rebels choose to not attack.

Brazil and Venezuelan Government do not attack.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:37, Sun 14 Nov 2021.

In reply to Referee (msg # 10):

How can a defender take 100% damage without any units being damaged?

This occurs in Crossing Lines and Rumble in the Jungle, Part Bi.

In reply to Canada (msg # 11):

It is to do with what I said in the previous post "...as well as finally closing a long standing problem that any level of armour could render a small force almost invulnerable, ". The damage table (currently!) only goes to 100% hits of all of the defender's units are applied to the defending units, and it takes 100% of hits to reduce a unit to Damaged status ...however...armour reduces those hits by a % ... for a big force this is not a problem, there are enough hits generating that I can apply enough hits to damage some units ...but for a small force i.e. one armoured unit, that is mathematically impossible.

It is for good reason that I have been pushing moving to the new rulesset.