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Hell in a Handbasket.

Posted by rogue4jcFor group 0
rogue4jc
GM, 143 posts
Sat 3 Jul 2004
at 03:44
  • msg #1

Hell in a Handbasket

Magicofrealm:
Will ALL non-Christians, including those that remain entirely faithfull and good to their own religion, go to hell?

Well, tough question. Since to answer it with truth, means we can speak for God. And it says God is all forgiving. But God also says any sin makes you too sinfull to be in the presence of God. But Jesus died on the cross for our sins. The forgiveness of those sins are complete and 100%. So many factors, so many ways to think which affects the other.
I think it comes down to God  making the right decision, as opposed to me making a decision. God can make a perfect choice, while I am limited by my sinfull nature, combined with my emotions, which make me biased. Trust God to make the right decision.
This message was lightly edited by the GM at 01:36, Mon 05 Dec 2005.
magicofrealm
player, 5 posts
Sat 3 Jul 2004
at 03:50
  • msg #2

Re: Will ALL non-Christians go to hell?

*nodnod* The reason why I asked is because I recently inspired a riot-thing at work because this one kid says I'm going to hell, and someone else stood up for me, and they started to fight about it. It seems (this is an outsider looking in) to be a topic of "hot-potato" as I call it; that is to say, some people don't want to touch it, while others bite right into it and get burned (because they are staunchily for only one end)
Marok
player, 45 posts
Sat 3 Jul 2004
at 03:54
  • msg #3

Re: Will ALL non-Christians go to hell?

Not to put a damper on a subject that I do find interesting, but do you think this thread could have the name changed?  It kind of makes 2 assumptions: first, that the christians are in fact right in their belief; and second, that there must be some sort of hell (a belief that most sects of judaism don't actually have).
magicofrealm
player, 6 posts
Sat 3 Jul 2004
at 03:58
  • msg #4

Re: Will ALL non-Christians go to hell?

Intrestingly enough, Judaism DOES believe in hell, just not in the same context others do. It was a place where people who would steal children and then sacrificed them lived. Of course, these people burned the children as well. I learned that from an orthodox Rabbai who taught my Mishna and T'nach classes in middle school.
Marok
player, 47 posts
Sat 3 Jul 2004
at 04:03
  • msg #5

Re: Will ALL non-Christians go to hell?

Really?  Do you happen to know of the applicable passages for that?  The way I was taught, since we do not believe in an adversarial relationship between God and a figure of evil (the devil is actually more of a devil's advocate, for lack of a better ironic term), we don't actually have a place of punishment.  That's what limbo was supposed to be for
magicofrealm
player, 7 posts
Sat 3 Jul 2004
at 04:21
  • msg #6

Re: Will ALL non-Christians go to hell?

*shrug* I never said it was a place of punishment. That was just what it was called. You don't "go" there when you die, it was just a point of intrest. ^^
rogue4jc
GM, 146 posts
Sat 3 Jul 2004
at 04:28
  • msg #7

Re: Will ALL non-Christians go to hell?

I don't feel the name is a problem. It is written to a christian perspective. And considering the Christian punishment is considered hell, it really shouldn't be any different than a muslim saying I'm going to hell, and yet I'm firmly in the belief that he wouldn't know. The case being perspective. The name, and question is perspective driven.
pass
player, 21 posts
JG
NOT JC
Sat 3 Jul 2004
at 19:45
  • msg #8

Re: Will ALL non-Christians go to hell?

Magicofrealm:
Will ALL non-Christians, including those that remain entirely faithfull and good to their own religion, go to hell?

No. I mean, why? This question is based entirely on the assumption that christianity is the right, true, religion, maybe the only religion that should be. Me, as a Jew, can ask the same just for non-Jewish people.
magicofrealm
player, 13 posts
Sat 3 Jul 2004
at 20:01
  • msg #9

Re: Will ALL non-Christians go to hell?

I meant, when I asked it, in the Christian beliefs. I thought that was obvious, seeing as how I'm jewish as well.
Elfear
player, 52 posts
Mon 5 Jul 2004
at 04:55
  • msg #10

Re: Will ALL non-Christians go to hell?

I encourage everyone to think on this question as they read their Bibles.  Preferably the New Testament where Christ says 'No one comes to the Father except through Me.'

I encourage people to think on it, but I strongly suggest that no one go insane over it.  If you believe that the Bible says non-Christians are going to hell, then you believe that, and you had better make sure the Bible says it.  If you don't believe this, but believe the Bible, you had better make sure it does not say it.

If you don't believe in Biblical authority, then it can never be decided on in your mind fully, and this is what is likely to make you lose your marbles.
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