Tycho:
As for how long it would prevent it, I guess until these companies get all their assets locked up in questionable debt again.
That's precisely the question, plus the comments above about how taxpayers would be assuming the risks and bankers taking the profit. If anything, a complete bail-out would ENCOURAGE a future spiral because it encourages risky practices.
Another economic theory is that free markets (which we haven't enjoyed for almost a century now) have natural rises and falls. The falls are necessary to clear out the bad debt and companies and make space for new growth. We've basically artificially maintained growth since the 80s. Even the dot com bust was partially mitigated by artificial market manipulation. So some people are of the opinion that an eventual crash is inevitable, and the sooner we get it done with, the better we'll be (since there will be less bad debt to get rid of). Whether they're right, that a dip is inevitable, so let's get it out of the way, or the contrary view that with appropriate manipulation we can keep constant growth is correct, is a matter of significant debate. Ron Paul is very clearly in the former party.
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One thing I'm not entirely sure on is why everyone is convinced it has to happen right now! Seems like this is the kind of thing where taking the time to do it right would be a good idea, but those in favor seem to want it now, now, now!
I think the theory is that it's like a self-feeding death spiral. Banks A, B, C and D all have debts with each other, and all have a certain amount of bad debts. A goes under. Now B, C and D all have more bad debt, because their debts from A have gone bad. This makes it tougher to survive, perhaps forcing B to go under. Now C and D are in an even worse place. We're seeing that right now as a chain reaction, starting with Countrywide (or perhaps earlier) is toppling bigger and bigger lenders. If you nick it in the bud early, by buying out A, that reduces stress on B, C and D preventing further damage. If you wait until D is the only one left standing, you're already in a depression and there's not much you can do.
However, it's correct that rushing politicians dealing with huge numbers is a guarantee for waste and fraud, and we're seeing that right now. I'm not too keen on that either.
The Cato Institute seems to be supporting the idea of individualized bail-outs on a case-by-case basis, which seems most logical. A collapses, the government decides they aren't worth saving, and lets them go. B collapses and the gov't recognizes C and D own substantial portions, and so chooses to keep B up with conditions specially made for their situation. I personally am coming to like this because it encourages a case-by-case examination, decreases fraud (at least a little), and softens the downward curve without eliminating it. (The Cato institute leans Libertarian, although not nearly as much as Ron Paul.)