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US Politics II--return of the shouting (HOT)

Posted by TychoFor group 0
Tycho
GM, 3032 posts
Sun 18 Jul 2010
at 17:23
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US Politics II--return of the shouting (HOT)

The other thread was reaching it's limit, so I'm opening this one to make room.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:05, Mon 27 Sept 2010.
Kathulos
player, 27 posts
Mon 19 Jul 2010
at 00:06
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Re: US Politics II--return of the shouting

Anybody miss Richard Nixon?
Sciencemile
GM, 1358 posts
Opinion is the default
for most everything I say
Mon 19 Jul 2010
at 00:33
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Re: US Politics II--return of the shouting

Nope.
Falkus
player, 1091 posts
Thu 9 Sep 2010
at 16:41
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Re: US Politics II--return of the shouting

http://www.amplifyyourvoice.or...rdering-GLBTQ-people

Once again, I'm at a loss for words.
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silveroak
player, 675 posts
Thu 9 Sep 2010
at 19:15
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Re: US Politics II--return of the shouting

The person Randvall was talking to was clearly a bigot but it could well be that randvall himself was momentarilly clueless and didn't catch the reference.
Sciencemile
GM, 1434 posts
Opinion is the default
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Thu 9 Sep 2010
at 22:00
  • msg #6

Re: US Politics II--return of the shouting

What's the Q stand for? I've never seen that in the Acronym before.
silveroak
player, 677 posts
Fri 10 Sep 2010
at 00:01
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Re: US Politics II--return of the shouting

At a guess queer. Though that might seem redundant with Gay Lesbian Bisexual transgendered already covered...
Heath
GM, 4647 posts
Affiliation: LDS
Occupation: Attorney
Fri 10 Sep 2010
at 23:21
  • msg #8

Re: US Politics II--return of the shouting

Keep in mind there's no such thing as a "Tea Party President" or "Tea Party Representative."  It's a movement with many flavors and anyone can start up a tea party and claim to be president, no matter how stupid or biased they are.

For example, a person can claim to be a "President of the Gay Alliance," but that doesn't mean they actually speak on behalf of gays or are even part of any nationally recognized group of homosexuals.

This underscores the need to actually have one collective official group, rather than a million groups around the nation who can say whatever they want and have it attributed to "Tea Partiers."
Sciencemile
GM, 1435 posts
Opinion is the default
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Fri 10 Sep 2010
at 23:52
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Re: US Politics II--return of the shouting


Anybody can call themselves president of the Nazi party doesn't mean that somewhere, somehow the really nice Nazis are being drowned out by imitators.

It seems as if only stupid or biased people count themselves as members from all I've seen.

Except the leaders, they seem to be very smart; they have great practical knowledge of psychology, anyways.

Is it wrong to assume something about the message of a movement based on the sorts of people that movement attracts?
silveroak
player, 678 posts
Sat 11 Sep 2010
at 00:29
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Re: US Politics II--return of the shouting

Just for a point of contrast- hypothetically anyone can call themselves an Imam, and Islam is a somewhat reviled and misunderstood group in the US. Yes moderate Imam's still manage to get into teh occasional news program.
Anyone can call themselves the leader of a tea party movement, they claim to be misunderstood and portrayed negatively, yet somehow the moderate tea partiers never seem to make the news or any media- the closest anyone gets is those complaining about how misunderstood tehy are without actually decrying the people who were recorded making them seem that way.
If the tea parties are really misunderstod where are the more moderate platforms from the more moderate tea partiers?
Sciencemile
GM, 1436 posts
Opinion is the default
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Sat 11 Sep 2010
at 00:37
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Re: US Politics II--return of the shouting

Although I will look into any "Moderate Tea Party" link that you can provide, if there are any, since I'm not going to criticize their inability to get on the big news; I have a hankering of how that sort of Media works.

My criticism would be, however, that they continue to use such a name despite it being both a fresh concept and having such negative connotations.

The name isn't Sacred, it just doesn't make sense to cling to it if your ideas would otherwise seem legitimate and reasonable.
silveroak
player, 679 posts
Sat 11 Sep 2010
at 11:27
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Re: US Politics II--return of the shouting

Well it does have the advantage of numbrs and if you somehow believed you might be able to organize them into a cohesive group behind your ideas, possibly believing the hype about how misrepresented the average tea partier is...
this is a group that started out as largely disaffected Republicans who believed they were not being represented by the Republican party so the whole 'you aren't representing us' claim is almost a part of the sub culture.
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