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The Virgin Birth.

Posted by HeathFor group 0
Heath
GM, 5151 posts
Fri 21 Feb 2014
at 00:34
  • msg #1

The Virgin Birth

Because it came up in another thread...

Was Jesus born of a virgin?  Was Mary a virgin when Jesus was conceived?

If that is the argument, is that really the accurate translation of the New Testament, or is "virgin" a mistranslation?
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:34, Fri 21 Feb 2014.
TheMonk
player, 5 posts
Fri 21 Feb 2014
at 02:14
  • msg #2

Re: The Virgin Birth

Is there a particular word in question? (almah?)

Are Luke and Matthew the only ones to discuss Jesus' birth? How does Isaiah effect this?

I'm not really sure I understand how to interpret this at the moment, but I'm very curious as to how this plays out.

For the record, though, I don't think that being impregnated on account of the Holy Spirit or by the power of god has any need to mean that she gave birth as a virgin.
Kathulos
player, 247 posts
Fri 21 Feb 2014
at 03:04
  • msg #3

Re: The Virgin Birth

TheMonk:
Is there a particular word in question? (almah?)

Are Luke and Matthew the only ones to discuss Jesus' birth? How does Isaiah effect this?

I'm not really sure I understand how to interpret this at the moment, but I'm very curious as to how this plays out.

For the record, though, I don't think that being impregnated on account of the Holy Spirit or by the power of god has any need to mean that she gave birth as a virgin.


Why not? Even animals have off spring through having sex. There's nothing special about that.
TheMonk
player, 7 posts
Fri 21 Feb 2014
at 03:13
  • msg #4

Re: The Virgin Birth

Let's say that, in order to impregnate Mary, there needs to be a physical presence that negates her virginity... that'd be possible without removing the potential for divine impregnation.
Kathulos
player, 248 posts
Fri 21 Feb 2014
at 03:32
  • msg #5

Re: The Virgin Birth

TheMonk:
Let's say that, in order to impregnate Mary, there needs to be a physical presence that negates her virginity... that'd be possible without removing the potential for divine impregnation.


I don't understand what you're saying.
TheMonk
player, 8 posts
Fri 21 Feb 2014
at 08:24
  • msg #6

Re: The Virgin Birth

Kathulos:
Why not? Even animals have off spring through having sex. There's nothing special about that.
TheMonk:
Let's say that, in order to impregnate Mary, there needs to be a physical presence that negates her virginity... that'd be possible without removing the potential for divine impregnation.


I don't understand what you're saying.


Yeah... I feel kinda lost on that first statement of yours, but I tried to respond as best I could.
katisara
GM, 5554 posts
Conservative human
Antagonist
Fri 21 Feb 2014
at 12:14
  • msg #7

Re: The Virgin Birth

Okay, I need to clarify; is this the belief that Mary was impregnated without the touch of a man? Or is it the belief that Mary gave birth via miraculous means, and she died with her maidenhood intact?
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