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Out of Character 5.

Posted by NarratorFor group archive 0
Ardenas Barehand
player, 616 posts
Human martial artist with
a few spells on the side.
Tue 13 Dec 2016
at 23:10
  • msg #42

Re: Out of Character 5

End result is the same when they're behind the wheel.
Jareth Mooncalled
player, 731 posts
Dirty High Elf Sage
HP: 9/9 FP: 9/10
Tue 13 Dec 2016
at 23:48
  • msg #43

Re: Out of Character 5

Christine Bjorn:
IYou can go to the GURPs lounge game,

link to another game

and discuss the ideas, where you will find a wider audience that may be interested in participating. Better chance of getting them going!

I prefer running for people I already know... so I figured I'd start the pitch here see if I got any bites.  Besides, making the offer where the Narrator can see it in case he's interested in playing (I know I prefer to play, but I tend to end up running).
Narrator
GM, 3220 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Wed 14 Dec 2016
at 01:48
  • msg #44

Re: Out of Character 5

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 43):

I'd  love to but I  barely can keep up with this.

Just  got in from OT I will be back on tomorrow.
Chye Isuel
player, 331 posts
Wed 14 Dec 2016
at 02:36
  • [deleted]
  • msg #45

Re: Out of Character 5

This message was deleted by the player at 02:37, Wed 14 Dec 2016.
Ardenas Barehand
player, 617 posts
Human martial artist with
a few spells on the side.
Wed 14 Dec 2016
at 10:04
  • msg #46

Re: Out of Character 5

In reply to Narrator (msg # 44):

That's my problem, too -- some days, I barely have the spare time to post on three threads.  Trying to keep track of another game, too, is out of the question for me.
Narrator
GM, 3222 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Wed 14 Dec 2016
at 14:31
  • msg #47

Re: Out of Character 5

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 46):

Thankfully, that run of OT is over. For the last four months I have covered the maternity leave of the tech who handles GI fluoroscopy (she is back and I am back  in the pool of techs covering portables, the OR and house {non portable} cases).
My side gig is scanning lead aprons for holes. I have scanned
something like 85 pieces of lead in two days. The actual fluoroscopy was only about a half an hour (still a lot!)
But the data entry and paperwork were about 7 hours...

And there was no time for posting,
Jednesa
player, 171 posts
Naked Barbarian Ogress
HP:36/36 FP:1/13
Wed 14 Dec 2016
at 19:52
  • msg #48

Re: Out of Character 5

Dragging this response over to OOC as it's a good place to discuss it so all the casters can read it (in case there are people not reading the Defiled Sanctuary thread, those philistines)...



Jednesa:
Dareos Madrigar:
OOC: 02:24, Today: Dareos Madrigar rolled 10 using 3d6. Major Healing. Healing 8 HP.

OOC:  I'm betting that was before the x3 Healing multiplier Jednesa gets for being a mountain of meat?

For future note Dareos, Jednesa gets x3 Healing... so you can use the lesser healing spells and save yourself on FP (which also gets the x3 cost multiplier)


Narrator:
In reply to Jednesa (msg # 2):

ooc: I thought that was 3x cost due to SM

It's actually two different effects:

Jednesa is SM +2, which means all Regular Spells (that don't have special costs, for instance Control Elemental*) that are cast on a creature that is SM +0 or greater take an SM multiplier = (SM)+1.

* Note:  Air Jet and Shape Air are not cast on creatures, even though they can effect creatures (first three good example I found in Magic), so they aren't subject to the SM multiplier.


For Jednesa that a 3.  I suspect for Gorgath that will be a 2 (which is why Ulo is holding off casting resist Acid on him, it'll be costly).

However, Healing Spells (all healing actually, even daily rest) gets a boost based on the maximum HP of the target = (HP)/10 [rounddown].

For Jednesa this is (conveniently) x3 (36/10 = 3.6 rounddown = 3).  For Gorgath this is again x2.

So Jednesa costs 3 times the FP to cast Healing Spells on, but also gets 3 times the benefit, Gorgath is x2 on both.  This means Heal Pots, Healing Stones, and the like are more valuauble for these two Characters.

I don't think we have any other characters (except maybe Grend?) that hit 20 HP (or greater) and thus can benefit from it.



Final Note:  This would also apply to FP recovery... but I don't think anyone has FP at 20 or above.
Dareos Madrigar
player, 254 posts
Dark One/Cleric o Sethygg
HP 12/12 FP 12/9 PI15/15
Wed 14 Dec 2016
at 21:10
  • msg #49

Re: Out of Character 5

Jednesa:
However, Healing Spells (all healing actually, even daily rest) gets a boost based on the maximum HP of the target = (HP)/10 [rounddown].


Where does this come from?
Jareth Mooncalled
player, 732 posts
Dirty High Elf Sage
HP: 9/9 FP: 9/10
Wed 14 Dec 2016
at 21:13
  • msg #50

Re: Out of Character 5

Dareos Madrigar:
Where does this come from?

Basic 424, Sidebar:  High HP and Healing
Dareos Madrigar
player, 255 posts
Dark One/Cleric o Sethygg
HP 12/12 FP 12/9 PI15/15
Wed 14 Dec 2016
at 21:35
  • msg #51

Re: Out of Character 5

Learn something new every day.
Ardenas Barehand
player, 618 posts
Human martial artist with
a few spells on the side.
Thu 15 Dec 2016
at 00:27
  • msg #52

Re: Out of Character 5

Dareos Madrigar:
Learn something new every day.


I'll second that.  What we get for having 500+ pages of basic rules, plus Magic, plus coming on two dozen DF supplements.  Remember when GURPS was one book under 200 pages, plus whatever source books you needed?
Jareth Mooncalled
player, 733 posts
Dirty High Elf Sage
HP: 9/9 FP: 9/10
Thu 15 Dec 2016
at 01:32
  • msg #53

Re: Out of Character 5

Ardenas Barehand:
Remember when GURPS was one book under 200 pages, plus whatever source books you needed?

Nope.  But I got into GURPS in 3e...


3e Basic is 275 pages ;) ...  not including the Compendiums, which once those came out the "core" books became Basic + Compendium I and II.
Oly
player, 800 posts
Badly disfigured face
Rank 1 Guild badge
Thu 15 Dec 2016
at 02:15
  • msg #54

Re: Out of Character 5

Which is why it looks more and more like D&D... got to have a new book for everything.
Ardenas Barehand
player, 620 posts
Human martial artist with
a few spells on the side.
Thu 15 Dec 2016
at 10:11
  • msg #55

Re: Out of Character 5

I've been a GURPS fan since "Man to Man" came out in 1986 -- that was the TL3-4, no-magic, combat system only.  Didn't even have non-combat skills, and ran about 80 pages, spine-stapled.  Second edition was still under 200 for the basic book.

From what I've been seeing about D&D 5e, they've tried very, very hard to simplify the "game" aspect of that game so it's playable.  Not sure how well they've succeeded; it hasn't been out that long and I haven't even looked at the SRD (downloaded it, haven't had time to open it).  I've played one session of 3.5e, and aside from that, haven't played D&D since about the time 2e came out -- but any resemblance between any edition of D&D and any edition of GURPS is, IMO, mainly due to DF.  For folks nostalgic for "kill things and take their stuff", there's also Fighting Fantasy (with Steve Jackson as co-author).
Jareth Mooncalled
player, 735 posts
Dirty High Elf Sage
HP: 9/9 FP: 9/10
Thu 15 Dec 2016
at 13:58
  • msg #56

Re: Out of Character 5

Ardenas Barehand:
...there's also Fighting Fantasy (with Steve Jackson as co-author).

That's a different Steve Jackson, the FF co-author lives in Britian and had nothing to do with GURPS.
Oren
player, 743 posts
Thu 15 Dec 2016
at 14:01
  • msg #57

Re: Out of Character 5

5e DnD is better than 3. Less feature creep. It's disappointing because it could have been much better, but they focused too much on trying to win back Pathfinder players and not enough innovation.

That said, the design team is like two guys working out of a WotC closet... they're relying on third party content and DM guild materials, for the most part.
Oly
player, 801 posts
Badly disfigured face
Rank 1 Guild badge
Thu 15 Dec 2016
at 17:23
  • msg #58

Re: Out of Character 5

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 55):

I still have Man to Man around here somewhere... I think I even have a couple of THE FANTASY TRIP Modules.
Dareos Madrigar
player, 256 posts
Dark One/Cleric o Sethygg
HP 12/12 FP 12/9 PI15/15
Thu 15 Dec 2016
at 18:11
  • msg #59

Re: Out of Character 5

In reply to Oly (msg # 58):

I'm a GURPS fanatic.  I have In the Labyrinth, Advanced Melee, and Advanced Wizard.
I have every edition of GURPS, nearly every 2nd ed and 3rd ed book, two copies of Man to Man.  Everything printed in 4th and almost all of the PDFs.

I've often said "If they print GURPS Blank Pages, I'd probably buy it."

It's the only system I'll run and by far my preferred to play.
Jareth Mooncalled
player, 737 posts
Dirty High Elf Sage
HP: 9/9 FP: 9/10
Thu 15 Dec 2016
at 19:50
  • msg #60

Re: Out of Character 5

Dareos Madrigar:
I'm a GURPS fanatic.  I have In the Labyrinth, Advanced Melee, and Advanced Wizard.
I have every edition of GURPS, nearly every 2nd ed and 3rd ed book, two copies of Man to Man.  Everything printed in 4th and almost all of the PDFs.

I've often said "If they print GURPS Blank Pages, I'd probably buy it."

It's the only system I'll run and by far my preferred to play.

Ditto.  Except I don't have GURPS 2nd ed.  And I have everything for 4e... and about 75% of 3e.

I'm missing some obscure stuff like Callahan's Crosstime Saloon, Rogues, Villains, Warriors, and Wizards (off the top of my head).
Ardenas Barehand
player, 621 posts
Human martial artist with
a few spells on the side.
Thu 15 Dec 2016
at 23:19
  • msg #61

Re: Out of Character 5

Too many years too broke; I've only got a dozen or so 3e sourcebooks, and only Magic, Low Tech, and 3-4 DF PDFs for 4th.
Narrator
GM, 3236 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Fri 16 Dec 2016
at 02:51
  • msg #62

Re: Out of Character 5

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 61):

Like an idiot I sold off a lot of my 3e...
Jareth Mooncalled
player, 738 posts
Dirty High Elf Sage
HP: 9/9 FP: 9/10
Fri 16 Dec 2016
at 03:21
  • msg #63

Re: Out of Character 5

Narrator:
Like an idiot I sold off a lot of my 3e...

That's.... that's definitely a forehead slapper.  granted I considered it as well... except that a) most of my 3e books are in terrible condition, b) I figured I could just use them if I ever did convert to 4e, and c) I had no plans to convert.  Ever.

I did finally convert in like 2012.
Chye Isuel
player, 333 posts
Osu! Ora Chye Isuel!
Youxia/Bard
Fri 16 Dec 2016
at 03:23
  • msg #64

Re: Out of Character 5

i have china,vikings,low-tech, martial arts, undead, magic, basic set, compendium 1 & 2, grimoire, fantasy folk, gurps sex, cyberpunk, ultratech 1 & 2, and robots all 3e on pdf.
Oly
player, 802 posts
Badly disfigured face
Rank 1 Guild badge
Fri 16 Dec 2016
at 15:47
  • msg #65

Re: Out of Character 5

I have about 30 Inches of bookshelf devoted to 3e stuff.
Narrator
GM, 3244 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Sat 17 Dec 2016
at 14:58
  • msg #66

Re: Out of Character 5

In reply to Oly (msg # 65):

For those fighting the cult, yes, the unraisable bodies are worthless to necromancers, maybe worth a tiny amount to as alchemist, but barely worth the labor.
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