In reply to Oren (msg # 970):

Yeah, Christine is not squishy if she can stay far enough from the fight!

As for overpacking...she is a woman! By the time you apply the 6lb limit for the various body of... Spells,and the weight of her makeup, she would be wearing a bikini...very much not her style!

As for cost, I think you are forgetting the spell prerequisites, especially for Golem, and the skill of sculpting. Animation also not so useful, and enchant has a bucket of prerequisites as well.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:28, Thu 24 Mar 2016.

With a ST of 9 even the basics feels like overpacking.

So you hire a Torchbearer carry some of it.  And then you hire a Guard to protect the Torchbearer.  Then a Laborer to carry the supplies for the other two guys you hired. Then...

So just take spells that replace whatever stuff you're bringing instead.

Mind you I say this as the proud owner of a squashed mule.

Jareth, just for clarity, Ardenas was never in the "Juniors" group, he picked up the lead that turned into "Day at the Dojo" after returning from an aborted mapping expedition with Huey and Mythos.

In reply to Oren (msg # 973):

Yes, I know about taking spells to replace goods carried, as you have noticed. But still, even armour can bring up the encumbrance for a strong fighter. That is why I have chunky as an elemental ally.

We may need Ooc 3 soon...

Only armor that matters is not getting hit.

Yeah, that 6 pound limit means you need someone there to either A) pick up your stuff, or B) just be carrying it already.

I agree with going for B.


</quote>As for cost, I think you are forgetting the spell prerequisites, especially for Golem...</quote>
Nope, just ignored them.  Every single spell (except Golem and Enchant) has a use.

Okay... Summon Spirit is of very limited use...  I'll grant you that one, but it's no worse than say Seek Air.


I missed that.  The basic Artist/Smithing skill involved (Blacksmith if you say made an Iron Golem) is a necessity, but has it's own uses as well.

If nothing else as a "make some coin in town" skill.


Making the expensive statue you found walk itself to the art dealer?  CHA-CHING!

Making doors fight to stay closed or smack people that try to go through?

Okay, sure, Animation is right up there with Seek Air (mostly because it's so bloody expensive).  It damn sure wasn't on Ulo's list.

So... sure, 2 useless spells and 2 'not-very-useful' spells.


1 spell from 10 different colleges.  I bet you hit that just filling in the spells you actually wanted and planned to use.

Air, Earth, Fire, Food, Knowledge, Light and Darkness, Meta-Spells, Movement, Protection, and Water just to name the most common choices...

Granted you bee-lined for the Elemental spells... so that would cause for some serious hard choices early on.

Summon Spirit is awesome, I don't know what you're talking about.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 964):

Jocelyn IS NOT an Apprentice! She is a Mage ... well almost for sure ... maybe a journeyman mage ...  And you totally missed Mellaril... even though you are currently staring at her backside in the game...

In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 979):

Lol, you forgot Death Vision and Inspired creation. I have scroll and Lighten to make some case when bored in town...

He is a clay Golem, so skulpting is for clay...less useful. As for that statue, Chris can carru it!

As a non-mage Jareth can't just do that.  Jednesa just carries whatever she needs, and the party needs, and the mules (giving them a break) and pulls the wagon... and barely breaks No Encumberance (I kid.  She's not that strong.  Yet).




That's why I put him as 'Left "Wastrel's Hope" for "A day at the dojo"'.  I didn't go back to reread how connected you were to Nodwin, Grimbo, and Mario... but Ardenas was there (as you said, it's where he picked up the plot thread).




I KNOW!  Jareth wishes he had someone with him right now who could cast it (and do so with skill).  The dead are so much easier to question than the living.



Whoops!  And Mell was on my list too.  I'll add her in in a moment.




Death Vision is awesome! Had Christine used it against that monstrously huge troll that that you guys had to spend so long hacking up it could have been a fight ender.

No resistance, just an IQ roll to shake off the Mental Stun?  Drops big guys like that's it's job.*

* Unless it has Combat Reflexes.  Cheaty big guys with their Combat Reflexes... /shakes fist


That's not on the list of prereqs for Enchant or Golem.  I think you're using a different prereq chain GURPS Magic 4e (or a different set of required spells for making Golems*).

Inspired Creation is only a prereq for Awaken Craft Spirit which isn't a prereq for anything else.  Likely you needed Inspired Creation to sculpt the body... and Inspired Creation is not useless!**  It's a critical success on a crafting/artist roll with a +5 to your skill!  Sure... if you've other ways to make bank...


* Which makes sense... RAW Golems can only be healed by the Mage who created them... which means in DF... hmmm.  Definitely has to be a different style of Golem than RAW Magic 4e.  Unless Chris is unhealable?

** To anyone other than your stereotypical dungeon diving Firecasting DF Wizard...  heck Jareth would love to have that spell.  Get back from a delve and make a masterpiece Map that sells for $500?  Sign him up!


Okay... now I really need to ask what spells the Narrator's allowing that aren't normally allowed!  ;)


If you've got other skills to make bank with?  Yeah, it's less useful.  But it's still not Seek Air.*


*I've yet to have a Wizard in any GURPS Fantasy game ever that found a use for Seek Air.  But every one of them had it...
This message was last edited by the player at 23:34, Thu 24 Mar 2016.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 981):

Yeah, inspired creation was used to make him lifelike.

Death Vision? Maybe I should check that out. Summon Spirit not so useful when she is often the cause of death...Attitude apparently transcends death.

She does also have a spell specifically for healing Golems. She actually has a wide variety of spells...but lots of Fire ones! Almost all...

There are a lot of spells that don't look very useful at first blush, but have subtle uses.

Agian though, Combat Reflexes makes it almost useless to use on most fighters (and it's an IQ check so useless versus most casters).  But on a big Brute?  Often they lack that advantage.


Ya just need to be a skillful caster... and have useful questions to ask.


I expected as such.  Golems would be useless in DF otherwise (for most PCs anyway, NPC Enchanter Clerics though?).
This message was last edited by the player at 00:42, Fri 25 Mar 2016.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 983):

I made allowances  for enchanters, but as we are pbp and a grand total of three weeks has gone by in the last three YEARS of play, either you start with gear or you are an npc. Xandalar, who makes a living casting Manastone (the power item charging spell) became too boring for them to play.

That is an astoundingly good point.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 985):

Dareos and Stenet, your thread is waiting -second expedition to the abandoned abbey

Hi, just checking in and saying that I'm still alive.

I admit... I'm a bit baffled at this one.


If we we're both Dwarves I'd know exactly what the Narrator meant... ;)
This message was last edited by the player at 14:27, Fri 25 Mar 2016.

I suspect she(he) meant COLD look.

In reply to Johan Stark (msg # 989):

Yes Jo-Han I look at Ulo cold like ice slorn.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 986):

On it.

So we have Christine, mountain elf fire wizard and her golem.

Dareos Madrigar Dark One/Cleric o Sethygg

Azrael Charismatic Exorcist

Jednesa, whole lot of woman

and Haskell the Crafty?

Anyone else?

That seems to be it.

Yes, and I was saying it's not obvious that he is a separate entity (as he never posts), so expecting us to look for his cbaracter page might be optimistic :).

I don't even know how to search for pages other than to hunt down an old post and get the link that way.


But I'll be putting together other "Who's Whos" for the other quests as I get time.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 994):

I was referring to looking for Chris in the extremely long cast list to get to his description.

Anyway, what Chris is well established now!

And speaking of searching, Narrator, would you please open the next one before this thread becomes unsearchable?  Jareth's lists will be very handy to be able to find again!
This message was last edited by the player at 21:02, Fri 25 Mar 2016.