As we near the 10k mark...

In reply to Narrator (msg # 1):

Tarnan, you out there?

In reply to Narrator (msg # 2):

Is Below the Winecellar stalled?  I can't tell what we're waiting for.

In reply to Dareos Madrigar (msg # 3):

Nor can I...

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 4):

Sorry! I keep having my tablet refresh and mark new posts as read. It ends up looking like no one has posted.

Six 3d6 rolls so far in this fight. The only one below 13 was a 5 on the critical miss table to nearly cut off my own leg.

Rock.

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 6):

Wastrels, there may be a character from pursuit of the eye looking to join.

Those back from the depths, ditto from the eye. When everyone is on deck, a new thread will launch

In reply to Narrator (msg # 7):

Hell yeah! He will light the way! Maybe one from the winecellars too...

Wine cellar, food and more drink sounds good.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 7):

Perhaps more than one...

In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 10):

And perhaps from other threads...

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 6):

Huey, if we were playing at a table, I'd suggest getting the curse taken off your dice...

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 12):

Thanks . . .

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 13):

Wastrels  : may be a sage joining as well

Up for more delving excitement as well.

In reply to Gorgath (msg # 15):

Yes. There will be an expedition returning to visit the trolls soon, led by Stark.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 16):

Those previously pursuing the Eye can post in Return from the Depths; any PCS here will be hooking up for the next full strength character run; henchthings are recommended to go tho the Wastrel's hope. or into the new thread, Juniors.

Oly, what kind of weapon are you using? I note "stab," but neck doesn't give any advantage over torso for impaling and piercing.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 17):

Will they be leaving after the winecellars is finished?

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 18):

Oly has a long knife, but this critter's DR blocked his first cut.

Winecellars has minutes to go...

I am assuming that since only his head is through the door, his chest is not available to stab. His neck is... and this last blow may be seriously injuring... there is both the spinal cord and assorted blood and air vessels in the neck. Oly is the opposite of Huey ... he takes aimed shots with a small weapon at chosen targets looking for killing blows.

In reply to Oly (msg # 21):

Hard to kill +2 is a bitch, ain't it?

In reply to scaly thing (msg # 22):

Yup... makes them tougher ... and way out of the league of a sneak thief...but he is trying to help the party as best he can.

Oh, Huey's taking aimed shots! He likes to decapitate things.

Large Knife does cutting, that's all I wondered. If you weren't doing cutting, I was wondering why take the penalty, that's all.

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 24):

Didn't think I'd do much by hacking away... ;-)

Huey, you did this to my dice!  (Critical miss, fortunately without injury)...

Yes, now I need to find something else to do after a hot bath and food.

PM

[Private to GM: IF no one takes Stark I'll take him ... but I'll let Syvanus go after this adventure]

In reply to Oly (msg # 28):

Does Christine need to duck the axe, or does Chris, protecting Christine in the same way as the troll warrior is protecting the witch, block it?

Hello!  Still getting the last kinks worked out and last CP spent ont he character... but I had to post:

Aemon McCain "...a blade longer an a cubit needs ta be bonded."

/spittake

A shortsword!  No one needs a shortsword fer eatin!


[EDIT]
Hang on... maybe Aemon means pommel to tip...
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In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 30):

I understood that to be "a cubit less a span" -- which, on my arms, is about a span, and would cover anything bigger than a large knife.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 31):

Oh, that would do it.  I just kept having images of Crocodile Dundee saying "Knife?  That's no a Knife!" running in my head.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 32):

That would beacubit less a span,which should just cover a long  knife

In reply to Narrator (msg # 33):

Be posting tomorrow

Anyone what some company?

In reply to Sorsha (msg # 35):

Gathering in 'Return from the depths'...

Anybody in Below the Guild have healing ability? Or at least a good First Aid?

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 37):

I think you have two healing potions...

In reply to Narrator (msg # 38):

So I do. But I'd still rather draw on renewable resources first if anybody has them.

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 37):

Oly has First Aid ... what's really good? He has around a 75% chance of succes.

Thanks. If we have no magical healing, if you can take 1 minute for bandaging that can be 2hp, then I'll drink a potion and see where we are.

Sure.... would have anyway... unless you refused the help.

In reply to Oly (msg # 42):

Yeah. I'm down 17, but I heal at double thanks to my absurd total HP.

I think Oly has better odds than Ardenas, and I don't have materials, but I'm willing to help if it's any help.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 44):

Without separate reserves, chi and mana drain fatigue equally
The battle was only 10-12 seconds so did not cost extra fatigue.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 45):

I have just been informed Elves speak Welsh... so let's all pretend the terrible the French accent never happened and instead it's been a terrible Welsh accent all along.

Merci  Diolch i chi.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 46):

Just to check, Juniors is for 100cp characters, right? As is below the guild?

If the accent gets to be too much, just say the word, I can tone it back.

But he does speak Araliase with an Accent...

Not sure how you guys split odd loot amounts, but a Least Share is where someone takes a bit less so everyone else can get an 'even' amount.

For Example:

$3000 split 9 ways is $333 each with $3 left over.  With a Least Share that's $334 8 ways with the 9th taking $328.


Asking for Right Of Credit is just to put his name on the map if we find some new area or something weird.  It's Sage's Guild rep type stuff I figure, Publish or Perish!

In reply to Aoife (msg # 47):

Juniors is 125-135 cp, according to the last post on it that I saw from Narrator.  I'm built on 125.

Below the Guild is a group of 250 cp characters -- or at least, that's what Ardenas was built on.

In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 50):

Likewise for Grimbo and Huey -- 125 and 250.

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 51):

And Jareth, you can minimize the accent. I use the language   subs primarily for interacting with those with broken or worsr. Your having an accent  is established .

In reply to Aoife (msg # 47):

Below the guild is 250 CP characters

In reply to Oly (msg # 53):

Ok, then. So Christine, Melchizadek and Aoife could fit into either of them, as needed. 2 healers and a fire mage...

Sounds like you need some meatshie... err, I mean stalwart warriors.

Thank you! :)

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 54):

Are we close enough to being finished with Below the Winecellars to be making more plans?

In reply to Dareos Madrigar (msg # 57):

I think Christine might do well on the explorations
 Below the Guild, rather than in the upcoming Troll Market, given recent genocide...
Dareus could go to either group, but the meatshield I mean front line fighter there would vote yes on clergy.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 58):

Aye.

An I were jus ge'in gud ar i'!

I'll dial it back little by little till it's just a word here and there that's still 'accented'.


Mae'r ddedfryd hon wedi cael ei chyfieithu i'r Gymraeg!

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We've got eight characters (not sure how many are NPCs) already in Juniors, but only one of those is a healer at all.  I think we might be able to use another...

If push comes to shoving Jareth is a Physicker, his Sage's Guild ring had that symbol prominently displayed...


But we're talking meatball surgery!

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 62):

Still, that might let you keep someone alive long enough for an exhausted healer to Recover Energy (or at least drink some paut).

Aye, that's the plan.  And in case the Healer takes a hard hit and goes down.

Feeling poorly the last couple of days, and will have a lot of mundane stuff to catch up on as I recover. Don't expect much from Huey and Grimbo this week :).

Have a cup of Goblin Tea, you'll feel better ...[ guess that would be green tea]

In reply to Oly (msg # 66):

Feel better! We may be a day or so organizing and dropping color text.

Huey's group might be backtracking after dealing with Hvroki
So as to heal; you might join up with a mage and cleric.

Sounds like a good plan ...

In reply to Oly (msg # 68):

I agree, unless we've got healing magic or more potions, we'd be making a bad decision to continue with Huey so badly slashed up.  I'm not even sure how we'll get him back up the stairs; he's too heavy for one person to carry even a short way.  Maybe we could haul him up the center of the stairwell with ropes...

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 69):

Waiting on anything below the winecellars?

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 69):

Huey can walk. I just don't want to see him in a more dangerous fight.

As a side note... in case someone was wondering where Jareth's alchemical blather was coming from:

The "Arrhenius Alkali Scale" comes from Svante Arrhenius who first gave a cohesive definition for acids, but was only working with the stronger akalis (reactive hydroxide ion donating).  Brønsted–Lowry refined the definition to include the 'weaker' reactions (reactive hydroxide ion accepting), which allowed for ammonia to be called a base.  The Lewis Theory deals with electrons... and simply put, just extends the definition from common usage acids and bases into the theoretical.


/rainbow forms... the more you know!

I'm no chemist, but I think Borax would be sufficiently base to do the trick... qick lime is another prevalent chemical [usd to make walls white]  and I'm trying to think of cheap and available.

Plain chalk is about as cheap and available as we're likely to get, and perfectly adequate for acids as strong as vinegar, or stronger.  Doesn't need to be burned and slaked (it's actually slaked lime that's used in whitewash; quicklime is dangerous stuff), but it's a common feedstock for that process.

I'm no chemist... I just know ammonia is good for stinging jellyfish which has an acidic sting.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 75):

Yes, we all saw the episode of survivor where that was demonstrated,

Shopping done, sheet updated, ready to roll.

I haven't.  I live in Florida though... so we have that as a beach hazard.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 78):

Yep. I learned about it on the North Carolina Outer Banks!

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 79):

In any case, buying a useful (Alchemically manufactured) base
Costs he same as buying acid

Are we waiting on something/someone in Below the Guild?

OOC- I think we are headed back out...

In reply to Oly (msg # 82):

Hvroki just responded. you are about to get some backup when you get up...
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In reply to Narrator (msg # 83):

Is anyone following up on Aethelbert's suggestion of a suitable merchant?

In reply to Narrator (msg # 84):

We are kind of letting Stark do the organizing, as he is getting the group together...

In reply to Aoife (msg # 85):

I would rather not have npcs interact with npcs.... He is kinda preoccupied as well...

In reply to Narrator (msg # 86):

Is someone playing Stark?

In reply to Oly (msg # 87):

At the moment, no, which is why I need someone to interact   with the merchant npc a little.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 88):

Has wnyone heard from Gorgath lately?

Oh I'm here. Just watching the crowd with amusement.

In reply to Gorgath (msg # 90):

Stark has a new player now

Yay!  He's a good character.  I look forward to his future.

Well, I believe our group has executed what's known as an "expeditious retreat".

Just how short is Mario Crowfoot?

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 94):

Mario is 5' 4".  Pretty small for a male human (though this player has met a number of smaller ones).

Has something happened to all the site-supplied character images?  Or is it just my browser acting up since this week's update?

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 96):

I got a lot of dodgy ones too...
This message was last updated by the player at 15:50, Sat 03 Oct 2015.

It's only a few of them for me.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 98):

Fixed now...

In reply to anaconda (msg # 99):

I'm still seeing only a very few character portraits.  I see yours, Anaconda, but not either of my own, nor any of the NPCs I interact with, nor anyone in my parties other than (yesterday, haven't checked this morning) three that I presume were player uploaded.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 100):

I see that as a connectivity issue.

I will be away today and posting tomorrow.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 101):

Well, character portraits are back now.  BTW, this has all been with the same computer on the same wifi connection.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 102):

And affecting several of us simultaneously. Maybe one server down. In any case, they're back for me, too.

Yeah, yesterday I checked in several times and the avatars were either all missing, or all fine (previously it was only a few avatars affected).  This went back and forth, but today they been stable at all fine.

From the admins:

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 105):

Thanks for checking on that.

We waiting on anyone under the winecellars?

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 106):

heading there now

In reply to Narrator (msg # 107):

2 healers with Stark...do any other groups need one?

In reply to Aoife (msg # 108):

I think Mythos, Huey, and Ardenas have demonstrated a need for a healer -- at least for self-inflicted wounds...  :p

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 109):

:P

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 110):

I think Dareos will be joining them. Stark's crew may  need two...

In reply to Narrator (msg # 111):

It does seem like my current adventure is about to end.  Unless the orphans and indigents in town need my help, I'd be happy to join another quest.

Let's hope Stark's Crew doesn't need any...

In reply to Johan Stark (msg # 113):

Oh, that sounds ominous. If Dareos is going there, then Christine too?

In reply to Johan Stark (msg # 113):

Yes, we mages don't like to get hit.

In reply to Sorsha (msg # 115):

Sounds like return from the depths is waiting for the winecellars to finish..
any way to expediate that?

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 116):

Working  on it.


I am going to be traveling from Saturday through Wednesday, and the hotel has crappy  wifi, so in all likelihood I will be unable to post.

In reply to Melchizidek (msg # 114):

I can't speak for her, but I'll be along.  Assuming your mission isn't too unsavory.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 117):

Are you able to post from your phone?

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 119):

I am out of range from my carrier

In reply to Narrator (msg # 120):

Does Chris get to dodge? If mot, does the fire overcome his DR? Finally, what is in the chest?

In reply to Chris (msg # 121):

You nean beside the evil runes?
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In reply to troll mage (msg # 122):

Yes. Something valuable is usually kept in such chests.

Is Chris in need of repair?

In reply to Chris (msg # 123):

No, his ludicrous DR defended him.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 124):

That is what it is there for!

In reply to Chris (msg # 125):

Peace out everyone! I may be able to check in before Thursday, but not sure when.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 126):

I am back!

In reply to Narrator (msg # 127):

Two possible new players. One is the former player of Kebrel  Hoart, looking to play a warrior with some guards, and also another player new to rpol looking to play an abandoned   character. Who would you all like to see not be npc'd?

Give him Kebrel back.... and Alvin ;-) ... and any of the rest he wants.

In reply to Brodak (msg # 129):

Imade it cleqr your crew had moved on. He wanted something different.

But he is welcome to those who stayed behind...

In reply to Brodak (msg # 131):

He is welcome to take one of the healers in this group, as I have 2...

In reply to Aoife (msg # 132):

Which ones? I m7ght offer Rush as well.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 133):

Hey, Gorgath, you good giving up Haskell?

Yes.

In reply to Gorgath (msg # 135):

Good. The new player is picking him up, and maybe along for the next trip down.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 136):

I can offer Aoife if he is interested.

In reply to Aoife (msg # 137):

He just picked up Haskell, but if you'd rather, I will propose   it. I thought you liked Aoife. You managed her quite well.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 138):

Oh, I do. But I am also managing Melchizidek, and I would prefer to have just one per thread if e have the players.

In reply to Aoife (msg # 139):

Which would you rather, Mel or Aoife?

In reply to Narrator (msg # 140):

I would prefer Mel.

Would Zeelzeel being "down with the kobolds" mean in the work area Huey, Mythos et al. went through? Does Huey know anything about Zeelzeel?

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 142):

I don't  think Huey has worked with him, but Oly has.

I on't remembre him, but Oly may... ;-)

In reply to Oly (msg # 144):

Prist of the hunt, cousin to Razakeel

Refreshing this part of the question--unless "down with the kobolds" doesn't mean anything to me, in which case I'll ask IC :)

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 146):

Zeel has been preaching Erl King worship to kobolds... near the work area

In reply to Narrator (msg # 147):

Thanks.

Greetings gentlefolk!

Looks like I will be the new Aoife. So who's with me, where are we, and what are we doing?

(I won't be trying to match the accent though.)

Glad to see a new spirit inhabited her... welcome...

In reply to Oly (msg # 150):

Lets wrap up winecellars  quickly.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 151):

Working on it. Happy to say gather the rest of the loot and head back up if there are no further encounters...

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 152):

A couple of search  rolls for the dorms, and the smiths room once entered and you are out.

What happened to everyone in the Merchant thread?

I think we are all standing around waiting for Lightening or something...

In reply to Johan Stark (msg # 155):

Why dont you make the rolls as needed and post a summary. I don't need to role-play searching the rooms if the others are cool with it.

So currently the group is Aoife, Gorgath, Melchizidek, Sorsha, and Johan Stark finishing up In the Merchant quarter, correct?

Getting up to speed with Aoife, it's been a while since I've played a caster.

In reply to Aoife (msg # 157):

To the best of my knowledge...

In reply to Johan Stark (msg # 158):
That sounds about right, to be joined by Rush and Darg.

Meanwhile,  Dareos and Christine will join up with Huey, Mythos, Ardenas, along with the mapper, torchbearer and strong Claire (she speaks orcish...)

In reply to Narrator (msg # 159):

Posting more tomorrow

Any big deal for Huey to find/buy a couple more potions of Minor Healing? His last one will probably get him to full, then he just needs to replenish to be ready to go again.

Or Return From the Depths could find a healer, if we're just waiting for another group to wrap.

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 161):

A full time healer is enroute; Dareos Madrigar

In reply to Narrator (msg # 162):

Along with a caster, a fire mage...

Excellent. I'd still like to replenish my potion supply a bit. Narrator, is that routine gear for Minor Healing?

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 164):

Siimple, spend cash, get potion.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 165):

Excellent. Updating sheet now!

"But I was going into Toshi Station to pick up some new power converters."

Oh wait.  Wrong character.

"People in need of the healing hug of Sethygg's powerful coils?  I will be there soon."

Are the ghula in this setting D&D-style undead ghouls, or GURPS Horror-style living scavengers?

Nevermind -- I re-read Razakeel's posts.
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In reply to Grimbo (msg # 168):

Worse. CoC style undead ghouls

Yay, they added the picture I submitted!

Waiting for the ghula to fall (or need more killing) over in Juniors...

In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 171):

Sorry. Had my kid in he ER yesterday.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 172):

Very nasty. OK now?

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 173):

Eh, theyhad a massive allergic reaction, turned into one big
hive. Got some meds to mask with, but still symptomatic.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 174):

No fun. Been there with family. Food allergy, aromatic or contact?

Zorry do hear dad!; hope everyone iz bedder zoon

Was it a bee hive they turned into?  At least then you could get honey...    ;)

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 177):

Nfi what caused it, and no hunny.

Well, glad things are better now.  Time for some allergy testing...  :p

In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 179):

Yeah. Pretty sure you do not want a repeat performance. Having some Adrenalin on hand might be a nice idea too.

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 180):

Pharmacy will have an epi pen ready for pickup today. I have to get them to their pcp then a referral  to an allergist

For Return from the Depths, Huey's just kind of stumbling into the orc-goblin plotline. I think Juniors were being set up for it originally. But he's not one for intrigue. He is, rather, a Thumper. So as we party-build, we either need to make sure we have somebody investigative and hope there are also thumping opportunities, or Huey might need to wait for a different mission.

I'm good either way.

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 182):

Yes that mission was originally keyed to the juniors, and aspects of it need be addressed  without thumping. There are,
however, always going to be individuals sorely in need of a good thumping, and the world of goblinoid blood sports happens to be full of them.

Anyone with a spare point should consider investing in spoken orcish or goblin; I believe Sorsha speaks orcish.
Zeelzeel will not be with you, although Mythos'assorted
henchlings, including Strong Claire, may be of use.

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 182):

I'm afraid I don't have any investigative skills, other than a few borderline burglary abilities (climbing, Lockmaster, levitation) that can be useful for obtaining information that's stored away.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 184):

Believe  me, Ardenas  has baseline skills that will be needed

Huh... and the socially adept Sage with a head full of IQ skills just went underground and away from being able to help unravel sticky social mysteries.

Bad timing on my part.  ;)

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 186):

So you are sending a fire mage to a potentially explosive situation...what could go wrong?

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 187):

Nothing that can't be solved with fire.  Enough fire solves everything right?

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 188):

That is definitely her policy!

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 189):
Christine  has other skills...

Be away for a bit.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 190):

She may need reminding of them...

An old friend of mine was often quoted as saying "Fire is the universal language.  Everyone speaks fire.  When you meet a new culture, you should introduce yourself using the universal language."

In reply to Dareos Madrigar (msg # 192):

Was that old friend Christine? Sounds like her...

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 193):

Come now, you have enough air spells to do non lethal damage as needed!

In reply to Narrator (msg # 194):

Ah, but does she know how to do non-lethal damage? For that matter, does she want to know how...

Of the Universal Languages, I've always found Fire to be as confusing as Love.

Are you just trying to warm a man for the rest of his life or burn him to death?  Preparing a splendid roast long pig or making a political statement?


But the Universal Language of Violence?  Rarely as confusing.

Gorgath Approves!

"I know the language of Violence all too well.  However, I prefer the languages of Care and Generosity."

The RP challenge of Dareos is that he's much nicer than the person playing him.  :P

In reply to Gorgath (msg # 197):

Even the Universal Language of Violence can be confusing.  I can kick a man into tomorrow, but just a little harder kick will crush his skull or break his neck -- and it can be hard indeed to judge how hard to kick or punch if you intend to avoid killing.

My brains, his steel, and your strength against sixty men, and you think a little toe-wiggle is supposed to make Brodak happy?

If only we had a wheelbarrow and a holocaust cloak

In reply to Nodwin Zideqick (msg # 201):

:)

Also, I posted a thing, that has more Henchmen types in it.

https://gwythaintny.wordpress....raftsmen-and-smiths/

In reply to Narrator (msg # 202):

A lot of nice graphics there...you should do a kids book!

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 203):

I have been trying to get work in the OSR community, and have sold to John Stater, who publishes Blood & Treasure and the zine Nod.  I also am rounding out a taxonomy of DF races for a Brasileño  gamer named Mateus, who is a regular  on the forums.

In reply to Nodwin Zideqick (msg # 201):

I am sure I can acquire a wheelborrow and cloak.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 204):

Nice stuff with the templates, as well as the illustrations.  Not much work for PC smiths or scribes, but they're part of the infrastructure that's helps the world make sense.  I remember having to hire NPC scribes and smiths for various things as far back as 1980, playing AD&D 1st Ed.  They worked a lot cheaper than wizards and clerics...  ;)

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 206):

I am proud to be a 62pt scribe hireling

In reply to Kasmir Al Vasari (msg # 207):

I think they fill the important "I want a map but can't draw"
 kind of thing, with point and cash costs.

Or requesting armor for someone a little larger than normal?  Hmmm.

Exactly.  It wouldn't make sense not to have those folks around, even if they aren't viable as independent adventurers.  Mind you, I've often thought a lot of the difference between, say, a 125 point henchman and a 250 point adventurer is how much we know about him.  Give a 125 point guard the background of a fully fledged RP-heavy PC, and he's suddenly pretty close to 250 points.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 210):

The secondary 125 point lenses like "Learned", "Treasure Hunter" and "Veteran" are designed to
 represent just that.  A 62 point smith is competent, but a 125 point one can create
masterworks, like fine weapons and armor, probably very fine if they specialize in making only
 one type of weapon.  Of course, add the Gadgeteer lens and you have a full blown artificer.

Oren is 125 point Agent with the 125 point Treasure Hunter lens.

Vilgar is a Brute with Treasure Hunter, and a little extra.

Marlena is a Seasoned Apprentice, and Snorri a Seasoned Guard.
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Wait... what?  Background detail has nothing to do with character points.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 212):

give them the effective gains of an extensive background by way of points

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 212):

The way I've looked at it, many low-point characters have no points in anything except their specialty, making them competent in a particular field, but very one-dimensional.  Under 3E, which I've played a lot more than 4E, you can make a survivable adventurer with 25 points this way (25 + 50 disads + 5 quirks can make a competent fighter or thief, or a specialist mage in movement or fire colleges at least, based only on the ones I've tried; I've built a 0 point mage in 3E who could cast fireballs, though he had some issues).  Templates reduce this one-dimensionality a little, but the small ones have so few points that they don't help much.

Take those low-point characters (very roughly 62 point types in 4th Ed.) and round them out enough you'd expect them to get through a more or less normal life (skills they'd need to live alone or with a partner or family, like Cooking, Area Knowledge, some form of Savoir Faire to deal with office politics or city guards, enough Diplomacy to not get in fights every day and enough Brawling to survive them when they do anyway, etc., along with some slight attribute increases), and you get what a 125 point template includes as "background skills" along with a slightly higher level of job skills and general competency.

By the time they have a broad range of "everyday" competency, professional level of skill in a specialty and competency in some related sidelines, a couple advantages that stretch their job skill points, and a few points into things like hobbies or background (languages, say) or a second field, and it's really easy to wind up with 250 points -- in fact, I'm seeing what looks like about a 2.5x factor compared to the point values I was used to in 3rd Ed -- that is, these 250 point full power characters are about what we'd have gotten with 100 points prior to 2005 (largely due to higher attribute cost, a little due to increases on some advantages).

Part of this is the broadening of templates -- which is generally a good thing; those were very new when I was playing a lot of 3E, and I'd never used one for a build until I made DF characters for this game.  I've been very happy with my build of a 125 point Archer (Mario Crowfoot), and didn't find it needed DX 16 to be viable (as would have been the case in 3E).  The only real lack I find with Ardenas (125 point Martial Artist with Wizard lens applied) is that I ran out of points and had to choose between useful skill in useful Movement spells (Lockmaster, Levitation, Wallwalker, Winged Knife), or being able to get Recovery Energy at a usable skill level.  Once he's been on a profitable adventure or two and can afford to carry paut, it'll be missed less...

Ah, you meant background as in "Background Skills".  I don;t associate the word with skills, I associate it with character backstory.

So where is everyone in the Merchants quarters?

Ganging around in the guild, waiting for Christine's group to get it together and show up with stuff to sell.

In reply to Johan Stark (msg # 217):

OK, Just wondering.

Wait... are you getting one group to buy looty from another group?  Why Narrator you sly dog!

And then take it back as gifts to the same folk it was ripped off from!

And the cycle of life delving in the dungeon is complete...

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 221):

Oh, I assure, you, they are not the same folk...

How much is a gold piece worth?
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In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 222):

Seems to me they're $80.  Check the Northport Houserules sticky thread.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 223):

OK, thanks for confirmation: that was how I understood it, but I was not sure if I was reading that right.

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 224):

We are on the copper standard here.

A GATE! He says excitedly as half his disadvantages go off simultaneously...

Half of mine or more, too -- looks like another fight coming up, and I'm shooting from the back while others get clawed up.  Just the way I like it.  :)

How is Dareos doing? I think we're still waiting on him in Return to the Depths, which seems to be coming toward action.

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 228):

Dareos should be good to go, Christine too if she is up for it

In reply to Narrator (msg # 229):

If there are things to be burnt, she is up for it. She just needs to find Aethelbert to get some troll translations.

I believe I saw him upstairs... he has small office there.

In reply to Johan Stark (msg # 231):

Yep. She is headed there right after she finishes the transaction with you, though I am doing them simultaneously  in RL to save time...

Anyone seen Mythos?

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 233):

Not in a  bit. The 9layer said they would be traveling  for a week two weeks ago

Well, perhaps when Dareos and Christine show up we might decide we can carry on without him.  Or maybe he just got hung up somewhere...

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 235):

It would be fine to m8ve on without

In reply to Narrator (msg # 236):


Is there a new contract being discussed and which group should I follow in relation to it?

Return From the Depths is badly in need of a healer. We haven't arranged any income for the job yet.

In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 238):

The job reeks of favors for favors...

In reply to Narrator (msg # 239):

Of course, if we can convince the right folks we've saved them huge amounts of property damage by preventing an epic riot, there might also be some money in it.  ;)

Dareos is a selfless zealot.  Income is good for improving his gear, tithing to the snake temple, and aid for the needy.

So it won't take much to convince him/me to assist since a street war would bring harm to innocents.

In reply to Dareos Madrigar (msg # 241):

And Christine just likes to burn stuff, so she is pretty easy to convince as well...

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 242):

Look its Gorgath!
http://sorcerersskull.tumblr.c...9/art-by-tian-hua-xu

In reply to Narrator (msg # 243):

Also some of yall here gwythaint.ny.instagram.com

Aw, Clarence looks so sad.  We need to get some loot stat!


I think you about hit Jareth spot on!

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 245):

Glad you like them! Clarence is just hung over.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 246):

Be updating  on all fonts tomorrow. Mythos has to cut out for a few weeks, and i believe that is also Gigi, trading with trolls and a day at the dojo will start tomorrow , as well as more on the road to Shevnia.

What about the charging of the staffs?

In reply to Sorsha (msg # 248):

Flat fee of $5 per point to charge, goes the same  for Sorsha 's diamond necklace

How bad is your leg/other injuries, Huey?

In reply to Dareos Madrigar (msg # 250):

Melchizadek will get as many charges put into his staff as possible.

In reply to Dareos Madrigar (msg # 250):

Single self-inflicted injury, down 5 after healing potions, and I heal double due to massive HP. So just need 3hp worth of healing.
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In reply to Huey Thumper (msg # 252):

Please check gwythaint.ny.instagram.com for some better images of some of the critters you have met recently.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 253):

I'd like to see them, but does it require that I subscribe to Instagram?

In reply to Oly (msg # 254):

It should not, but if you are on a mobile device it may try to sign you up

In reply to Narrator (msg # 255)
https://instagram.com/gwythaint.ny/

In reply to Narrator (msg # 256):

That worked, and I might have an existing character for your frog men creatures.
Mine are tropical Forest tree dwellers, rather than water dwellers... and around TL 7 or 8

In reply to Oly (msg # 257):

The frogmen, Centaurs, trolls and others were all part of a commission of a taxonomy  of DF rac3s for a a brasileño  gamer-Mateus  from the forums.

How [long] did we get to rest before being interrupted by the Yr-go and it's Master?
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In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 259):

About 30 seconds after Nodwin ignited his staff.

And Aoife!?

In reply to Aoife (msg # 261):

Given the scale, probably

Re Juniors: LMAO. Well played, GM.

Always fun to talk shop.  A reminder that we're more alike than different.  :)

That Ymid must be a wealthy whatsit -- interplanar data charges have to cost a mint...

In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 265):

:)

In reply to Narrator (msg # 266):

Quick   poll: what do you want Ludlow   to try and do?

I'd like Ludlow to refuse, using the grounds that the effects are too unpredictable to risk near the gate.

In reply to Grimbo (msg # 268):

Very sensible. He might suggest relocating, if so what kind of effect would   you like?
http://www222.pair.com/sjohn/blueroom/whimsy.htm

Pointless, Something is Altered.

Like Ludlow's hair changes to a strange color.

I say the 'problem' should be innocuous, like "My hair is too long/short" or "I don't like my hair color"... but the result should be rolled.

That's how the spells [works] after all...


(Edited in one word)
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Oh, yes. I was just replying to Narrator's question as phrased!

Granted.... I'm just willing to see the dice fall and the disastrous result unfold!

Put me down as hoping for something harmless, too, but as far as what the "problem" might be that Ludlow specifies, probably best it be something personal to him, on the theory that will confine the risk a bit.

In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 274):

As you will it...so mote it be.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 275):

"For the hard to color hair of beards and mustaches..."  <snicker>

"If I dood it, I'll get a whippin'...

"I dood it!"

Oh certainly you can surprise more than a few with a chop or pressure point.

In reply to Oly (msg # 278):

Yep, time for the player to get a crash course in how to play a martial artist.  O.o

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 279):

I have thought of playing one myself.

In reply to Sorsha (msg # 280):

As a minor complication, I don't actually own GURPS Martial Arts...

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 281):

We can kind of fake it. Half of your oponents only have brawling and wrestling.


Btw, the player who picked up Aoife is thinking of bringing in another character. Anyone aside from Juniors need a body?

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 281):

It's $29.95 or so on Warehouse 23 (digital copy)... Classic Martial Arts (actually #e rules) is $10 and with the GMs blessing, might work.

Meh, better off getting the 4th ed one.

In reply to Gorgath (msg # 284):

It is good, but i am trying to use simple, almost lite combat. Ardenas, ever read On a Pale Horse, or others of Incarnations  of Immortality?

There are several less expensive booklets on things like Martial Arts in Yrth and other variations .. one of those might be both simple and cheap. Just a suggestion ... I don't work for SJ Games. Probably get fired if I did...

In reply to Narrator (msg # 285):

I've read the first one for certain, but that was about the era when I figured out Piers Anthony had quit trying to write well because he could sell anything before it was written -- and he was never that great a writer to begin with (though he told a good story, early on).  It's probably been thirty years since I read it, though, and as far as I can recall I haven't read the others.

Oly, I might grab 4th Ed. Martial Arts next payday (Xmas present for myself) -- this fight won't be over by then, most likely.  But meanwhile, if we're keeping it "almost Lite", I can get by on what's in the Basic Set and DF:1

Just familiarize yourself what each skill is good at and try to stick to those kind of attacks.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 287):

I personally think it's pricey... but then I don't think much of martial Arts... at least those that are done unarmed. The only reason to be in an unarmed fight is because you can't have or no one has arms... once any sort of weapon is available, you are a fool not to use it.  My 2¢.

In reply to Oly (msg # 289):

But martial arts is a good supplement to fighting skills. An enemy can not take that away from you, like what Black Widow does at the beginning of the Avengers movies. Now if I have a gun, great but martial arts can come in handy.

GURPS Martial Arts is far, far, far, far more than just unarmed combat.  It's basically an expansion on all man-v-man combat.  New maneuvers, expanded injury rules, new weapons, etc.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 291):

Yeah, it's the "opposite of Lite" combat system expansion.  I should get it, I've got Low Tech 4th Ed., and I like the detailed combat.  Just a matter of when I can spare the money.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 292):

Then we will become gradually more detail   oriented.

I was askien about Piers Anthony, because there was a bit in With a Tangled Skein that showed the god of war entering a dojo...

In reply to Narrator (msg # 293):

Gradual is good.

Darn, I was hoping to avoid doing significant injury to the orcs.  I'm afraid that one's going to leave a mark...

You could 'pull your punches' by doing Defensive Attack Maneuvers (from Martial Arts, pg 100):


-2 damage or -1/die whichever is worse.  If you attempt a Grab your foe defends at +1.
Must chose your defensive bonus before your attack roll:
If attacking with a balanced weapon:  +1 to Parry with any weapon or +1 Block.
If attacking with an unbalanced (U in Parry stat) weapon +1 Parry (or Block) with different weapon (or Shield), or may opt to Parry with the Unbalanced weapon with no bonus.
If kicking, no bonus to your defense, but gain +2 to avoid Leg Grapple and to avoid falling.


[EDIT]
I forgot this part:
Active Defense: You may choose any legal active defense, with bonuses as described above.
Movement: Step. You may step and attack, or attack and then step.
[/EDIT]
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In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 295):

He can count himself lucky he did not pick a fight with the elf, she hardly knows how not to use fire, and that sure leaves a mark...if he lives. Non lethal damage is NOT her forte!

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 297):

Battle scars are a testament to the fortitude of the orc that bears them.

In reply to orc soldier (msg # 298):

Oh come on,then! Give her a kiss...she will give new meaning to 'Hot Lips'!

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 299):

I prefer lighting, so does that make me lighting lips?

Lighting?

Do they glow in the dark?

Perhaps you meant lightNing?

In reply to Gorgath (msg # 301):

Now that we see what happens when three people with
wierdness magnet are in he same group....

In reply to Narrator (msg # 302):

No, I think she meant lighting lips...they light up!

In reply to Narrator (msg # 302):

That's one I've never been tempted to take.  O.o

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 304):

Wait, were you meaning Characters or Players with Weirdness magnets?

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 305):

I can't  talk about the probabiliy manipulation  of players, but one thread has three characters...

In reply to Narrator (msg # 306):

Yeah, I think I know which one it is. But nothing that weird has happened there yet...

In reply to Melchizidek (msg # 307):

"Sure about that?"

Frankly, it never occurs to me to take it -- it tends to disadvantage the whole party, but only one PC gets points for it.

Most Disads tend to/can be 'disads for the whole party':

Absent Minded? Excellent when the Professor forgets to properly secure the cage to the mutant cannibal humanoid underground dweller you've captured and brought back to the base.
Berserk?  It's often a party killer.
Bad Temper?  When he picks a fight with a biker gang...
Curious?  When the Sage opens the heavily locked and warded door with all "DO NOT OPEN" warnings on it...
Impulsive?  When Leroy Jenkins decides to skip the planning stage and aggro the whole dungeon...
And so on.



Personally (as a GM) I dislike Weirdness Magnet because it puts more work on me (as a GM), which is why I never take it as a Player... unless the GM suggests it.  Then sure Mr. Narrator, I'll play into your nefarious and weird plans...

LOL... gee that sounds Familiar...

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 310):

Fair. Let me be more precise. One PC having Weirdness Magnet tends to give the whole party the effects of the specific disadvantage Weirdness Magnet. That, at least to my thinking, makes it different in kind from your counter-examples.

I tend to disallow players from using it... as a GM, I do't want to play it.  But everyone is different, so the Narrator seems to enjoy playing it... and does so pretty well.

Agreed there.

In reply to Grimbo (msg # 314):

Yes. I actually agree with Narrator here. Like Enemies, there are a few disads that make more work for the gm, and since he allows it, he is happy to take advantage of it, and I as a player like to give him thst artistic licence!

It's like Enemy in that way.


Actually recently I came across a write up of "DFing Disads", which was a blog post on how to put 'oomph' back into several disads (Weirdness Magnet was one of them) that has changed my outlook on it.  So, I'm fine now allowing it to my Players, but only in it's new form.

The link:
http://gurpshexytime.blogspot....ur-points-worth.html

Quite interesting... some good ideas...

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 316):

Nice read, thanks.

In reply to Grimbo (msg # 318):

Yes, that gives me some ideas too...

Yeah, I don't GM GURPS anymore, but I still enjoy GM tips :). My health isn't great, so I don't have the energy to GM highly crunchy tactical systems. I know you can turn the dials down on GURPS tactics, and the Narrator mostly has, but I think that would make me feel the loss even more as a GM . . .

I'm actually running a Fantasy AGE game primarily because I wanted to see what would happen when you put 3d6 on a D&D-ish game. It's . . . quirky. The 3d6 work well, but the game is still pretty grid-reliant, at least in a dungeon crawl, so it will probably stop as a one-shot. I actually think D&D 5e would benefit quite a lot from being a 3d6 game, because the scale of modifiers is greatly compressed from recent editions, so the d20 variability overwhelms proficiency.

In reply to Grimbo (msg # 320):

Trading  with trolls:
I thought Rush and Darg were not invited in, and we only had Aoife, Sorsha, Misha, Gorgath, Melchizidek, Lifty and Stark. If you were perm7tting them, I  will eagerly add them to the Narative

That was my understanding as well

Same here.

In reply to Gorgath (msg # 323):

In that case, Stark is leading, the others are auxiliary   to him and the trading (on behalf of the guild and Rush) is being supported by whom? Rush was intended to be the rep for the guild in this matter but yall nixed him coming.

I didn't understand that, but assumed Sorsha was the merchant among us... we can bring Rush along... it's not a big deal.

In reply to Johan Stark (msg # 325):

Sorsha has some specialties similar to those of Hitomi, only magical. Her cousin Mischa  has some mercantile  skill, but is primarily a carpenter specialized in puzzle cabinetry. He can certainly  be a foil to Rush, to keep him honest.

Sounds like a plan to me... who plays Misha? NPC or someone playing?

The GM plays Misha, he is my cousin and alley. We Shadow elves have to stick together :)[Private to Johan Stark: If you want to talk to her privately, I am fine with it.]

Smash them enough and they usually do. :)

In reply to Gorgath (msg # 329):

Actually, Mischa is a male half shadow elf
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A male half?  What's the other half?

Well Shadow undoubtedly...

Half male, half shadow, half elf... that 150% of a person!

Nah... Half Male elf and Half Shadow Elf... it's a 50-50 proposition...

In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 334):

Sigh. My father was a shadow elf, my mother a Shevnian woman.

In reply to Mischa (msg # 335):

Rush and Darg added in. There is a reason.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 336):

Thought there might have been a touch of schizophrenia involved...so many parts!

OK, is someone bothering my cuz?  They better stop!

In reply to Sorsha (msg # 338):

Its allright. I have knives...

We come to the core question.  Hopefully...

Should I assume that I'm tending to the healing needs of orphans and indigents down the street and that nothing noteworthy is happening there?

I'm ok with this, I just don't want anyone to be waiting on me to post when I'm off doing "my thing."

In reply to Dareos Madrigar (msg # 341):

When you left the others, they were fine, but there were sounds of a fight  coming from the orc dojo. Hearing roll at -3 to hear Ardenas  calling for a healer.

Uhuh... the dojo crew really needs a diplomat!

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 343):

Yep, and your progressive ideas about gender equality  are a little ahead of 14th century orcs...

In reply to Narrator (msg # 344):

I can summon a diplomat...of sorts!

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 345):

That would be an ultimatum   not adiplomat. The orc population   in this city is large enough that the streets would run with blood if the jugger team was slaughtered.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 346):

A Technicality she may be Oblivious to...