In reply to Azrael (msg # 960):

when in doubt.. roll and shout!

That's a GM rule, Iskander, not intended for players.

Well, lookee here, the board says OOC3 is getting close to the 1000 post limit...

Also just because you know of a sewer entrance also doesn't mean you know of a way into the Under City, or where the sewers go, how they connect, what directions they run, or what dangers lurk (that would be Area Knowledge (UnderCity) or Area Knowledge (Sewers)).

You could certainly (upon finding yourself in a sewer) use Urban Survival to to recognize a dangerous bit of construction (loose brick work, an arch soon to collapse, etc), a section that floods frequently, and maybe if a dangerous sewer fauna or flora lairs there (maybe?).

I base this on what the rules for Urban Survival say, not actually what our Narrator has said as I never asked about Urban Survival.

However based on what little I've been told about the megadungeon that is the Undercity...  I suspect Urban Survival to be of some use down there (what I mentioned above), but the real useful info skill is Hidden Lore (UnderCity)*.



*  As well as Archaeology (UnderCity), Architecture (UnderCity), Area Knowledge (UnderCity), History (UnderCity), Navigation (UnderCity), and Survival (UnderCity)**.

** It takes a Perk*** to gain access to the UnderCity specialization, Jareth has 3 such perks (to make sure I could cover all those skills and because two of the perks are Contacts (Karlow and Aethebert), and the third gives him the Keys to the Sewer doors).

*** Contact: either Karlow, or Aethebert; or Civil Servant (Courtesy Rank) Sanitation and Sewer Worker (I know of those three for sure).  Also I think the "Lives In The UnderCity" Perk is available with the right background and race.
This message was lightly edited by the player at 14:17, Tue 07 June 2016.

In reply to Chou-Zhen Mou (msg # 962):

We can go an8ther 30 posts before I close  the thread.


Random  conjecture by players, and the occasional bluff can
find its way into true here, but not much else. Yes, Iskander
   and Ales found the baths and library in Sakemoko's place, but could not create content.

If I have a mapped area, you cannot create features with a
die roll. This is not Dungeon  World; you need Serendipity
or spells on the verbotten list to invent entrances. There
may be drains in parts of the street, but not manhole covers;
 those are in locked municipal buildings.
Urban survival might let you know where those are, likewise
it would let you find a route there without passing a guard,
or let you know where you can find unguarded  drinking water,
 a dry place to sleep out of sight, or which neighbohoods have
 snipers on the roof.

Rough neighborhood.

Not as rough as the ones that can't afford them.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 965):

definately NOT mr roger's neighborhood.. xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt1yTEt414Y
This message was last edited by the player at 14:44, Tue 07 June 2016.

In reply to Iskander (msg # 967):

Wow. I just got an rtj from a player I bl8cked for disruption.
(This was the player of Zarrat, Ximmiv and at one point, Molag.)
Naturally they wanted to play a Guildmaster and pull rank.

Good Grief! ... a guild master? Perhaps as an ornery Kobald...

In reply to Oly (msg # 969):

Lol, perhaps an ex-Guildmaster...who has been outlawed by the guild and has a price on his head. Details he does not need to be aware of initially...

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 970):

Naturally, that was a declined offer. I am open to players, but significant  disruption (Grend, Jin, be aware) can get one booted, and that doesn't get undone.

Lets carry on tomorrow.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 971):

jin is lawful evil..... lol

In reply to Iskander (msg # 972):

and that's cool! just don't be so bludgeoning

Sorry for the long absence, but I was in the hospital dealing with an infection and out of commission.

In reply to Ales Konstantin (msg # 974):

try and announce it in leave taking. i thought you bailed on us

Will do in future.

In reply to Ales Konstantin (msg # 976):

Feel better Ales!

In the mean time, I am on a deadline for the WhiteStar stock Art project; today I got 3 and a half pieces in, and I have a
minimum of three more to do. This is the largest project I have worked on without being commissioned. To see what has been taking me away from you all,  click here:
https://www.facebook.com/denis...mp;type=3&__nodl

Oren my man, It's not at all passive aggressive ... it's passive defensive ... We have already had one blow up ... he's not about to instigate another. That said, he certainly doesn't like your style of leadership... if that is what it is ...

No, bitching about Oren in ways that can't be addressed or responded to in-character, that's passive aggressive.

It wasn't what you were saying, it was how you were expressing it.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:38, Fri 10 June 2016.

In reply to Oren (msg # 979):

OK... I don't see it that way... but I'll try to omit such in the future.

In reply to Syvanus (msg # 980):

I agree if the characters can't see it, don't say it. Having said that, there is a lot of communication to be had from facial expressions and mood, ie non-verbal communication. If that is being used, it is fine to type it.

On the flip side, it is also fine to respond to it...

Oh yeah, describing what your character is doing and how they're acting is fine, because that's something people can react to.

Sniping at other PCs through your character's thoughts and unexpressed feelings is less good.

In reply to Oren (msg # 982):

Yes, let us not post thoughts. It is meta AND player baiting.

That said, I do feel something I am going to express directly and privately.
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:08, Sat 11 June 2016.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 983):

uh oh..

In reply to Iskander (msg # 984):

Let's not needle each other.