And here we are again!

@Amara happy for you to detail Vinga as you see fit for your clan.

Angelika as a Sartarite will follow the Vinga is Orlanth or his sister path, as will those encountered in Pavis.

It's just mildly annoying to have Vinga be mythically Orlanth and nothing more.

Why have Vinga as a seperate entity? Why don't women just follow one of the aspects of Orlanth instead?

To me Vinga is a seperate entity and has a subtly different role.
It's still violent, but with a more feminine and defensive and protective theme.

Sister is grand but in my view Vinga isn't Orlanth in a female aspect.

And out in the Wastes that is so.

It definitely makes more sense to have Vinga as Orlanths sister because she is so much more than just a female version of Orlanth.

First thing in the a.m. Hosk will be hot footing it to the Sages to tell them if they want in it's now. Imagine this might well be 'taken as read' but wanted to make it clear.

Pfft, I will heroquest in this game to make her her own separate entity everywhere.

I think if anything thanks to her rune
She's probably the get out and let your hair down aspect of Ernalda.
You know when you're married to someone for ages, bits of the person you marry rub off on you?
Well...Vinga is that aspect of Ernalda that thinks she's the equal of any man, yet cares for the little ones because someone needs to keep an eye on them when the men are out fighting and drinking and has picked up more than a little from the hubby.

I can quote no canon to back this up, but largely agree. The protecting wind. The Ernalda that fights because she cares so much it hurts. She who is often more than merely equal.

I see this issue as another one of those issues of the Gloranthan world which is vague, allowing peoples' version of Glorantha to vary.

In some, Vinga can be an incarnation of Orlanth, and the Orlanthi recognition of various sexes and genders mirrors this.  In others, Vinga can be the daughter of Orlanth.

Personally, I like to think of Vinga as a different entity instead of a sub-cult  :)

BTW, are the Rangers part of the night time sentries, or are we leaving that to the Zebra riders?
This message was last edited by the player at 02:42, Fri 17 Feb 2017.

I see her as a totally free standing goddess, not a sub cult. But in line with canon that she is Orlanth. That said I'm happy for there to be different interpretations coz that's Glorantha innit :)

If the Guide to Glorantha is canon, then it refers to both:
- Vinga is an aspect of Orlanth
- Vinga is a warrior daughter of Ernalda

Perhaps this is a mystery, like the Christian God being both father and son  :)
This message was last edited by the player at 08:31, Fri 17 Feb 2017.

Totally! And it varies everywhere I should think.

I wonder did the Praxians have a spirit/hero who they then supplanted with Vinga? Like Yelmalio is Sun Daughter.

In reply to Kobal (msg # 11):

A model perhaps more akin to Sabellianism than Christian trinitarianism (i.e. two modes/aspects as opposed to two hypostases-persons in consubstantial homoousios-union), but that would certainly cover it as a viable mystery.

So, yes. What Kobal said [and I see our GM has just liked too] sounds good to me.

I saw this https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dsY...B/s1600/100_6466.JPG on a wargaming blog and thought of Amara.

I can go with the idea of Vinga as a separate goddess as I tend to think that Gloranthan canon is less fixed than a lot given the amount of times Greg has contradicted himself over the years.

Fricking Hippolytus and his power games...

I miss the days when gender wasn't a thing. Orlanth was for everyone for example.

Well, Glorantha has been changed so often.

I still believe every God is open to every worshipper. (babeester gor and men might be one exception), which is why I thought women that wanted an adventurous life would pick Orlanth.

That's why I think Vinga is quite seperate to Orlanth, they do different things.

In Prax, I think the female warrior spirit would have to be Grandmother Thorntree in her earlier days

Okay family is gone. Back to normal :)

You lot are a good 100m above the settlement. There's no track down there and the last way down was an hour back the way you came.

You haven't dropped down to the valley floor yet.

In reply to GM (msg # 19):

Didn't realise it was so far down, Melock will get near to the edge and look for any signs of movement or recent activity.

X is where you lot are, settlement is below. You do have a local with you and others who may have come this way before.

I'm coming down with something again. I hope it may not be the flu I had last month mutating for another go.

Hope you're feeling better soon.  Feeling sick sucks.

Gosh I hope not too. Get well soon.

You lot will come to a seasonal river that flows down via a waterfall to the valley floor below. Not far past will be a way to get down with mounts. A ride roll will be needed if you decide to ignore Angelika and go investigate the burnt stead.

oh...ignoring her is allowed?

Let me do that instead.

Passed a Spot Hidden to notice Amara ride off  :)
Does Amara have a familiar at the moment?  I forget if she got one after the exploding kitten.

I do in fact have a familiar. Spot is his name

Oh, okay.  For some reason, I thought Spot was the name of your first familiar.

Grimalkin was the name of my original familiar.

Yoir funeral. Disobeying her before your initiation...

I had the same thought.  Angelika's given a direction.  And will likely be involved in any intiation test.  Even if something good comes of this, you'll need to admit to going off against orders.

It could be a test to see how far you've willing to go to help and protect the weak and innocent, maybe she wants Amara to disobey her :)

Melock made a spot hidden as well.

So Melock you're heading off too? Are you on Stinky?

In reply to GM (msg # 35):

If Amara wants company, if not Melock will ride along side Angelika and try to keep her occupied by asking lots of questions about Pavis and random stuff.

He is on Stinky and if the trail looks suitable he'll stay mounted, if he goes.

@Kobal, I'm surprised you suggested Melock :)

So am I, but Melock did show interest in heading off earlier.  I wasn't sure if he was going to stick to obeying Angelika or not.  Plus, I figured that if the goal is try to scout while not being detected, hopefully a Raven might be able to help with that.

(After-thought: if Angelika's going to be upset, better it be a Thunder Bird and one Raven than, say, two Thunder Birds  :P  )
This message was last edited by the player at 09:45, Mon 20 Feb 2017.

In reply to Kobal (msg # 37):

He's already on Angelika's shit list, so he's got nothing to loose :)

So, the link between someone and their familiar is secret, a Mindlink, but the chatter between familiars has to be spirit speech between them doesn't it, each has no special link to the other?

In this case they'd have to be shouting familiar to familiar across the spirit plain unless they close the distance and whisper to each other?

And I dare say a Priestess will have their own familiar or allied spirit listening out on the spirit plain chatter.... just saying....

Hmm, good point, Ohanzee.  I didn't think of the actual mechanics of how spirits communicate to each other.  The rules state that spirits can use Spirit Speech within a range of 1m per point of POW.  On the one hand, that means the familiars will have to move close to each other.  On the other hand, it's unlikely with a large caravan that Angelika will overhear, unless she's got familiars spread out across the caravan.

Looking at the RQ Classic rules, I note that there's an update there that states that bound spirits (whether in an object, or in an animal) can't sense the POW of spirits around them.  Seems like we're not playing that rule in this game.

Thats why Dorcha flew to Amara, less chance of being over heard.

In  this game two players could be nearly 10km away and have their two familiars halfway and thus speak to each other.

Pc> mindspeech<familiar> spiritspeech<familiar>mindspeech<Pc

Communication between familiars/boundspirits is their POW in metres. So yes other spirits can overhear if close enough.

Angelika has an allied spirit in her spear. It's called Hailstone.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:57, Mon 20 Feb 2017.

well, if Melock wants to he can come along.

To be honest, it's precsely because the ravens have a habit of going off and doing their own thing that I'm doing this.

So Amara has been lead a stray by the Ravens?

In reply to Melock (msg # 44):

Ravens use lead ashtrays? I guessed you were Uz friendly, but that's taking it a bit far.

16:52, Today: Ohanzee Shappa rolled 55 using 1d100.  Ride (80). if needed to get it to trot, or at least walk on.

They're good for throwing at people, though they're too big to use as sling stones :)

I might just have done the most utterly stupid thing Hosk has ever perpetrated IC...which is saying a good deal. Sometimes, one must play a teen like a teen. :)
This message was last edited by the player at 19:22, Mon 20 Feb 2017.

Hopefully Hoskar will distract Angelika from the stupid thing Melock and Amara are doing :)

If he does, you might need to throw me a rope to get me out of the thirty-two sorts of shite which will close over my head if I have just pinpointed our whereabouts to enemies. In Hoskar's head the noise reminds him of the footfall of the mount be heard in "The Wasted Khan", and if that proves to be the correct interpretation I'd best buy a few lottery tickets.

When you're a teenager, you'll do anything for your friends :-)

Avalarn and Delenda are friends of mine :-)

Most of you should run screaming.


Well done Hoskar :-)

The Rhino is a rare beast found in the Wastes, called a Granite Rhino. Anyone making a Prax lore roll will know this. They are feared by most creatures and are supposedly made from stone, and legend has it that the original ones were created by Mostali.

None of you have seen one before, though you know of people who have.

He's called Rocky :)

Nice one, rhino stone cowboy

This is very funny :)

I like it too....

I suspect when the others find out what my request of Great Rhino was, that we will have words again.


13:02, Today: Amara Brightsky rolled 57 using 1d100.  Listen.
Yeah....I fail....just.

If Angelika doesn't rumble Melock and Amara, they're going to have to act not surprised when they finally see it :)

Very nice Ohanzee, whoever you leave it with while you're in Pavis won't know what to do with it :)

Yes, it isn't quite what I had in mind when I spoke to Great Rhino. Quite a surprise :)

Thanks for giving the game away Ohanzee :)

Too excited about my new friend to remember to be cunning :)

Ravens... always finding a way to cause trouble  :)

Take it into Pavis and Ginkizzie will nick it faster than you can say, "I appeal to the city ruling council. What? You are the ruling council? Er."

Oh, we have far far bigger problems than that :-)

We do now that Angelika has worked out who's missing :)

We're 16.

I think I'll have a field day talking about the hypocrisy if I get into big trouble for this.

I'm expecting Amara to blame Melock for leading her a stray.

It is your fault. Don't deny it.
I blame the ravens for getting away with this so many times it is de facto operating procedure.

In reply to Amara Brightsky (msg # 67):

if it had been Ohanzee and Melock then they'd have been back before Angelika noticed they had gone :)

Can we hear Angelika where we are? :)

From the capitalisation on her last question reiteration, I imagine they probably heard her in Safelster. :)

IC I'm not sure if I saw Amara and Melock edging off...but I do know I don't know where they are now.

All you can hear is ringing in your ears sunshine...

From the IC narrative, I've taken the view I didn't see exactly where Amara and Melock peeled off: it was too close to the noise we heard and I was suddenly looking elsewhere is my take on the timeline. Barring other input from PCs/NPCs, I'll be tracking back looking for signs of departure and likely routes off, likely with emphasis on gullies downward.

I'll post track roll and scout plains roll here as an edit in a moment.

12:05, Today: Hoskar Two-Feather rolled 42 using 1d100.  scout t90.
12:04, Today: Hoskar Two-Feather rolled 75 using 1d100.  track t50.

So I guess I might well reconstruct a likely leaving route or two but find nothing to say they went that way. Subject to GM interpretation of course
This message was last edited by the player at 12:17, Thu 23 Feb 2017.

I will wait to see if anyone else wishes to join Hoskar and Ohanzee.

I do believe that a ride roll was needed to descend (assuming we get that far :)

12:29, Today: Ohanzee Shappa rolled 7 using 1d100.  Ride (80).

Here's a picture of Feldspar (it's bronze, but in the light the photo was taken does look like polished stone :)

Thats a good picture Ohanzee, is it African in origin?

In reply to Ohanzee Shappa (msg # 74):

Amazing rhino indeed.

I forgot the Ride roll bit...
13:52, Today: Hoskar Two-Feather rolled 15 using 1d100.  ride (70). [sigh of relief - not a good moment for a fumble]

Looks like a Ride Roll is required

14:21, Today: Temush Blinking-cloud rolled 13 using 1d100.  Ride Roll (55).

I did a trawl and found it online. Just looked appropriate

Onyx Ox...

In reply to Temush Blinking-cloud (msg # 79):

I like the way they've chipped the rock to give it texture.
How are you feeling Temush? Better I hope :)

Yes, thanks it came and went quite quickly, less bad than last month, maybe it was a relapse. Still coughing a lot though.

Is this some kind of reverse Gringle's Pawnshop, where we have to attack the baboons in the building...?

I've assumed we're too far off for Det Enemies, but will cast it en route [1 extra POW behind it in case of 1pt Detection blank] if people like my hokey plan to make sure no-one's hiding ready to pull me off my rhino.

The farmhouse is quite intact with the fire damage and broken doors. The two barns are badly damaged with collapsed roofs.

D is Dorcha.

Kobal casts Protection 3 on himself, Black Hoof and Ram, drawing the POW from Haaro.

Temush casts Shimmer 2 on himself with POW from Gleam of Gold

What's the farmhouse built out of? If it's wooden or adobe and stuffed full of enemies, it occurs to me a rhino or two could create a very large breach in its wall quite readily at a point stuffed full of enemies to lessen the chance of trampling captives. Especially with one Rhino being made of stone.
Whereas if it's stone-built it's no-go on that one.

I'm clear we're charging in one form or another: my pathetic 1pt countermagic on me, Strength on me (plus on Ram if battering down a wooden wall is an idea).

Anyone else want Strength? Touch shield IC or ask me to cast it.
This message was last edited by the player at 11:43, Fri 24 Feb 2017.

Adobe for sure, with wooden timbers.

Bisons can smash through too.

Not much help for those of us on Zebras

I assume Hoskar gives the count and location of the detected enemies?

In reply to Ohanzee Shappa (msg # 92):

Hadn't IC, but have now - at least all the info our GM fed me. If I need to recast for precise location, assume I tell you over the weekend at least: I'm unlikely to get more post time till Monday.

Dozen enemies from Hoskar's detect enemies.

Then when Henal casts Dt life from the edge of the vegetation he picks up 6 more life forms in the vegetation to the South East and the 12 in the farmhouse.

Hoskar recasting then picks up 18 enemies.

Does the dead baboon look like a pin cushion too?

Countermagic on Feldspar and self, bludgeon on mace. Going through the building and out the other side for the 6 in the opening >)

Lance held close and trailing behind and shield is for missile cover, but as we go through the building going to duck close down on the rhino and hold it over my head/body.

Then, assuming emerge the other side, bring lance around and shield up again.

EDIT: Use Kangee's POW and send him to hide in cover.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:30, Fri 24 Feb 2017.

No, looks like he was stabbed.

Kobal was told by a Rune Lord in 2013 that Hash Fa'Kash died in battle.
link to a message in this game

He didn't see Hash die, but it was a rune lord speaking  :)

Dam these Baboons they all look the same to me. Divine intervention? ;)

Will go fix.

Actually im going to keep it as Hash. Glorantha is odd. And Divine intervention is a thang. Or perhaps he was brought back to life by Baba.

Double the tragedy :(

I now have this image of Highlander the Baboon for some reason. "There can only be one!"

Why did this group detect as enemies? Well they had no idea who you were and thought you were enemies. Plus Hoskar never met them.

The clay pass is with someone in Kobal's group.

Yeah, looking back it was Avalarn who had it last. So It's with either Hoskar, Temush or Henal, as neither Ohanzee or Kobal have it and I know Amara and Melock don't.

If only :)

yep

In reply to GM (msg # 104):

Avalarn seems to have been riding fairly close to Delenda off and on. Doubt if U'd have had it.

Somebody just decide to have it without over thinking it please.

Damn. Sorry. Overthinking is my speciality. 12W3 at least.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:36, Sun 26 Feb 2017.

In reply to Hoskar Two-Feather (msg # 109):

We're all prone to doing sometimes, though normally it's over talking it :)

So Amara and Melock were on foot?  But then Melock's footprints disappear and so there are only Amara's footprints and the tracks of their 2 mounts?

Also, just checking: was Amara on zebra and Melock on bison?

Temush can see a Hawk in the distance. It could just be wildlife, but it's best to assume that we are under observation as we approach the village.

Yes and yes

As a Sun Hawk Temush is the least likely nomad to get killed on sight... I'd not remind you about stuff like this around a table, but hey PBP is a different thang :)

Thanks, GM  :)
By the same token, it'd be best for Temush to have the tablet/disk.  More credible for him to have it, rather than a Raven  :P

Darkness worshippers they use as target practice.

So continue following the tracks?

I'd vote yes.  Just to clarify: the IC post about Kobal searching the area wasn't intended to mean spending a long time trying to work out what happened to Melock.

Trying to ride into the village square might be considered a provocation. Do we want to send in a couple of negotiators while the others mind the mounts on the outskirts? Say Kobal with Hoskar and Temush to try to translate whatever languages the officials insist on using? Is there anything about the tablet that wasn't covered in the chat with Angelika and Avalarn at the Wall?

Also bear in mind that Temush has to avoid lying, on pain of all sorts of dire consequences from Sun Hawk. This may not always be an advantage in negotiations.

Furthermore, even if the Head Goldenhair uses only Trade-talk, Firespeech, or New Pavic, they may have a desert-scout in the entourage who is fluent in Praxian.

Temush, we should talk IC. You are clearly best placed to click with the Sun mob - we could do with sorting out how Johnny Communication Rune can best augment you.

Approaching from the bottom right hand corner in the river, just above where it says Rory's well.

We might not know it but I think they speak a Saratite dialect day-to day in Sun County, which is not to say that they may not insist on Trade Talk because we're foreign, or Firespeech for the records...

Remember you are Praxians and these people are settlers. Interlopers on land rightfully yours.

Yeah, and to behave unlike nomads is going to raise more suspicion than being nice might quell.

Sorry guys, but I'm just playing like a nomad and doubly so because I would act more like Waha now that ink initiated.

No one had actually said give me the disc IC by the way.

Shouldn't you be smashing the gate down then? :)

I'm happy either way, but it was my understanding that all the Ranger men had initiated to Waha before we left the tribe, and it was only Amara who had declined the option to stretch tradition and initiate herself.

Nope, some chose not to and I thought you were one, I'm fairly certain Hoskar was :)

That may be so, and so Kobal has no desire to walk.  But just because the Yelmalians are invaders doesn't mean that 4 braves need to ride up to a walled settlement, where presumably 2 of their band are held hostage (or worse), and act like there's no danger.  We're riding in using a clay disk created by the Yelmalian invaders that Kobal doesn't trust, which has squiggles on it (which Kobal can't read) which supposedly will make everything okay.  A Praxian wouldn't trust to any of this, so I think there's a lot of risk involved, and not a time to act as if we're masters of the land.



Kobal is an initiate, certainly.
This message was last edited by the player at 09:53, Tue 28 Feb 2017.

Kobal wears Yelmalion armour, found on one of the three dead Yelmalions discovered in the scorpion cave near where Greeshar's rhino was killed and Grandmother Spider first met. Up near the GFHs.

Despite his portrait the officer is bearded and wears gold armour.

I've screwed up IC. Hosk was in two minds but initiated with the Red Thorns to Waha - he was in two minds for ages because he's primarily Issaries but in the end I thought it made IC sense because doing this with a different tribe would be a gesture of harmony. And as Kobal has rightly mentioned IC recently, he does tend to overdo his "assumptions of friendship"...even when it's a tribal enemy involved.

Ohanzee knew this not IC. don't know how telling folks slipped Captain Voluble's mind.

me and my bloody harmony focus. Not even one of his runes - just something continual worship of Goodword kind of leeches into one's system.

D'oh! Forgot about that, even though I describe the armour as Yelmalion on the character sheet. Will post IC later - on my mobile phone at the moment.

It probably should be one of his runes. Hoskar comes across a suitably conflicted all the time. Good stuff.

So did Amara...

Yeah, but I thought our free pass would let us go with it. :-)

Still, it's just a big problem until we can obtain some more.
Or negotiate a settlement that allows us to keep it.


I wonder how he'd react if I threatened Sun County with drought :-)

Probably get very worried. Where is the container?

I think we left it at the GFH

Yes. The safest place for it.

Kinda depends on how much this guy annoys us :-)

I know where my vote is going.

It won't be good for your blood pressure to get annoyed every time you meet a Domer - Pavis will be swarming with them :-)

if they raise my blood pressure....well there won't be many of them left....in the long run.

all the more reason to set the drought on them!

Hahaha
:(



Or the worst place, if loosed there.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:14, Tue 28 Feb 2017.

well as far as I remember Ohanzee and I buried it under the floor in our initiation chamber.

This is enemy God and spirit territory. Something that Praxians wouldn't generally feel okay about. But hey you lot are heroes...

We sure did :)

Morning. Henal, I pointed to the initiated and that included you and Kobal. It didn't include Temush cos he's not behaving like an initiate and didn't include Hoskar cos likewise plus I didn't know he was initiated at the GFH

Like Hoskar, Temush is a harmony dude and was never really going to be a Waha poster boy. He blames his family's deaths on clan raiding, he's going to question Waha, even if he is a confused initiate. Bringing back the Green is not very Waha either, if it comes to it

It's kind of unavoidable to initiate with Waha or Eiritha as a nomad of a certain age (unless you have a family connection or calling to an outsider god) so I can see an argument that he would not have stood back when the men initiated after the Weddings.

I did make the case that he had not 'proved himself in battle' to the Prairie Thunder, but as I remember it the decision was that all were initiated. Spirits of reprisal, here I stand, I can do no other...

In reply to Ohanzee Shappa (msg # 148):

Agreed, Ohanzee. I'm in a weird spot. never going to progress further in Waha but initiated there before Issaries which is my primary affiliation. So still mainly "acting Issaries" out there.

If it helps understand at all, my character runes include Sky rather than Air (yep - I'm a freak); which might go some way to explaining why I'm a bit nicer to Johnny Yelmalion than the average Nomad.

Prep for tower: I'll armour up in the Wyvern version not the plate in case of climbing, and will have sword/shield/rope with me. Would prefer not to draw a sword where the Sun County mob can see after I've played the talker, so it stays sheathed outside. Let the Yelmalions consider it ceremonial if they want. :)

It's all good, I like what you guys are doing and pre-initiation Ohanzee would have done the same, except as a Darkness worshipper it wouldn't have got him anywhere anyway.

Not that I think that it will limit us here, but Cults of Prax says that Waha initiates worship only with associated cults (Eiritha and Stotmbull). They also have to obey all orders from their chieftains.

Being a darkness worshipper got Melock somewhere, though I doubt Ohanzee would want what Melock got :)

If we were playing it that strict here, I reckon our wonderful GM would probably have tipped me the wink what with me planning on being Big In Issaries if I don't snuff it on the way. So I agree - OGWD methinks.

And I fully intend to obey all orders: crikey I hopped to it the moment I got an order of one A. Snowspear.

:)

OGWD???

Our Glorantha will digress?

Well, naturally only being a lay eiritha member and well, a lay Vinga member too.
And a lay Zola Fel....

In fact.... the only society I'm initiated in is Thunderbird. Of course I was going to ride off and check things out.

My opinion has not changed.

Drought. Sun County. Happening imminently.

That's the ticket. :) Either "Digress" or "Differ" would work for me. Think it was originally the "YGWD" with the "Y" meaning "Your", but I might be misremembering (hectic week - no time to check references, sadly).

Just waiting for those going to the tower to post that they're going there. I have two of you. Melock and Amara I'll post for you on the morrow too. Off to bed.


Keeping it loose for maximum gaming fun really when it comes to cults. Hoskar is an initiate of Waha but when initiated into Issaries this will be his main cult (I'm presuming).

All the lads worship Waha and can branch out. To me the important ones are the three feathered rivals, which would be part of spirit societies in the heroquest glorantha.

Please Sir, me too Sir, "Temush... Collect[s] Stomp and head[s] up to the towers"

In reply to GM (msg # 157):

Dead right. Bifurcated chap. Waha important, Issaries paramount.

Trickster Raven dominant, Granny 8 legs scary :)

Sorry, been busy and unwell.  Will catch up when I can.

It's outside the story of Waha, but I don't think it's inconsistent with the cult.  Waha is about (all types of creatures) surviving on the land, and bringing back the Green would make that easier.



Haven't had time to read IC thread yet, but Kobal will be in it.  The quicker we complete the task, the quicker we can go back to the caravan to be disemboweled by Angelika.

Are there windows to these towers?
And was Amara released to join us?  Or does she remain held with Melock?

Edit: okay, just found a past post that the towers are windowless.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:30, Thu 02 Mar 2017.

Yes windowless, but likely open to the sky at the top.  Round towers.

Amara was whisked away, so no she isn't with you.

I guess our ropes aren't long enough to do a Schwarzenegger Conan the Barbarian climb-up-the-tower-with-grapping hooks?  :P

For sure you can, though you have no grappling hooks, perhaps a heavy weight? You can certainly try and climb it.

Don' forget that the Sun County officer said not to damage the towers.

yeah, my first thought was to use our mounts (or the stone rhino) to butt the entrance down  :P

Kobal will look for cover from Bright Treasure that he can run quickly too.  If none, there's nothing for it but to run away from the doorway (and everyone else) as fast as he can...  :(

Is the bricked up doorway recessed so can Saturday in it in the shade?

No it's isn't recessed.

How about if someone with a flying familiar gets the spirit to fly up to the top and fly in to scout around? :p

Remind me why it is we have so few flying familiars with the Rangers? :-)

Ohanzee is like the kid who can't help but press the massive button that says don't push. A GM's wet dream really.

As Ohanzee is engulfed once more by a salamander what are the rest of you doing?

ohshitohshitohshit

Well, something had to be tried, and Hosk had no ideas. Bit short of entry points. I'll do an IC in a moment...
This message was last edited by the player at 16:36, Thu 02 Mar 2017.

Kobal casts Protection 3 on himself before attacking the salamander.  If he get the chance during any round of combat, he will try to cast Protection 3 on Ohanzee.

Temush aims to get Ohanzee away from the salamander and the tower either on Feldspar or dragged by him in some way. He'll try to stay on the cooler side of Feldspar and lasso some part of the Raven brave with some rein or rope or anything that he can get hold of that might do the job.

Incidentally, I am "trying something" here - not just cowering out of range. Not that you can see that IC, of course.

You can do this no problem.

Henal and Kobal will you still attack the beast? Ohanzee killed his previous one easily but was very lucky he wasn't killed himself.

It's like stepping into a bonfire.

Ohanzee manages to scramble away before you get there. Feldspar won't move without Ohanzee, but does give full protection from the heat to those standing behind him. Though he will be damaged himself.

Face palm moment. I have a weapon especially potent against fire/sky types and forgot I had it. What an anus. Sorry, everyone. Very much like the muddled boy I'm playing, I suppose.

You're not the only one who forgets things, if I remember correctly after finding those sling stones, one of the encounters we had soon after was against followers of the sun and I totally forgot about them :)

Kobal will now try to withdraw.  He only waded in with sword since it looked like Ohanzee was going to be overhelmed otherwise.

Instead of Protection on Ohanzee, he'll now try to cast Binding on the elemental.



I looked through Kobal's character details but didn't find anything particularly useful.  In the Wastes and Prax, fire attacks are probably particularly useful, since it's unlikely people will have a lot of water magics.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:33, Fri 03 Mar 2017.

I can find water....which is why I should totally be the scout.

Oh...and actually, I should probably give that matrix to Ohanzee.

ITEM:A split rod
NAME: The Big Stick what finds water
ACTIVATION: Can only be activated by a River serpent.
METHOD OF ACTIVATION: Walk with the stick in hand, trip up, and fall into the water soruce. The user must then shout at the top of their lungs "I found water" or the water source dries up.

Summon undine would be handy.

But you need to have some water available to summon it.  I'm not sure how much though.

I'd allow a largish water skin.

You lot have got the salamander sorted. Will post IC when i get home.

Darkwall over the top of the tower would be handy, now who had that matrix :p

In reply to Ohanzee Shappa (msg # 188):

Kobal has one as well

Does he? How deliciously Darkness of him :)

I see it's got a range of 80m.  Presumably the tower is less than 80m in height.  Good idea, Ohanzee.  I was thinking of using the Darkwall to protect against Sunspears, but doubt a 2 point battle magic spell would be protection against a rune spell.  But wonder if it would work over the tower itself...



I mentioned previously, I think, that it would help with raiding rival clans  :)

Darkness in half an hour...

Hoskar how close are you to the wall? Make a spot Hidden.

In reply to GM (msg # 193):

Far enough my shadow won;t fall on it: I guess 10ft this time of evening. I imagine I see Sweet F.A. because...

6:43, Today: Hoskar Two-Feather rolled 95 using 1d100.  Spot hidden t50.

I'll probably not even manage a 'phone posting over the weekend: see you Monday
This message was last edited by the player at 17:01, Fri 03 Mar 2017.

The rope is long enough to reach the ground on the outside and then the inside. Will presume Hoskar stays below for now and attaches the rope to a Rhino.

Will wait and see if Henal and Kobal are helping.

At the moment Temush and Ohanzee are on the top of the tower.

In reply to GM (msg # 195):

No time for a proper IC but you assume right. Hosk happy with proposed actions. Thinks whatever's in there is likely shaman work. And yes I had rope and was intending any climber could use it.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:50, Sat 04 Mar 2017.

Henal will join in and cast spirit shield on himself.

Sorry, I seem to have major problems with my computer at home. May need to reinstall Windows and everything. Will catch up when I can.

Oh, bugger Ohanzee's dead and we've got some kind of nasty undead down there too. Though I thought the raven might crow "Nevermore".

Any ideas guys, I think that I can try a befuddle spell to try and give us some time or cancel the spirit shield and put up a lot of countermagic, but wondering about getting in close enough to try and use my humakti sword to put down real death.

Sometimes when the GM puts a big button somewhere that says "do not push" on it somewhere....it means "do not push"

I'm afraid I cannot really help out here.

Damn, Ohanzee that was careless :)

Where's the nearest place to find someone with resurrection?

Who would help you? New Pavis.

As a reminder Wardings cause multiple disruptions depending on the power of the spell. I don't eat you feeling that it's impossible to get down. Just painful and potentially fatal.

Pretty sure some of you have Vigor spells.

Sun Dome...Mwa ha ha ha haha....Ahem.

That thought had crossed my mind. I wonder if the undead thing can help?

Mwa ha ha ha

Sorry I'll stop now...

Henal has vigour and good HP, so I need to work out what spell combo is most likely to get him down in a fit state to stick it to the undead thing with his sword.

Vigour and a strength spell would be good. Plus any healing potions or healing matrixes.

In reply to GM (msg # 208):

Brought my Heal 4 matrix (in shield) with me, still have to get past the ward non-incapacitated mind! Otherwise I'll be keeping Ohanzee company pretty soon.

can't help with the rest... Vigour can't be combined with Strength can it?

Henal will be fine with his high hps especially with vigour cast. Temush will survive if he casts vigour but will possibly need healing.

Mmm probs right about str and vigour.

Blimey. I leave everyone healthy on Friday and come back to this. Yikes.


[Mutters aloud]...Think, man. Think. No good doing Det Traps - those up above know the Warding's there now...Strength and Vigor can't be combined...um.

Let's face it, as you can tell from the IC I'm fair flummoxed.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:16, Mon 06 Mar 2017.

Kinope's sacred water would be very good against Salamanders.

Ain't got no vigour, I'll just have to hope it's a limb and not a max damage roll, (and that I don't fall off the rope when I lose the use of a limb - though Mother Ostrich seems to look after me when I fall ridiculous distances).

Ready for this Henal?

one of us will answer Hoskar before we do anything dramatic...

Henal can cast vigour on you.

Going back to Waha. Being an Initiate of him means that you can deal with all aspects of the clan and take part in its rites and heroquests. It doesn't need to be your main cult, so you can of course go ahead and initiate into something you feel suits your adventurer.

I take it we don't see Ohanzee's spirit?

Temush will offer to heal any remaining damage to Henal first (power from gleam of gold before his own) then he'll check if Ohanzee's really dead.

Ohanzee's spirit is long gone on the journey to the happy hunting ground.

Ok, so we have something of a plan. Henal will cast vigour on himself and Temush using power from his familars, then they can head down into the tower. Henal will lead - he has 12 points of healing herbs on his character sheet so can use that as well as his healing 2 to try and deal with the injuries.

I have just tried to force through a chance for Hosk to know what's happening IC while being outside the tower operating the Rhino Lifting Gear. If this is not okay, I can edit this to me musing privately.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:49, Mon 06 Mar 2017.

Wow, wasn't expecting that.  But it makes sense the tower would be warded.  I presume the ward sticks are buried in the walls or something.

Computer still down (typing at work on lunch  break).  Had to do fresh re-install of Windows on my computer.  Twice.  Will be spending spare time when I'm home the next few days just adjusting settings, re-installing my usual software etc, so I might not have time to post much.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:17, Tue 07 Mar 2017.

School holidays here, so will get a proper IC post out in a while.

Mr yellow beard did say clear the tower out :)

Well IC it is either very good or very bad, but not sure which with the sun worshippers.

I hope it's not a massive sun spear :)

In reply to Henal Longgrass (msg # 223):

Given the Cut Scene, I think the Sunny Boys will be orgasmically delighted.

Despite the bright, sun strength, light everyone can see fine. Well it's dark outside but no one has nasty sun spots or permanent blindness.

In reply to GM (msg # 226):

One mild edit coming up. :)

I mean now that the light has gone.

Henal no spirits or life or undead around.

Hoskar you are too far away from the compound to see anyone. Plus it is now dark. :)

Ic post in a bit. Just got home from Husky dog sledding in the snow!

Henal and Temush get hit by the warding. Temush is badly fried but alive. Henal re cast Vigour. So used a fair bit of spirit pow.

In reply to GM (msg # 230):

Fair cop. For the moment let's assume he was hoping someone might have popped out fo see the light show  :)

Still re-installing/configuring everything on my computer, so limited time.

It's been over 30 degrees (Celcius) every day for a couple of weeks here now.

Been a busy day for me (inopportune moment when there's bargaining afoot), but Temush you've put it brilliantly. I'll pipe down till I see what Lightbody's attitude is, maybe play second fiddle if you get rebutted. (not trying to be meta- here: just a bit of signalling for our GM not to wait for me to pipe up)

Mythologically speaking we should have had a thunderbird beating up the sun priest.

And the ravens should have failed, though Ohanzee did quite epicly bad.

Ahem, Henal was in there so Thunderbird struck the blows against it.

you're right :-)

*feels peace in her world that the natural order is restored*

Good point.  I do find it hard to try to work out how to play the relationship between Thunder Bird and Sun Hawk in the game.  It's not as obvious as that between Thunder Bird and Raven.

Just beat them at everything and even if you don't then remember that you can :)

Yeah, we're just there to stop the Ravens walking all over you, outside that we're straight-laced nay-sayers whose skins are half empty.

The rules versions all haze into one blob for me. I know there is the divine resurrection spell, but can a shaman do the job if he knows the path to the appropriate hell/afterlife?

Two of the Kraken fundraiser stories are now available in PDF from the Chaosium website:

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A full shaman can come back to life. In your case you need the 3 point resurrection spell.

It's Daga Time

(can't quench dis)

 - you're welcome earworm-fans -

Amara, I wasn't sure who you were asking your question of. If the Light Son he ignores you.

Meta wise Sun Dome has a healer, but there's no way they'd heal you. Next nearest is Horn Gate and then New Pavis.

But as luck does have it there might be one at Garhound, because like story innit...

This was an unexpected side quest and the Tower was taken from Sun County for those who haven't played it before.

As for Sun County folk, it's always good to have people to dislike.

Hitting them with drought would be interesting, though at odds with your whole Greening thang. They have have a heroquest where they marry the river, so you guys would come in as opponents.

I don't think we have to go out of our way to drought them, but if there's anything in it for us at some later point then they're fair game. Kinope won't be happy about it, if we have to let him out somewhere...

Domers eh? Assume my inerest in affiliating stands at -infinity

Meta-wise perhaps Hoskar can negotiate me a good price on a description and sketch of "Certain recently discovered antiquities attributed to High Priest Solinthor" from our sages...

So, camp here or return to where you were on the highlands above?

In reply to GM (msg # 247):

The vampire tower is one of the ones I haven't played and technical still haven't :)

We'd better return to Angelika before camping.

I'd not played the tower before as most of the stuff I've played had been out of White Dwarf or made up ourselves.

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This message was last edited by the GM at 13:11, Sat 11 Mar 2017.

I toned it down somewhat, though waiting for nightfall always helps. Ohanzee's body put out the flame necessary for summoning the Salamanders, so his death was helpful. The next one was the largest size possible. Plus I spread the warding disruptions over multiple locations instead of one as i liked the image and was worried about all of you dying.

I toned it down somewhat, though waiting for nightfall always helps. Ohanzee's body put out the flame necessary for summoning the Salamanders, so his death was helpful. The next one was the largest size possible. Plus I spread the warding disruptions over multiple locations instead of one as i liked the image and was worried about all of you dying.

I agree we shouldn't stop before we reach Angelika. Whether we're faster with her even allowing for the caravan and breaking camp, or should send some of us on to Garhound with Ohanzee she can advise.

Melock is talking about camping close, do you lot want to ignore him or let him try and summon Grandmother Spider?

Continue through the night?

If so, ride rolls from everyone.

The route being taken is across the valley sides and then dropping down to Garhound once their border is reached. GArhound being the capital of the Garhound family, a Sararite settler clan of some importance in Pavis County. Angelika hinted on strong ties with them.

15:09, Today: Henal Longgrass rolled 18 using 1d100.  ride.

Failure will just mean delays in the journey.

09:11, Today: Amara Brightsky rolled 93 using 1d100.  Ride. PASS

So, you'll be trying to persuade Sartarites why they should resurrect a nomad. Point in your favour will be Angelika, but I suggest having a think about gifts, reasoning and whatever...

Melock made his ride.

Paying them cold hard cash won't be a problem :)

I need to try to find replacement armour as well :-/

or perhaps we should just kill some Lunars and take it from them.

Information too. You were just in a Sun County settlement for example, plus you know Corflu well.

New Pavis has plenty for sale.

Yeah, but we need money for that and bringing Ohanzee back is my priority.

You have plenty of bish bosh, and stuff to sell. Plus you can make it your priority to source  a good set. Sort looking for Iron or commission a Copper set.

19:26, Today: Temush Blinking-cloud rolled 47 using 1d100.  Ride. PASS

As we are about to ride into Garhound for (I think) the first time, our illustrious GM mandates I post this "Menacing appearance out of the desert" bit of film-flam.

In reply to Temush Blinking-cloud (msg # 269):

Very nice, I like the silhouettes and the Feathered Rivals below them :)

I love it....except I'm on a bison.....

Who would want one of the smelly things?

Not like our regal, superb rhinos....

That can be fixed. I thought you'd had to swap for some reason Ohanzee was on a sable when I started, (this was all assembled before Angelika's Zebra wheeze)

18:33, Today: Kobal rolled 6 using 1d100.  Ride.

Special success for Kobal.  I tend to make my good rolls when it's not necessary  :)



Awesome, Temush  :D

It's certainly Angelika's camp.

Yes, a great poster. Also a trip down memory lane, all those names.

The temptation to have Melock fall to his knees, sobbing at Angelika's feet, pointing at Amara saying "its all her fault", is quite strong. :)

It is all my fault...this time

All day course today. 8hrs of blah blah and an exam.

I know but Melock should at least stand with you and not blame you.



Sounds fun :)

That's a nice poster, Temush, really nice!

And I don't think the words "Melock" and "should" have ever been used in the same sentence. ;)

I'm not clear whether Angelika is mounted or afoot. That's why I've "brought" my mount rather than "ridden" him. If she's afoot (as I suspect), I'm afoot. If she's mounted, I'm mounted.

She just got out of bed, so on foot.

Normally only used in the context of 'Melock should be blamed'

Good of you to drop by :)

This is where you need Salen as he's the fastest rider in the clan.

*Quietly hoping that Amara sneaks off again...*

He's faster than me????

Are you sure?

Angelika can be upset with me all she likes, but I've never lied to her.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:20, Mon 13 Mar 2017.

GM wrote that he's the fastest rider "in the clan".  Maybe they're the important words  :P
This message was last edited by the player at 18:26, Mon 13 Mar 2017.

Salen's special thing is being fast.

Plus his Bison has 2 more move point than everyone else' Bison as it's the fastest Bison in the clan. Amara is a great rider, just not as fast as Salen.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:44, Mon 13 Mar 2017.

Only a Miracle can save us now...

:)

I backed the RQ Classic Kickstarter at a high level.  Got the playtest manuscript and source materials books in the mail yesterday.  Busy at the moment (as usual) so I'm not sure when I'll have time to go through them in any detail, and there's no table of contents, index or even pagination, but from a quick flick through, I see there's a fair bit of material on Brithini character creation.  There are also writeups for the dragonewt cult (eg create dragonewt road spell, summon dream dragon spell(!)), and for the Arkat cult.  Haven't found any pages yet that jump out to me as rules for sorcery, though there are some pages on Zzabur's Sigil.  Also some pages (mainly maps?) on the Broken Tower.  I wonder how much those pages will form the basis of the new Broken Tower introductory scenario for the new RQ.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:16, Wed 15 Mar 2017.

In reply to Kobal (msg # 290):

Kickstarters always come at the wrong time for me. Sounds very readable :)

Sick kids today so not much chance to post IC.

Sorry Ohanzee doubt i will have time to address your spirit stuff. I liked it.

I like the idea ofLeaping bear.

Hope the kids feel better soon.

I was just thinking about what spirits would be good for attacking the sunny boys and I thought Tripanandar would go well with Granny and drought and if we could find a troll insect shaman as well, we could have a plague of Egypt style thing :)

Tripanandar would certainly mess with their herds. But didn't you ban him for a year?

From our lands not Sun county, so he might be happy to have new hunting grounds.

But that's part of our lands isn't it? In that we don't recognise that we have permanently lost it.

Technical yes, but currently it's not, so it's a loop hole in the agreement :)

"the our lands" were the areas around the Bison Khan Grasslands I believe.

I'm just going to drought them and remove from the Lunars a valuable ally of theirs in this area.

Oh and uh....fair warning.

Mass Effect is like one of the few computer RPGs I've ever played to completion (all 3! although tbh, I got kinda bored with 3 until all the DLC was released and then I took a second shot at it) and there's a new one next week....so I might get a lil distracted.

Hope your kids are better.

I might get around to making something else up in the nest tonight, I'll just run with it if I do :)

I'm going with it IC, O Mighty GM, but where did that come from? Was Not Expecting That. Which is a good thing. Surprise is good.

Move it over to the Raven thread for now if you could. Cheers just a one day pukethon.

poor Melock

I don't think she trust the duck.

Not really, now he gets left unsupervised outside, if he'd asked nicely I'm sure Angelika would have said no :)

Maybe he'll find some friendly Lunars to talk to.

In reply to GM (msg # 305):

Oh dear. Another existential crisis for my teenager cometh should agendas clash. Such is life. :)

With me around the Lunars wouldn't want to talk to Hoskar.

They'd just want to pray to me all day as another living reincarnation of the Goddess.

I'm sure you'll cause trouble. The harder it is the easier it seems...

Not intentionally, it always seems to find him though, maybe he'll sneak in and follow the others :)

In reply to GM (msg # 311):

C looks interesting, maybe they'll keep a lonely Raven company at night? :)

So much for partying round Garhound :(

Angelika's not daft.

But You'll still have time for fun...
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:04, Fri 17 Mar 2017.

I know, it's probably for the best he's with her, at least until Ohanzee's back.

On my very limited not-too-smart phone I have just posted in the wrong thread, making all sorts of assumptions. It should have been in "Garhound" and might be over the top (I have made the possibly illegitimate assumption Hosk will have no trouble finding the inn). GM welcome to delete the whole thing. After all, no other PCs are present. :-)

No I love that Hoskar. Makes my life easier and fun for everyone. Excellent.

I will move your last post over.

It's afternoon, say 4pm. You have Ohanzee's body. There's a lightbringer temple.

Sorry, really busy yesterday.  Will hopefully catch up with the new Garhound thread tonight.

So...we're leaving our queen unguarded?
In a town where Lunars and antelope riders are present?

And that was the last anyone saw of Angelika...Evva.

You lot have a few spare hours.

Ohanzee needs to be brought back to life.

You have the address of a place to stay.

Track down Angelika?

Explore?

Pray at your shrines?

I'm not going to rob your gear or mounts.

No the Lunars will do it instead, but they'll call it tax :)

Melock will go looking for Angelika, as she said he was meant to keep an eye on her.

I will go hunt down a healer for Ohanzee.

Folk im happy for you to have stuff on you that suits the story.

I know, but while most things are explainable, I couldn't think of a valid reason for Melock to be carrying one or more Leaping Bear puppets whilst on guard duty, though now I think about it they would double up as furry scarves :)

I'd say you always have them. Makes sense.

Cheers.

Amara and Rhino

Yay!

*hugs Temush*

Chalana Arroy Priest's name please. Male.

Dukakis Pelithor.