OOC - General Chat 03.   Posted by Author.Group: 0
Author
 GM, 1324 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 11 Apr 2017
at 15:11
OOC - General Chat 03
Yes indeed Willa you have attained a Milestone!  Also we now have this new thread for OOC chat.
Author
 GM, 1330 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sat 22 Apr 2017
at 20:21
OOC - General Chat 03
@Drex: Yes you are allowed to save, I explicitly mentioned that on the post so I didn't think you'd miss it.
Author
 GM, 1332 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 24 Apr 2017
at 19:30
OOC - General Chat 03
The machines you face look something like this:


Willa
 player, 791 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Mon 24 Apr 2017
at 22:06
OOC - General Chat 03
For some reason, the image is not showing up for me.

I have also been reading up on the dazed condition.  It says that you cannot take any immediate or opportunity actions.  The description of the Warlock's Pact Boon feature does not appear to take an action to trigger (though initially placing the curse does).  So, I think, if an enemy dies whilst under my curse, it will still triggers the boon even if I am dazed.

Finally, this place is turning into de-buff central.  Enduring weakened and dazed conditions is getting pretty heavy.  Even if its not needed for hp and spells, we may want to consider a long rest after this encounter to get rid of that weakened state the rest of you have.
Author
 GM, 1333 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 25 Apr 2017
at 08:11
OOC - General Chat 03
As far as I am aware effects like a pact boon are free actions on their triggers.
Phelan Drixos
 player, 661 posts
Tue 25 Apr 2017
at 08:29
OOC - General Chat 03
Depends on the pact boon. However Fate of the Void is a Free Action on its trigger. Actually they all seem to be free actions except for Elemental Pact (it's an Immediate Reaction)
Willa
 player, 792 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Tue 25 Apr 2017
at 08:55
OOC - General Chat 03
Could someone link me the source document (or tell me where to find it) listing which pact triggers are free actions?  I have access to both the compendium and the character builder and neither state that Fate of the Void requires anything from the character to trigger.  Only the Darkspiral Aura retributive effect (immediate Interrupt) and the elemental pact (immediate reaction).  Here is the exact phrasing from the compendium for Star Pact:

When an enemy under your Warlock’s Curse is reduced to 0 hit points or fewer, you gain a +1 bonus to any single d20 roll you make before the end of your next turn (attack roll, saving throw, skill check, or ability check). If you don’t use this bonus by the end of your turn, it is lost.
    This bonus is cumulative; if three cursed enemies drop to 0 hit points or fewer before your next turn, you gain a +3 bonus to a d20 roll during your turn.


Here is the description of Eldritch Pact:

You have forged a pact with mysterious entities that grant you your arcane powers. Choose one pact. The pacts presented in the Player’s Handbook are the fey pact, the infernal pact, and the star pact. Other products present additional pacts. The pact you choose determines the following warlock abilities:
    At-Will Spells: Your pact determines one of the at-will spells you know.
    Pact Boon: Each pact includes a pact boon. The pact boon is a granted power you can use to further hex your enemies.
    The pact you take also provides bonuses to certain warlock powers. Individual powers detail the effects (if any) your Eldritch Pact selection has on them.


And here is the entry for free actions:

Free actions take almost no time or effort. A creature can usually take as many free actions as it wants during any turn, including other creatures’ turns. Examples: Speaking a few sentences, dropping a held item, letting go of a grabbed creature.
    There is an exception to this rule: A creature can take a free action to use an attack power only once per turn. Creatures don’t normally have attack powers that can be used as free actions, but some powers and other effects grant the ability to use an attack power (usually a basic attack) as a free action. For instance, a character might have two different abilities that let him or her make a melee basic attack as a free action when their respective triggers occur. If both abilities are triggered on the same turn, the character can make only one of the melee basic attacks during that turn. This limitation does not apply to free actions that a creature is forced to take by an enemy.
    In certain circumstances, the DM might decide to limit the use of free actions further. For instance, if an adventurer has already used free actions during a particular turn to talk, drop things, and use a class feature, the DM might rule that the adventurer can use no more free actions during that turn.

Action Description
Delay Put off a turn until later in the initiative order
Drop held items Drop any items currently held
End a grab Let go of an enemy
Spend an action point Spend an action point to take an extra action (once per encounter, not in a surprise round)
Talk Speak a few sentences


To me, it sounds like the Pact Boon triggers whether I want it to or not.  That could be important in certain situations, like if I am unconscious, stunned, petrified or what have you.

Of course, if we cannot find the source information to say it is a free action, but we believe that it is 'rules as intended' or we just want to make that call, that's fine too :)

EDIT: Just noticed that the Fey Pact "Misty Step" specifically states that it is a Free Action.  The others do not.

This message was last edited by the player at 09:05, Tue 25 Apr 2017.

Phelan Drixos
 player, 662 posts
Tue 25 Apr 2017
at 10:26
OOC - General Chat 03
I'm currently using the compendium app on my phone. Take a look at the warlock class entry as it may be in there, alternatively if you're using the character builder, go into sheet mode (the one that allows you to go through pages, and will include all the powers, including class/race ones). You should find the pact boon there. Either way,t hey should show up as at-wills and explain the trigger and action, as per usual power format.
Willa
 player, 793 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Tue 25 Apr 2017
at 11:28
OOC - General Chat 03
I cannot find it in the compendium or many of the feature's descriptions in the character builder, but you're right.  It does appear at least once as a free action power card there.  Thanks :)

I suspect that may just be because the character builder is incapable of showing a 'power card' without an action type.  I feel that if it was meant to be a free action it would be highlighted in other descriptions of the class feature too as not everyone has access to the character builder  (I spent 2 hours this morning trawling the web for sources where it may have been listed as such and not found any).  However, I have also not found anything stating that it is not a free action either.

So yup - thanks :)
Phelan Drixos
 player, 664 posts
Tue 25 Apr 2017
at 12:58
OOC - General Chat 03
Actually the character builder does this regularly. Remember that not all powers are represented in it (like all the leader token healing powers) outside of going into sheet mode and going to the right page.  I admit I haven't checked the compendium on the browser side, but on the mobile app, the Warlock entry lists the pact boons and their actions (except for Sorcerer King).

Glad to help. :) Just glad I got the DDI stuff working again!
Willa
 player, 794 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Tue 25 Apr 2017
at 16:07
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Phelan Drixos:
Just glad I got the DDI stuff working again!


Yeah its can be a bit of a nightmare sometimes!
Author
 GM, 1334 posts
 The Storyteller.
Thu 27 Apr 2017
at 08:09
OOC - General Chat 03
Congratulations, you guys won initiative.  So you guys start the round.  Go and post my pretties!
Author
 GM, 1335 posts
 The Storyteller.
Fri 28 Apr 2017
at 08:58
OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: I see you haven't placed yourself on the combat map yet, are you having problems?

Also just to note I'll be authoring Ceba's for a few rounds as his player is currently recovering from a trip to the hospital.
Willa
 player, 795 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Fri 28 Apr 2017
at 09:16
OOC - General Chat 03
Sorry - no problems - but I was waiting for Phelan to be added before I put Willa on.
Author
 GM, 1337 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sat 29 Apr 2017
at 18:45
OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: Oh it's fine.  Just mention that next time, ok?  If everyone waits on someone else then nothing happens. As for Willa's check, sometimes we try things and they work, sometimes they don't.  Though that doesn't mean it won't work in the future.  Remember that.
Willa
 player, 797 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Sat 29 Apr 2017
at 18:57
OOC - General Chat 03
I did :) I rolled initiative before Phelan had been put onto the map and I said then that she'd be between him and the enemies.
Author
 GM, 1338 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sun 30 Apr 2017
at 10:27
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Willa:
I did :) I rolled initiative before Phelan had been put onto the map and I said then that she'd be between him and the enemies.


Oh, sorry I totally missed that.
Author
 GM, 1344 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sat 6 May 2017
at 09:42
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I won't able to gen the next round today because I'll be running a Star Trek game tonight over on roll20 so the enemy turn and start of next round will have to wait until tommorrow once Craig has posted.
Drex
 player, 655 posts
 Avenger
Sat 6 May 2017
at 11:49
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
okay
Willa
 player, 799 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Sat 6 May 2017
at 14:49
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
All done.  Sorry for the delay.  Phelan - I think you need to roll Amare's Saving Throw vs the Daze condition.  Also can you use a free action at the same time as another action when you're dazed?  I find the condition's description a little ambiguous.  Thanks, :)
Phelan Drixos
 player, 667 posts
Sat 6 May 2017
at 14:52
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Willa, don't forget the bonuses from Magic Weapon.

Also I've rolled the save since I forgot to. Made it.

And Dazed does not interfere with free actions.
Willa
 player, 800 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Sat 6 May 2017
at 15:05
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Phelan Drixos:
Willa, don't forget the bonuses from Magic Weapon.

Ah nice!  Thanks for the reminder ^^

Phelan Drixos:
And Dazed does not interfere with free actions.

Cool.  Thanks for this too.
Phelan Drixos
 player, 668 posts
Mon 8 May 2017
at 12:28
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Alright. Very strong request you guys hold off posting until I go.
Author
 GM, 1347 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 8 May 2017
at 12:30
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
If you all are wondering why there is so much commotion on the Combat Map, its because these guys have alot of shifting movement powers.  So they can basically rearrange themselves quite effectively when the situation demands it and they have very dangerous tactical behaviour.
Willa
 player, 801 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Tue 9 May 2017
at 09:16
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Author: Thank you for updating Willa's dazed condition.  I had forgotten it.

EDIT: So attacking from invisibility normally provides combat advantage (+2 to attack rolls).  Under the House Rules, I think that means I have 5E Advantage (roll twice on attacks and take the highest?) for Willa's attack.  I have recorded each roll separately in case I am wrong about that, in which case just add +2 to the first roll made against each enemy.

This message was last edited by the player at 10:00, Tue 09 May 2017.

Author
 GM, 1349 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 9 May 2017
at 10:14
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Willa: Yeah that house rule applies until you reach level 4.  I've had some discussion with Max on the subject and we've come to the decision to scrap it once you reach level 4.
Willa
 player, 803 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Thu 11 May 2017
at 14:08
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I think my next turn is going to be extremely complicated.  Unless anyone has any better ideas, this is what I am thinking:

Minor Action: Curse Sword Auto 1
Standard Action: Dire Radiance (2 chances to hit at +9 to hit.  Hopefully I can make a 19 with that)
THEN IF:

1) I hit and Sword Auto 1 survives.  Change my move action to a minor one and use my helm to determine its remaining hp.  Depending on what's left either Action Point to hit it with my daily or let someone else try to finish it off.  If left to someone else Daily sword 2 as below.

2) I hit and Sword Auto 1 dies.  Trigger my pact boon through my rod, spreading my curse to all enemies within 5 squares of Sword Auto 1, then AP and daily sword auto 2.

i) If sword auto 2 is hit and bloodied, change my move action to a minor action and use 'Taking Advantage' racial to end its aura.

ii) If sword auto 2 is hit and not bloodied, or not hit at all, move to maintain my Shadow Walk ability

4) I miss Sword Auto 1.  Action Point and attempt to Daily it.  If it dies, trigger pact boon to spread curse to all enemies within 5 squares, then move to maintain Shadow Walk.

@Author - the presentation of this may get messy, sorry.

This message was last edited by the player at 14:13, Thu 11 May 2017.

Author
 GM, 1352 posts
 The Storyteller.
Thu 11 May 2017
at 16:10
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Messy you say?
Willa
 player, 804 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Thu 11 May 2017
at 21:09
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Yeah, it'll be a very long post with a lot of different possibilities and you'll have to figure out which one applies :/  I'll help however I can.  Hoping someone has a better plan though so it wont be necessary.
Phelan Drixos
 player, 671 posts
Thu 11 May 2017
at 21:13
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Honestly, messy as it is that seems to be the best option. You'll probably have to step-by-step things.
Willa
 player, 805 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Thu 11 May 2017
at 21:50
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Phelan Drixos:
Honestly, messy as it is that seems to be the best option. You'll probably have to step-by-step things.



If our illustrious Author is happy to let me split my turn up into separate posts and also happy to respond to each, sure that would probably be easier.  Also it might be better to use Eldritch blast instead of Dire Radiance.  I have +2 to hit with Dire Radiance, but the Sword Auto's Fort is 2 points higher than its reflex, so the roll to hit is actually the same.  The difference is that Eldritch blast has higher potential damage on the turn it hits, whereas dire radiance has better damage over time, if the target moves closer to Walla.
Phelan Drixos
 player, 672 posts
Fri 12 May 2017
at 09:15
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I'd recommend Eldritch Blast. We have no guarantee the sword auto will move toward Willa on its turn, plus better to try and take it out before it acts rather than during or after.
Author
 GM, 1353 posts
 The Storyteller.
Fri 12 May 2017
at 12:38
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Willa:
If our illustrious Author is happy to let me split my turn up into separate posts and also happy to respond to each, sure that would probably be easier.  Also it might be better to use Eldritch blast instead of Dire Radiance.  I have +2 to hit with Dire Radiance, but the Sword Auto's Fort is 2 points higher than its reflex, so the roll to hit is actually the same.  The difference is that Eldritch blast has higher potential damage on the turn it hits, whereas dire radiance has better damage over time, if the target moves closer to Walla.


If you have a good reason then sure.  o3o
Willa
 player, 807 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Fri 12 May 2017
at 14:12
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Well thanks to a series of awful rolls that was very anticlimactic and I am now out of anything useful I can do.
Author
 GM, 1354 posts
 The Storyteller.
Fri 12 May 2017
at 15:54
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: I shall now channel my inner French GM "Such is life." blows smoke in your face.

It happens to us all.

Also don't mind my post, I figured I'd play up the humour a bit.

This message was last edited by the GM at 16:09, Fri 12 May 2017.

Willa
 player, 809 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Sat 13 May 2017
at 16:06
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Okay, @Dice Roller, all is forgiven!
Willa
 player, 811 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Mon 15 May 2017
at 01:01
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Not that it matters, but I'd like to revel in victory a little more and point out that Willa actually did 45 damage to the Sword Auto as I forgot the +3 from Magic Weapon!  Although you could argue that extra 3 belongs to Phelan, I guess :P
Phelan Drixos
 player, 675 posts
Mon 15 May 2017
at 06:15
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Yep! Meant to point that out to you after I posted. Forgot.  :p
Author
 GM, 1359 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 15 May 2017
at 09:11
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: You are allowed to revel.  :3  YOLO and all that.  XD  >=3  Afterall the wheel turns, doesn't it?
Author
 GM, 1365 posts
 The Storyteller.
Fri 19 May 2017
at 12:32
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
After the days that have gone by in this encounter and folks not posting the grace I've been giving out to you guys to take some time to post is now official spent, its dried up, its caput. From now on, I will strictly be enforcing the houserules in combat around Inaction.  From now on you will have approximately 24 hours to post your action in a round or else the Inaction rules will come into effect, if you do not have tactics written down on your character sheet in a clear and concise manner your character will take a Total Defence action on his turn and only respond with Attacks of Opportunity.  Are we clear?
Willa
 player, 814 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Fri 19 May 2017
at 14:00
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Yes, sorry. I'll do better. :(

I've done some stats on the combat so far, if anyone cares:

Initiative: 24/4/17 to 25/4/17
Declaration that we got to go 1st: 27/4/17
1st round: 28/4/17 to 01/05/17
Enemy round: 3/5/17
2nd round: 3/5/17 to 6/5/17
Enemy Round: 8/15/17
3rd round: 8/5/147 to 10/5/17 (Phelan took Drex's turn on 10th)
Enemy Round: 11/5/17
4th Round: 12/5/17 to 13/5/17
Enemy Round: 13/5/17
5th Round: 13/5/17 to 15/5/17
Enemy Round: 16/5/17
6th Round: 16/5/17 to 18/5/17

6 Player Rounds and 5 Enemy Rounds in 22 days (27/4 to 19/5, includes 27th in the count)

Author took 2+2+1+0+1 = 7 days for 5 enemy turns = An average of 1.4 days per round

Adjusting the count for player days down by 3.  2 for the time author took 2 days and 1 for the day the author posted on 0 days, for fairness as people may not have expected our author to respond so quickly.

Leaving Players with 19 days for 6 rounds.  Or an average of 3.17 days per round.


EDIT:
Thinking about it this might be the wrong way to do things.  If we had posted within 24 hours each time it would have taken 11 days (5 for author, 6 for us).  SO I guess the player count should be 22-8 (if being generous with the author's 0 day post), meaning 6 rounds in 14 days, or an average of 2.33.  Still too long, of course.

This message was last edited by the player at 14:05, Fri 19 May 2017.

Author
 GM, 1366 posts
 The Storyteller.
Fri 19 May 2017
at 17:25
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Craig, are you a mathematician? Or do you just love math?  I'm really curious now.

This message was last edited by the GM at 17:26, Fri 19 May 2017.

Willa
 player, 816 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Fri 19 May 2017
at 18:50
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Well I could have gone on to study math at university but I did the dumb thing and chose art instead ^^
Phelan Drixos
 player, 678 posts
Sat 20 May 2017
at 13:29
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I'm going to add the Fame and Fate Fortune tokens to our communal wealth section. If someone else already has, let me know.

This should bring the total to:
  • Wealth: 3
  • Fame: 11
  • Fortune: 17.5

This message was last edited by the player at 13:30, Sat 20 May 2017.

Willa
 player, 818 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/38 Surges:9/9 AC:15
Sat 20 May 2017
at 15:32
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I hadn't done anything with the wealth :)

Also, I have levelled Willa up to 4, taking +1 Charisma, +1 Intelligence and the Hidden Sniper Feat.

Oh and we're now dropping advantage/disadvantage, correct?  I think that's a good idea.  Willa would be super good at landing her spells if it stayed.

This message was last edited by the player at 15:38, Sat 20 May 2017.

Iron Jubei
 player, 660 posts
 Paladin 22AC 15 otherDefs
 37 HP 14 Surges
Sat 20 May 2017
at 16:08
Re: OOC - General Chat 03


Leveled Jubei up, retrained History for Endurance, took Swift Recovery feat and + 1 to Charisma and Strength

And yeah, I think we wanted to drop it now and return back to normal combat advantage.
Author
 GM, 1368 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sat 20 May 2017
at 16:42
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Jip, henceforth advantage goes poof.  Also don't forget to update the character thread.
Cebakaala
 player, 53 posts
Sun 21 May 2017
at 09:50
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Leveled up Ceba. Gained 5 HP, and increased Dex and Wis by +1 each.
New feat: Agile Hunter - When you score a critical hit with a melee
attack against the target of your Hunter’s Quarry, you
can shift as a free action, and the enemy takes a –2
penalty on attack rolls against you until the end of
your next turn.
Author
 GM, 1369 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sun 21 May 2017
at 16:24
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Please finish any leveling up by tonight.  Things need to get rolling tommorrow.
Drex
 player, 660 posts
 Avenger
Mon 22 May 2017
at 07:40
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I'm finished too.

+ 1 to Dexterity and wisdom and took the Power of Skill (Domain) feat. I'm only going to spend one healing surge. Just in case there is two of three more fights, that we can't avoid.

And I'm going to ask it here too: Am I correct to think, if I Pay the appropriate amount of tokens, Amare could transfigurate Drex's great axe into an execution axe? Like fortune, that he has the time and the necessary components to do it.
Phelan Drixos
 player, 681 posts
Wed 24 May 2017
at 17:02
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Historical Moment: Phelan apologising. To Drex. With complete sincerity.
Author
 GM, 1372 posts
 The Storyteller.
Wed 24 May 2017
at 19:07
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Drex:
I'm finished too.

+ 1 to Dexterity and wisdom and took the Power of Skill (Domain) feat. I'm only going to spend one healing surge. Just in case there is two of three more fights, that we can't avoid.

And I'm going to ask it here too: Am I correct to think, if I Pay the appropriate amount of tokens, Amare could transfigurate Drex's great axe into an execution axe? Like fortune, that he has the time and the necessary components to do it.


@Drex: Ask Phelan instead, Amare's grasp of magic is tenuous at best.  He's intelligent enough to figure it out but has absolutely no experience with it.  This was demonstrated by the Candle Lighting Spell incident back in Galdion.
Author
 GM, 1375 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sun 28 May 2017
at 10:03
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Today's post is an example of what happens when one thing leads to another in rapid succession and I work with another player to have it all run somewhat seamlessly from the perspective of others.
Author
 GM, 1376 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 30 May 2017
at 08:26
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Its Tuesday already, where's your posts?
Willa
 player, 824 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:42/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Wed 31 May 2017
at 21:45
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Author I'd like to know what happens with Ceba before posting again, if that's okay :)
Author
 GM, 1378 posts
 The Storyteller.
Thu 1 Jun 2017
at 12:31
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: Sure!

Amare's plan involves spending a Fortune Token, is that alright with everyone?
Willa
 player, 825 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:42/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Thu 1 Jun 2017
at 16:08
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Author:
Amare's plan involves spending a Fortune Token, is that alright with everyone?


Okay.  Seems we have a few :)
Author
 GM, 1380 posts
 The Storyteller.
Thu 1 Jun 2017
at 18:24
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Apparently I wrote body horror without realizing it, whoops.
Willa
 player, 828 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:42/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Sun 4 Jun 2017
at 09:29
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Author - do we have any idea of relevant distances between buildings and the village.  It sounds like the village is comparatively far away, but I might just be misinterpreting the situation.  Thanks :)
Author
 GM, 1383 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 5 Jun 2017
at 17:42
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Willa:
@Author - do we have any idea of relevant distances between buildings and the village.  It sounds like the village is comparatively far away, but I might just be misinterpreting the situation.  Thanks :)


Fair point.  Hmmmm...I'll make something on the navigational map over in the spreadsheets book.
Author
 GM, 1388 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sun 11 Jun 2017
at 09:53
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I indulged in a little quick doodling things morning related to Willa's little vision of Amare in the Dragon Maw cave.


Willa
 player, 832 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:42/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Sun 11 Jun 2017
at 10:15
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Trippy Oo

Also @everyone I think we should run for the trees.  I don't think the spire would provide useful cover to hide behind once the bird-things fly around it!
Author
 GM, 1389 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sun 11 Jun 2017
at 10:52
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: Commonsense Fairy, Why not get inside the spire?  Sure their aren't any visible doors, maybe they're hidden ones.
Willa
 player, 833 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:42/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Sun 11 Jun 2017
at 11:29
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Author:
@Willa: Commonsense Fairy, Why not get inside the spire?  Sure their aren't any visible doors, maybe they're hidden ones.


But if we fail to find them, we're screwed.  Surely the trees are the, if not safest, at least surest bet?
Drex
 player, 668 posts
 Avenger
Sun 11 Jun 2017
at 12:23
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Author:
@Willa: Commonsense Fairy, Why not get inside the spire?  Sure their aren't any visible doors, maybe they're hidden ones.

But now I'm weary of going in. Especially if The Author wants us to go in... -_-
Drex
 player, 669 posts
 Avenger
Sun 11 Jun 2017
at 12:36
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Willa:
Trippy Oo

Also @everyone I think we should run for the trees.  I don't think the spire would provide useful cover to hide behind once the bird-things fly around it!

I agree once in the cover of the forest we can explore the town and the spire. We need to find more information about everything. And what is our goals here? Destroy big bad, find out more about Jubei's vision. Explore Weyr and the reason there is still activity and then report this to the guild. Is that all?
Willa
 player, 834 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:42/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Sun 11 Jun 2017
at 13:01
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Drex:
Willa:
Trippy Oo

Also @everyone I think we should run for the trees.  I don't think the spire would provide useful cover to hide behind once the bird-things fly around it!

I agree once in the cover of the forest we can explore the town and the spire. We need to find more information about everything. And what is our goals here? Destroy big bad, find out more about Jubei's vision. Explore Weyr and the reason there is still activity and then report this to the guild. Is that all?


Get the Narayah's a new home, I suppose.
Drex
 player, 670 posts
 Avenger
Sun 11 Jun 2017
at 13:16
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Oh no that's not happening, not with out the guild and the Queen giving the go ahead with that... And I don't think it is going to be that easy.
Willa
 player, 835 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:42/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Sun 11 Jun 2017
at 14:04
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Well since Willa will be the owner of this Weyr if she lives and we succeed, I think that's up to her. :D
Drex
 player, 672 posts
 Avenger
Sun 11 Jun 2017
at 14:21
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
True, but you know how thous bureaucrats work. Let's hope there is undesirable proof that Willa is the owner of the Weyr and the kingdom of Area accepts this. And Willa's right to leas it out or give it away...
Iron Jubei
 player, 670 posts
 Paladin 22AC 15 otherDefs
 37 HP 14 Surges
Sun 11 Jun 2017
at 15:52
Re: OOC - General Chat 03



Well, the whole ownership thing aside, I vote we make for a quick trip to the forest then now if it really just a few minutes away.
Phelan Drixos
 player, 688 posts
Sun 11 Jun 2017
at 17:15
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I'm on board with hiding in the forest.

And the whole ownership thing is going to be... Complicated.
Willa
 player, 838 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:42/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Thu 15 Jun 2017
at 23:01
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Willa doesn't really have any skills that apply here, except for arcana.  I'm happy to try that or assist Phelan with one.  Otherwise, if there is anything else that someone can think of and wants help with she can try to aid in that.

Dungeoneering might be good - looking for secret doors etc - if anyone is any good at that?

This message was last edited by the player at 23:03, Thu 15 June 2017.

Drex
 player, 674 posts
 Avenger
Fri 16 Jun 2017
at 11:55
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Drex is okay with Dungeoneering, but he better with perception.
Author
 GM, 1400 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 27 Jun 2017
at 08:36
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I made a small edit to clarify that both doors lead outside.
Author
 GM, 1402 posts
 The Storyteller.
Wed 28 Jun 2017
at 14:46
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Slightly random, fun facts for Craig. Umbreans are chemically hydrophobic.  Also they are almost twice as dense as regular critters and are basically made of living plastic (see hydrocarbon based life).

This message was last edited by the GM at 14:47, Wed 28 June 2017.

Willa
 player, 845 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:42/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Thu 29 Jun 2017
at 11:35
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I guess we have some sort of watch set up during the long rest.  If we need an order, Willa will take last watch so those of you suffering conditions can all clear them asap.
Cebakaala
 player, 67 posts
Thu 29 Jun 2017
at 16:09
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
A noble and well-appreciated sacrifice on her part.
Author
 GM, 1403 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sun 2 Jul 2017
at 19:12
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
To be sure about the update for tommorrow morning, you will be advancing roughly a day ahead.  Any healing checks made for treating diseases should be made now.  And crafting, ritual casting and the like should be rolled for and posted before noon tommorrow.  Understood?
Willa
 player, 846 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:42/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Sun 2 Jul 2017
at 20:25
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Understood and I, uh, don't think there is anything for Willa to do...
Phelan Drixos
 player, 693 posts
Thu 6 Jul 2017
at 16:46
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Willa:
"Zebrakoala"


*choking laughter*
Author
 GM, 1407 posts
 The Storyteller.
Thu 6 Jul 2017
at 17:10
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Phelan Drixos:
Willa:
"Zebrakoala"


*choking laughter*


I'll join you there on the floor.  [ROFLs.]

This message was last edited by the GM at 17:10, Thu 06 July 2017.

Cebakaala
 player, 69 posts
Thu 6 Jul 2017
at 21:48
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
... one of the most beautiful things I've ever read. Well done.
Iron Jubei
 player, 693 posts
 Paladin 22AC 15 otherDefs
 37 HP 14 Surges
Mon 24 Jul 2017
at 16:14
Re: OOC - General Chat 03


So starting tomorrow I will be on a bbq party thing which will last till the end of the week.
I have no idea how my phone's reception is going to end up and it could well be that I won't be able to make any post for the week then.
 But if I still can get servicable enough reception, I will of course try to keep posting.
Author
 GM, 1421 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 24 Jul 2017
at 17:56
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Iron Jubei:
So starting tomorrow I will be on a bbq party thing which will last till the end of the week.
I have no idea how my phone's reception is going to end up and it could well be that I won't be able to make any post for the week then.
 But if I still can get servicable enough reception, I will of course try to keep posting.


Oh right you mentioned this with the Star Trek game.  Hmmm, well lets see what happens.
Author
 GM, 1430 posts
 The Storyteller.
Fri 4 Aug 2017
at 16:16
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
It occurred to me this would be amusing to note.

TMI Trivia: Amare Edition.

While everyone in the party has relieved themselves in various places. Drex less so than others I should note. Amare hasn't done so whatsoever.  It's a little mystery as he eats and drinks as much as anyone else but has never asked to excuse himself due to the call of nature.
Drex
 player, 685 posts
 Avenger
Mon 7 Aug 2017
at 06:33
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Author:
It's a little mystery as he eats and drinks as much as anyone else but has never asked to excuse himself due to the call of nature.


Yes because his stomach is a singularity.

@All: Just to refresh my memory, which tower or place are we going to first?
Author
 GM, 1436 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sun 13 Aug 2017
at 12:12
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
The map in the google doc has been updated (navigation tab) for those who want some idea of the layout but get cross eyed at text.
Cebakaala
 player, 74 posts
Tue 29 Aug 2017
at 04:36
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Ceba is back after a long absence. He offers my apologies for our lack of presence.
Willa
 player, 873 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Wed 30 Aug 2017
at 21:40
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Apologies - slightly confused here.  Is the grate that Ceba spotted a way into the stone building, or a way into some structure that seemed to house the swarming flying whatevers?
Author
 GM, 1443 posts
 The Storyteller.
Thu 31 Aug 2017
at 19:55
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: Whoops I'll clarify that both here and in the thread, it's the building you are at atm.
Author
 GM, 1444 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sat 2 Sep 2017
at 21:25
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Update in the morning.  Star Trek ate my time today.
Author
 GM, 1450 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 12 Sep 2017
at 16:08
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I tried something new with the combat map so bear with me. I tried composing the field of images instead of background colours.  This may make it impossible to make moves on the map from mobile devices.  Though the image size should be more than manageable for any connection (2400x2400)

Places yourselves in the green area as indicated on the map, the map isn't that blank its just the limit of what you can see at the time of drawing, the enemy is directly to your south.  I'll place the swarm tokens asap.

This message was last edited by the GM at 16:10, Tue 12 Sept 2017.

Willa
 player, 876 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Tue 12 Sep 2017
at 22:15
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Its a cool map! :D
Author
 GM, 1452 posts
 The Storyteller.
Thu 14 Sep 2017
at 07:49
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: Thankyou Craig!  Though we have a conflict here.  Note in Phelan's attack for round 1 (which hit btw) he moved the swarm he was attacking to the same location as Willa shifted to, now you can do that but are you aware that you'll be a) standing inside the swarm and b) that location counts as difficult terrain?

See Swarm Keyword text:
https://i.gyazo.com/c83deaa9820ca271d8ea473ab37970db.png
Author
 GM, 1453 posts
 The Storyteller.
Thu 14 Sep 2017
at 07:52
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Also, incase of confusion, unless stated otherwise during movement the silver swarms are hovering at the usual altitude off the ground.  Their attacks have all been melee thus far.
Willa
 player, 879 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Thu 14 Sep 2017
at 08:38
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Author:
Though we have a conflict here.  Note in Phelan's attack for round 1 (which hit btw) he moved the swarm he was attacking to the same location as Willa shifted to


But its a push, not a slide, they should be moved away from him shouldn't they?  How did they end up in that square?

EDIT: Oh, I see!  The token must have gotten moved at some point, it was supposed to be in AS2!  I'll amend my post.  Actually, thinking about it that was probably my fault.  Willa's token was 'beneath' the 2 swarms that were around her and I had to move them to get to her.  Thought I had put them back in the right place.  Guess not :/  Sorry.  I'll be more observant in the future.

This message was last edited by the player at 08:43, Thu 14 Sept 2017.

Author
 GM, 1454 posts
 The Storyteller.
Thu 14 Sep 2017
at 10:47
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: Given the issues you've expressed Craig I think our best option is to use roll20 for the combat map.  So I'll quickly set that up and add the link here. Of course we won't use it all the time, just sometimes.
Author
 GM, 1455 posts
 The Storyteller.
Thu 14 Sep 2017
at 11:16
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
https://app.roll20.net/join/2569414/Rl9Njg Link address, it'll be valid for only a short while so let me know if you get stuck.  The map itself will be upload and all tokens will be uploaded shortly as well.
Author
 GM, 1456 posts
 The Storyteller.
Thu 14 Sep 2017
at 12:27
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
The map is up to date now, just edit to make your moves, I gave each token of yours a character sheet too just for heck.  There is no standard character sheet though.  So bear that in mind.  If you want to add HP/HS and the like go ahead/discuss here.

We'll mostly only use roll20 for combat areas that are messy/complicated.

This message was last edited by the GM at 12:28, Thu 14 Sept 2017.

Author
 GM, 1457 posts
 The Storyteller.
Fri 15 Sep 2017
at 06:57
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Drex: Reminder, he's under the influence of the Final Stage effects of both Black Boils and Skinrot which are as follows:

Skinrot:  While bloodied the target takes a -4 penalty to attack rolls and cannot spend healing surges.

Black Boils:  Whenever the target takes damage it takes an additional 1d6 acid damage.
Drex
 player, 692 posts
 Avenger
Fri 15 Sep 2017
at 09:12
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
In reply to Author (msg # 101):

I thought we did a check for that and you said it didn't get worse...
Author
 GM, 1459 posts
 The Storyteller.
Fri 15 Sep 2017
at 11:27
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Drex: Accurate, but you didn't get better either.
Willa
 player, 880 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Fri 15 Sep 2017
at 13:00
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Warlocks don't have much aoe (works better vs swarms).  I've taken some with Willa, but its not very powerful and rather indiscriminate.  However, Jubei, if you shift 2 squares to the north I can attempt to hit 3 of the swarms with 'waktipus'?

It does only do cold damage.  Not sure how effective that is against these things.
Phelan Drixos
 player, 710 posts
Fri 15 Sep 2017
at 13:06
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I'll likely be sending more of them over to Jubei so that could cause some issues with Waktipus planning. I'll try to leave a good position for it though.
Iron Jubei
 player, 712 posts
 Paladin 22AC 15 otherDefs
 37 HP 14 Surges
Sun 17 Sep 2017
at 11:52
Re: OOC - General Chat 03

7 Temp HP for everyone \o/

Don't forget to put that into your tracker. :D

So... just nuke me. I'll tank it. Probably.

This message was last edited by the player at 11:53, Sun 17 Sept 2017.

Willa
 player, 882 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Sun 17 Sep 2017
at 14:51
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Iron Jubei:
So... just nuke me. I'll tank it. Probably.


I think you're safe!
Author
 GM, 1462 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 18 Sep 2017
at 07:54
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Fixed the use of the term advantage and disadvantage to the Character Book, so bonus should be reverted to their original intent.  I.e. Combat advantage and +2/-2.
Author
 GM, 1466 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 19 Sep 2017
at 17:32
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I'll be using the "Scheduled next session" thingy on roll20 to schedule the daily post update for combat.  As I said before, during the week I'll be a lot harder on implementing that rule, on the weekend I'll be a bit more lenient and allow some grace.
Willa
 player, 883 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Wed 20 Sep 2017
at 01:33
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Sorry for missing the last round. >.<
Author
 GM, 1469 posts
 The Storyteller.
Wed 20 Sep 2017
at 08:27
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: At least you had a list of tactics for such a scenario.  Which is more than I can say for Drex and Ceba.  I suggest you two make the time to write at least a short paragraph like Jubei did.
Author
 GM, 1471 posts
 The Storyteller.
Wed 20 Sep 2017
at 09:37
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I won't be posting end of round/start of next round today as I'll be at an IRL game night tonight so I won't have the time to make a post.  Therefore my update will shift to tommorrow morning at 10am (+2 GMT) as noted on roll20 I hope to see a post from everyone by then.
Author
 GM, 1474 posts
 The Storyteller.
Wed 20 Sep 2017
at 19:21
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
So game night was canceled, therefore I posted as per usual with a minor delay.
Author
 GM, 1476 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sat 23 Sep 2017
at 15:01
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Remember to Announce that you take a short rest?
Author
 GM, 1481 posts
 The Storyteller.
Thu 5 Oct 2017
at 17:32
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Craig that was beautiful.  XD
Author
 GM, 1488 posts
 The Storyteller.
Wed 18 Oct 2017
at 13:12
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
At some point I suspect someone asked Amare why the whites of his eyes are black instead of white.  I would believe the question would have come from a Willa-shaped source as well.  His answer: "A physical sign of my peculiar nature.  It was also a compromise between complete blackness-" Amare waves a hand past his eyes and reveals them then to be completely black, no iris or pupils visible whatsoever "-which I believe would unnecessarily distress people and a more normal appearance for humans." he waves the same hand back over his eyes and the usual shimmering iris and dark pupil return.
Author
 GM, 1499 posts
 The Storyteller.
Fri 17 Nov 2017
at 11:47
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
My internet is fixed!  So I'm back again.
Author
 GM, 1500 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 21 Nov 2017
at 11:36
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Remember you should post your proximity to active exploration, otherwise Jubei and Cebakaala may stumble into traps/monsters and the rest of you will have a long way to go before you can provide support.
Willa
 player, 899 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Tue 5 Dec 2017
at 13:00
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I'm rp-ing it that Willa is still a bit slow from overheating, so she will not do anything special before combat begins.  However, the rest of you might want to consider readying some actions?
Phelan Drixos
 player, 722 posts
Tue 5 Dec 2017
at 13:39
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Ah, I knew I had forgotten something. Thank you Willa!
Phelan Drixos
 player, 724 posts
Sat 9 Dec 2017
at 18:02
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Okay. Two options. Either we do a phalanx advance toward them, using Jubei as a meat shield, or we hold position and wait for them to come to us. The second route may be more solid, but only Phelan and Ceba can reach currently. For the rest of you, I would recommend readying attacks for when they reach your range.
Willa
 player, 901 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Sat 9 Dec 2017
at 18:19
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Is it possible that they have long range attacks? (long enough to hit us when we cant hit them, I mean)
Phelan Drixos
 player, 725 posts
Sat 9 Dec 2017
at 21:04
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
*makes knowledge rolls*

... Uh oh. Well the saving grace is that they can't fight at long range. C has a long range attack technically, but it's conditional and will need it to get closer anyway.

Will post in thread regarding info.
Phelan Drixos
 player, 727 posts
Sun 10 Dec 2017
at 13:44
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: Yeah. Readying is a Standard action, so you can still take a minor to make someone's life (or unlife, or... whatever) be unfortunate. Also yes, C is the mind-controlly one that Phelan was marking as priority.
Willa
 player, 903 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Sun 10 Dec 2017
at 14:28
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Cool.  Thank you, thank you!
Phelan Drixos
 player, 729 posts
Mon 11 Dec 2017
at 21:46
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: C is (probably) dead so you should be free to explode stuff at your leisure.
Willa
 player, 905 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Mon 11 Dec 2017
at 21:51
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Yeah, its been struck out on the combat tracker. :)
Author
 GM, 1510 posts
 The Storyteller.
Wed 13 Dec 2017
at 19:37
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Sorry for the delay I was sick yesterday with food poisoning.  Still recovering from it.  So bare with still ill DM.
Willa
 player, 906 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Wed 13 Dec 2017
at 20:09
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
NP.  Get well soon :)
Author
 GM, 1516 posts
 The Storyteller.
Fri 15 Dec 2017
at 21:17
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
So I took a look at the Group Book and your XP values seem off...I would strongly encourage you to appoint a bookkeeper for player info like Treasure and Experience Points.  Because no one has elected themselves that position and it's not a good idea to make that my job as well. Considering no one has volunteered previously out of your own little cabal I would urge you to discuss and chose a Bookkeeper now.  This isn't a soul binding "YOU SHALL DO THIS FOR ALL ETERNITY" type of deal, so don't stress it too hard.  Rotate out if you feel you need to or something, just get your important notes in order.

Also, DMs naughty list this year:
ZebraKoala: Your character sheet lacks a tactics section, please make one.  Also on Equipment, it says WEAPON not weapons, list only the current weapon in use.  You have equipment on your character sheet to store that information.  Same applies to everyone else your weapon listed there is the DEFAULT your use unless stated in the thread otherwise that is the one I expect you to wield and the source of the statistics I will use if I have to run your character during a turn.
Drex: The same goes for you.
Willa: Speed and Initiative entries remain unfilled on your character sheet.
Everyone: General housekeeping of the book and respective information.
Willa
 player, 909 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Fri 15 Dec 2017
at 23:12
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Author:
Willa: Speed and Initiative entries remain unfilled on your character sheet.


Wait did I miss an update to the character sheet at some point?  The Template is quite different to mine.  If so, sorry >.<
Author
 GM, 1517 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sat 16 Dec 2017
at 06:57
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: Oh I ain't roasting ya, I've updated the character sheet several times over the last few years.  I believe I did mention the updates here most of the time, though my memory may be mistaken.  Besides that I have made notes on your character sheet (see the little orange triangles or just click on the speech balloon in each tab to reveal them all) pertaining to questions about stuff on it.

Max informs me that "housekeeping" is  too unspecific, so let me iron that out more.  I mean take a look at the character sheet template and try to copy its style and layout.  That sheet has been made to be very easy to read and guide the eye around.
Cebakaala
 New Player, 113 posts
Sat 16 Dec 2017
at 09:06
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Zebra is currently experiencing an admin sad.

But I'll do some fiddling to fix the sheet up. Is the default weapon the only issue? Also... tactics? I have literally one tactic: hide behind Jubei and shoot the things. Template copying shall be done to reflect this.

Furthermore... This bookkeeping position. What does it entail? Because I'll happily do this job provided I have a quick rundown of what the service entails.
Willa
 player, 911 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Sat 16 Dec 2017
at 16:10
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Author:
@Willa: Oh I ain't roasting ya, I've updated the character sheet several times over the last few years.  I believe I did mention the updates here most of the time, though my memory may be mistaken.  Besides that I have made notes on your character sheet (see the little orange triangles or just click on the speech balloon in each tab to reveal them all) pertaining to questions about stuff on it.

Max informs me that "housekeeping" is  too unspecific, so let me iron that out more.  I mean take a look at the character sheet template and try to copy its style and layout.  That sheet has been made to be very easy to read and guide the eye around.


You probably did, but I must have missed the part/s about adding initiative and speed to the character sheet.
Author
 GM, 1518 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sat 16 Dec 2017
at 18:27
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Cebakaala: Take an example from Willa, a point by point, kinda AI scriptish writeup that should cover you in most tactical situations.

As for bookkeeping this would mean two things (at least in my mind).  The first, keeping the Experience Tracker in the Journal Section up to date.  Secondly making sure that the party wealth is kept up to date in the Equipment and Wealth section.
Cebakaala
 New Player, 115 posts
Sat 16 Dec 2017
at 22:36
Re: OOC - General Chat 03

quote:
As for bookkeeping this would mean two things (at least in my mind).  The first, keeping the Experience Tracker in the Journal Section up to date.  Secondly making sure that the party wealth is kept up to date in the Equipment and Wealth section

Well I'll see to that then. Has anyone updated our wealth and exp tallies for the last combat? I'd like to know before I do any fiddling.
Phelan Drixos
 player, 733 posts
Sat 16 Dec 2017
at 23:17
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Formal request to hold your posts until I take my turn. I'm going to buy us some time but I NEED to go first to do so.
Author
 GM, 1520 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sat 16 Dec 2017
at 23:22
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Aside, Battlefield effects for monsters with auras are noted in the combat tracker beneath the enemies section.  Also the little white O's on the map are just my markers for where the enemies started.

This message was last edited by the GM at 23:27, Sat 16 Dec 2017.

Willa
 player, 912 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Sun 17 Dec 2017
at 21:28
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Ceba

Amare used an ability that allowed all allies in a burst 1 around his manifestation to spend a healing surge, regaining healing surge hp+6.

I don't see this listed in your post, so I just want to check that you didn't miss it.
Cebakaala
 New Player, 117 posts
Mon 18 Dec 2017
at 06:47
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa

I totally missed that. Thanks! I'll make a quick edit to fix that, if the GM allows it.
Drex
 player, 704 posts
 Avenger
Mon 18 Dec 2017
at 07:28
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Sorry had to redo my post, I made a mistake. Drex was immobilized.
Author
 GM, 1521 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 18 Dec 2017
at 08:09
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Cebakaala: Go ahead, I'll be updating later today, I was a bit too tired and drunk last night to update so you scored a chance to act differently.  A post is generally only considered final when the round updates.
Phelan Drixos
 player, 735 posts
Mon 18 Dec 2017
at 10:57
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: Remember this is a new encounter, so need a new initiative roll. Can't see if you made one.

This message was lightly edited by the player at 11:39, Mon 18 Dec 2017.

Willa
 player, 914 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Mon 18 Dec 2017
at 11:31
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Whoops.  Will update.  Thank you!
Author
 GM, 1524 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 18 Dec 2017
at 18:30
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: Hey Craig, the version of Willa's Dire Radiance you are using is out of date, it was update a while back, check the Rules Update for the newer version or Wiki http://dnd4.wikia.com/wiki/Dire_radiance see also http://dnd4.wikia.com/wiki/Warlock_update

This message was last edited by the GM at 18:31, Mon 18 Dec 2017.

Author
 GM, 1525 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 18 Dec 2017
at 19:44
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Update to the Campaign Book.  Added Token Box at the bottom of the Combat Map.
Willa
 player, 915 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Mon 18 Dec 2017
at 20:14
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Author,
sorry but it looks the same to me - what am I missing?
Phelan Drixos
 player, 737 posts
Mon 18 Dec 2017
at 20:26
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: It's waaaaaay at the bottom of the map tab. Past the battlefield effects and legend.
Willa
 player, 916 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Mon 18 Dec 2017
at 21:01
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
In reply to Phelan Drixos (msg # 148):

Thank you, but I mean the dire radiance change, sorry again >.>
Phelan Drixos
 player, 738 posts
Mon 18 Dec 2017
at 21:34
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Oh, basically it's Charisma or Con to attack. I noticed today for some reason your entry had also reverted back to Reflex, but it says Fort again now.
Willa
 player, 917 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Mon 18 Dec 2017
at 22:03
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Yeah, I spotted the reflex thing when I was trying to see what had changed.

I'm aware that either Con or Charisma can be used for the attack.  That's why Willa's attacks are always made using her Charisma (the higher stat).  The original version of the power only allowed for attacks to be made with Con.

I excluded mentioning the option to use Con on her character sheet, to save space.  Sorry for the confusion :)
Phelan Drixos
 player, 739 posts
Tue 19 Dec 2017
at 07:52
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Tried to convey in character but want to make sure I was being clear.

The defenders (WD) have strong Will and we have yet to hit their Fort defence. They’re Soldiers and likely have Reflex as a lower defence (as evidenced by their relatively equal AC). That was what Phelan was trying to convey before he used his daily.
Willa
 player, 919 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Tue 19 Dec 2017
at 12:47
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Yeah I got that.  Was just trying to determine how high their Fort actually is.  Probably a silly idea.
Phelan Drixos
 player, 740 posts
Tue 19 Dec 2017
at 13:27
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Oh it's valid, and I'll be very happy if an 18 hits. Problem is descriptions and the like (and a barely-successful knowledge check. I rolled a 3. D: ) seem to suggest a higher Fort. Still, if it hits, that'll be very good info since we know it's higher than 17.

If Amare hits at least we'll know their Reflex then. If it's somehow higher I will stop suggesting that course of action. :P
Phelan Drixos
 player, 742 posts
Thu 21 Dec 2017
at 19:02
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I'll give you that one. That was a nice chunk of damage to WDI there, jeez.
Willa
 player, 920 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 09:14
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Author - what happened to WDII?

It is still on the combat tracker and the last thing I see posted about it is that it is in square M31.  However that space is currently occupied by WTI, which as far as I can tell should be in square M34.

Thanks :)

@Ceba - how do you feel about getting out of your current position?  Willa has enough movement to be able to get to (M or N)32, triggering an attack from whatever is in square M31, using its reaction.  That should allow you to move away behind Iron Jubei.  IT will also mean that WIlla can use her last AoE without risk of hurting you (she can move forward then ready the action to trigger once you are out of range.  I,uh, think :P).  Though the attack (again) targets fort, which is not great.  But at least you'll be out of danger for the most part.

This message was last edited by the player at 09:20, Fri 22 Dec 2017.

Phelan Drixos
 player, 743 posts
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 09:32
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: Enemies were moved around by Amare's teleport shenanigans. WTI has fallen from 15 feet above M31 and is now prone in that square (and thus can share the space with WDII).

Also Ceba is immobilized, which is why he hasn't moved yet. He's been failing at saving throws to get free. :(

Would recommend trying to take out the artillery, especially the one Phelan marked for attack rerolls on, so we don't get AoEd again.
Willa
 player, 922 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 10:42
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Thanks :)

However, Willa's damage roll was very lacklustre. :(
Phelan Drixos
 player, 744 posts
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 11:12
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Willa:
Thanks :)

However, Willa's damage roll was very lacklustre. :(


Willa:
Damage: 19 (14 untyped, 5 Psychic)


#StrikerProblems

I kid. :P But it was still amusing all the same. If I roll a 1 on my d10, I only do 7 damage. D:

This message was last edited by the player at 11:12, Fri 22 Dec 2017.

Willa
 player, 923 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 12:27
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
8 of that 19 belongs to you ^^
Willa
 player, 924 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Mon 25 Dec 2017
at 09:21
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Merry Christmas!
Author
 GM, 1529 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 26 Dec 2017
at 11:21
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
A merry Christmas it was indeed.
Author
 GM, 1530 posts
 The Storyteller.
Wed 27 Dec 2017
at 14:37
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
As is usual for this time of year we'll be on a little break/slow posting until just after new years day 2018.
Author
 GM, 1531 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 2 Jan 2018
at 21:35
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Happy New Year Craig!  Now that the holidays are over lets get back on the ball here.
Willa
 player, 926 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Wed 3 Jan 2018
at 00:20
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Happy new year! (Why only me? :O)
Author
 GM, 1532 posts
 The Storyteller.
Wed 3 Jan 2018
at 14:43
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Craig: Because you are literally the only person in this group who isn't on Telegram.
Willa
 player, 927 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Wed 3 Jan 2018
at 15:51
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Ah, right. Sorry >.<
Author
 GM, 1533 posts
 The Storyteller.
Wed 3 Jan 2018
at 16:56
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Oh its nothing to be sorry about Craig.  X3  You can't be on Telegram, you explained it.  Not gonna guilt trip you over it.  You know I realize now that in all the years of running this game, I've never mentioned my name here.  Because everyone else knew it from elsewhere.  But you can call me Urulai.  You'll see me on the Sheets as Thurston Last (another alias).
Drex
 player, 708 posts
 Avenger
Sat 6 Jan 2018
at 10:23
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Author:
@Craig: Because you are literally the only person in this group who isn't on Telegram.
it bit late but happy new year!

I see the bots are fleeing. Max wants to see if we can stop them by immobilising, stunning or slowing them. Drex is a bit wors for where, and prying to his gods at the moment. But I think I could attempt to slow one. He does take a -4 penalty on attack though. Craig if you have a good strategy, let us know I'll be looking in to it aswell and post it here. Max and Storm will you two help too?
Willa
 player, 928 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Sat 6 Jan 2018
at 15:46
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
They're far too far away.  Nothing I can do, sorry :(
Phelan Drixos
 player, 746 posts
Sat 6 Jan 2018
at 15:53
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I don't have any control stuff at all, so I'm just going to be abusing my sniper-level range. I believe Ceba will be doing the same.
Willa
 player, 931 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Wed 10 Jan 2018
at 02:26
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Willa's not wise, nor am I, but I still feel a bit iffy about taking a rest when one of our enemies just fled.  Maybe to get reinforcements.  Thoughts?
Author
 GM, 1537 posts
 The Storyteller.
Wed 10 Jan 2018
at 20:48
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Willa:
Willa's not wise, nor am I, but I still feel a bit iffy about taking a rest when one of our enemies just fled.  Maybe to get reinforcements.  Thoughts?


[Sips his tea menacingly in the background.]
Cebakaala
 New Player, 123 posts
Thu 11 Jan 2018
at 06:12
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Willa:
Willa's not wise, nor am I, but I still feel a bit iffy about taking a rest when one of our enemies just fled.  Maybe to get reinforcements.  Thoughts?


That's why Ceba will only plonk down if everyone else does. He's hurting and nearly died. However, he'll move if the rest do.
Author
 GM, 1538 posts
 The Storyteller.
Fri 12 Jan 2018
at 10:22
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
A friendly reminder if you want to take a short rest you MUST explicitly state it in your post, that's why I gave y'all the last week to decompress and post.  I'll be picking up the daily baton from now on until another festive/holiday season comes along.
Drex
 player, 710 posts
 Avenger
Fri 12 Jan 2018
at 11:45
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Author:
A friendly reminder if you want to take a short rest you MUST explicitly state it in your post, that's why I gave y'all the last week to decompress and post.  I'll be picking up the daily baton from now on until another festive/holiday season comes along.

Made the correction
Author
 GM, 1541 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 15 Jan 2018
at 07:01
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Congratulations Max for our 5,000th post!
Willa
 player, 934 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Tue 16 Jan 2018
at 16:42
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Woohoo 5K!

Also, Ceba did you update the Universal Info Book following the last fight? (I would check myself but didn't look to see what it was before).
Author
 GM, 1546 posts
 The Storyteller.
Fri 2 Feb 2018
at 08:43
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I should have double checked that my message got through, rpol hates mobile browsers for some reason. I've been on vacation for the last two weeks (well a working vacation but a vacation none the less) I'll be returning home today or tomorrow so we shall resume promptly then!
Author
 GM, 1547 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 5 Feb 2018
at 19:03
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
A little side view of your present place in the dungeon. https://i.gyazo.com/c2f24ae49946f99742455cb3d85e3731.png
Willa
 player, 937 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Tue 6 Feb 2018
at 21:07
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Okay so a minor cultural difference happened.  Because we're on the '2nd level' I thought we had gone up 2 flights of steps.  From the picture it appears to be just one.

Normally, I'd expect: ground floor, 1st floor, 2nd floor.

So, thanks for clearing that up :)
Author
 GM, 1549 posts
 The Storyteller.
Wed 7 Feb 2018
at 19:09
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
That's why I realized I might need to better illustrate it incase language failed.
Author
 GM, 1556 posts
 The Storyteller.
Wed 28 Feb 2018
at 16:55
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Okay, seeing as some of you are suffering from analysis paralysis, how about discussing what you'd like to do?  Talking helps decide things.

Here is an update to current map of the area. https://i.gyazo.com/f621c349bf8cd9c28522f512c0eaaeb3.png
Author
 GM, 1558 posts
 The Storyteller.
Fri 2 Mar 2018
at 12:16
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Here's another map update. https://i.gyazo.com/185569b392ddc2313ad44874bb98a070.png
Author
 GM, 1562 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 12 Mar 2018
at 09:27
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: yeah the DC for detecting magic with arcana is ridiculous in heroic.
Willa
 player, 942 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 14:34
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Author:
[Remember to tick off supplies like food, lighting and such which you spend as well as water rations.]


Uh - Don't think I have been doing this, sorry >.<

Luckily Willa doesn't eat and has an ever-burning torch for lighting.  However, what supplies do we need for lighting a campfire?  She has flint and steel for sparks, but what about fuel?  Could we use things from the environment, or do we need to give something up?

Also, Willa has just 1 waterskin.  I assume umbreans need to drink (?) so is that empty now?

Thanks :)
Author
 GM, 1564 posts
 The Storyteller.
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 17:02
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: Usually I don't worry about your supplies, as you are generally out in the wild and have some easy access to drink and water that gets abstracted into your resting cycle.  However you are deep in a dungeon and in a place you can not get access to either food or water.  You are cut off.  So supplies start to matter then, this is why I mentioned it.  Also Umbreans do eat physical food, but vanishingly little.  Willa can subsist on a thimble of organic material a day with no issue.  Water on the other hand is the limiting factor.  Despite her size Willa consumes as much water as an adult human being.  You had access to water on your journey from the crystal tower so you would have at least refilled your waterskin there.  Food wise, I hope you brought rations.  Though for Willa 1 ration would last a little over a week (say 8 days worth of food from 1 standard travel ration).  You don't have to fret about Amare, he has explained he doesn't need food, sleep or water.  He is also an emergency source of supplies as he can create simple, mundane items.  Though how adept he is at making food is a matter up for debate.
Willa
 player, 944 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Fri 16 Mar 2018
at 18:26
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Okay well, Willa doesn't have any rations.  I never knew I needed them because I'd been led to believe (probably by a misunderstanding somewhen) that umbreans feed solely of of psionic energy.  This is the first I've heard about her needing any other type of food :/
Author
 GM, 1565 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sat 17 Mar 2018
at 07:36
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Oh its only really a worry if you are drinking pure water, believe it or not, you typical water source contains enough contaminants that it would classify as food for Willa.  So she may entirely be under a false impression of how her own body works (this was intentional).
Author
 GM, 1569 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 3 Apr 2018
at 19:26
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I'll be npcing Phelan for a post as his player seems unable to post and he's had more than enough time to do so.
Author
 GM, 1572 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sun 8 Apr 2018
at 15:38
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
If you have any problems with the skill challenge or don't quiet understand the rules please don't be afraid to ask for clarification.
Author
 GM, 1573 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 9 Apr 2018
at 14:56
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: Craig, are you having trouble understanding the skill challenge?
Willa
 player, 947 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:38/43 Surges:8/9 AC:17
Tue 10 Apr 2018
at 00:22
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
No sorry - I am having difficulty finding time to post.  I'll get something up within the next 24 hours.
Willa
 player, 955 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Mon 23 Apr 2018
at 12:07
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Bah!  I've been completely forgetting to use my Level 4 feat >.<
Author
 GM, 1581 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 23 Apr 2018
at 12:30
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Well you did now!  You'll need that because you are almost certainly going to get into more fights before you make your way through the tunnels.
Willa
 player, 957 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Tue 24 Apr 2018
at 19:17
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
For my own peace of mind - did the xp and token rewards get updated in the Universal Info Book?  (because I was too dumb to check the totals before).  Thanks :)
Cebakaala
 New Player, 142 posts
Wed 25 Apr 2018
at 08:23
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I have updated the tokens after the last battle, but I haven't updated anyone else's XP because of stepping-on-toes potential. We should be at 3835 each.
Willa
 player, 958 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Wed 25 Apr 2018
at 09:36
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Cebakaala:
I have updated the tokens after the last battle, but I haven't updated anyone else's XP because of stepping-on-toes potential. We should be at 3835 each.


Thanks Ceba!

Here's the thing with the xp, though - at some point mine was linked to the journal page, so I thought it was being updated by somebody there.  So I just checked thinking, np - I'll just update it on the Journal page myself.  Then I noticed something very clever, whoever was updating it there before, had itemised many of the xp gains, as follows:

2900+150+25+250+150+100+180=3755

Which is awesome, many thanks to whoever whoever did that! So a quick check between that total and Ceba's shows the difference to be 80xp (3835 and 3755).  Exactly what was just awarded.  Which means everything is cool and matches up great.  However, because the xp on the sheet was itemised so readily, I decided to check the previous xp award before this one, just because.  Unfortunately, its not 180, its 190!  Could be a typo, right?  Sure but then the end tallies would not be 80 xp different.  So I did an audit and came up with the following xp awards:

23-Apr-18 -  80xp
07-Jan-18 - 190xp
15-Dec-17 - 200xp
21-Sep-17 - 180xp
19-May-17 - 180xp
05-Apr-17 - 100xp
18-Feb-17 - 250xp & 150xp
13-Oct-16 - 25xp
10-Oct-16 - 150xp

As you can see the series in the Journal Tally: 150+25+250+150+100+180, matches up to the xp awards between 10-Oct-2016 and 19-May-2017.  So, what happened to the xp after 19-May-2017? Was it added into the xp chunk at the start of the formula, or has it not been added on at all?

Well, thankfully, our illustrious GM has helped answer that.  On 18-Feb-17, along with the xp awarded, he told us that our total xp was: 3475.  2900+150+25+250+150=3475!  This means the 2900 xp in the journal tab can only be all xp awarded before 10 October 2016.  Conclusion?  We have not tallied our xp since 19-May-2017!

Total current xp should therefore be: 2900+150+25+250+150+100+180+180+200+190+80=4405!

I've updated the journal, if anyone's xp isn't still linked to it, I suggest you re-link it.  Unless of course, you think I have screwed up somewhere, in which case the information to put everything back to how it was is here and I'll do so, if you point out my error.

Thanks :)

This message was last edited by the player at 09:43, Wed 25 Apr 2018.

Author
 GM, 1584 posts
 The Storyteller.
Wed 25 Apr 2018
at 17:01
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: I was the one updating them until this time last year when I asked one of you to take over.  Nobody took the job.
Willa
 player, 959 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Thu 26 Apr 2018
at 10:40
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Ah I remember you asking at the time and OOC being quite quiet on the subject, but I didn't realise no one had taken the responsibility on in the end.  Sorry :/

I'll do it, if no one else wants to.

Also, @Drex: did Drex actually find a convenient 'safe' alcove, or is that just your (the player's) assumption based on your rolls?
Drex
 player, 738 posts
 Avenger
Thu 26 Apr 2018
at 11:29
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
In reply to Willa (msg # 200):

@Author told me to roll Perception and Dungeoneering DC13 on both. So Drex found a storage alcove. And to Drex it seems relatively safe. Let's hope that it is...

This message was last edited by the player at 11:30, Thu 26 Apr 2018.

Drex
 player, 739 posts
 Avenger
Thu 26 Apr 2018
at 11:34
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Author:
@Willa: I was the one updating them until this time last year when I asked one of you to take over.  Nobody took the job.

I think we should select someone for the job. Otherwise we will assume someone is doing it and then no one is. Which means we will never lvl. :(
Author
 GM, 1585 posts
 The Storyteller.
Thu 26 Apr 2018
at 14:57
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
It's the advantage they have of being able to IM me about stuff, so I can tell them what to roll and they can make their own posts on the subject with the details I provide if they succeed.  Phelan does this routinely.
Phelan Drixos
 player, 769 posts
Thu 26 Apr 2018
at 20:16
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
If you don't mind Willa, I'd like to vote you. Honestly I hadn't been doing it because I thought you already were doing it and didn't want to step on your toes!
Drex
 player, 740 posts
 Avenger
Fri 27 Apr 2018
at 07:30
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Phelan Drixos:
If you don't mind Willa, I'd like to vote you. Honestly I hadn't been doing it because I thought you already were doing it and didn't want to step on your toes!

I also thought it was you Willa or Ceba. I wasn't too sure.
Willa
 player, 961 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Fri 27 Apr 2018
at 07:37
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Sure, I'll do it - np.
Willa
 player, 962 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Mon 30 Apr 2018
at 08:44
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Making this post here so you can see the time stamp for it before I make any rolls (trying to avoid delaying things by waiting for a response since it seems simple enough) - Willa is going to try and aid another for the first objective instead of contributing to it herself otherwise, but only if failing to aid another does not count as her failing objective one.  If failing to aid another does count as failing objective one, she will not risk it and the attempt should be ignored (even if my subsequent roll turns out to be a success).

Thanks :)
Author
 GM, 1587 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 1 May 2018
at 06:30
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Oh no, Aid Another doesn't count against the objective.
Willa
 player, 964 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Mon 7 May 2018
at 14:56
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Hmm - have we not passed the test?  We got three successes in a row on objective 1, I think.  Or did we accrue a failure at some point?
Author
 GM, 1589 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 7 May 2018
at 21:59
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: Oh no thats for a single round.  You need 5 successful rounds before the encounter ends.
Willa
 player, 965 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Mon 7 May 2018
at 22:04
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
So, 15 successes total?
Author
 GM, 1590 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 8 May 2018
at 19:43
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Actually, rereading the rules again, I did goof, you should technically be finished.  However I have delayed you by one round (thankyou scratchpad) due to the critical failures suffered in objective one rolls which doesn't negate your success on a round but doesn't grant you a pass either.  So all you need do is pass this last round and you should be good.
Author
 GM, 1596 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sun 20 May 2018
at 14:43
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Don't forget to place yourselves on the battlemap grid in the green squares.
Author
 GM, 1599 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sat 26 May 2018
at 18:55
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Sorry I haven't updated but I feel like absolute brain fog has come over me from this thrice damned flu.  :|
Author
 GM, 1600 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sun 27 May 2018
at 11:58
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Feeling a good bit better, and less sickness fogging my mind.  Craig I'd like to work with you on this next bit with Willa.
Willa
 player, 976 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Wed 30 May 2018
at 16:17
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
So the description of Noetic Flexibility does not describe what type of action it is.  I assume it would be an 'immediate interrupt' (i.e. the one per round type.  No the once per turn opportunity action), but is it a At-Will, Encounter, or Daily ability?

Considering how rarely the Dominated status comes up and that it only works approx. 50% of the time, I would argue that At-Will makes sense (and not just because it may come in useful right now ^^)


Thanks :)
Author
 GM, 1604 posts
 The Storyteller.
Thu 31 May 2018
at 16:40
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Hmmm, but the nature of the text, "-you are dominated-" it is a trigger/reaction ability but yes it would be at-will as the design intent was to have it be useful every time some afflicts you with the charmed/dominated status.
Author
 GM, 1606 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sat 9 Jun 2018
at 19:30
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Max (Phelan) is presently moving so I'm giving him a chance to settle in before we continue at our usual pace.
Author
 GM, 1608 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 11 Jun 2018
at 18:08
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Craig: A warning Craig, this is do or die time, in this rp encounter Willa can die.  So choose her actions carefully, she's at the critical moment where her next choice will determine victory of defeat.
Willa
 player, 978 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Mon 11 Jun 2018
at 19:41
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Author - I'm a simple person.  I fail all the time at reading between lines, comprehension and inferrence.  I need things to be explained.  Otherwise I wont understand or more likely (and worse) will completely misunderstand, the things someone is trying to confer.

For example, I haven't the foggiest what "You have to overwhelm it," means.  With words, logic, magic power, herself, the room?

So, I struggle with situations like this.  Having my character isolated and thrust into a surreal situation without obvious direction (to my poor insight anyway) is very difficult for me.  I spend literally hours (time I don't really have) writing each post I make, pouring over the previous posts and even previous threads for anything that might help.  But even then, in the end it still all comes down to luck over judgement.

Because of this I really struggled with the scene at the stone slab and the dream-like sequence in the shadow temple.  And I am struggling here too.  I am very grateful that you are giving Willa the opportunity to have her own narratives from time to time, but there is a reason why she is 'simple'...and its not her low Wisdom stat.  Its mine.  I simply cannot write a character with more insight than my own.

Now this isn't some weird plea for Willa's life.  If her actions lead to her death, that's fine.  I just want you to understand that if I end up doing something incredibly stupid compared to what you had intended, it is not because I am purposefully throwing her under the bus, or testing you in anyway.  It is just because I have no idea what the fuck I am supposed to be doing XD

This message was last edited by the player at 19:43, Mon 11 June 2018.

Author
 GM, 1609 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 10:12
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Craig: I had thought we could have a private conversation which I could pepper with hints if you were stuck.  But given the post I just read that's a moot point.  Where conscious of it or not you had absorb the needed knowledge over the course of either this little segment of the story or the whole to do what was necessary. So well done, Willa beat it!  Oh there will be a little explanation of why in the story soon enough.
Willa
 player, 980 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 10:33
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Well...that's unexpected.  Better to be lucky than good, I guess :D

(I had already started thinking about a new character)

And thanks :)

This message was last edited by the player at 10:34, Tue 12 June 2018.

Author
 GM, 1610 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 10:36
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
As a rule I don't mind clarifying things for players.  Afterall a GM provides not just the world but also context for the player's interaction with that world.  Though rarely, in situations like this it is a test of character.  At do or die, at that moment you must achieve self-actualization on your own.  Craig, you managed that for Willa sterlingly.  By 1) constructing a system of value, 2) transforming suffering and internalizing meaning and 3) confronting evil in a meaningful and sympathetic way attaining synthesis and choosing to remain yourself in the process.

TL;DR version (or translating the klatchian): Willa took the attempt at coercion by the Nemesis and not only saw it for what it was but intuited the nature of the entity itself and saw not an enemy but instead someone suffering who needs help.
Willa
 player, 981 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 10:45
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I see, well thank you for the explanation.  It helps a lot. :)
Author
 GM, 1613 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 2 Jul 2018
at 12:40
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Craig: Did you update your character development threat for Willa within the last year?  Because I tend to plan out item rewards when y'all level and I get a new set of magic items levels to dish out.  So I swear it was what I had written down in my notepad before.  Considering its changed, either I made a mistake (which can happen when it comes to these notes) or it was changed.  I just want to know which.  XD  Because now I'm a bit paranoid I got the list wrong and need to go over it again.  Either which way you're supposed to get a new rod so the Blast Scepter you have in the Character Dev thread should then be your rod instead.
Willa
 player, 984 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Mon 2 Jul 2018
at 16:04
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Your notes are probably fine. I removed the accurate rod at some point, specifically because I realised it was going to be absolutely ages before I would have a chance to grab the feat for it (When I first penned the list I did not realise how long levellling would take).  I should have said something, but I assumed you would refer to the forums.  Never crossed my mind you'd keep separate notes on character progression.  Sorry :(

EDIT:

So it seems I've been a bit dense.

It's been a while since I looked at magic items and have gotten vicious and deadly muddled in my head.  Vicious is a type of magic rod, where as deadly is a superior implement quality - I was thinking they were the other way around and thus you had given Willa a rod with two superior implement qualities.

A Vicious rod actually increases Willa's curse damage to D8s, so that will work fine for her.  As well as still carrying the +1 enhancement.  That means the base rod is basically a straight swap for the rod of corruption (in terms of gold value at least).  Willa can 'grow' into the accurate property at some point.

I should mention though that Willa was meant to end up duel-wielding the two rods together, since the rod of corruption could be wielded in her off-hand and still activate its property.  Whilst, I loved the story involving it, I'm now a bit stuck with its loss.  Not sure what to replace it with, as it would be weird for her to just get another.

EDIT EDIT:

I do review WIlla's progression post every now and again (like once every 3 or 4 months).  I don't always change anything and will try to remember to tell you if I do going forward, but you might want to double check your notes against what's there.  In case I made any other amendments.  I may have forgotten a modification or two made over the years.

Again I am really sorry for this :/

This message was last edited by the player at 16:44, Mon 02 July 2018.

Author
 GM, 1616 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 2 Jul 2018
at 16:43
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Another rod of corruption is not out of the question just one of a different sort.  You made the last one from the influence of a very vicious curse (see Nemesis).  That came to bite ya in the bud.  Corruption in and of itself isn't evil.  But the source of corruption Willa drew on for her first rod was.  You could find a source of corruption that is not malign.
Willa
 player, 985 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Mon 2 Jul 2018
at 16:50
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Okay, thanks :)

What about Willa's cloak?  Is it back to normal?  If not does the new one provide any mechanical advantages/disadvantage (for example, its description implies it might be bad for sneaking around in).
Author
 GM, 1617 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 3 Jul 2018
at 21:44
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa: Oh no the cloak was part of the mindscape.  It does not persist into the material world.
Willa
 player, 986 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Tue 3 Jul 2018
at 22:04
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Okay, cool.  Thanks again :)
Author
 GM, 1618 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 17 Jul 2018
at 12:59
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
After some delay due to a very nasty cold and recovery I shall attend to posting for those who are indisposed today, nl: Ceba and Phelan.
Willa
 player, 988 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Tue 17 Jul 2018
at 13:14
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Glad you're feeling better :)
Drex
 player, 752 posts
 Avenger
Thu 19 Jul 2018
at 06:07
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Yes glad you feel better. I have a question. Is the spirit still lingering there. And do I need preform ritual to interact with the spirit?
Author
 GM, 1620 posts
 The Storyteller.
Fri 20 Jul 2018
at 14:44
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Spirits will linger until banished or there is some melding of the spirit and material world.  Normally the material world wears on the manifestation of spirits until they retreat to the spirit world.
Author
 GM, 1621 posts
 The Storyteller.
Fri 20 Jul 2018
at 14:54
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
We'll be joined shortly be a new Player named Sardis, its been a while since I've added someone so I hope to gods I remembered how to do it correctly.  X3
Sardis
 New Player, 1 post
Fri 20 Jul 2018
at 15:24
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Hello all :)

So I'll offer the same details I provided the GM, as I'll be seeking assistance and patience/understanding :)

quote:
I have been RPG'ing in numerous forms for the last 20+ years, though the majority of my RPG'ing has been D&D 3.0/3.5/pathfinder.  My daughter (now 20) has been playing 4e since she was in grade 8 (D&D club at school; makes a father proud).

In all that time she hasn't been interested in my playing in her games (likely not cool as a teenager to have your father play as a member of the group).  Now that she's done college, she has a group that plays via skype.  She is away for the summer, but upon her return, her boyfriend intends to start a new game (he is the GM) and they've invited me to play.

So, what I'm looking for is a GM who can take an experienced roleplayer (who doesn't have any 4e experience) under his (or her) wing to teach me the ropes before she gets back.  If that's not you, I understand.  I was going to post in the GM wanted thread, but figured I'd try this first.


Late note: I realize I made an error in that post to the GM...that should read 30+ years (LOL).

All that having been said, it's my understanding that this group has need of a 'controller', so I'm thinking either a wizard or an Invoker.

Thoughts on the best way to go with reasons: and go!
Willa
 player, 989 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Sat 21 Jul 2018
at 13:56
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Hi!

I have to say, that's some rp pedigree you have there :O

We're definitely lacking on AoE and CC, so I think a Controller is good choice.

Some things to note about learning the game, here:

1 - This game has a lot of Homebrewed content, most notably the races but also some smaller things like currency.

2 - In my experience play by post games, especially those as established as this one tend to progress slowly.  They are certainly no comparison to playing the game at a table or in realtime (or as near as) in such places as Roll20.  Though 4E is one of the least popular versions of D&D, as I understand it, so finding a game on there may be difficult.

Otherwise welcome aboard :D

EDIT: @Author Does Willa get the xp for the end of the encounter too?  She was absent for basically all of it, but didn't get any for her own little, uh, excursion.  I mean, I assume so since we have 'normalised' xp across the group, but you know me - I've a little bit of OCD about being sure about these things :P Thanks!

This message was last edited by the player at 14:11, Sat 21 July 2018.

Phelan Drixos
 player, 778 posts
Mon 23 Jul 2018
at 09:48
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Hello indeed! Welcome to the game!

Controller-wise I would recommend an invoker. Less prone to friendly fire issues; 4E doesn’t have vancianc saying so wizard’s superiority is less prevalent in that aspect. If you have questions, I actively play both Pathfinder and 4E so I can make comparisons as needed.
L
Sardis
 New Player, 2 posts
Mon 23 Jul 2018
at 10:35
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Any suggestions as to which of the homebrew races would pair best with the invoke?
Author
 GM, 1622 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 23 Jul 2018
at 12:21
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Willa:  Oh she gets xp too, its basically her share for the other worldly experience she had.

EDIT: Jubei's player is out of his country for a week so he can't resolve his scene until next week.  So I'd suggest you guys take other actions while we let the spirit shenanigans be resolved when he gets back.

This message was last edited by the GM at 15:57, Mon 23 July 2018.

Willa
 player, 991 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Mon 23 Jul 2018
at 16:12
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Invoker
I have never played an Invoker before.  Let's see:

Stats (Primary Wisdom, Secondary Con or Int)
I think I'd favour Wisdom and Int.  Our Author likes his skill challenges.  Though obviously, a high Con gives you much more survivability.

HP:
Low

Defences:
Good
+1 to Fort, Reflex and Will.
Chainmail Armour

Skills:
Not too many trained, but (as stated above) favouring both Intellect and Wisdom is nice

Divine Covenants:
Maledictor's Doom (Any Secondary Stat) - Seems powerful and could couple well with Willa who uses fear attacks a lot.  Range is a bit short for someone with so little hp.  Luckily we have a giant of a tank and it only targets enemies.

Preserver's Rebuke (Int Secondary Stat): Good range, To hit bonus is fine.  Virtually guaranteed to be useable each encounter.  Probably the most reliable of the channel divinities.

Armour of Wrath (Con Secondary Stat): A poor 'escape' with a little damage. Situational.  Can't say I like it.

At Will Attacks
Astral Wind (Benefits from high Con).
+Decent damage for a Controller. +Couples with Willa's Dire Radiance.
-Short Range. -Targets Fortitude. -Targets everything in the AOE.

Avenging Light (Benefits from high Con).
+Decent Range. +Decent Damage. +Basic Attack.
-Targets Fortitude*. -Offers no 'Controller' support

Divine Bolts
+Decent Range. +Decent Damage when used on 2 targets. +Targets Reflex
-Does not offer much in the way of 'Controller' support (just hits 2 targets)

Grasping Shards
+Decent Range. +AOE. +Great Controller support (slows those it hits)
-Targets Fortitude.  -Low damage.

Hand of Radiance
+Decent Range. +Targets Reflex. +No real drawbacks
Okay Damage.  Limited Controller support (Just targeting 3 creatures)

Mantle of the Infidel
+Huge Range.  +Targets Will. +Couples well with Iron Jubei.
-Single Target only

Sun Strike
+Decent Range.  +Targets Reflex.  +Basic Attack. +Slides Target. +Reasonable Damage
-Single Target only

Vanguard's Lightning (Benefits form high Intelligence)
+Decent range. +AOE.  +Targets Reflex.
Very situational Controller Support (Punishes enemy Opportunity Attacks)

Visions of Blood
+Targets Will. +Decent Controller Support.  +Psychic Damage.** Fear Attack***
-Short Range. -Targets everything in the AOE.

*Targeting Fortitude is not awful but, generally speaking, its one of the consistently higher defences.
**Psychic damage is normally one of the least likely resisted damage types
***You get a bonus to attack rolls on abilities with the Fear keyword if you choose to play as an Umbrean

Damage types: most At Wills are radiant, next is lightning, with a single psychic attack.

Races:
Deseekay:
  They have +Wisdom which is great, but lack any bonus to secondary stats.  Die Hard is very nice for any character, but less so for those hoping to go under the enemy's radar.  Both Vital Surge and Breath of Life are just a fantastic abilities imo, though it is the latter that most favours a leader/supporter role.  The one per encounter extra shift distance could be awesome.

Optional Racial Feats: Nothing really game changing for a controller.  Added mobility from Greater Grace of the Wild is nice.

Appearance: A man with a horse's head.  Like a minotaur, but less horny.

Doola Tywuar: Do not support primary stat.  Do have a boost to Con. Ferocious is very nice for someone hoping not to draw too much attention from the enemy.  Dragon's Roar is a decent get out of jail free card and could couple well with Astral Wind if you used an Action surge.

Optional Racial Feats: Again, nothing amazing.

Appearance: Dragonborn-esque?

Ehuron: Support your primary stat (no matter what it is).  No secondary stat support.  Very nice bonus to Fort, Ref and Will saves.  Living construct is fine.  Customisation is awesome.  Resilience is fine.  Oversoul and Gadgetry may lack the obvious power of some other racial abilities, but can turn the battle if used well.

Optional Racial Feats: I like them all to be honest.  Nothing that will really benefit a controller too much, but they're all just generally strong.

Appearance: Advanced and sleek robotic design constructed from overlapping plates.

Human: No primary stat boost, but supports either of your secondary stats.  Other racials are very general - useful to anyone but not really favouring any particular role.

Optional Racial Feats: Again, both good.  Knight of Atorius for a Boost to Wisdom makes this race a much more viable invoker.

Appearance: Horrific mutant bipeds with skin tones ranging from very pale, through the orange/tan spectrum, to basically black.  Sporting patches of hair and a penchant for being absolutely everywhere.

Kaetyma: No primary stat support.  Boost to Con.  They are large creatures, so not really good for classes trying to stay out of the limelight.  Unhindered speed is potentially useful for helping to avoid facing enemies up close, but their size is too detrimental imo.  Either Dragon's Breath or Dragon's Fury would be a nice addition to any Controller's arsenal.

Optional Racial Feats: Enlarged Dragon Breath is fantastic if you have that power, however:

SPECIAL NOTE: I was wondering, Author, if you considered adding the other Dragonborn Breath attack racials to the Kaetyma.  The best one by far (no pun intended) for a controller would be Hurl Breath.

Appearance: A Dragontaur (Like a centaur but 100 times cooler) with some colourful feathers thrown in (because they weren't awesome enough already)

Musadi: No primary stat support, but can boost both secondary stats.  Like Kaetyma are large and therefore difficult to recommend for anyone that isn't a front-line fighter.  Prescience is fantastic for a controller who wants to take their turn asap in combat, though initiative and turn order is handled a little differently in this RPOL game.  Vitality is a good alternative too.  Shifting coils has a lot of Controller utility, but would be risky for one to use as it means exposing yourself to danger.  Better saved for defenders.  Serpent's sway looks amazing to me, however.

Optional Racial Feats: From the Deep is great.  Leviathan's gift actually has its place for a Controller - it would make your AOEs much more devastating against groups of opponents for one turn, but it is severely hampered by being a daily power.

Appearance: A Giant Naga/Salamander like creature (Snake Tail, human-like but scaly torso and a reptilian head).

Narayah: Supports both Primary stat and secondary (as long as its intelligence).  Archetype is 'cute' :D Resistance to Psychic Damage is kinda unique and awesome.  Multitasking seems like it could be fantastic for a controller, though I don't know enough about Invokers to say for certain.  Nimble Reversal seems...okay.  Its a good dodge, but moves you in the direction the attack came from.  Tanslocation seems really powerful in the right situation.

Optional Racial Feats: Able combatant is outrageously good and critter combat training is decent.

Appearance: One of the two small races and the second best of them (no bias here!).  Looks like a raccoon and a fox had a baby, with some red panda genes thrown in.  Bipedal.

Ulh: Supports both Primary stat and secondary (as long as its Constitution).  None of its racials look to benefit a controller, not that they hinder them either.

SPECIAL NOTE: Making use of all you've got used to be an umbrean ability.  I'm not sure if it got moved to Ulh and the skill names weren't changed or it is listed there in error.  Clarification, Author?

Optional Racial Feats: Subversive Will is a brilliant controller power.

Appearance: A white lion man.

Umbrean: Supports both Primary stat and secondary (as long as its intelligence).  Disquiet - from what I've seen you can go heavily into fear with an Invoker, so this could be really good for you.  The rest of the racials are pretty meh and, imo, the useable abilities are little underpowered compared to other races.  Taking advantage is still good though and nice for a controller.

Optional Racial Feats:
Emulation - could good for a pluraton if Umbreans really are still meant to have 'making use of all you've got' but is probably not worth the feat it costs since you can only have 1 power available at any given time.
Shared Awareness is pretty nice.
Unnoticed has the potential to be very powerful, though is better suited to something like a rogue.


Appearance: living snot with arms, legs and eyestalks.

Weaver:
Crafter Caste: Supports Primary stat. Suffers from large size.

Soldier Caste: Supports Primary and Secondary Stats (as long as its Con).  Suffers from large size.

Monarch: Supports Primary Stat only, but is still probably the best option due to it being medium size.

Harmony maybe the most overpowered ability in the class abilities, but only really when there are two weavers.  Its still really good without, though its range is small.   Necromorphosis is extremely powerful as well.  Weaver Toxin is alright, but not something you want to be in a position to use.

Racial Feats:
Flying Leap has its uses, but may not be worth the feat cost.
Hardened Carapace is really good.
I think Mimicry could be amazing, but there are so many conditions attached to it, its hard to judge how often it would actually be useable.

Current Situation:
Our current group consists of 1 Deseekay (Drex), 1 Kaetyma (Iron Jubei), 2 Narayahs (Phelan Drixons and Cebakaala) and 1 Umbrean (Willa).  IIRC We have previously met a Doola, a Musadi, an Ehuron and another Umbrean.
We are currently inside a complex that has been sealed for hundreds of years, making it difficult to justify the presence of many of the races.  However, there is a sizeable Narayah contingent outside and much machinery (meaning a Ehuron may be feasible?).


Overall
Considering all of the above, I'd say its best to go for either Narayah* or Ehuron.  You could go Umbrean too, though I doubt many people would like the idea of rp-ing a disgusting blob.

*I personally think that Narayah are generally the most powerful of all the races, so don't find it surprising that they're topping my list.  However, I'd personally still choose Ehuron - for setting and aesthetic reasons.

Disclaimer:
This is all my opinion and I may be way off with my assessments.  As I said, I've not played an Invoker before.
Drex
 player, 753 posts
 Avenger
Mon 23 Jul 2018
at 20:10
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Hi Sardis! Hope you enjoy our game and compony! We do tend to have waves of active play and slumps in play as well. I think we're at the end of one of those slumps. (well at least in my perspective)
But it seems to work for us and our lifestyles. Seeing this game is still going strong for about 6 years now @Author?
Sardis
 New Player, 3 posts
Mon 23 Jul 2018
at 20:40
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Willa...thank you very much for the lengthy, detailed response...I'll await Author's response to your questions so that I may make a better informed decision :)

And Drex, thank you for the welcome...I look forward to playing alongside all of you :)
Phelan Drixos
 player, 779 posts
Mon 23 Jul 2018
at 20:54
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Right. Invoker advice.

First off, our GM is fairly gentle so you shouldn't feel the need to powerbuild as much, so racial options are a bit more open. That said, a bit of a primer to support Willa's information.

There are three convenants to the Invoker. Wrath, Malediction, and Preservation.

The Wrath Invoker uses Constitution as a secondary score, and will be favouring heavier armour as a result. The riders on their powers tend to favour extra damage, putting you in the role of a Striker-secondary. You end up like a blaster cleric in Pathfinder.

The Preservation Invoker uses Intelligence as a secondary score, and will end up favouring light armour (4E has highest of Dex or Int for AC). Their riders lean toward a support archetype, boosting defences or sliding allies around, a bit like a Leader. Or, again, a Pathfinder Cleric in concept.

The Malediction Invoker can use Intelligence or Constitution as a secondary. Their riders tend to reduce the drawbacks for using some powers (as those powers can be powerful, but usually debuff you as a result).

Armor of Wrath is a fairly lacklustre Channel Divinity, incidentally.
Maledictor's Doom will work well with Willa (and also with Phelan later on).
Preserver's Rebuke continues the stereotype of Preservers being supportive in that it's, well, supportive and a reliable choice.

Do note that divine characters have access to Domain feats (Drex is using one as I recall), which will boost their at-wills in some way. Divine Bolt, for example, can be used as a ranged basic attack (which is important with some synergies) via the Skill domain feat.

I will recommend you pick one 'targeted' At-Will (like Hand of Radiance) and one area-effect At-will (such as Visions of Blood).
Sardis
 New Player, 4 posts
Mon 23 Jul 2018
at 22:43
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Is someone able to PM me a blank character sheet?

Also, what level is this campaign?
Sardis
 New Player, 5 posts
Mon 23 Jul 2018
at 23:20
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
So, race aside for the moment...as far as invoker goes...my first basic decision will need to be whether I want 'leader' or 'striker' to be my secondary role.

So, not knowing the group dynamics...which secondary roll would be more useful to the groups current dynamics?
Author
 GM, 1623 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 24 Jul 2018
at 09:11
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Sardis:  You should have access to the character sheet in the group book I invited you a few days ago.  I checked and saw for some reason you could only view, I gave you editing permissions, you'll find the tab for your character in the row below, next to the other PCs.  You level will match that of the party which presently is 4. I'd say hear what Phelan has to say about your secondary role.  But I'd wager a secondary leader won't go amiss.

@Everyone:  Craig illuminated some things I've missed in the Char book over the months making changes and I've corrected them.  All mentions of advantage (that isn't combat advantage) has so far been removed (which I could find) and replaced with the usual bonuses and penalties (+2 and -2).

Feat Emulation:  Got a small rework to make it viable and useful but limit it as well.

And yes Kaetyma may make use of dragon breath feats usually restricted to the Dragon born in 4e.  I simply haven't added them all to this book yet.  As I only looked at the PHB for feats.  So any additional suggestions for feats are welcome!

This message was lightly edited by the GM at 09:11, Tue 24 July 2018.

Willa
 player, 992 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Tue 24 Jul 2018
at 11:29
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Author

Thank you :)

So, as I read the changes, making use of all you've got is now gone entirely, being rolled up into the pluraton description instead.  It also reads as though Pluratons can now use two racial encounter powers per combat.  If so, that is pretty big and completely accounts for the relative weakness of easing their pain and psychic parasite. It may even be overpowered, especially combined with emulation.

What happens if a singleton takes Emulation, or is it specifically Pluraton only?  If you don't have an answer to that, I'd suggest making it Pluraton only.

If an Umbrean took Dragon Breath from Emulation, would they then also be able to access the Dragon Breath feats?

For that matter can an Umbrean even Emulate a power that needs a decision to be made 'at character creation'?  If they can, must the Umbrean emulate it at character creation or could they still pick it up later?

@Sardis I don't think it really matters whether you go leader or striker.  Just decide which you'd rather do - deal damage or enable others to do so.  There is a nice rule in 4E that lets you make 1 power/feat/skill change to your character every time you level up, in case you don't like the decision you made.  So you could adjust on the fly.  Though I suspect you'll still be restricted somewhat by your covenant and attribute choices.

As for the group, I feel we have some decent single target damage, but might lack AoE.  Willa has two Encounter powers, but one of those is relatively expensive to use (normally requiring her to expend both the power itself and an encounter utility power).  I feel that she also lacks the hitting power of other warlocks, since I've been prioritising her hit chance for reliability over everything else (I hate missing almost* more than anything else).

Otherwise, there's rarely a fight when someone does not fall unconscious or at least take a beating so anything you can do to help our front-liners would be nice.  Especially, if it potentially frees up Phelan to make more use of his thoroughly awesome 'Magic Weapon' at will.

*Loss of character control is the actual worst :P
Sardis
 New Player, 6 posts
Tue 24 Jul 2018
at 13:05
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
ok...so I'm currently thinking going with a Malediction Invoker.  Thoughts on the following stat array (22pts):

Str 11
Dex 12
Con 14
Int 14
Wis 16
Cha  8

Willa
 player, 993 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Tue 24 Jul 2018
at 16:25
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Seems good.  You'll have a nice base for skills with a rounded attribute distribution.  Plus, you still have any racial bonuses to add, as well as the 2 points gained at level 4.

Just to repeat what Phelan said before:  Dex doesn't affect AC or Reflex defences whilst you have a higher Intellect.  It will still buff skills and initiative though.

If you are interested in having a character with a decent base for skills, the Feat 'Jack of all trades' is available to characters with high Intellect and buffs all untrained skills by 2.  Willa has it because she always seems to do badly in the skill tests.

On the subject of feats, at level 4 you should have 3.  Unless you are one of the races that can provide a 4th (Ehuron or Human, I think).

I would recommend taking an expertise for the implement you are planning to use.  It will add +1 to hit per Tier with powers used through that implement.  There are a number available and usually come with an additional benefit too.
Author
 GM, 1624 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 24 Jul 2018
at 19:06
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Willa has some sound advice Sardis.
Sardis
 New Player, 7 posts
Wed 25 Jul 2018
at 02:45
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I appreciate all the advice and am working on it...unfortunately I worked all day and had to go to a union meeting tonight that ran about 3 hours.  I'm off Friday, so hoping to get a lot done then.

Would the following be a better array for this character:

Str 13
Dex 10
Con 14
Int 14
Wis 16
Cha  8

Willa
 player, 994 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Wed 25 Jul 2018
at 08:48
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Ah, there is something potentially very important that I have been forgetting about!  So there is something else that your attributes do that is kind of an 'under the hood' thing.  They determine what feats you have access too.  Unfortunately, I do not know every single feat in the game let alone their requirements or what would be good for the invoker.  Luckily, someone has already done all the legwork:

http://www.enworld.org/forum/s...-Invokers-(By-Cazzeo)

I think such a guide has been written for every class and they can be really helpful.  Generally, I find everything they say to be common sense and they lean heavily towards min-maxing, but it is always nice to have second opinion.

There are some sample builds on the second page, though the stats have already been adjusted for racial bonuses.

Sorry for not thinking about all this before.

Otherwise, I think your attribute distribution looks nice.
Drex
 player, 755 posts
 Avenger
Wed 25 Jul 2018
at 12:53
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@all, I'm asking permission to spend half a fortune token on mundane components for my next roll.
Willa
 player, 995 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Wed 25 Jul 2018
at 14:48
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Sure Drex, no problem.  Ceba hasn't been around for a while, so I don't think our token rewards have been updated yet.  Perhaps you could add them at the same time?
Drex
 player, 757 posts
 Avenger
Wed 25 Jul 2018
at 15:48
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Willa:
Sure Drex, no problem.  Ceba hasn't been around for a while, so I don't think our token rewards have been updated yet.  Perhaps you could add them at the same time?

Okay will do. :)
Willa
 player, 998 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Tue 31 Jul 2018
at 00:40
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Iron Jubei

Gonna test your memory a bit here.  I've been re-reading some of our adventures (which I do from time to time, mostly because its so easy to forget details over an extended period of time) and I got to the point in the Weyr when we entered the tower and Willa registered you all.  At that time you were investigating the concentric circles on the floor and reading the draconic script there.

Unusually our illustrious author replied to you with a post that we could all see (though I guess there may have been other stuff that he pm'd to you).  As you never relayed the information to us by an IC post, I was wondering if you took the author's post to be to all of us (i.e. you effectively relaying the information you found) or if you forgot to tell us (unintentionally or otherwise).

Thanks!

For information, the post in question is

quote:
The dais held three concentric circles within so rather than just one teleportation circle this was a nested circle connecting to at least four other locations.  Almost all the draconic script were arcane formulas Jubei could not make any sense of.  Though each circle held a large, easily recognizable name.  The first, the largest circle, was for name so old in the draconic tongue as to be almost unrecognizable.  It was one of the names of a legendary dragon queen Lahdunshul.  The greatest and most common tale of her was of taming the serpents which swam the great rivers amongst the stars and commanded them to build her a great palace upon the moon.  A palace so vast that it could house all of dragonkind and their servants to spare.

  The second and third names Jubei recognized belonging to other weyrs found among the Crystal Isles.  Both twere ruins and had been looted over the millenia.

  The fourth name was simply Lower Chambers.

  The reliefs was of battle between two great armies.  Dragons, doola tywuar and kaetyma all fought across two lands split by a sea.  At the back of one army towered the figure of Malus.  A fierce, muscular ulh with tooth like, twisted horns crowing his head.  His expression was a happy snarl as he pointed a vicious looking waraxe over the army before him toward what you’d guess is the opposing army.  His other arm held a spiked mace.

  The figure behind the other army was that of Alyssia, a spindly, almost ethereal looking Ehuron.  She carried only a staff.  Her head was the sun illuminating the battlefield.  The rays grazing her size of the relief before clashing against the smoky darkness that spread from out from Malus’s mane.

  If this represented a specific battle Jubei wasn’t sure, though it wouldn’t be odd for it to just be another representation of the ceaseless wars between those two physical gods.

  On closer examination Jubei found the entire relief was engraved with draconic script.  No, the relief was made up by the script.  The writing itself was a list of names.  As the realization grew Jubei realized there were millions of names recorded upon that wall.


I only ask because it seems that Lahdunshul's moonbase fell beneath our radar a bit.  At least it did mine and I don't remember it being mentioned again since.  It seems to me that this is could either be an explanation for what happened to the dragons (they simply relocated) or, more likely, it is the 'citadel in the sky' where the Tyrant King is imprisoned.  Perhaps both.

On another note, when we were trying to decide how to enter they Weyr, your Gods granted you a vision that you thought showed Phelan using his teleportation device to get us inside.  You asked if his device had an extending blade.  However Phelan said it had nothing of the sort and was impossible for it to bypass the Weyr's wards.  I'm thinking now that the vision was either trying to show you the safest way to get to the Tyrant King's prison (not inside the Weyr) and that was was using the teleportation circle in the tower (in effect what you thought was a blade extending from Phelan's device was actually a symbol representing the tower) or it was telling you that Phelan's device was a key to operate the teleportation circle there and give us access to the Tyrant King.  Again perhaps both.

I dunno - I'm probably overthinking things, but the reference to Lahdunshul building a place on the moon to house all dragons seems very important to me, for us to have never discussed it.

This message was last edited by the player at 00:40, Tue 31 July 2018.

Author
 GM, 1627 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 31 Jul 2018
at 07:57
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Craig: Actually, no I didn't private it because there would have been a big hole in the post.  I'll only private things if it doesn't make the post look weird.  So small bits of information.  I've noticed if I go too long in private about information it gets lost.  So its better to share it for you all to see so that stuff like what you just did could be engaged with.

  No spoilers, but Craig, in some respects you are correct.  There is a great deal of detail embedded into those descriptions that all tie into things you have, are, and will see.  I've had a very long time to compose the elements of these stories so every detail is often well thought out months in advance.
Willa
 player, 999 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Thu 9 Aug 2018
at 12:32
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Amendment made to my character development thread:

Arms and Hands slot items were listed under one slot category.  Now split into 2.  Added lions claw gauntlets as a second possible hands slot item.
Willa
 player, 1000 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Wed 29 Aug 2018
at 09:33
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Drex, you could ask it if it knows what lies ahead: any dangers we may face and how we may prepare for/avoid them?  It has, presumably, been here for centuries.  It may have learnt something useful.
Drex
 player, 763 posts
 Avenger
Thu 30 Aug 2018
at 19:28
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Valid point Willa. Didn't think of that. Would you mind asking it. I don't want to Chang the feel of Drex's post. I was trying to be dramatic and don't know if I ask a question after attempting he is selfish would negate his remorse And congratulations on your thousandth post! [Fireworks goes of in the background]
Willa
 player, 1001 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Fri 31 Aug 2018
at 15:28
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Hehe ty.  Willa can ask, but I'll Iron Jubei's conversation play out first.
Drex
 player, 764 posts
 Avenger
Sat 1 Sep 2018
at 10:25
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Willa:
Hehe ty.  Willa can ask, but I'll Iron Jubei's conversation play out first.

That works for me.
Author
 GM, 1635 posts
 The Storyteller.
Wed 5 Sep 2018
at 22:55
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Sardis will unfortunately no longer be joining us.
Drex
 player, 765 posts
 Avenger
Sun 9 Sep 2018
at 06:41
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
So if anyone else wants to ask the spirit something. Please do so. If not Drex will release the spirit in my next post. I don't think we should keep it here any longer. I don't want to cause any more hare to it. (and cause it to have a reason for violent outburst of rage towards our party)
Drex
 player, 768 posts
 Avenger
Mon 17 Sep 2018
at 22:08
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
So quick mind refresh, just to get my thoughts in the right direction:

1. We are going to the main crystal tower.

2. We need to find the corruption and stop it.
 2.1. We are assuming the corruption is not the Nemesis and something different, right?

3. We are also trying to find something or learn about something that Jubei seen in a vision, which might also be in the main tower. But might not be.

4. Find out what happened to Willa's people. Possibly something to do with the corruption that is now present.

Did I miss something.
Author
 GM, 1638 posts
 The Storyteller.
Fri 21 Sep 2018
at 21:50
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
BTW, if you've been wondering where Max has been for over the past week, he was partially in hospital due to appendicitis.  He's alright now (as of the time of writing) but with a rather scathing opinion of the German healthcare system (in Berlin anyway).

This message was last edited by the GM at 21:51, Fri 21 Sept 2018.

Phelan Drixos
 player, 782 posts
Wed 26 Sep 2018
at 11:29
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Guess who is back from hospital?!

Well sort of back. Still recovering but eh.
Willa
 player, 1006 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Wed 26 Sep 2018
at 11:33
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Welcome back :D I hope you have a speedy recovery.
Author
 GM, 1640 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sun 7 Oct 2018
at 16:44
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Yes please do take short rest those who intend to before continuing.
Cebakaala
 New Player, 157 posts
Thu 25 Oct 2018
at 08:23
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Sardis: Yo! Hello, new person. We have a couple of people who can do a lot of murdering, but I can agree with the idea of a secondary leader.
Author
 GM, 1644 posts
 The Storyteller.
Thu 25 Oct 2018
at 15:45
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Cebakaala, he's not in anymore.  X3
Author
 GM, 1655 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sun 25 Nov 2018
at 15:55
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
My next post will close off Chapter 5 and I'll also start off Chapter 6.
Author
 GM, 1659 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 10 Dec 2018
at 15:11
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
@Craig:  You doing alright buddy?
Willa
 player, 1018 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Tue 11 Dec 2018
at 15:58
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Sorry for not posting.  I'm fine, though.  Thanks for asking.
Author
 GM, 1663 posts
 The Storyteller.
Tue 25 Dec 2018
at 19:16
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Merry Christmas everyone!  Things are quiet here as usual around this time of year.
Willa
 player, 1021 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Wed 26 Dec 2018
at 13:22
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Merry Christmas! :D
Iron Jubei
 player, 773 posts
 Paladin 22AC 15 otherDefs
 37 HP 14 Surges
Fri 28 Dec 2018
at 19:35
Re: OOC - General Chat 03

Merry Christmus indeed! Super belated and all from my side <.<
Author
 GM, 1664 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 7 Jan 2019
at 09:50
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I hope Craig is all right we've been waiting on him for over a week now.
Willa
 player, 1025 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Mon 7 Jan 2019
at 15:14
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Crap, sorry I completely forgot you were waiting on me.

My hard drive died and I've been pretty distracted trying to get my pc up and running again, as well as recovering lost work.

I'm fine though, thanks for your consideration.
Author
 GM, 1665 posts
 The Storyteller.
Mon 7 Jan 2019
at 20:00
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Hey I am glad you're alright.
Author
 GM, 1669 posts
 The Storyteller.
Sat 19 Jan 2019
at 09:51
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
I'd like to welcome our new player who will be joining the group at the first opportunity in the active story thread.  For now meet your new player Kestho aka; Gyr.
Willa
 player, 1029 posts
 Star Pact Warlock
 HP:43/43 Surges:9/9 AC:17
Sat 19 Jan 2019
at 10:19
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Oh, sweet.  Welcome :D
Gyr
 player, 1 post
 Traveller Uhl
 Primal Guardian Druid
Sat 19 Jan 2019
at 17:16
Re: OOC - General Chat 03
Thank you for having me.  I have experience with D&D4e, RP-by-post, and D&D, but this is my first time as a D&D4e player and an established play-by-post.  Let's have a good game!