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Relaxation Room (OOCs)

Posted by The KeeperFor group 0
Jackie Carter
SG-X2, 242 posts
Human Explorer
Air Force Major
Wed 15 May 2019
at 19:48
  • msg #996

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

In reply to Coleman Hendricks (msg # 995):

Not now but staff sgt fox was debating with the Archealogist who is an officer on the team who is better understands another culture but that was before going back to SGC and being sent back out
Coleman Hendricks
SG-X2, 182 posts
Human Scout
Army Ranger LTC
Wed 15 May 2019
at 20:25
  • msg #997

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

Well, if/when that sort of conflict arises again, then I'm sure Lucas will want to come watch us. ;)
Kaspar Radoslaw Gorski
SG-X1, 622 posts
Professor of Anthropology
Major, Polish Land Forces
Tue 28 May 2019
at 02:10
  • msg #998

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

In reference to current Shot In The Dark 2 posts:

This is purely for information.  I got tired of waiting for the GM.
This is purely for information.  I got tired of waiting for the GM.
This is purely for information.  I got tired of waiting for the GM.
This is purely for information.  I got tired of waiting for the GM.
This is purely for information.  I got tired of waiting for the GM.
This is purely for information.  I got tired of waiting for the GM.
This is purely for information.  I got tired of waiting for the GM.
This is purely for information.  I got tired of waiting for the GM.
This is purely for information.  I got tired of waiting for the GM.
This is purely for information.  I got tired of waiting for the GM.

     I hope that repeating that 10 times is sufficient for reading comprehension and prevention of misunderstanding.

First: Can Major Ansari still control the exterior door?  Can she re-open it?

Secondly:
Sarah Morgan:
Noting the movement within the group and the continued deference to Kaspar, Sarah simply takes note of the events and leaves her cam recording as she turns, expecting them to follow, and heads towards where the Angel had appeared from and beyond assuming it is possible.

     The Angel appeared in a flash of fire-like light, hovering abouve the floor, in the center of the chamber (see msg #674 of "X2U-238: Shot in the Dark 2" thread).

     Freyda has already confirmed--via her Asgard-built sensors--and verbally made report that the "Angel" was some kind of hologram (see msg #707 of "X2U-238: Shot in the Dark 2" thread).

SO ONLY THE FOLLOWING is intended as Sarcasm:
     Therefore, the Angel "appeared from" a projector.
Naseem Ansari--Hecate
player, 49 posts
Marine--Tok'ra
Wed 29 May 2019
at 01:37
  • msg #999

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

Please stop, folks. Can dirty laundry be handled in PMs like adults. Please?
Kaspar Radoslaw Gorski
SG-X1, 624 posts
Professor of Anthropology
Major, Polish Land Forces
Wed 29 May 2019
at 04:12
  • msg #1000

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

In reply to Naseem Ansari--Hecate (msg # 999):

Naseem, only that last line was me being an a**hole--well, okay, under duress I'll admit that maybe the 10 repetitions was, too.

But the rest really is just me pointing out some data, and hoping that the GM might then come forward and answer the few questions that are still left open.  None of that is meant, by me, to have any subtext or hidden meaning--only the things I identified as being thus, do.
Naseem Ansari--Hecate
player, 50 posts
Marine--Tok'ra
Wed 29 May 2019
at 09:49
  • msg #1001

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

In reply to Kaspar Radoslaw Gorski (msg # 1000):

**puts on the thumb screws to apply duress**
Kyle McGuinness
SG-X2, 272 posts
Human Scientist
Civilian
Wed 29 May 2019
at 10:26
  • msg #1002

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

What in the nine hells is going on elsewhere in the galaxy?
Lucas Wheeler
SG-X2, 196 posts
Gunnery Sgt, USMC
Force Recon (reactivated)
Wed 29 May 2019
at 13:13
  • msg #1003

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

The thumb screws are out?

Oh, this could get good!
Coleman Hendricks
SG-X2, 184 posts
Human Scout
Army Ranger LTC
Wed 29 May 2019
at 14:31
  • msg #1004

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

Someone let Chris Judge direct the other team's episode this time.
Naseem Ansari--Hecate
player, 51 posts
Marine--Tok'ra
Wed 29 May 2019
at 14:54
  • msg #1005

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

Is Amanda directing our episode?
Kyle McGuinness
SG-X2, 273 posts
Human Scientist
Civilian
Wed 29 May 2019
at 15:11
  • msg #1006

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

Think I'm probably safer curled up on Petropolis...
Coleman Hendricks
SG-X2, 185 posts
Human Scout
Army Ranger LTC
Wed 29 May 2019
at 15:28
  • msg #1007

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

Naseem Ansari--Hecate: No, you're the "other team" that I was referring to; definitely a Christopher Judge episode. All it is missing is T'ealc crying for some reason. ;)

Kyle: Yeah, all we have to deal with is poison gas, psychic mind-killers and thousands of goblins. Not the dangerous stuff like emotions and inter-party conflict!
Naseem Ansari--Hecate
player, 52 posts
Marine--Tok'ra
Wed 29 May 2019
at 15:38
  • msg #1008

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

Indeed.
Karen Stewart
player, 37 posts
USAF SSgt Pararescue
Fri 31 May 2019
at 04:48
  • msg #1009

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

The other group is definitely entertaining, makes me want to eat popcorn while reading.
Hilda
SG-X1, 842 posts
Cimmerian Scout/Soldier
MisSpec, SSgt (honorary)
Fri 31 May 2019
at 08:56
  • msg #1010

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

When the Viking is the voice of reason, moderation, and peace, there's a problem. :D
Karen Stewart
player, 38 posts
USAF SSgt Pararescue
Fri 31 May 2019
at 17:07
  • msg #1011

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

Exactly! It’s very interesting to read. I’m new to the Petropolis group, so no time to see if there’s anything to potentially conflict over. Medical skills came in hand for a minute or two and a little bit going forward, but I’ve mainly been doing translations.
StarMaster
GM, 1027 posts
Storyteller
License to Tamper
Sun 2 Jun 2019
at 20:48
  • msg #1012

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

SG-X2 had a bit of drama with a prior character, Travis Fox.

It's about how you play your character.
Tate Ames
SG-X1, 59 posts
US Army Ranger SSgt
Mon 3 Jun 2019
at 04:47
  • msg #1013

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

Starmaster, as of Kaspar’s last post is Tate still in that main chamber, or have I made it to the tunnel with FRED? The answer is important for how I respond to what just happened... cause it SOUNDS like Kaspar just threatened to suicide bomb an entire SG team via angel hologram security system.
Kaspar Radoslaw Gorski
SG-X1, 628 posts
Professor of Anthropology
Major, Polish Land Forces
Mon 3 Jun 2019
at 05:59
  • msg #1014

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

In reply to Tate Ames (msg # 1013):

DAMMIT!!  You figured it out!  I didn't think anyone would take it to that step!

Yeah, Kaspar just implied he's willing to escalate the situation--further implying that that escalation might involve gunplay.  But since it looked like everyone--Sarah, specifically--was willing to start up the same argument that "might have" triggered a "theoretical" anger-detector, I/Kaspar didn't think anyone would consider the possibility that if Kaspar started shooting randomly, the Guardian would come back!

Clever Boy...[Austrian Accent] "I like you, Benny, I kill you last" ^_^

Don't worry, Tate, Kaspar has been effectively castrated.  Nothing I/He says will be believed, nothing he does will come to anything.  Until I toe the line, Kaspar is neutralized.  I've been here before.
Tate Ames
SG-X1, 60 posts
US Army Ranger SSgt
Mon 3 Jun 2019
at 06:20
  • msg #1015

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

haha, I mean you could have just let it go as Sarah was leaving. You'd basically "won". Seems like a man like Kaspar could easily have been more than happy with his "foe" just peacing out.

As for the alien experts being against him, Gavan explicitly said he prefers Kaspar stay in command, but that he'd like to stay and finish the mission instead of taking the whole team home. Freyda seems to be against him, but hasn't really done anything to enforce her will, so she could be basically ignored/overridden with majority consent. Naseem has directly defended Kaspar's retention of power. Basically all of the uniformed military have agreed Kaspar's in charge. There's no real challanege to his authority even if Sarah did stay. (Kaspar and her would just continue to dislike each other, but her "mutiny", though I question if it ever was that, would have been over.) There have been multiple points where Kaspar could have just shut up and smugly declared victory to himself as he regained command of the team, which would have still fit with a mildly arrogant and presumptuous Cold War veteran officer, without scraping the entire mission. (which is not to say that there weren't also multiple points where Sarah could have been like, "I don't like Kaspar, but I was only making a point before anyway, and this has gotten way out of control. Let the blowhard be a blowhard and I'll just keep being an effective and productive team member with everyone else, rolling my eyes whenever Kaspar is Kaspar")

As far as Tate is concerned, in character, military protocol made Kaspar in charge, and he certainly doesn't care about national heritage, cause he kind of hates the American military command structure anyway. So much so that he was willing, if forced, to zip tie someone he sees as a civilian chaffing under the relatively crappy military command structure that explicitly promotes jack asses sometimes because they're effective leaders of groups of men who have been efficiently broken down by basic training, though really bad leaders of civilians who have not been crushed by years of military procedure.

However, threatening to suicide bomb the entire team if they don't acquiesce to a drastically excessive and clearly spiteful "final" order, when there's no reason for it to be a final order anyway, is basically grounds for a summary field fragging if it means saving the rest of the team. Which is why it's important to know if he's in the room or not. Not because Tate would kill you, because that would be an excessive, party breaking action for the sake of playing IC. If he's in the tunnel he won't hear the crazy crap Kaspar just said and let the others deal with it, but if he's in the room he'll basically call Kaspar's bluff in the hopes that even if he does try it the hologram would be advanced enough to only kill individuals threatening violence instead of flaming the entire room. Because a commanding officer that responds to insubordination by threatening to intentionally kill his entire team deserves to eat a bullet. (or a flame ball as the case may be.)



OOC - I dig the Commando reference. ;)



just in case it's not obvious, what the GM posted not a few posts ago is totally correct. It is absolutely about how you play your character.

When you play RPGs it's not solely about being "in character". GMs have to maintain a world in which the players can enjoy themselves and at least FEEL like they have a say in what's happening. But that doesn't absolve players of responsibility for the continuation of the game. You don't do game breaking crap for the sake of remaining "In Character", you warp your character as gently as possible around IC drama so that everyone can continue to have fun. ("Have Fun" here meaning "staying in the game", not "Being totally free of IC conflict".)

As an example, (skip this if it seems too long) when I was just a baby RPGer relative to my current self, I was playing a monk in a Kingmaker D&D campaign. My character was explicitly devoted to allowing captured opponents to live if they promised to be better people/kobolds/whatever. However, another player had made a hunter whose past made him a brutal executioner of anyone who crossed the line between legal and illegal. In the first few sessions he shot every prisoner I released, right in the back, as they walked away from me. I got tired of it, but instead of going OOC and asking him to be a bit more lenient with his executioner shtick so that I could continue playing my character, I decided that, when I captured a bandit captain and her trial found her guilty, I tried to convince the guard captain to give her freedom on the condition she swore to basically become my follower. The Captain almost agreed, but the hunter stepped in and convinced him to maintain the death penalty. I then took it even further by trying to break the prisoner out in the night. (This should have worked, but it was an in person game, and the hunter used meta knowledge to position himself to notice my break out attempt.)

I was so mad at him that my monk just started attacking his character, an while I would have one a straight up duel, the guards woke up and just saw the monk beating on a fellow party member, and the bandit captain freed and trying to run away.

Eventually I just retired the monk and made a new PC, and while I am in no way absolved of guilt for that confrontation, I still never really forgot the other player's absolute, game breaking desire to enforce his IC will upon everyone else at the table.


TL;DR - It's as much the responsibility of the players to help the other players have fun as it is the GMs. We're not absolved of our own crappiness just because we don't control NPCs. Arguably we're MORE responsible because our PCs are the main characters of the show, and our actions have more of an effect on each other than any NPC that can just be ignored/killed/knocked unconscious/charmed out of relevance.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:38, Mon 03 June 2019.
Hilda
SG-X1, 843 posts
Cimmerian Scout/Soldier
MisSpec, SSgt (honorary)
Mon 3 Jun 2019
at 06:32
  • msg #1016

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

I don't know what's going on now, or why or how we got to this point, and I no longer care. Both Sarah and Kaspar are disgracing themselves and derailing the mission, and this situation has moved from a problem to a farce to a waste of time. Posting ain't helping, so I'm sitting out until this is done.
Tate Ames
SG-X1, 61 posts
US Army Ranger SSgt
Mon 3 Jun 2019
at 06:45
  • msg #1017

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

Hilda:
I don't know what's going on now, or why or how we got to this point, and I no longer care. Both Sarah and Kaspar are disgracing themselves and derailing the mission, and this situation has moved from a problem to a farce to a waste of time. Posting ain't helping, so I'm sitting out until this is done.


Yup, I'm honestly cool with a time jump back to SGC and whatever happens happens.
Kaspar Radoslaw Gorski
SG-X1, 629 posts
Professor of Anthropology
Major, Polish Land Forces
Mon 3 Jun 2019
at 06:56
  • msg #1018

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

In reply to Hilda (msg # 1016):

It's already over, Hilda.

Kaspar's preferred endgame, here, is for both he and Sarah to return to the SGC.  Kaspar wants that to happen.  But he does have a concern that either he or Sarah are under the influence of...something.  He doesn't believe it's him, but he's willing to entertain the possibility.

Either way--despite what Kaspar might say--I will be pushing him to return with Sarah to the SGC as quickly as possible.

She'll be back--she could have written down every disgusting word ever spoken by Humans, and StarMaster would ignore it.  But Kaspar is unlikely to return--I had the audacity to bring up the UCMJ.
Tate Ames
SG-X1, 72 posts
US Army Ranger SSgt
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 00:03
  • msg #1019

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

You want our IC descriptions of what happened posted in the same briefing room thread that Kaspar and Sarah posted in?
StarMaster
GM, 1033 posts
Storyteller
License to Tamper
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 01:02
  • msg #1020

Re: OOC : Relaxation room

Yeah, that's the best place.
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