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OOC: Rules Wrangling.

Posted by StarMasterFor group 0
StarMaster
GM, 78 posts
Mon 9 Dec 2013
at 22:00
  • msg #28

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

I was thinking a sidearm would be issue as well, as a 'back-up' weapon. I'm not sure it was issued in the beginning. It might get issued to those not willing to use the submachine gun.
Travis Fox
player, 45 posts
Mon 9 Dec 2013
at 22:20
  • msg #29

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

StarMaster:
I was thinking a sidearm would be issue as well, as a 'back-up' weapon. I'm not sure it was issued in the beginning. It might get issued to those not willing to use the submachine gun.

I have to admit that as Fox I was going to request the following as Fire arms
the P90 and the FN Five-seven Both fitted with silencers and AIM dot sights
Pistol with two x 20rd mags
Kaspar Radoslaw Gorski
player, 26 posts
Odpowiedz na moje pytania
Thu 12 Dec 2013
at 04:04
  • msg #30

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

"...FN P90 with standard shoulder sling and 60 rounds of 5.7x28mm FMJ..."

FMJ! FMJ!!  Full Metal Jacket!!  That's just a copper-covered lead slug!  Screw that!  I want steel-core, teflon jacketed armor piercers!!  Those friggin Jaffa wear metal-plated armor for Via's sake!

^_^

And yes, I am a Gunhead ^_^

Y'know, that makes me think (usually a dangerous activity)...
I don't think I ever saw anyone on the show use a Desert Eagle.  Automatic shotguns with drum magazines, yes.  But 50-calibre hand cannons, no. ^_^
Travis Fox
player, 51 posts
Thu 12 Dec 2013
at 05:22
  • msg #31

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

 True but the Round does not seem to need it. Take a look at it. It has some very interesting characteristics.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:33, Thu 12 Dec 2013.
Vasandra Tourmaline
player, 49 posts
Thu 12 Dec 2013
at 09:11
  • msg #32

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

It is worth pointing out that the Armor Piercing qualities of the FN-5.7 weapons, the sidearm and P90, stacks with the quality of the ammunition, so putting what the book calls AP rounds into a P90 is still a very effective choice against the heavily armored Jaffa.

The .50 caliber pistol on the other hand does not technically have an AP function, although it's average damage (disregarding its exceptionally higher probability of attaining this average) improvement over the FN-5.7 weapons more than makes up for this slight oversight, even without AP rounds.  The .50 caliber rifle has an even wider margin of improvement while retaining the AP function of the FN-5.7 although a slightly higher probability for variance away from the average.
Sarah Morgan
player, 70 posts
Thu 12 Dec 2013
at 10:32
  • msg #33

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

I wanted an Intar... but it was deemed too dangerous for me :-)
Marcus Wright
player, 15 posts
Big Brain coming through
Thu 12 Dec 2013
at 15:59
  • msg #34

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

StarMaster:
I was thinking a sidearm would be issue as well, as a 'back-up' weapon. I'm not sure it was issued in the beginning. It might get issued to those not willing to use the submachine gun.


In the show they had back up 9mm pistols and those not qualified, Dr Jackson, for the MP5 or M16 only had the pistols till they started using Zats.

If memory serves.
Sarah Morgan
player, 72 posts
Thu 12 Dec 2013
at 16:08
  • msg #35

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

I think that was more for 'convenience' as I do recall seeing Daniel with the P90 when show needed it *chuckle*  But yes, he mostly only has a pistol.

I still think an Intar would make more sense!
Cormac McLane
player, 16 posts
Thu 12 Dec 2013
at 16:09
  • msg #36

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

Yor right on the side arms and Jackson having just the pistol.  He eventually starts dual weilding pistols. He must have been riffle or smg certified by that point though.
Sarah Morgan
player, 73 posts
Thu 12 Dec 2013
at 16:21
  • msg #37

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling


StarMaster
GM, 87 posts
Thu 12 Dec 2013
at 18:50
  • msg #38

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

Yeah, that was the argument I made. But I was going from memory, too. I suspect the premise they were using was that the P90 was a lot easier to use, so even with minimal training, Jackson could use it without endangering his teammates.

The P90 comes with its own companion sidearm, which is the FN FiveseveN, because it uses the same ammo. The US went to the P90 because the ammo had superior ability to pierce armor, even without the AP stack.
Travis Fox
player, 55 posts
Thu 12 Dec 2013
at 19:20
  • msg #39

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

In reply to StarMaster (msg # 38):

Thought this might be of interest to some people
http://world.guns.ru/smg/be/fn-p90-e.html


Resulting weapon appeared in around 1990 as FN P90 personal defense weapon, along with improved 5,7x28 SS190 ammunition, which replaced polymer-cored bullets with heavier dual-core (steel / aluminum) bullets with better penetration against body armor. Several other types of ammunition were developed for this weapon, including tracer, subsonic ball and soft-core training ball.

In around 1995 FN supplemented the P90 with pistol, firing the same 5,7x28 ammunition, designated as FN Five-seveN. Recently, FN also introduced a civilian version of P90, designated as PS90 carbine. This is a self-loading weapon with longer barrel (408 mm / 16").

FN P90 personal defense weapon is blowback operated, selective-fired weapon which fires from closed bolt. The firing is controlled by a removable trigger unit with conventional hammer. A manual safety is located directly below the trigger. Magazine lies at the top of the weapon, feeding from front-to-back, with spiral ramp built into the "rear" part of the magazine. Spent cartridges are ejected straight down through the chute, which exits just behind the pistol grip. The standard sighting equipment includes a non-magnifying collimating sight with "ring and dot" illuminated aiming reticule. Back-up open sights are provided at either side of the primary collimating sight. The so-called P90 USG version is provided with two additional Picatinny rails at either side of the collimating sight base; FN also offers a version with no standard sighting equipment; user has to make its own choice of day and/or night sights and additional equipment, which can be installed on three Picatinny rails - top, left and right. This version is designated as P90 TR (triple rail). The front part of the forward handgrip on P90 is shaped as hand protector, and it can contain integral laser aiming module, which sends either visible or IR laser beam to mark the intended target. For special missions P90 can be fitted with a special silencer, which is used in conjunction with special subsonic ammunition.
The Keeper
GM, 79 posts
The Gamekeeper
You are my Residents.
Mon 23 Dec 2013
at 13:08
  • msg #40

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

I have started to work on what you can call a "Combat Tracker". The GM of another game where I'm playing uses this and it's really useful in my opinion.

It tracks all the useful numbers from your character sheets and when you will be in fight, all your opponents stats will be added here too. You will be then sorted by initiative so it will help you to know when it's your turn to play.
With the tracked stats, you can easily know who you can fight and what's the odd of success when trying to attack a target.

In the folder, you can find one sheet for the three first SG-X team but only SG-X1 is completed at the moment of this post.
If you think that I should add more informations in the sheets, tell me which one and I will add them.

You can access the document here : https://docs.google.com/spread...;usp=drive_web#gid=1
Vasandra Tourmaline
player, 54 posts
Mon 23 Dec 2013
at 20:12
  • msg #41

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

Something looks odd about the saves listed on that tracker, you may want to make sure all of them are being calculated using the D20 rules base as some look like they may be closer to the SAGA or 4th edition method, and the two are not particularly compatible.
Sarah Morgan
player, 92 posts
Tue 24 Dec 2013
at 09:48
  • msg #42

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

Have a Merry Christmas folks!  *hugs all round*

I'll probably be slow until the new year too, but thanks for the beginnings of what looks to be a very interesting game!

Happy Holidays!
xox
The Keeper
GM, 80 posts
The Gamekeeper
You are my Residents.
Tue 24 Dec 2013
at 10:19
  • msg #43

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

Don't worry about that. It appears like almost everyone will be busy. The hardest thing is that some of you are trapped on another world, far from their home.

And don't expect a gift sent by the SGC through the Stargate !
Travis Fox
player, 69 posts
Tue 24 Dec 2013
at 10:42
  • msg #44

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

The Keeper:
Don't worry about that. It appears like almost everyone will be busy. The hardest thing is that some of you are trapped on another world, far from their home.

And don't expect a gift sent by the SGC through the Stargate !

Merry Yule people
And whom ever or what ever you believe have a great time
Hilda
player, 134 posts
It ain't over till the
fat lady sings.
Tue 24 Dec 2013
at 11:05
  • msg #45

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

May Odin the Allfather ride across the sky on his eight-legged horse Sleipnir and grant you all great treasures!
Randall Thorne
player, 40 posts
Tue 24 Dec 2013
at 16:51
  • msg #46

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

Merry Christmas, Boas Festas, Feliz Navidad, Buon Natale.
Michael Galamore
player, 49 posts
Captain Galamore
SG-X2 Leader
Tue 24 Dec 2013
at 17:17
  • msg #47

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

Et Joyeux Noël ! :D
Rajip Mojdar
player, 7 posts
Tue 24 Dec 2013
at 22:18
  • msg #48

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

Have a wonderful time these days, people!
Forseti
player, 23 posts
Asgard
Scientist
Tue 24 Dec 2013
at 23:58
  • msg #49

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

Yes, indeed! Merry Christmas!
Hilda
player, 136 posts
It ain't over till the
fat lady sings.
Wed 25 Dec 2013
at 09:17
  • msg #50

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

Happy holidays!
Sannis Vektor
player, 2 posts
Wed 6 Jan 2016
at 16:32
  • msg #51

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

can anyone explain the difference between the EOD bundle and the Demolitions bundle? one would think they would be very similar...
StarMaster
GM, 619 posts
Storyteller
License to Tamper
Wed 6 Jan 2016
at 18:46
  • msg #52

Re: OOC: Rules Wrangling

The Demolitions Bundle is for blowing things up! It has explosives and detonators.

The EOD Bundle is for keeping things from blowing up. It has a bomb sniffer and a bomb squad suit.
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