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Politics & Allegiance.

Posted by The WatcherFor group 0
The Watcher
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Thu 5 Oct 2017
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Politics & Allegiance

I'm not saying this is true as the GM. But this is a chart of the various inter-organizational alliances the PCs would likely have drawn based on their interactions and knowledge thus far.

Note: These are all relative. Hostile doesn't mean "actively at war with", nor does allied mean "would make tremendous sacrifices on behalf of". Not necessarily, anyway.

quote:
Potential Allegiances

Alliance of Sol (AoS)
+ Allied with (none)
* Neutral with Amgine, Lith, Roshak
- Hostile with ACE, Braeburn, Faust's IDA Fleet, UN, SAGE, Splinter Cell

Amgine
+ Allied with Splinter Cell, UN (?)
* Neutral with ACE, AoS, Braeburn
- Hostile with Faust's IDA Fleet, SAGE, Roshak, Lith

Ares Consolidated Enterprises (ACE)
+ Allied with (none)
* Neutral with Amgine, Braeburn, Faust's IDA Fleet, UN, Lith, Roshak, SAGE
- Hostile with AoS, Splinter Cell

Braeburn
+ Allied with (none)
* Neutral with Amgine, ACE, AoS, Faust's IDA Fleet, UN, Splinter Cell
- Hostile with Lith, Roshak, SAGE

Faust's IDA Fleet
+ Allied with Lith, Roshak
* Neutral with ACE, UN (?)
- Hostile with Amgine, Braeburn, AoS, SAGE, Splinter Cell

Lith
+ Allied with Faust's IDA Fleet, Roshak
* Neutral with ACE, AoS, SAGE, UN
- Hostile with Amgine, Braeburn, Splinter Cell

Roshak
+ Allied with Lith, IDA
* Neutral with ACE, AoS, SAGE, UN
- Hostile with Amgine, Braeburn, Splinter Cell

SAGE
+ Allied with (none)
* Neutral with ACE, Amgine, AoS, Faust's IDA Fleet, Lith, Roshak, UN
- Hostile with Braeburn, Splinter Cell

Splinter Cell
+ Allied with Amgine
* Neutral with UN
- Hostile with AoS, ACE, Braeburn, Lith, Faust's IDA Fleet, Roshak, SAGE


If this doesn't jive with what you believe the case to be, please post to that effect. I might have put something in the wrong place when making this chart and I'm happy to correct it :)

Additions:

UN
+ Allied with (none)
* Neutral with ACE, Amgine, Braeburn, Lith, Roshak, SAGE, Faust's IDA Fleet
- Hostile with AoS, Splinter Cell (?)
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:59, Thu 05 Oct 2017.
Billy Laser Fist
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Thu 5 Oct 2017
at 18:21
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Politics & Allegiance

the apparently now defunct history of the setting strongly suggested the UN was in Braeburn's back pocket, making them de facto allies. This would reasonably include the IDA as the military arm of the UN.  Does any of that still hold up as common knowledge in the setting?
The Watcher
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Thu 5 Oct 2017
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Politics & Allegiance

In reply to Billy Laser Fist (msg # 2):

Braeburn still wields tremendous influence over the UN, yes. I wouldn't call them "allies", per se, but their interests are intertwined. The IDA's allegiances should mirror the UN's precisely, as they are the UN's fleet. This bit is supremely muddled right now because you don't actually know how close the Splinter Cell or even Faust aligned with the IDA party line.

It is probably worth changing my listed IDA to "Faust's IDA" and adding a separate entry for the UN/IDA proper.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:27, Thu 05 Oct 2017.
Billy Laser Fist
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Thu 5 Oct 2017
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Politics & Allegiance

In reply to The Watcher (msg # 3):

So then is the IDA above more accurately Faust's IDA fleet? yes, that thing you said.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:29, Thu 05 Oct 2017.
The Watcher
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Thu 5 Oct 2017
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Re: Politics & Allegiance

Billy Laser Fist:
In reply to The Watcher (msg # 3):

So then is the IDA above more accurately Faust's IDA fleet?


Yes. The UN itself and its official subsidiaries are 'neutral' with all Sol powers save the AoS, a terrorist group. If they knew about the Splinter Cell, they'd be hostile to it, too. If they knew about the various alien races, their position on them isn't public knowledge.
Fiernas Holm
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Thu 5 Oct 2017
at 18:30
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Politics & Allegiance

What's the Splinter Cell?
Billy Laser Fist
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Thu 5 Oct 2017
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Politics & Allegiance

In reply to Fiernas Holm (msg # 6):

the organization the party was working for up until shortly after you joined, when we first encountered Faust's fleet.  the party was told that they were part of the IDA and operated under that assumption for most of the game up to that point.
Nightmare
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Thu 5 Oct 2017
at 18:42
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Politics & Allegiance

In reply to Billy Laser Fist (msg # 7):

*raises hand*  I still don't know that yet. 
Billy Laser Fist
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Thu 5 Oct 2017
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Politics & Allegiance

In reply to Nightmare (msg # 8):

But you suspected it long before anyone else, so shush.
Fiernas Holm
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Thu 5 Oct 2017
at 19:05
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Politics & Allegiance

So there's the actual IDA run by the UN as a peacekeeping force, then there's Faust's IDA that's trying to ally with aliens, and then there's your Splinter Cell IDA that's trying to... what?
Billy Laser Fist
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Thu 5 Oct 2017
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Politics & Allegiance

In reply to Fiernas Holm (msg # 10):

Not be space debris.

They used to be trying to ally with different aliens, and steal from multiple Sol-based megacorps, far as we've determined.
The Watcher
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Thu 5 Oct 2017
at 19:36
  • msg #12

Politics & Allegiance

In reply to Billy Laser Fist (msg # 11):

The Splinter Cell was where the party met Viceroy, an Amgine (though they didn't know that part at the time). In retrospect, the Splinter Cell was probably working in tandem with Amgine goals for the sector whether it knew it was or not.

Captain Blaise had a rather different mission statement that he outlined last time you saw him, though that speech might have only been given to Rebecca.
Nightmare
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Thu 5 Oct 2017
at 19:48
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Politics & Allegiance

In reply to The Watcher (msg # 12):

I think it was just me.  Hence my connection to him.  Also backstory reasons.
Fiernas Holm
player, 311 posts
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Thu 5 Oct 2017
at 20:26
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Politics & Allegiance

When each of these guys were individually commissioned as IDA agents, was it with the Splinter Cell, or were they legit IDA at one point?
Nightmare
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Thu 5 Oct 2017
at 20:32
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Politics & Allegiance

In reply to Fiernas Holm (msg # 14):

So far as we know, its splinter cell the whole way, but given Blaise's Maverick status its hard to say.  I hope to find him, hence my desire to go to the mastodon.
Billy Laser Fist
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Thu 5 Oct 2017
at 20:35
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Politics & Allegiance

In reply to Nightmare (msg # 15):

Muse, Kayla, and Billy were explicitly commissioned under the Splinter cell.  Additionally Billy has an IDA contract for weapons development that was signed off by Viceroy, but did seem legitimate upon inspection.
The Watcher
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Thu 5 Oct 2017
at 20:38
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Politics & Allegiance

Billy's right about those folks, but I can fill in the rest:

Rebecca, Xander, Battalion, and Flux 1.0 all believed they were working with the actual IDA when they were recruited. Rebecca was on loan from Braeburn at the time, and Flux 1.0 was still technically employed by ACE.

The Rebecca, Xander, and Battalion later re-signed on with Splinter Cell, though they thought it was more of a secret block-ops version of the IDA at the time. Flux 1.0 was unable to do that since he's been in a medical coma since Chapter 2 (IIRC).

Honestly you still can't be entirely sure that the Splinter Cell wasn't an off-the-books black ops wing of the IDA...or that nobody's left who knew about it ;)
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:52, Thu 05 Oct 2017.
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