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Traveller's Aid Society (Q&A/OOC)

Posted by StarMasterFor group 0
Darrel Cromwell
player, 402 posts
Noble (Count)
Retired actor
Wed 16 Dec 2015
at 16:00
  • msg #950

Aftermath

A couple of quick questions.

You mentioned a -10 DM to crack the security program, is that based on Darrel's abilities (or lack of ) or the TL/Level of the security program itself? A level 3 security program, IMO, that's a serious program.

A random security program that doesn't allow a backdoor to stop it. I understand the reasoning behind that, so the password couldn't be tortured/intimidated out of someone, but, is that considered normal on a commercial ship?

Not trying to read to much into it, it might just be a holdover from when the SDB was in military service, or it might be something more.
StarMaster
GM, 599 posts
Wed 16 Dec 2015
at 19:03
  • msg #951

Aftermath

The -10 isn't about the tech level, it's about the sophistication of the program.


A program with a backdoor is only functional if the user doesn't know that there's a backdoor or what the password is. On a commercial computer, someone else on the ship (usually chosen at random) is given the password. On a private ship, all bets are off. A 'double redundancy' system is often used--the person who thinks they've got the password discovers it doesn't work.

It's probable that the captain didn't write the program, nor did any other crew member.
Darrel Cromwell
player, 404 posts
Noble (Count)
Retired actor
Wed 16 Dec 2015
at 19:43
  • msg #952

Aftermath

I should have worded that better....

A security-3 rated program is -6DM, so I am assuming that is what is running and the other - DMs are other issues...but, my point being (at least to the other players) doesn't a security-3 rated program seem military grade, and not something you would normally see on an old "decommissioned" SDB?

I shouldn't have used the word "backdoor" initally, what I basically meant, it's strange that the captain of the ship doesn't have the password.

But maybe he does and I'm jumping the gun....
StarMaster
GM, 602 posts
Wed 16 Dec 2015
at 22:07
  • msg #953

Aftermath

While military systems typically are Security-3, they aren't the only ones that use that level. In this case, the program is probably running at a Security-5 level or equivalent.
Vonon Ronkunu
player, 195 posts
Vargr and Spacer
ex-Patrol Commander
Thu 17 Dec 2015
at 02:16
  • msg #954

Aftermath

In reply to StarMaster (msg # 953):

And that fact, in itself, should make us say "Hmmm..."
Kaengarr Ruzokh
player, 181 posts
Gvegh Vargr
Thu 17 Dec 2015
at 11:40
  • msg #955

Aftermath

  I'm guessing that the 'atmosphere held in place' bit is also tech beyond normal?

  ... and the "nearing the 1000 post limit" nag line is showing up. Time for OOC +1.
Darrel Cromwell
player, 405 posts
Noble (Count)
Retired actor
Thu 17 Dec 2015
at 15:38
  • msg #956

Aftermath

quote:
unusual thing. On the lower deck, three of the cargo bay doors were open, yet there was still atmosphere on the deck.


As far as I recall, the TL of "force fields" for atmosphere is something like 16?
quote:
In this case, the program is probably running at a Security-5 level or equivalent.

That would be around TL14+?

And people call me paranoid....
Kaengarr Ruzokh
player, 184 posts
Gvegh Vargr
Thu 17 Dec 2015
at 16:53
  • msg #957

Aftermath

  All this stuff must be outside the core book, which means it's not just the character who's clueless in my case. :P
Pablo Esteban Ryzov
player, 103 posts
End 8, Str 6, Dex 2/9
Gun for hire
Thu 17 Dec 2015
at 18:42
  • msg #958

Aftermath

I actually am enjoying the surprises, though my inner old grumpy grognard whines at times. In our own situation, the deployment of such high tech stuff makes me wonder who you lot, and now by extension poor Pablo, have fallen in with.
Darrel Cromwell
player, 406 posts
Noble (Count)
Retired actor
Thu 17 Dec 2015
at 18:55
  • msg #959

Aftermath

Mahahahaha....if only you knew....;-)

My hats off to the GM, I've also been constantly surprised.
Darrel Cromwell
player, 407 posts
Noble (Count)
Retired actor
Thu 17 Dec 2015
at 19:02
  • msg #960

Aftermath

Quick note, we seem to have forgotten one NPC, Mr. Tolman...did he come on our little trip?
Kheaiftouaw
player, 331 posts
Thu 17 Dec 2015
at 19:12
  • msg #961

Aftermath

Isn't the scout which brought us here still in the area? Maybe a status report is in order.
Kaengarr Ruzokh
player, 185 posts
Gvegh Vargr
Thu 17 Dec 2015
at 19:36
  • msg #962

Aftermath

  Darrel: I think that anyone who isn't still a PC has been quietly set aside. We're already a big group as it is!
Darrel Cromwell
player, 408 posts
Noble (Count)
Retired actor
Thu 17 Dec 2015
at 20:52
  • msg #963

Aftermath

In reply to Kaengarr Ruzokh (msg # 962):

Yea, I see your point, but...he is a semi-employee, I have spent a considerable amount of money, and more importantly, through him I've developed some contacts that might prove useful later.

I think you've probably noticed, I'm working on establishing a "network", people and institutions that can provide benefits/abilities that we ourselves can't.

Anyways, no worries... ;-)
Vonon Ronkunu
player, 197 posts
Vargr and Spacer
ex-Patrol Commander
Fri 18 Dec 2015
at 03:01
  • msg #964

Aftermath

In reply to Darrel Cromwell (msg # 963):

Over the years, in various places, I have encountered a term which may apply towards all the surprise security and Tech we're encountering....IMTU.

It means "In My Traveller Universe". Star*Master may be throwing a few of his own IMTU twists at us.  And I like it ^_^
Pablo Esteban Ryzov
player, 104 posts
End 8, Str 6, Dex 2/9
Gun for hire
Fri 18 Dec 2015
at 03:14
  • msg #965

Aftermath

Hey, if Darrel is looking for ex-military personnel, Pablo could probably use somebody to point him at the correct people to shoot. Or not shoot, as the case may be.  He can do some other things too, but nothing others in the group can't match or better.

Also, given this group's tendency towards humanitarianism and non-murder, Pablo *will* be buying a snub pistol and/or an accelerator rifle at the earliest opportunity, and laying in supplies of tranq rounds and gas grenades.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:23, Fri 18 Dec 2015.
Kheaiftouaw
player, 333 posts
Fri 18 Dec 2015
at 19:24
  • msg #966

Aftermath

Well I at least tend more towards aslanarianism.
Kaengarr Ruzokh
player, 188 posts
Gvegh Vargr
Fri 18 Dec 2015
at 19:59
  • msg #967

Aftermath

  ...and that means?
Kaengarr Ruzokh
player, 190 posts
Gvegh Vargr
Sat 19 Dec 2015
at 01:37
  • msg #968

Aftermath

  Pablo, that last post of yours - are you writing that to just the four of you (Walter, Sharik, Pablo, Vonon) or are you figuring it happens afterward when we're all back from the Long Shot (with or without the hijackers)?
Pablo Esteban Ryzov
player, 107 posts
End 8, Str 6, Dex 2/9
Gun for hire
Sat 19 Dec 2015
at 02:25
  • msg #969

Aftermath

In reply to Kaengarr Ruzokh (msg # 968):

In my mind, I was thinking aboard the launch, so yeah, those four would be physically on hand, but Pablo could be on the squad channel too, for convenient and equal opportunities to cut him off at the knees.
Kaengarr Ruzokh
player, 191 posts
Gvegh Vargr
Sat 19 Dec 2015
at 13:53
  • msg #970

Aftermath

  StarMaster, is the Rock Dancer operational (we can fly it) or is it locked down/locked out somehow too?
StarMaster
GM, 606 posts
Sat 19 Dec 2015
at 21:26
  • msg #971

Aftermath

The Rock Dancer has a password to activate, but you can get that from any of the hijackers as they all have pilot skill and know the password.
Kaengarr Ruzokh
player, 192 posts
Gvegh Vargr
Sun 20 Dec 2015
at 00:33
  • msg #972

Aftermath

  Okay. Edited my last IC post with the new plan!
Kaengarr Ruzokh
player, 194 posts
Gvegh Vargr
Sun 20 Dec 2015
at 02:01
  • msg #973

Aftermath

  And the next question would be: about how long will it take to get back to Grendal with these three ships (assuming that the launch can piggyback again)?
StarMaster
GM, 607 posts
Mon 21 Dec 2015
at 17:53
  • msg #974

Aftermath

For the sake of future 'issues', I think it's safe to assume that whenever someone speaks, if he doesn't actually say it's addressed to someone specific or he/she doesn't specify a location, then whatever is said is either heard by everyone (via comms if necessary) or relayed to them.

In other words, if the speaking character isn't trying to keep it a secret, then anyone who needs to hear it... hears it.
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