Very few magical weapons were presented in the module - Rowyn had one, but she got away.

Basically the modules provide money, and then you go and buy your own magical weapons. That's the idea as long as you don't spend all your money raising your colleagues :P

Oops.

:D :D All part of the game bro!

Logan is one expensive friend. I could of had a palace full of women by now.

Expected WBL for level 4 characters is 6000 gp. Raise dead cost 5k, spread over 5 players means we each should have had ~5000 gp to play with. A +1 weapon is almost half of that (2300+ gp), which is a lot for just a weapon. Armor, shield, misc. etc all cost a lot too. For Alohan, there's an extra cost for amulet of mighty fists b/c ... reasons?

Generally, I'd expect primarily martial (non-unarmed) characters to have +1 weapons, which Kassius and Logan both do. I wouldn't expect other characters who either only sort of melee (Angati), or have to pay extra (Alohan) to have magical weapons until level 5-6.

On a related note:

I don't think that's true. I believe shields need to be enhanced separately as weapons and as shields. In fact, I think there's a feat that allows one to use the shield bonus as the weapon bonus.

Also, you can't bash with bucklers, only with light or heavy shields. It's the only reason to have a light shield over a buckler.

Kassius's explanation of expected WBL is one of the many reasons I don't like Pathfinder. Too much work attempting to balance everything. Magic weapons should be a gift- should be rare- not something you HAVE to have in order to be relevant against monsters CR5+. 5e kind of addresses the problem but I have sworn off all GMing and playing besides this particular game -I dont really have any experience with it like I do Pathfinder. Plus, there is a lack of variety that hasnt been quite addressed.

It could be easily overcome by taking the right spells. I have access to magic weapon. It isn't memorized though. 750 gp for a wand of it might not be a bad idea at some point.

In reply to Alohan Nuari (msg # 939):

I have been trying out DnD5e as you know... and while its balanced, much more so than pathfinder. You walk narrow paths with regards to character development... and what is worse, combat is over simplified, not so much to do or think about.

@Kassius:
If you are certain about what you said, then I'd edit my action... or maybe just leave it at the fail it was. I thought buckler was just another kind of light shield... but, I don't think a feat is needed in order to bash, you only need proficiency. What you get with improved shield bash is that you can still add your shield bonus to AC http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/...-bash-combat---final (which I had neglected to do anyway, but I had not known until now, running actions from rules memorised is sometimes not good it seems.).

To be fair Ron, that approach to magic items is only correct in a low-magic campaign and we are definitely not playing one of those. Both Mystara and the STAP are high-magic campaigns where magical items are bought and sold the same way as commodities like sugar, coffee and galley slaves.



Are you only playing in this game now? Wow. If you are confining yourself to one game then I am honoured and extremely happy that you have selected mine. (Happy to have all of you playing of course!)

Beni, you can’t shield bash with a buckler but no worries about retracting the action, it was a miss anyway :/

Celene, why don’t we just make the melee types buy some magic weapons? On that note, why doesn’t Alohan just borrow Logan’s magical rapier for the rest of the module? If you go to the loot thread I have listed Logan’s items and you are welcome to borrow what you want, just let me know.

Yeah sure, another thing to dangle from Alohan's loin cloth... :)

or... maybe he is contemplating the option of a piercing there instead of using a scabbard ?.

Well that would be very unorthodox... But I will allow it.

Tough week at work guys... general meeting of shareholders day after tomorrow with people coming. Sorry for low input.

Wow an action for that ? seems downright shitty

It's pretty good because it stacks with lots of other bonuses.

If you have the fates favored trait it gets even better with another +1 on top of it.

+2 to hit and damage for a level one cleric for ten rounds isn't too bad.

Out on the town tomorrow so no post!

Divine favor is awesome for combat oriented divine casters. As Celene said, it stacks with everything (and is one of the reasons that Fate's Favored is by far the best trait in the game. It would be a solid choice as a full feat, although that's a separate issue).
At low levels, it's nice as a pre-combat buff when you know you're about to get ambushed, or in the first round of what you expect to be a tough fight. It gets really good at higher levels, particularly if you have some way of quickening it.
Angati seems like she's primarily a caster who does some melee, so it's not particularly suited to her strengths, but it's still a nice buff on occasion.

I am so lacking with regards to knowing feats traits and detailed rulings :P

Thanks for the info though, I'll keep it in mind.

@Alohan @GM: if aloha wants and Angati sees him, maybe he can get a Misfortune to reroll that save.

I feel the same way Beni. I consider myself very lucky to have such experienced and committed players in this game.

You are already mowing us, no need to bicker about it :P

I know you like it though... so I understand.

As for Alohan's indignity... well.. think about throwing in a beautiful lady that finds him there in hiding... If no one see's him.. its just half indignity... and the beasts are pretty scary anyways :)
This message was last edited by the player at 06:51, Thu 09 June 2016.

Fixed that for you.

Heh heh. Snigger.

In reply to Celene (msg # 954):

LoL   that must be my subconscious mind playing there :)

Looks like Ron wants to save that MF roll. It is only being frightened for a couple of rounds.

See you in the new OOC thread.