OK, so for this next briefing the first post I want is all of your appearance, garb, and what you are thinking about the Empire or the Jedi in your head.

Also we're going to try to hang onto the idea of flipping dark side points to light side points by achieving predictions. Don't make any predictions yet, but start thinking about them.

Oh, right: Ranks!

Military Ranks:
If you have at least 2 points in any skill, you have been promoted to Specialist.

If you have at least 1 rank in Discipline and 1 in Resilience, you are promoted to Seargent.
If you also have 1 rank in Leadership, you are promoted to Staff Seargent.

If you have at least 2 ranks in Leadership, you are promoted to Lieutenant.

If you have at least 2 ranks in Space Piloting, you are promoted to Flight Officer.
if you also have 1 in Leadership, you are promoted to Flight Lieutenant.
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Predictions?  Like what we think is going to happen in the future of the scene?  Hmm.

Looks like I don't quality for any of those ranks, though I don't know what they are really for.

And is that new thread up for the new people as well?  We're just a part of Alpha Team without being introduced to the others that are already in it?

Yes. The introduction to the team will be made later.

Understood.  Then I'll go ahead and write my post.

My apologies as a player, Forim.  Jurell isn't that most...reverent of characters.  ^^;

He's rough around the edges.  Kind of like Han in a way.

In reply to The Force (msg # 1):

[Private to GM: No points for Astrogation?  :)]

Computers R2, looks like that's it for now.

Ember Base: Fire Training; is that still a go or has it been scrapped?

Nice interplay Forim and Jurell ;)

I got R2 in ranged light and heavy, but I'm a fresh recruit. Sniper?...

In reply to 'Kraken' (msg # 6):

as a player no worries! Forim turns out Forim is a sycophant which can be annoying inn its own way lol

Oooh, looks like I'm a special flight officer.  Maybe even a very special flight officer.  Now where'd I put my helmet?

Am I the only person without a rank?  Not like that matters to Jurell as a character since he's more like hired muscle, but I find it kind of funny.

Oh wait!  I just realized he has two points in Mechanics!  That makes him a Specialist.  Though, it's pretty hilarious that his specialization is in mechanics when that's pretty much the furthest thing from what he does regularly.  xD

Lol.

And gere i am with three ranks in two skills lol

That does make sense for you in your role as a pilot.  I considered doing something similar and investing a good amount of points into combat skills, but I thought it would be more worthwhile for the character to invest in some extra talents to reflect his style of combat and varied his skills a bit to make him more useful in a many other situations.  I knew we were getting two other combat characters and didn't want to overdo the combat.  Group dynamic and all.  ^_^

That's because the rest of us can't start with more than two ranks in a skill at character creation.  Okay, I could, but I didn't need a third rank in Piloting - Space just to prove I could have it.

Out of curiosity, did any of the new guys take any ranks in ship board skills (gunnery, sensors, etc)?

I can assist on mechanics on the ship.

Hang on does true aim count with ship weapons? If so I can help there!

Damn it, Jim, I'm a martial artist, not a midshipman!  So, no.  I don't have anything but my multiple skill points in Mechanics.

lets you make a free aim maneouver per round.  You can aim a ships weapon.  So yea, it applies to gunnery.

Oh, Forim.  This is going to be the beginning of a beautiful relationship.  xD

Prediction: Forim and Jurell will not get along until they are stacked up together in a situation against overwhelming odds cut off from the rest of the team.  LOL

hahaha.  probably.  I think we will get to a respect for each others skills, but wont ever get to like each other.

Awe Forim.  I'd have posted a reply telling you about what happened but the thread is now closed.

You can PM it to me :)

Oh, before I forget.  Any chance I could borrow one of those blasters nobody is using from the team storage?  I've got the skill, but I spent my credits on weaponry for my primary method of combat.  I just figure that in case we want to all hide behind storage crates or something during a mission, I can still be of some good to the team with a blaster instead of charging forward.

I'm sure it can be arranged :-)

Oh and I need that glitterstim, for er...  some...      stuff...  ;)

You two are kind of writing me into a corner here. There's not much I can do at this point besides taking the door with that much hostility.

I am not trying to write you into a corner.  Heck, I have not even been introduce to you, I don't even know your name.  So far you are a stranger to Alpha Team that has 1) disrespected the princess and 2) complained about the first and only mission you were given.  You are not giving us much to work with!

Going forward, it depends on what you want.

Do you want to be the gruff guy who will not work with a team?  Or do you want to be willing to take a conciliatory nod and meet us halfway?

From what we can see so far, your standoffish / lone wolf mentality is not going far with this team!

Even Han Solo took quite a bit of gruff for his standoffishness from Luke and the Princess.  However he blustered through it to prove everyone wrong about him.  And the reward.

That's part of the reason I didn't really agree with being thrown into the team without an introduction thread with the GM said was going to come after the fact.  It really doesn't help gel things together.

Also, I have to point out that the complaint wasn't with the mission.  It was pointing out the intelligence problem.  Treating him like an idiot probably wasn't going to help.  And I'm a little confused as to what is expected as an attitude from a person who literally came up alone?  Though, I suppose since I usually play a Face, I'm not sure what I expected.

Well, we'll see what happens, I suppose.  I can only write what the character would do in a given situation.  Cards fall as they may.

Actually this is kind of my plan. If you're going to have a disagreement about the mission, the briefing is the perfect time to raise the concerns. Better than on the flight there, or just after hitting the ground. And don't be worried about the Princess, she can take it.

The 'introduction' is right after this.

It's looking more and more like there won't be an introduction at this rate.  xD

I do agree with you - it is always good to at least tell the PCs they are going to have additions to their team before putting them into a briefing with the Princess :(  Even if it is "wait here for 20 minutes"

The Princess did seem to say that our mission was more of an intelligence gathering mission, which would obviously not have much intelligence for.  We are that team.

I am sorry for my part in this.  As you said, Play the character and let the cards fall.  As a player, I did not want to cause a rift so early in the relationship!

Neither did I.  Though, I do think it was a bit weird to put die hards in with the guy who was previously only in it for survival without much glue and expect things to turn out ok.

Well, here's hoping for a little Deus Ex Machina to keep things together, or I'm afraid I'm already written out of this story before it's even begun.
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In reply to Jurell Delgar (msg # 32):

I think my character (Veteran of the Clone Wars) could give yours a chewing out and get you to stay. Not sure how he would respond to it, though. Maybe accuse him of cowardice? I don't know, what do you think would motivate him to stay?

Sorry, been busy with real life and Spring Break with the family.
Been trying to catch up on my wife's Honey Due list.
I'll add a post to the thread.

If the chewing out that was going on earlier didn't work, more would probably just drive him further away.  Sorry, Zeic.  He's basically a Bounty Hunter in it because he's got a grudge against the Empire.  He was recruited because he's good at what he does, and has survived a run in against a Moff alone.  I think the only thing that would make him stay is someone actually acknowledging points and working together to fix things.  So far, people have been quick to dismiss any input.  In his mind, he has extrapolated that sort of mindset in ranking officers to the actual mission itself.  If they're quick to dismiss in the mission debriefing, they will be quick to dismiss during an actual mission which will endanger lives.

It was basically a dry run, and so far it seems that Caddy and Forim have failed in his eyes.

Maybe that will help, Zeic.  I don't know.

Although to defend the GM, he had no idea it was going to explode.

Maybe the princess can elaborate that rhe mission is an intel mission.  We are the guys getting intel.  There is never Intel fpr those guys.

Side Note as a Player:

The only way to get your character back into the room is to have our characters back down and concede to your points?

Are you willing to concede any of our points?

I think our two points are

1. Show respect to leadership
2. Agree that there is no intel, and that stage one of hte mission should be intel gathering

I think your points are

1. accept you who you are, respect abilities not rank
2. the mission sucks because we have no Intel, so it should be scrapped.

Am I off base?

Sorry for the long silence. Not upset, just had some long parties I had previously committed to. I'll address this in a few minutes before I head to bed.

Whew.  Ok.  Since it seems that I've got messages from multiple parties to respond to as well, I'll be responding to each person in the medium they have chosen to contact me unless everyone involved wants me to open the floor to it in the OOC itself.  It seems Jurell has a bit of a continuity problem at the moment considering that he was taken into custody in a private line after he left before Caddy's post, so I'm not sure if he's in custody or in the room still at this point.  That is something that will have to be decided.

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I'll respond to you here, Forim.

No, conceding his points is not the only way to get the character in the room.

1. Showing respect to leadership doesn't seem to be instrumental in a party in the Star Wars universe, nor does it make a whole lot of sense in Jurell's case.  He doesn't know much about anyone here.  We haven't really done anything as yet, and that respect will likely be gradual.  He's not a soldier at this point.  Think of it like the original trilogy: Han wasn't originally super into following things right off the bat.  As they worked with each other, his character changed until he came back to help even when he wasn't originally going to.

2. That there is no intel is precisely what he is saying.  Princess Leia advertised the mission as a "strike" mission.  Jurell was pointing out that for it to actually be a strike mission, there should already have been intel gathering done or they will be walking in blind and potentially have major problems.  If Leia wants them to gather intel that is perfectly fine.  But going in to gather intel and strike would probably be better accomplished with two teams.

Second Part

1. I think he is pointing out that people should respect both, not one or the other.  Respecting a person simply because of their rank doesn't make much sense if that person doesn't have expertise in the area.  A good leader defers to subordinates that have relevant knowledge instead of relying on their rank.  That's really his point.

2. Again, not that the mission should be scrapped.  Modified, probably, but not scrapped.  If Leia wants a strike, she should probably either have two teams (one to gather intel and one to perform the strike) or get the intel first and then reassess before going on to strike depending on the circumstances found.  He thinks the latter will be less feasible because having the same team pull double duty is especially risky.


So, yes, kind of off base on a few points there.  He's really not as unreasonable as I think you all may be painting him.  He really only walked out because of Forim's last comment about the door being there and calling him a grunt, basically.  Otherwise, he probably would have stayed put.

Well, With you being arrested, trying to use the OOC medium to find a common ground is almost moot, but I think I will try to continue anyway

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We are making progress!  I read that this mission was intelligence gathering only.  Maybe there would be an item we need to steal, but Leia wants us to get knowledge (intelligence) about the Jedi for luke.


This is her basic introduction.  This says nothing about the mission at all.  I think you agree, because the first thing you say is "so, whats the mission"


Here she tells us three things
1. We got intel about imperial troop movements.  This also hints at a Jedi person, artifact, or similar
2. "I think we should at least find out what it is". This is the part that I understand the mission is pure intel.
3. our travel options.  Not really important to our disagreement.

At this point it seems you see this as a strike mission based on your posts.  This is where our major disagreement starts.  And I think it is because you think this is a "kill" or "strike" mission.


Here you have left the room already, so any extra information from the princess is moot tho this discussion.

However, this does speak to the "lack of intelligence" that you are talking about.  It is not much, but based on the above interpretation of mine that this is an intel gathering mission (which Caddy will change to be a smash and grab mission on the ground when she sees Jedi stuff, and we will probably agree when we see the Empire is planning on destroying it) this extra info just gives us a place to start.  It is nice, but as an intel gathering mission not really needed.

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So, based on your statement Jurell is unwilling to concede either of "our" points, and is not willing to meet us halfway.  I posted that as a player hoping we could find some middle ground.  In any argument the best way out is a compromise.  I was pointing out the two points we are trying to make that if perhaps Jurell could (even temporarily) make a concession to continue the dialog.

With respect to Jurell's point - I think I nailed point 1.  However, contrary to what you are posting here, Jurell does not respect rank at all (Granted, Han barely did and also used the Sweetheart line to degrade the woman he was traveling with.  Lucas is a known sexist which puts that line in the movies.)  So, as long as you are trying to both disrespect the Lieutenant in the room, and degrade he role further because she is a woman on purpose you nailed it.  If you are doing some of these by accident by quoting Star Wars, no problem.  Just wanted to point out that "Sweetheart" inflamed Leia every time that Han used it.  Don't get upset when someone lashes back at you when you insult the leadership directly.

That ties directly into Forim's grunt comment.  You insulted my leader directly.  I insulted you back directly.  Then you left the room.

I know you modeled yourself from Han, and Han did not really respect female leadership at all.  He did have very respectful conversations with the few scenes he had with male leadership.  Han got insulted a lot by said female (that half-witted scruffy-looking nerf herder) but he stayed around because (1, he didnt care he was insulted back or 2, to prove to everyone around him that he was the best: [I couldn't let you get all the glory and reward]).

The second point make sense with the above - you think it is a strike mission.  If you can point out to me why you think this is a strike mission that might help me understand some of your points.

I don't disagree that a intel + strike mission would be _better_ with two teams.  Heck, it would be better with four teams.  Two independant teams gather intel, then a strike team, and a backup strike team incase of curve balls.  That gets us better intel from two overlapping perspectives, and another team in reserve to help the first team if it gets into trouble.

But we are the pennyless rebellion.  Teams often do Intel + Strike on their own.  That is the other part of Forim's point.  When you get assigned a mission, you accept it or you dont.  That is what the GM is getting at with this briefing I think.  Get our grievances out now at the start of the mission so that on the mission we are a coherient party.

Honestly, this post is a bit too massive for me to respond to well.  Sitting on my laptop, I don't have the two monitors I would usually use to respond to each point individually, so I will try to respond to the points that stand out the most.  If there's anything you really want a respond to that I haven't responded to, let me know.  But, honestly, this much is a bit too much for me with the limited time I have to post and limited ability to read and respond to each point.  I'm already mashing alt-tab like crazy as it is!  xD

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Disagreed.  I think you misunderstood the context of why he said what he said.  She started off by saying:


Emphasis mine.  So, in Jurell's mind, she has framed this mission to be a strike mission.  He is, in essence, asking for the details of what has been framed as a strike mission that requires pre-done intelligence in order to assure the least casualties.  So, the problem started actually before you may think it did.  I need to point out that I personally do not see this particular mission any which way.  No initial plan survives first contact in the first place.  All things considered, Jurell is of the opinion that even if they try to go in to "find out what's going on," it's still going to devolve quickly.  What they really needed was relevant information on the base in order to plan out where not to be and where not to go if the mission was going to be successful.  That's the base groundwork that is usually given before a mission like this (ref: original trilogy and Star Wars Rebels).


Honestly, Forim, if I wasn't willing to work for compromise as a player, I would not be taking the time to respond to this large OOC post and two PM threads at this point.  I felt it was important to reframe the impressions you had because I thought they led to important incorrect assumptions.


There's lashing out and there is steamrolling.  Honestly, as I have told Caddy in another PM, this character was designed specifically as a banter counterpoint to her character.  So, yes, the Sweetheart comment was designed especially to evoke that.  I'm not upset about that.  And the comment has nothing to do with disrespect specifically to female characters.  If Caddy was a man, Jurell probably would have done something equally as coarse.  So, still quite a bit off base, in my opinion.  Currently, he has little reason to respect rank given the dialogue between the other ranking officers in the team (Caddy and Forim specifically).

I feel like at this point I need to make another point.  Jurell is by nature a questioning character.  Characters in the Star Wars universe often start out that way by questioning the Rebellion and how it operates.  I can reference Han, sure, but I also want to point out that Ezra and Kanan started out exactly the same way.  They were a part of operations but questioned whether or not things were a good idea.  What it seems to me as a player is that you are expecting "rank and file" characters as part of the Rebellion and this team.  You're interpreting putting his feet up at a table as disrespecting authority, but I feel like I should point out that Kanan and Ezra both straight up questioned the leader of Rebellion force several times in Star Wars Rebels alone.

I also feel like I need to counterpoint what you are saying about why he left because it seems you have the impression that he is butthurt or something.  Jurell is not.  He just sees little point in continuing on when it seems that the ranking officers (again, Forim and Caddy) are willing to go straight into the lion's den on what appears to be a suicidal mission no questions asked.


Disagreed again on this point.  Whether or not the Rebellion is penniless is a bit immaterial to what I'm talking about.  Most of the missions detailed in Rebels (not to mention the famous Bothans that got intelligence on the Death Star), all have at least some idea of the lay of the land.  Maybe not precise troop numbers or the like (which I am in no way expecting), but they have an idea of what's on the ground before they go search for a target.  We've so far gotten none of that.  Where are the bases located in comparison to the target?  Do we have ideas of patrol routes?  Those are pretty basic questions that have not been answered, which is more Jurell's point there.  I think judging from the response from Caddy, at least, that her character thinks that Jurell wants all the details (the milk run comment), which is incorrect.

I find most OOC comments like this usually hurt the game rather than help as you can't use this information as character knowledge and most players get offended at some point.
So, I will read the content but won't be adding to it.
I'd rather hash this out in-character.  ;)

I now tend to agree with you Kraken.  My hope in starting this was that we could use OOC knowledge to help our character act IC in a way that allows a quick resolution to the solution.

For example, if Jurell was willing to apologize for anything, Forim would be happy to hear out his concerns in detail.  I am not saying that is what is going to happen or that apologizing is in Jurell's character.  I am not judging either way.  Sometimes OOC you can give a way for the IC characters to "accidentally" say the right thing.  Sometimes we can use OOC knowledge to metagame a solution before the IC relationship is ruined.

However, as it happens sometimes, some characters are built in such a way that they are inflexible.

At the very least, I see how Jurell sees this as a strike mission now.  I took that statement to be more nebulous in nature, and less a direct bearing on this mission.  Gaining knowledge about the Jedi would strike a blow against the Empire.

That knowledge helps me as a player help Forim the character realize why this guy is so fixated on a strike mission.

I know my post was a beast after I posted it, sorry!

I think I know where you stand, and I think you know where I stand.  I think we know that we disagree with each others position and I can respect that.  We will just have to wait until management lets you out of jail and puts us in a room together again to start hashing it out.

Guys, I'm tired of this. This isn't a forum where we debate political stuff. No more quoting each other and point counterpoint.

Jurell, if you want to play the game, find a way to get back into the mission. all you have to do is say "I want in" and it's fine.

GM, we're really not upset at each other or anything.  I was literally about to just say that I agree with what Forim just said.  It's not that I do not want to play the game, so I'm not really sure where you are coming from in this aspect.  We've been very amicable about it.

Sorry that took a while longer than I wished.  I got a bit distracted with the new Mass Effect!

I thought it was more pertinent to ask this here because it is a terminology question that I have as a player.


Should I be taking this to mean that I should erase all traces of Alpha Team being on the planet?  Or that I should be rescuing a Rebel team that is already on the planet?  The usage of the phrase "Rebel Team" makes the mission a little ambiguous to me as a player.

This is the first Rebel mission to the planet. They want it to be a secret that there are any Rebels involved in this mission.

Man i really read that wrong.

I thought we were supposed to plant the odea of a cell where there was none!

It's ok Force.  We're on the same wavelength ;-)

I am ready for mission start / the introduction of our fellow team mates.

Wow.... tried to get a post in early... just not happening with everyone posting :-)   I applaud the passion!  Hopefully the flow of posts isn't too disconcerting.

Are we really rolling PC to PC social checks at this point?  This really doesn't seem like the best way to handle things.  If it's really going to be one of those kinds of games, I think I'll remove myself from the game.  I have been in far too many games in the past where such things were horribly abused.
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I'm also rather confused by what Caddy is saying?  Jurell has straight up said that he doesn't do suicide runs, but he will look out for other members of the team.  So, why is she pseudo-threatening him?  I don't understand.  His statement amounts to "I don't do suicide runs, but I'll do whatever else."  So, people are upset that he doesn't do those?  Yeesh.  Tough crowd.

I'm just showing that my words are convincing.   It's all too easy to ignore peoples words and call their bluff because of OOC knowledge.

I don't really know what sort of OOC knowledge you are talking about.  While you are here would you mind explaining your IC post to me to alleviate the confusion I mentioned?  It's difficult to write a post in response when I don't understand it.

Hey Caddy, Just curious how you built your dice pool?

Did you upgrade your Deception to 3P recently?  Also, Deception does not really fit for the text you use.  Charm or Leadership fit better in my mind (although I am a newb at social rolls)

Additionally, the Deception is opposed by the targets Discipline, which would be 1D 1C in this case.

Finally, How did you get the boost die?  If it is for rank, the target has made it very clear he holds no respect for that rank.  If it is for the leverage of being on the mission with us, well he has specifically stated that he is willing to walk away.  Perhaps you are getting the boost from somewhere else though.

Just want to make sure if you are doing an opposed check, you are building the dice pool correctly!  No point making a roll to show lots of successes when in reality the roll was much more difficult!  Heck, you might fail showing YOU back down instead of padding the success to force him to back down ;)

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In addition, I agree with Jurell that rolling dice against him forces him to
a) accept what you say blindly - preventing him from being able to role play or
b) initiate a social or combat encounter with the group.

It really backs him into a corner.

PvP dice never turns out well, unless both players agree ahead of time for a contest of skill.

In a more positive note, we have a tonne of great pilots here!  I think it might make a cool adventure to have us in Y-Wings (or some other 2 man ships).  Pilot / Gunner combo for each ship.  We have the pilots!

Should be cool.  Ill make sure I step up my piloting game to stay on top!  Would hate to lose my position of power ;)

Okay, guys: this is going to be a big one. This adventure is going to be like several smaller adventures combined together. It's probably going to go on for awhile. It's going to involve quite a few different elements, so if you're finding one part of it not to your liking, bear with it and soon there will be another.

We have a lot of new players, and probably some of you are going to find this game a rough fit. If you don't want to play, the next week or so is the time to decide. Please don't just ghost out on us.

I have updated the ship's entry in "Rules & Party Resources" to reflect the additional stuff that was added on your request.

@Forim: Ooooh, if only I had known that was a possibility!  Every time I have made someone remotely capable of piloting in this game system before there was already a pilot, so it was a useless skill set because we only had one ship.  I would be super jealous if we got to do something so cool.  I'm totally on board to see it happen, though!

@Force: No worries.  I won't just ghost on you.  I have a feeling I may need to take a vacation in a couple months if things in RL pan out the way they seem to be shaping up to, but I'll let you know about it ahead of time.  I do definitely want to play.

1) What sort of OOC knowledge?  Folk have already done this several times  including referring to elements of my background that are not generally known.

2) Dice pool - I seem to have lost that section of the OOC.  The pool was simply my dice + lightside + boost of the previous success (I had 6 if you recall - with no obvious useful outcome for me).  I didn't actually consider Discipline as I wasn't ordering him and was looking at Streetwise/Cunning to pick out the fact that she is not naturally a 'hard ball' but I should have made this clear (I blame this on it being past midnight when I posted!  Why... because you guys post in streams while I'm not around!)

3) As for PvP - I agree that it isn't ideal in this game system - but at the same time, if my 'free will' to RP is taken away (by someone, for example, RPing an action so radical that it doesn't give me a chance to react to it despite the time framing), then my only recourse is to use dice to make it clear that this isn't simply fluffy 'social' RP.

Anyway, the scene has moved on.  Feel free to roll the dice pool differently if you think that you can get Caddy's mark on this.

Just be aware that the game does have social combat and I'm not particularly interested in combative RP within the team (you wouldn't threaten or be rude to a manager iRL, why do so in game and think you can get away with it?) - so if this is the way any of you want to play, please roll the dice and see what the outcome is so that we can move on with things.
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Using lightside points on players seems a real waste as the Force should be used to defeat the Empire, not influence another player.

As a general rule, in the games I play only lightside are allowed to be used on enemies.

GM, do you allow players to use lightside points against each other?  Seems to be this would be a bad idea.

I've never considered the possibility. I really don't think so. Light Side points are supposed to be shared resource amongst the good guys. If the good guys are using them on one another, then it's like a conflict of interest. So no.

+1 to Kracken, but it is the Players choice.

I am not trying to attack you Caddy - just I would feel bad if a player 1) rolled dice against me, and 2) flipped a destiny to be more effective in PvP.

In the future, when a player flips a light side token, please post it somewhere for all players to see - it is our right to see the token pool changed.  This goes for PvP and PvE

I may be understanding social encounters wrong, as I have never built a social character in this system, but right on page 122 of the rule book (AoR) it says "Deception is opposed by the subject's Discipline".  Its not your choice what it opposes, so you cannot pick his weakest attribute to roll against.

As you called it "social combat".  What you did is no different then me pulling out my blaster and shooting Jurell with a Stun bolt because he wouldn't sit down.

Just as you are pushing your force of will on us as players, we are allowed to buck under the yoke.  My character is very subservient, so you wont get that from me IC ;)

The Force posted a few minutes before you with his thoughts.

IMO, PVP use of light side will soon see only dark side left as players could use lighside points to try to counter another players use of lightside use.  Then when we are in combat with the Empire we will be at a disadvantage.

GM answered my question so I'll drop the discussion.

Ok.  I don't mind.  I was simply trying to make sure the arguments ended and we worked as a team... only for the lot of you to turn on me.   As far as I was concerned, the action of breaking up the team was anti-team and therefore a valid opportunity to use the 'good' force to put things right (which is how I personally view the Light side of the Force).

So, not throwing my toys out of the cot - but at least I know where I stand and I will make every effort to ensure posts are clear and cannot be misinterpreted.

As for Deception vs Discipline.   This is a guideline - the rule book is abundantly clear on this (in general, not this specific ability).  That said, if we are being rules-heavy/lawyery, I can only apologise.   As I said before, I did not feel I was testing his Discipline as I was not asking him to doubt himself or indeed choose a different path... but to believe in certain criminal-style actions - thus Streetwise being the more appropriate stat.

I just know nothing about social encounters :P

I assumed it was like in combat: Ranged targets ranged defense, melee targets melee defense.  Doesnt matter if you have the blaster pushed against his head - it targets ranged defense.

Can you target any stat?  Is there any limits?

Deception seemed off because you were not trying to lie to him - deception only comes up if you are trying to obstruct the truth in some way, right?

Teach me :P

Have a look at my sheet.  If Deception wasn't appropriate, I roll the same dice for Leadership... or indeed for Charm... or indeed for Negotiation.  This is my schtick.

Unlike normal ranged/melee combat where you can specialise in one, I have to have 4 ways of talking, 4 lots of skill expense, but unlike weapon fire, there is no way to avoid/absorb the outcome (barring GM fiat - which is often horribly rail-roady and can be very frustrating) and indeed Player 'Free Will'.

It's what makes inflammatory comments hard to deal with because they are often considered 'Roleplay' despite the effect having no dice backing them.   As there are no dice, they can be freely 'ignored' which causes more friction and ultimately can result in combat / broken campaigns / bad blood between players.


Down to the mechanics - can you target any stat - no, it's not that you are targeting a stat - but more looking at what's an appropriate defence.  If I was a GM, I'd have said streetwise so I rolled that - which, I agree, is taking things into my own hands and may have been a bit more of a stretch than was appropriate :-)

By the same token.   If I was using Charm to entice an officer from his post... sure, Discipline makes sense.... But what about charming a Thug down an ally... should that not be streetwise.  Or charmingly distracting a soldier from his watch... Vigilance?  Or charmingly teasing a soldier by showing him a turned ankle - Cool maybe (or Discipline!)   Things don't have to be set in stone.   But, of course, the book does say Discipline sooooo..... ;-)

I tend to disagree with you on comments being ignored.  You rolling dice to FORCE his character to change to your vision of what you want him to be is rail-roady and frustrating.  Remember, he has a character he wants to play that is and will be frustrating to us in an ongoing basis.  Rolling dice to force him to change that is not fair to him wanting to play his character.

For Example, There is NO social roll that you can make which will force Forim to murder a child in cold blood.  I don't care what the dice say, I am not a puppet to smooth, forceful or otherwise words.  That said, if you craft a RP speach about leadership, cost of war, or some other thing Forim might do it.  But you need to convince him with words, not with dice.

Hmm,  interesting.  I always thought streetwise would be your knowledge of something.

Rolling deception vs streetwise is trying to convince him that some of his knowledge of living on the street / underground is false?  I guess that kind of makes sense

I am not worried that your dice are the same for each skill.  In fact, I am even more confused that you picked deception if there was no dice benefit for you.  Coercion seemed like the best choice for the direct threat of your text, I could probably be convinced about leadership though.

Where are the rules on social encounters?  I cannot find them in the rule book at all, and in fact found multiple charts / places which define how the different skills oppose what with no mention of any flexibility.  I don't even see any rules where Success = Strain on the opponent lol.

Not attacking, just trying to learn the aspect of the game that I have ignored :P  If something doesnt make sense, I want to either correct it so it make sense, or understand why it should make sense and I just dont know something.

Reading the rules might be the best bet here :P

Again, I was not trying to force my vision here.  I was simply rolling the dice to show how successful I was in apply a threat (since I don't believe I am generally threatening) - which is also the reason I chose deception.  I am not stipulating the player's reaction to it, only my success/failure in applying it.   I accept that I didn't articulate this clearly in my post - and I've already apologised for this.

As for the social combat rules - these are house rules Force brought in - but are not in the book.   Quite deadly ones in fact as you can't soak with armour the way you can with normal stun/soak wounds - and as mooks can't soak stun, it means that words can literally kill LOL :-)   If we're going by 'just the rules' then a success is just that... a complete success.  I suggest someone does something, they fail their roll, they do it.   The key thing is to work in difficulty in the roll... so if they disagree, I should get black dice, if they outnumber, another dice, they have weapons... another etc etc.

*nod.  I must have missed those rules that the Force brought in.  Are you able to compile them into a single post that I / the new comers can read?  Then we can ask the Force to put them in the Rules thread :)

They may or may not stick around.  We were trying them out in the flight from the mines :-)   You see, I can be quite successful at affecting people.... ;-)

Ohhh, I didnt know that they were that new, and had only been used once!

It is still worth compiling them together so we are all on the same page.  I have never even read them, or know where to look to find the discussion about them!

You aren't the only social character in the group now I think :P

But I'm the prettiest, right? :-)

I don't think that anyone in this group is Forim's type.  They certainly are not his species :P

GM, I'd like to make a Perception check along with my post to see if I can find any traces of a stowaway or someone who has been on the ship that isn't us.  Could I get a difficulty I could roll against?

It's a former smugglers' ship, so there's plenty of hideaways. They only just discovered one of the smugglers' compartments when a deadly stowaway hatched. 3D, with 1b because its your ship.

The Difficulty for computery works is 3d. I'll throw in a 1b if you can correctly guess who or what implemented the program in your post.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:02, Fri 24 Mar 2017.

My bet is Hypno.  That little droid is no end of trouble.

Apologies for missing a day.  We had a deployment here at work yesterday that left me very busy all night.

What happened to my character's request to be escorted to the ship during it's maintenance?

Additionally, what happened to not being a jerk?  Let's try role playing characters that aren't like their players and get along.

Apologies for not stating my stats for several abilities in my last post.  They are as follows:

Computers 1P 3A Black Ops Data Breaker and Slicer Gear
Mechanics: 2P 2A (Fine Tuning, Gearhead and Solid Repairs)
Piloting - Space 2P 2A
Education 1P 3A
Agility Skills 4A
Intellect Skills 4A

As I may have already posted, this character is the party bard.

Wow!  Looks like we've got our tech!  Out of curiosity, how did you get 4s in two characteristics without going over the maximum experience allowed to be allocated to characteristics during character creation?

GM, can I spend the advantage to find something interesting?  Like evidence pointing to Hypno?  Probably would be important to be able to tie him to what's going on somehow before I go accusing people.  xD

OK, editing.

Thanks.

GM, I'm guessing you missed my question:

I'm assuming it is a Computer roll, but not sure what the Difficulty is.  I checked the table, but Computer was lacking a row of its own.

[Private to Jurell Delgar:

quote:

Out of curiosity, how did you get 4s in two characteristics without going over the maximum experience

I was wondering the same thing myself.]

I'm camping with the BSA tonight, be back sometime tomorrow afternoon, so I'll be out for at least 24 hours.  ;)
This message was last edited by the player at 20:38, Fri 24 Mar 2017.

Have fun camping!

[Private to 'Kraken': Yeah, that looks like an illegal character creation.  That should really get fixed before he starts making rolls as that's unbalanced.  I'm pretty sure GMs can read private lines.  GM, could you discuss with Jospi fixing his character since he did it incorrectly?]

I said it earlier in the of character post. It will be 3D comma with an extra one boost if you can say in your post who you think it was who put the program into place.

It's too bad I don't speak Binary.  xD

I do!  but wasnt 100% sure you turned the intercom on, or just shouted.

I didn't buy a com, so I wasn't sure if I was outfitted with one at some point or something.

There is a ship intercom in every room, or at least I always assume that.

Oh, I had no idea!  Most ship layouts I've seen of the YT series tend to have one intercom in a particular location on the ship (ref: SWtOR), so I assumed they were not in every room.  Distance in short enough that people could probably hear.

For safety reasons, there's an intercom in most rooms that crew might reasonably be in. The ones aboard the Shimmer are in working order, for now.

Welllllll, that's not terrifying or anything.  Little R2 droid flipped a Dark Side point for "No Reason."  ;p

Somehow I knew that Jurell was going to look like the bad guy in all of this. I actually started writing an "in b4" post in the OOC this morning then erased it. xD

in b4 post?

Also, Hypno has been on my radar as a spy / traitor ever since we got the memory wiped and command gave it back to us.

That **** thing almost killed the whole party on its own.

I wouldnt be surprised if its core memory survived the wipe, and is existing below the surface.  It comes out, takes charge, then goes back into the background.  The core consciousness does not even know about it.

That is what I have been thinking ever since it started.

I have had no proof, so nothing to be done but move on.

You've never seen an "in b4" post?  Like "In b4 that girl becomes the romance interest" or "in b4 the bad guy is really his father?"

It's meant as an expression of predicting something that is obviously going to happen in a plot.

Ive seen predictive posts, heck I have made some.

However, never heard it phrased "in b4"

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/inb4--2

It's been around for quite a long time.  Well over a decade or so.  Cursory Google search brought that link up.

Caddy's station is in the cockpit, however she decided to spend the time in her cabin, not that I commented on that ;)  Good thing neither of us are commenting on anything ;)

Also, I think you missed the sitrep I posted in my earlier post - our options are 1) land, 2) com base and leave, 3) com base and wait, 4) just leave.

Also, I gave the B1 battle droid the con in my post.  Didnt want to send him to deal with the droids :P.  Because that is how I roll.

Bud.  With such a big group.  I am deliberately avoiding grabbing all the game time.  You are the pilot. You know best aboard ship.   If you prefer I order you about, just say.

and I appriciate that, However Just because I am the pilot, doesnt mean I get ALL the screen time on board.  I try to share all screen time opportunities with everyone - however I did give you three options



I picture you being in the cockpit ready to hop on the com if needed and pick options that are provided to you.  If it was up to me, I would turn around and land back in the hangar, mission be damned.  We have a problem that is potentially a) broadcasting our location and b) able to shut down our hyperdrive and kill everyone aboard.

But mission secrecy orders that Forim may or may not have mean that jumping away and finding a moon to land on is better for the mission.

I agree, that while we are flying I can probably make most calls, but you are still the CO and get final say in the larger decision.


I will note that Jospi will have noticed that Forim, and probably Caddy by extension, made A LOT of noise to get us on the ship earlier the entire time we were Jailed.  With the GMs moving us forward so we can have this encounter in Space instead of on the ground I am assuming we got stonewalled.

Just wanted to let you the player know that you the character knows were were strongly advocating to get on the ship and overlook everything before we left personally.

Aye.   We're moving forward to the cool bits :)

Apparently we've beaten the Hypno droid too... so make some roles (2d or 3d I'm guessing - we can't be holding up the entire game for every roll - check the difficult matrix the GM posted for us!) and once you guys tell me the ship is 'ready', we can get moving :-)

I would love to be wrong about this.  Please point me to the IC posts where your characters did this.  This is the only reference to it I can find and it is the only mention, albeit tangentially, that I saw and partially what I based my in character post on.

When I posted this, I had thought we would shortly be given leave to go over the ship.  The intention behind this post was to have a 6+ hour tour of the ship, its insides, and any modifications I know about (including the secret storage) and any by-passes I have had to make in the past.  It was not obvious, but this is where I was agreeing with you IC.

We moved forward 3 days without any in between, so I just rolled with it.

However, even though that IC time was completely skilled over, I wanted to let you know that Forim would be pushing to get us on the ship.  He was the mechanic before, and knows the value of examining your ship before you fly it.  This time it seems like command was telling us otherwise.  However, Forim is 100% behind you that we SHOULD have been given time to examine our ship before we got into space.  And look what happened, we had a problem within 5 minutes of launching.  Command is getting a harshly worded report about the importance of a pilot having time to go over his ship before a mission.

In reply to Forim Luk (msg # 104):

I did see those posts, but didn't know what time frame you had in mind for the tour.  Additionally, Jospi was just interested in getting his hands dirty, so was not thinking about a tour of the ship.

I was specifically referring to Jospi asking IC for our lieutenant to get him an escort to get to the ship.

Yes, this mishandling is suspicious as ****.  Makes his foul temper look appropriate, don't it?  Still, he kept that to himself and that's where it stays... for now.

Oddly, I do this kinda thing for a living... you complain to Forim, who has harsh words with me.   I sooth things over and diplomatically mention this to command who either tell me openly it was essential or imply as much... so I hunt for the why only to find out it really was essential... or someone screwed up.   Either way I use the event as leverage for 'favours' for future needs :)

So, what are we looking for? Refuelling station that is busy, off the beaten track, in-between?

I'd like a place where we can pick up some legitimate work hauling goods to our destination. I intend negotiating the deal... and hopefully making them feel they won a hard deal. We'll gain legitimacy, some creds, future cover and of course, a place to refuel.

For this to work we'll need legitimate looking credentials... which I will be asking my crew to fabricate on the way there (assuming the ones we have aren't good enough)

I will be studying our destination so that I can get something viable to haul.

If we're on a mission that's so top secret and super covert that we were sequestered away from any contact with other people, doesn't it stand to reason that it would be a bad idea to do a side job while we're on it?

There isn't any traffic to your destination. It's a backwoods world that you only heard about because of an encoded transmission. The Imperials likely send some supply ships to the area to resupply the force there, but you don't have credentials for that.

For sure!  I 100% agree with you.  I just wanted to let you know that Forim was as upset as you were "off camera".  But again, you might not have noticed.  Just didnt want you the player to think me the player was ignoring you!  Jurell is giving us enough inter party strife lol



Oh yea!  S*** rolls up hill and all ;)



I believe we never discussed insertion on the planet.  Caddy is coming up with a cover story, rather then a covert op.

Our last mission we picked up some supplies to offload as an excuse to get on the planet, and it worked out well enough.  However in the last mission, the Rebellion provided us with said goods.

I think for now, we come up with a different reason.  Import / Export comes with its own risks on a locked down imperial world.  I tend to Agree with you that we should find a different way onto the planet this time around.  We can talk about this IC in Hyperspace.

Oi!  There you go, throwing me under the bus!  ;p

Roads? Where we're going, we don't need Roads.  We have Jurell!

Now I just have an image of Jurell bulldozing through Stormtroopers to clear a path.  xD

Hmm.   We had a metric ton of unused advantages there.   Caddy may know quite literally nothing about this sector of space or indeed how to navigate it, but there will be various bits of information on these worlds.   Backwater worlds require 'something' ... that something is probably retrieved from a nearby-ish world/worlds/location.   Would it be a huge stretch to find intuit a path from A to B and use to locate a suitable freighter to 'commandeer' (maybe a distress beacon resulting in a hijack or something like that?)

Basically I'm asking if I can use some of those advantages to see a 'piece useful information' - in this case an economical reason to approach the planet we want to.   I am concerned that doing something 'covert' will be spotted considering the forces they had assigned to this place.   Doing something 'dangerously legal' is more my style :-)

Thoughts?

There is 4 seats in there!  its not crowded yet ;)

However you plotted the first jump away where we decide our approach, not the whole thing to the refueling station yet.

Caddy is just talking about one step past where we are at.

I should point out that the Sunset Shimmer is linked to multiple instances of criminal activity and may be flagged as a rebel vessel. The Imperial Navy all have lists of such vessels. It's possible that a sector out on the fringes of civilization might not have an updated copy yet, but if you try to hide in plain sight the game might be over before it begins.

When we hit our refueling station, Jospi might be able to alter the Sunset Shimmer's silhouette so as not to give us away visually.  We'll still need different transponders.  Jospi is trained in Skullduggery and can find what's needed.

Oh, a belated response to Jurell:  I wasn't supposed to have 4 in AGI and INT.  My mistake.  It has been fixed and now I am trained in every one of my career and specialization skills.

Kraken:  Jospi didn't question your computer skills, he didn't want the hyperdrive activated until it was cleared of any potential sabotage.  The navicomputer is a computer, the hyperdrive is an engine.

If Roger the Droid interfaces directly with another Droid, for example Hypno, it will upgrade one dice on its check. Otherwise it has to use a datapad, like a filthy organic.

I was looking at getting roger look at the ships logs to see when that interface was installed.

Look for power drains, see access logs, etc.

I am afraid of letting Roger interface with Hypno, because Hypno could re-program Roger.

Force - any thoughts on my post: msg #115 please?

Thanks :-)

As far as the most knowledgeable person knows, there are no space ports on this world and no shipping to or from it. That's right, it's even more backwards than Tatooine.

You might be better off claiming to be lost.

You know... that I can do!  LOL :-)  And I'll quite 'truthfully' blame a rogue astromech droid....

OK.   Sounds like we have a plan.

We need a couple of things before this is done.

1) Silohette change
2) Some reason to be travelling space - so we should pick up a cargo... or we could be say that we are shipping a person... though I think that would be a harder sell.  Having something 'of use' to the outback planet (and maybe some luxuries from the Empire chiefs) would no doubt sweeten the deal.


Any thoughts?

Jurell could be leading a pampered princess and her retenu to hunt some exotic animals.

GM Need a DC for Roger still, Can we assume 2D?  or would that be a bit harder?


This message was last edited by the player at 20:32, Mon 27 Mar 2017.

I didn't know Forim was a princess!

2d is fine.

You know it!

Dont meant to harass.  I just know roger irl and he has a small posting window.  If we miss it he needs another day lol

Hunting animals... erhm.  I suppose that is possible.  The retinue side is fine.

But that doesn't give us a good story for 'staying here' or indeed a useful tool to use as a bribe (the luxuries)

The cockpit of the falcon is a 4 seater:



Larger image here: http://www.videogameszone.de/s...gt_zurueck_23332.jpg

See the 2 tall seats behind the pilot seats?

Agreed though, that with 4 people it is crowded, even with 4 seats :)

I think the two person cockpit is bare minimum crew. I think it benefits from also having a navigator, an engineer, and a comms officer. also gunners for the turrets.

That is how I saw it to.  Two are required to FLY the ship, but someone else to maybe manage sensors, coms, navicomputer, etc.  Helpful, but not needed.

Kraken, just a reminder that Jospi is INT 3, Computers 2.  If one of those exceeds your own characteristics (which I highly doubt), he can add an additional Yellow die to your Computers roll while you're slicing.  If not, he can still add a Blue boost die to your check.  He is heading to the hold to check out the access point, so he's available if you want him.

In reply to Jospi Renning (msg # 131):

I've added my CS to my character details, accessable in "The Cast" or you can click my name.  I've got an Int of 4 and Computers of 2.  I'll add a boost when I roll, thank you.

FYI, I meant to be clear with the Forim to X that they were private messages - but instead of doing them as private, i didn't care if everyone read them.

I also don't care if they went general and caddy heard them, he would have just been more formal if that was the case.

Ah... I assumed since we were in the same 'room' that I'd here your side of any comm chatter - which is what I assumed you were doing by saying 'To X' :-)

Shrug.  As I said, if you overhear, you overhear.  That is why I was whispering into the com though :)

Give yourself a 2D Perception to see if you overhear if you want :)

@Kraken - I don't actually make a roll in assisting your roll.  If you meant for me to use as a boost to some other check, I'm sure I can use it.

@The Force - Do I need to make a Mechanics check to inspect the improvised access port?  Jospi would want to determine what was used to make it and if it was scavenged from anything active, e.g. the wiring that it tapped into.

No need for a check. The access port is connected by secondary wires to the ship's computer systems. As to where the saboteur got ahold of an extra port, you can't tell. A check of the ship reveals none missing. Maybe there was one in the spare parts at some point.

In reply to Jospi Renning (msg # 136):

Forget  what you posted?

 

I'm saying I'll take 1B dice from your assistance.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:46, Wed 29 Mar 2017.

In reply to 'Kraken' (msg # 138):

Nope, I was responding to you stating that you were using the rolled advantage to pass a boost die to me for my roll.  I was pointing out that I didn't think I was making any rolls, but I would check.

Before I post, can you please confirm what/where etc our destination is?

Currently, you are at a refueling station near the hydian way hyperspace route. You need to refuel your ship. Then you will be able to jump to Karhexadine and begin your infiltration.

In reply to Jospi Renning (msg # 139):

Ahh, I see now, says the blind man.

I figured I might as well pass a boost die to someone to take advantage.  If you can't use it, so be it.

At the present moment, this scene doesn't involve every member of the team. I'd like to take this opportunity to request that everyone not involved in it get started on a little exercise that we're all going to do eventually. Not me. I'm the GM. Just shut up and listen.

Imagine if you had a piece of equipment that was specifically tailored to you. Some piece of gear that stood out from the others. Something that made your equipment sheet a little bit more than just a collection of items. What would it be?

We're not just looking for a blaster that does extra damage. If it is a blaster something about it is different from the standard model. Something that can't readily be replicated by a big budget.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that we are looking for a piece of equipment that, in a small way, allows you to break the rules. I've been struggling to think of a good example from the movies themselves, and I'm having a hard time. I keep coming back to weapons and that bothers me.

Princess Leia's target shooting gun, which can be effectively concealed. Han Solo's Quick Draw Blaster, which can be drawn in a fraction of a second. Luke Skywalker's lightsaber.

None of that is exactly what I'm looking for, but it is approaching the idea. A piece of gear that is unique, special, and characteristic of your characters abilities.

A pistol that fires a grappling hook, allowing you rappel. Slicer gear that can be worn on your forearm. Jet boots. A Zero Point Energy glove.

You can talk about it amongst yourselves here, but once you get an idea that you want to pursue, send me a private message. Give it a really good long think: we're not going to be doing this anytime soon. We're going to let the anticipation build because I am simultaneously generous and sadistic. That's the Force for you, it has two sides.

I've updated the rules on Languages in "Rules & Party Resources." Have a look.

Kraken has a Comlink, I assume everyone bought one?
I would assume we all shared our Comlink #, if others have not, did not want to, Kraken did.

If there isn't a list of everyone's comlink written down somewhere, Kraken would have created a list and posted on the ships electronic files so everyone who needs access can be sure to reach out to everyone if needed.

Yes, if you have a commlink don't worry about finding the right signals. Demanding you all be fixed on the right frequency and having traded them ahead of time... not very Star Wars. I may make an issue about range, signal interference, and possibly battery life in the future as these things become thematically relevant.

Quick question.  How exactly has the R2 been wheeling around since it was manually shut down by Kraken?  Was that an oversight?  Are we supposed to take that to mean that it's turned itself back on and been doing it's own thing even though the entire crew is suspicious of it and, presumably, call out if they saw it moving about the ship?

I just figured that in the days since you got started, you brought it online. From there, it did what I described it as doing: nothing, unless it is given a task. I also assumed you were watching it like a Vhork watching its prey.

My vote: Hypno was turned off during the voyage.  Realistically, we'd need to sleep and not be able to watch him all the time.  Since we suspect he/it made unsanctioned changes to the ship, we don't trust him so I don't think we'd have left him on auto-mode.

Let's not rewind this.   Let's assume you turned him on while you were watching him (and off when not).  He's acting in accordance with the info provided - while you're watching him.  That is to say, he appears 'normal' right now.

Now go chop him up and find out who programmed him to be a psycho!
This message was last edited by the player at 21:14, Sat 08 Apr 2017.

It's going to take awhile to dismantle Hypno. I'll assume you're paying attention to ship goings-on while you're doing it.

I'll be there with Jospi assisting him, however Jurell, Xyklo and Zeic are also on board, between the 5 of us, I'd think we have the ship well in hand?

[Private to Jospi Renning: Jospi, I'll give you a boost die.  I'm not as skill in Mechanics, but I'm pretty handy.
Mechanics = YGGG.]

Think Zeic may be off ship, but yeah we should have things covered on the Shimmer.

That is correct. I went with the officers, in case things get ugly.

where is Caddy getting all this cash?  we have 750 for two fillups, and we just spent 850 credits on this one fillup, not counting the thousand(s) for redoing the sillouette?

Caddy worked a negotiation for a lower price of  476 credits and 6 decicredits

Astrogation I also rolled several advantages using one to shorten our travel time, saving fuel.

True,  But she just gave out another 350 credits to this lady to get a cargo.


Edit: Also, she is going to talk to someone about spending another few thousand changing our sillouette.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:18, Sun 09 Apr 2017.

I realize my last post might seem accusatory, it is not inteded that way.  Just didnt want to detour to talk to someone about a service we can't afford.  Forim is also going to make a comment IC about it, but didnt want to do so if he knew about a fund pool other then the 750 :)

To be fair... I assumed we had 'enough' to deal with it in our kitty given what we asked for and given I was told not to micro-manage money (we also didn't get paid for the last mission!)  If not, I personally still have enough to cover it but I'll have to go back to micro-managing :-)

PS - I'll wait to post to confirm who is with me on the trip down to this woman.

fair enough!  Just wanted to make sure :)

Seemed like the GM had been implying that the silouette change was NOT in the budget (at the meeting, and again when Kraken rolled to find someone)

Also, in the meeting the "boss" said no to asking for a shipment / money to buy a shipment.

Thats why I was curious as to where the money was coming from :)

I just want caddy to think about her old request.  Think what they are doing for us.  And then think what you want to do to them.

um, the rodian IS speaking basic. He just has an accent because his mouth is a snout.

Hey nothing wrong with having a snout!
Very reliable snouts are, unlike those awkward and messy mouths...

Well, obviously Caddy only speaks Proper English, none of this heavily accented poodoo.  those non near humans can go suck vacuume!  Long Live The Empire!  Wait, what?

:P

if it wasn't already obvious that Caddy was an aristo snob...

anyone aboard the ship want to do anything? Orders for your new R2?

:-) But you love me.....

Wouldnt change our princess for any other!

In reply to The Force (msg # 166):

Hold your horses mate, RL comes first, then family, then game.  ;)

organics can't actually speak Droidspeak. The tones are too precise, and too rapid for a person to replicate with their voice.

In reply to The Force (msg # 170):

I edited my comment

If you want to make one last post before an in-game two-day timeskip, now's the time.

Why is there going to be a time skip?  There's about to be a hullabaloo with the smuggling compartment (or not) and with Caddy and Forim when they return with the station's workers.

Yes, but I promise that it's nothing terribly notable.

LOVE the 'Meanwhile' Force :-)

Any requests for how to come out of hyperspace? Deep into the system, stopping at the system's border, what?

Is the liquid we have booze?  Just wondering, cause I thought the plan was to get luxury items.  Caddy may not have specifically said so IC, or I am remembering something wrong.

As long as our cargo would have a reasonable reason for being on that planet, I am all good!

Would be kind of dumb to have "farming equipment" on a "high tech world".  Just want to make sure our cargo makes sense for our destination (not saying it is high tech, just using it as an obvious example)

it's a compound that is used to kill metal mites.

In reply to The Force (msg # 176):

I gave a boost to your piloting roll from my Astrogation.

My in game comment was that I found a good place out of normal travel so you wouldn't have to worry about hitting anything.



I'd say it would depend on what our background story is.  If we are legit traders, then we should follow that narrative and do what any normal merchant/trader entering a new system would do.  I imagine that is to follow any local/Imperial laws for starting a new business.

We could use the two down days to investigate what that requires, fill out any paperwork and apply for business licenses etc.

You must register a business on an Imperial planet. generally the process is measured more in months than days.

In reply to The Force (msg # 180):

If this is the case, I'm sure most/many run businesses under the table rather than as honest business.  Since we don't have months, perhaps we can buy forged papers to appear legit or simple wing it and run it as something else.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:19, Sun 16 Apr 2017.

You're absolutely right. The Empire's corruption has created an entire industry of forging papers, and most small businesses work overtime to avoid official attention.

There is a map in Group 0. If it is hard for you to read, say something. I hope it will provide a useful visual aid.

There is a map in Group 0. If it is hard for you to read, say something. I hope it will provide a useful visual aid.

I'm guessing there was nothing in the compartment we were nervously investigating then?

No.  and you knew about it to begin with. And it's actually one of two smuggling compartment. The other one is in the neck of the ship, on the way to the cockpit.

1boost, one free upgrade to piloting check to stay hidden on approach. If that is what you end up doing. Maybe you will just sail out into open space, I don't know. You guys always surprise me.

What is the difficulty / setbacks to come in from the "north" side of the map to the back side of the planet?  We would time the entry so that this patrol is on the far side.  a few hyperspace jumps to get around to the other side.

OOC I'm rather confused as to the direction of the plot :(   Probably my own fault but if someone could confirm where we're going and more importantly, at what stage of the travel we're at, please?

We are trying to land on K1 to start our mission.

Right now we are FAR out of the system doing a passive sensor look as we plan our approach.  We are going to meld two approaches into one:

1. Try to come in stealthy.
2. If detected, say we are merchants.

This way if one fails, we have a backup.

"If you look out the port side windows, you will see Karhexadine 1, our target objectiveÈ

You are "near" the gas giant, as in only a few thousand kilometres away from it. You have not yet entered the asteroid belt.

Ok :-) Just confirming as I wasn't sure if we wanted to try and use the gun-runners.  But that we could maybe use on the way out :-)

new house rule:, If you have taken some ranks in a non career skill, and consequently paid extra experience for them, and then later obtained a new specialization that gives you that skill as a career skill,

You are refunded the experience points you spent as an extra cost.

example. You are an Outlaw Tech who purchased two ranks in Stealth. This required 5 points extra for each rank, for a total of 10. Later you take the Slicer specialization, which provides Stealth as a career skill. You are refunded the 10 points you spent on the two ranks of Stealth that, had you had Stealth as a career skill, you would not have spent.

Roger Roger.

I think there are no objections to this plan.

GM, can you post the summary of 24hrs of observation?

The Alpha Team settles down on their, shutting down all nonessential systems to minimize their signal output. It seems to work fairly well. The fighters fly on without changing course.

After a little while, some albedo fluxuations seems to be coming from the planet. Without active scanning it's hard to tell from this distance, but it seems that something sizable is in orbit around the planet.

It's been an hour, and you are debating what this means, when an alarm sounds in the cockpit. Forim and the flight team are on it at once. It is a proximity alarm; something has just come out of hyperspace.

About half an AU behind the Sunset Shimmer, a ship enters the system. It immediately powers up its sublight engines and shields and begins racing forward at combat speed. You note its class immediately: a Skipray Blastboat.

Pilot and Gunners must roll Vigilance. All else can roll either Cool or Vigilance.

Sitting in the navagation seat, Kraken worked the ships system computer, checking and updating, scanning and surfing.

OOC:
COOL - 'Kraken' rolled 1 success, 1 advantage

Erhm.... guys... can we please move these posts to the IC thread?

I copied the GMs text into my last post, as thats where it seems to fit time wise :)

  Force of habit, I reply in the same thread as the GM when he ask questions.

Oops. silly me.

Well, I suppose the GM can ignore my questions about the ships trajectory, as Caddy announced our location.

My question about hyperspace coordinates and relative power of the two ships still stand!

You can jump to hyperspace after spending one combat round using the "stay on target" action. A ship needs to be going relatively straight to make a jump to lightspeed.

A Skipray blastboat is more heavily armed, but not faster or more agile.

If you have any advantages or triumphs from your initiative roll, you can use them to assist with the first combat round. Such as an Aim action.

I thought of something different to spend the triumph on, if getting out of range is not possible.

The flash of engine power blinds their sensors, and they are unable to get a clear signature reading before we jump to hyperspace.

Am I still in the other turret? Sorry I haven't been around, but I'd like to hop back in if possible.

Sure, NP Zeic.

EVERYONE: In future, you can start any conflict anywhere aboard the ship you want, unless I say otherwise. For instance, if you are sleeping while the ship is in hyperspace and you suddenly come out of hyperspace.

Okay, Forim. Your engine's boost is currently obscuring the ship's engine signature, making it super hard to read.

Question-

22:52, Today: Zeic Plirr rolled 4 successes, 7 advantages using the Star Wars Edge of the Empire with a dice pool of 4A 1D 3B.
Did I do this correctly? I'm assuming that we're at short range because we're right in the engine wash. If I screwed up I'll reroll.

This all assumes that it's even my turn, of course. I rolled pretty high on my vigilance check, if that helps.

I thought we were at medium range? That was the case, and the Skipray had a 2D roll?...

In which case its 2D to hit, but you'll also need something to increase the range of our guns (short I think?). There's also the double upgrade on your roll you didn't account for 2P+2A.
If we are at medium range and you don't have sniper shot, I will gladly take the bonuses ;)

Ship battles are different. In ship battles you take the difficulty from the difference in the relative size of the ships, not the distance between them. It's easier for a small ship to hit a big ship,  and harder for a big ship to hit a small ship.

Ah yes I see.

Does that mean Zeic should reroll with the upgrades?

Close!

As Xyklo said, to hit this guy is 2D.  However as the Force said, for the wrong reason.  Since we are the same size, it is 2D to hit them no matter the range.  Our weapons just have a certain range they can reach.

However, I did two actions to make things better, so you upgrade your shots twice.

That means your 4A turns into 2P 2A because of my piloting.

Spend your advantages / triumphs to disable weaponry!


If you spend your maneouver aiming, it becomes 2P 2A 2D 4B (if you are the first one to use those boosts)

Ok, I just rerolled and got something a bit more reasonable.

08:36, Today: Zeic Plirr rolled 3 successes, 3 advantages using the Star Wars Edge of the Empire with a dice pool of 2P 2A 2D 4B

And in that case I will be spending those to disable weaponry. Thanks for the clarification. I'll have a post up soon.

Gunners, remember to post your total damage when hitting so the GM doesnt have to math ;)

We have 3 guns, all do 6 damage, all have crit 3.

Xyklo:

You rolled 1A instaed of 1B

Also remember to declare how you spend your advantages :)
True aim upgrades the check, as well as providing the boost, right?


Zeik: You did 6+3 = 9 damage.





Also everyone remember that youc an take 2 strain to aim a second time, to get a second blue dice :)

Apologies! Will reroll as I can't see the individual dice.

May have been my error, but iPhone predictive text has done me on this before :(

Tired of waiting for others. Moving on.

Just re read the bit about all attacks next round being upgraded in Forims post.

Sorry. I'm an idiot.

It's all of your turn again now.
Then we will have the TIEs.
Then it's your turn again.
Then it will be the Skipray, then the TIEs.
Then it will be your turn again.

I am waiting for the Gunners to have their turn before I book it to the asteriod field and go defensive.

You do not get to take advantage of the double attack upgrade on your shots however, so you are at your normal.

I'm not sure if my deception helped... butif someone wants to roll a countermeasures roll to disrupt the starfighter's comms and break their formation, I'll help out with a 3a.

Zeic Plirr, are you adding the 2B to your own checks or just anyone who fires at our opponents?  I'll fire the guns from the cockpit (if able) just need to know if I can use those boost dice?
Once I get the go ahead, I'll use the cockpit lasers.

Added a roll for the Skipray's defences on the attack against it.

For the next allied character who goes, I assumed it was Forim but it could be anyone.

The ship is currently facing away from the skipray. all the shields are rear at the moment. The front mounted weapons can be fired at the TIEs but not the skipray.

Can we just say Zeic targeted the skipray and Kraken targeted the ties then ;)

that would be fine. I will update the situation later today.

Sweet thanks!  I want that skipray down.  We can blow the rest of those ties up with asteroids ;)

I will hopefully post something before noon sending us evasive into the asteroid field.

Now that I have posted, I am reading about how we will destroy them all in the asteriod field.

If I am reading this right, now that I am in the asteroid field I will have to make a piloting check as a maneouuver each round, correct?

Difficulty is Speed or half of silhouette (rounded down), which ever is higher.  Upgrade it a number of times equal to the smaller:

We have Speed 5, silhouette 4

Sour our difficulty would be 5, upgraded twice (same for the ties following us)

So our DC would be 3D 2C 2S, correct?

However, because of my 3 advantages I spent, I get to ignore the terrain difficulty and just make a 2D Piloting check, correct?

Yeah that looks OK to me.

The TIEs have a silhouette of 3, so I guess I upgrade the challenge by 2, which is 2*0.5 rounded up.
That means their difficulty is 3d 2c.

Also, all gunnery checks made against ships in the asteroid belt are at 1s for cover.
Piloting checks have 2s because of difficult 'terrain'. I think Forim ignores that because of Ace talents.
Aren't you guys glad you have Forim in the pilot's chair right about now?
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:15, Tue 02 May 2017.

Definitely better him than me. All the agility in the world can't make up for actually knowing what you're doing.

Actually, I'm trying to imagine a high agility character with no piloting skills flying something and am not quite sure how it works.

In any case, I'll edit my post to reflect what actually happened. Unless you'd rather assume Zeic just missed very, very badly.

the difference between 4A and 2P 2A is about 10% chance of success.  The difference between 4A and 3A is about 10% chance of success.

More dice is always better.  More upgrades are good, but no substitute for more dice.

Also, your shot at the ties was when they were OUTSIDE The asteroid field.  I just ran into it :)

Also, the GM forgot we went evasive!

He should have rolled 3p 2a 1C 1D 3s on that attack.

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Caddy: Last round Forim re-balanced the shields to 2S rear and 1S fore, however your post might still stand as you might not realize it :)

Is there anything you can do to add setbacks to their navigation in the asteroid field?  Blind their sensors or such?  We want them to start failing rolls faster then we do.  At this rate we will blow up before then!

Hey this is our first space fight. there's a lot going on and I'm not used to it all.

I'll fix it when I have a chance.

No pressure / worries!  Just doing everything I can to not die ;)

Forim - Ayup! :-) I'm happy to be clueless.

As for blinding their sensors. I believed that is what I was doing in my earlier post.  I can roll computers again though! :-)  Suggestions?

In reply to Forim Luk (msg # 231):



I'm happy to shot or use computers to boost shields or try to block their coms.

[Private to GM: GM, I'm confused.  Forim Luk's Bio Says GM.  I thought you were NPCing Forim, but many of these conversations leads me to believe otherwise.  If you aren't, you may want to go and edit the character so it shows as a player.]

Because there may be some confusion:

Recently I changed Forim's player to have GM access. One of his RL friends is playing Roger, but that player is temporarily indisposed. Forim is helping Roger's player by running his character for a short time.

Forim has no idea what sort of plot we're doing. He is not taking advantage of his position. If he does I will make him play an Ewok.

Yub Yub commander.

Forim do we have a plan for this round? I.e. Should us gunners wait for you to activate your piloty goodness before firing, or should we shoot now and ask for directions outta here later?

Sorry.  I'll get one up tonight.  I plan on making life easy for you to shoot so worth waiting

Yeah, sorry folks, was out of city all weekend, then out of province the past three days.  Still plenty busy, but I'll try to keep up!

Is it 3D to target the ties due to size diff, or is there any upgrades to C due to the asteroids?...

2D 1S is the difficulty to shoot those ties.  Upgraded twice.

Thanks skipper

Great Shot!  And, as an added benefit (if I remember correctly) the more mooks you kill in a mook squad, the less skilled that squad becomes.  That means they should start crashing if we can blow up enough this round!

Well it helps when you remember to add the upgrades given by a gifted pilot. I proper messed up on the first round ;)

Indeed.  4P is a nice pool indeed :)

I don't have skill in gunnery, 3A, so do I get 2P 1A then?

Yep!

Questions to GM:

1. They should be at 2D difficulty shooting us?  It is based on relative silhouette, not distance.
2. Do they not need to make a piloting check, to avoid getting smashed to pieces in the asteriod?

They got a downgraded difficulty because of the computer hacking attempt.

thwy probably do need to make such a check. I'll get to it now.

Ahh, that would do it!  *shakes fist at roger*

Side note, Did he make it harder for them to pilot with his slicing attempt?  Just curious what effect that had.

I removed their soak for the shots this turn. He was trying to reduce their defence, but TIEs don't have shields so I took away their armour instead.

Additional note, can we assume our mechanics have been making repairs for the fight?  They have been quiet and not posting.

I was assuming that the GM was traking our damage, but decided to go back and figure out what it was, as I thought we were getting low.

We are currently at -3 HT :P  We may or may not have just blown up.

Did Xyklo's crit kill an additional mook?

Doing everything I can to see if more ships get blown up so that last shot _might_ miss :P

ah, I see. okay, it's not unreasonable to have 'Hypno,' who I really wish you guys would rename, doing repairs.

You are at 1 HP.

Yes, the crit knocked out an extra fighter. I already took that into account.

I think evasive maneuvers increases the difficulty of gunnery checks, doesn't it? makes it harder to shoot you and harder for you to shoot?

Unless you have Gained the Advantage, which ignores those penalties :)

now see, I knew that, but I thought maybe some others didn't and didn't want to ask.

Solid captilization of the learning opportunity there.  The Force teaches.

Mechanics 2d to assess the problem and get an ETA on repairs.

3D to actually begin repairs if you want to get right to it.

In reply to The Force (msg # 259):

Anyone better with Mechanics than 1P 3A?  Jospi Renning perhaps?
How about I check to assess the problem and Jospi Renning you begin repairs and I'll boost ya?

For the record, I'm fine with using my action to fix the ship:  Hyperdrive or just some manual damage.

If we fight, that's fine too ... cause if we fail, we are all making new characters.

So, I'm good with either.  ;)  May the force be with us ... always.  :p

Or you could fix the hyperdrive while we bluff... and then we flee as soon as it is online.  I'm fine either way really.  I just made a decision (for good or bad!)

PS - My earlier thought was to board the skipray and take it over since it appeared less damaged... LOL!

The asteroids are not terribly thick. They're mostly a few hundred kilometres apart. Visually, they provide a reasonable obscurant. On sensors, they don't block much. So it's not insane to try to use them to cover your ship, but it's not a guarantee.

Oh, right. If you send R2-E3 down there, who I really hope you are planning to rename someday, he can just stay in the ductwork after the job is done. Should cut a little time off the operation, but he wouldn't be available for other work during the flight.

I have Sniper Shot, that allows me to upgrade the difficulty to increase the range of weapons. Can I get a round of shooting in at medium range, before any of their short range weapons can have a go?...

Oooh... Success on the comms chatter :-) Hopefully it will tell us something so we can know to 'get out of here' or 'stick around'.   Also, Force, any chance we can tell what the Skipray is doing.  Do we need to worry about being fired upon from it?

Cheers!

The skipray blast boat is currently disabled, with extensive hull damage. It might come back online at any time, but any combat it engages in would be a matter of desperation.

When you reach 0 hull points, your ship is disabled until you can repair it. For example, if you are at 1 hull point, and a group of three TIE fighters shoot you even one time, your ship would be dead in space.

Okay, Xyklo, NP.

GM, since I did the mechanics check, I assume that was my action/turn so I won't be firing the front gun?  Are we still in turn rounds?

You can make an Action without a maneuver.

*Opens hands and shrugs*
Okay, fine. But just remember, you asked for it.

You forgot to roll their piloting check so they dont blow up!

Also, I blame our fearless leader :P

Mr GM.... did I get anything from my success to decode the comms chatter so that I can find out what is happening on the shuttle?

yes, I forgot. Hang on.

Thank you :-)

Just to confirm.  There is a Skipray (Disabled), a Shuttle (Limited/No weapons?) and two Ties left?

Also, I am a little confused OOCly.  I thought we were here to land on the planet 'quietly'.   If we land with a whole lot of noise, haven't we lost already?

23:16, Today: Caddanra 'Caddy' Manitu rolled 1 success, 1 threat using the Star Wars Edge of the Empire with a dice pool of 3a 2d.  Knowledge Warfare.

How long does it take to Fuel/Scramble a number of Tie fighters?

Finally, how difficult would it be to board and capture/scuttle the Skipray once we've looted it?

Thanks!
Cxx

There were three TIEs, but one got blowed up. The other two are circling. The skipray is temporarily disabled with a lot of hull damage. Raptor shuttles have two laser cannons and a belly mounted blaster turret.

"No plan survives contact with the enemy." Are you going to try to accomplish your mission regardless? There may never be another chance to get this intel.

Looting the skipray may be hard or easy depending on who is aboard.

Fuelling and getting TIEs into space is fast. They have quick start up cycles.

THank you kindly.  I updated my post a little :-) My vote is obviously to pull a blinder - poke the hornet's nest and get away with it!  It's what Star Wars is all about!! :-)
This message was last edited by the player at 07:44, Mon 15 May 2017.

Your gunnery check blew up one TIE.

You wrote that Xyklo is the one who hit it, but that was a typo as Xyklo missed ;)

yeah, sorry.

Yeah I thought I was taking a shot from further out using sniper shot before we got to close range and were exposed to return fire, then Kraken shot too and hit. I'm assuming Kraken doesn't  have sniper shot, do I get another round of shooting at close range (cos the way it panned out I thought I was being all strategic and ended up just taking one round of shooting at a much harder difficulty)?...

Quite possibly I've misunderstood the entire thing though! ;)

I would suggest taking the extra shot since it makes sense (and is what I believed the situation was) and saves wasting time while the GM replies as much :-)  If he doesn't want to allow it, he can delete the extra post :-)

Hrm.... ok.  So the shuttle managed to dock, to repair, and to release in the time it has taken us to do one long-ranged shot?   :(    Kinda disappointed there as it rather ruins a good storyline :(

I prefer to think that it sets one back into motion.

So the triumph I rolled on my leadership (posted in private) that gets ignored too?

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And a little tongue in cheek:

And do we get to notice this massive time-jump?  Do we get to see their use of this new temporal technology?   Is Q going to show up and beat up the Agent for messing with the time streams? :-)

Force should I take a retrospective shooting roll for last round then? Say I lowered my initiative to after the TIEs for continuity purposes?

Might just give us the edge here....

Okay go ahead.

And not that you know this, but they were trying to repair the ship on the inside, and just succeeded as their support crew docked. "Get out, get off!"

Best mechanic can take a free Mechanics check to get the ship rolling again, in addition to any other actions.

Force I'll give you the retro round dice roll here rather than on the IC thread, so as not to confuse things further ;)
Wasn't amazing...

18:14, Today: Xyklo Voozul rolled 3 successes, 1 advantage using the Star Wars Edge of the Empire with a dice pool of 4P 1B 2D 1S.  Retro round lasers. True aim. .
9 damage, adv for a boost to the next guy...

Okay, one Fewer TIE currently beleaguering you. Boom.

Cool. It's our turn right?

I'm going to wait on Forims choice of piloting before doing anything. I think with a bit of luck we can clear the road here...

yeah it's your group's turn.

In reply to The Force (msg # 292):

What is the difficulty for Mechanic / Main Power:  2D?
I'll go with that, and reroll if it's different.

Rules for restarting a disabled ship are found in the "Hull Trauma" section of the 'Taking Damage' portion of the 'Starships & Vehicles' chapter, on page 256. The same rules can be found in the Edge of the Empire book beginning on page 242.

The check is a Hard (3d) Mechanics check. If you succeed, the ship is at a substantial disadvantage for the forseeable future. Its Speed is reduced to 1, its Handling is reduced to -3, and all weapons are inoperable. Any hits that inflict Hull Trauma (ie. permanent damage) automatically generate a Critical Hit, with +30 added to the result.

These effects persist until the ship can be dry-docked and repaired.

Yes, these same effects currently apply to the Skipray Blastboat.

Also, because Forim is trying to drag you all into his fantasy realm where you all live through this:

I believe that the hyperdrive is currently alive and well, and indeed better than ever except for all the sparks and fire and that green fluid gushing out of it. However, you are still currently ensconced in the warm embrace of the asteroid field's collective mass shadow. You have to get to open space before you can try to make the jump to hyperspace.

In reply to The Force (msg # 294):

I was going to roll the extra 1D, but I see you got it covered.

Well, at least I still got 2 success's.

Lasers now operable again?!?....

Afraid not. All weapons offline.

I've rolled this already but was unable to post yesterday due to back to back meetings all day.   Would I be able to divert emergency power and life support to lasers for 'one last shot' to give us time to repair the ship without the tie killing us?

Sure. Mechanics 2D.

So, you guys want evasive, or a boost to your lasers?

In either case, What is our piloting pool GM?

Well your silhouette is 4, I think, so half 4 is 2. your speed is 1, so 1 upgrade. 1d 1c, with 2s for asteroids.

I wasn't 100% sure, so figured to ask.   Are any Tie's in range?  Can I shot?
If not, then I'll attempt to continue working on our bird before we get into combat again.

one TIE is in range.

In reply to Forim Luk (msg # 300):

I vote Evasive, we do want to survive.
With 3 shooters, odds are one or two will hit without a bonus ... I hope.

Nice work Caddy.

Err GM did we have power for one last shot or one last round of shooting?...

Forim, I'm not sure if we can limp out of here at our current speed can we? Seems like we have to go to the bitter end!

You have the power for one last round of shooting. Caddy turned off the life support and it can't be readily turned back on again.

Thanks boss.

Things do look pretty bad then!

Make 1 post about your reactions to these events.

Make 1 Disciple check, 2D, to control your stress.
Any net Successes will increase your Duty.
If you score any net Advantages, you may give 1 Boost to another team-mate.
Any Triumphs will provide a bonus on the next Discipline check, which will be soon.

Any net Failures will result in an equivalent number of Stress on your character.
Any net Disadvantages will provide a Setback on your next Discipline check.

Good response time, everyone.
Zeic is going to be slowing up on posting for awhile, but will eventually return. So I've asked someone else who previously expressed interest if they want to join in.

This is going to be a bit weird in-character, because you are in tightly confined spaces in interdicted space, but we may end up pretending that they were there the whole time. We lost two people who were supposed to be part of the team, so maybe it's not such a stretch to imagine that they combined to make a new person.

No worries.   We can assume he's with us! :-)  So long as he's a huge Caddy fan, we'll be just fine :-)

And... welcome to the game! :-)

I hope now that you can see the maps I painstakingly hand sketched you will now have an inkling as to the amount of effort I have been putting into preparing this mission. Consequently, I hope that you can now understand why I was so reluctant to let you all just bail out before it has officially begun.

Oh, and by the way. Did anybody think to grab the R2 Droid?

Awesome stuff boss. Particularly like the marmalade on map 2! ;D

In reply to The Force (msg # 311):

I'd think it would have followed on its own ... Order #1, don't die.  ;)

*chuckles* We appreciate the effort, Force :-) I was keen to blow up and skipray though and then head to the planet! :-)

Regardless, what do you want us to do about landing the pods.  And do you want me to post 'in tandem' for Zeic - and finally, who's the new player as they aren't in the Cast List?

Cheers!
Cxx

Stranded behind enemy lines. An important mission, outnumbered and outgunned.

Xyklo lives for this! :)

Literally hours spent just on the maps, only those maps because there are others that you haven't seen yet, to say nothing of the lifeforms and cultures that inhabit it, getting all the details just right, including a scale and a legend and a compass, not just one but three released all at once, on top of the system map I doubt you were expecting me to produce, and the one thing you were drawn to in that glut of geography, that abundance of artistry, that copious cartographical creation willed into existence solely for you to drag your fictitious carcasses across...

and the ONE thing you focus on...

A guy can't eat doritos while sketching?

*Hums "You're Welcome"*

Yes, Xyklo, you may do what you suggested regarding advantages.

Oh, and everyone gain 10 xp. Spent it now on whatever you want or save it.

Sorry if this is an obvious answer, which group am I in?  Or did you break the group's down by the new threads?  Didn't want to answer to the wrong thread, although I did see Xyklo Voozul post a question to me, so I assume I'm with the group.

The ships have landed together bud.  Though you are in the pod with Forim, Roger and Xyklo (according to previous posts).  Caddy is in the pod with the unknown addition and Zeic :-)

Yeah, the pods are only a short jog apart.

You are at the north edge of the first map, just above the escarpment. You are on your own now. Go! Be free!

Hello Everyone, I shall be playing your friendly intelligence officer Anders. Cheers.

You knew he was there from the beginning.

Hey Andres.  Welcome!  I'm guessing you're with me then :-) Check my last post... I was speaking to you.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:03, Sat 27 May 2017.

In reply to Caddanra 'Caddy' Manitu (msg # 325):

Sounds good to me.

Welcome Anders!

I'd kind of assumed we'd already regrouped. Was I presumptuous???

I thought we had but the time streams seemed broken... no one came to check that all was well with the other pod and it just didn't feel coherent.   Maybe just me but those type of things are important to me.