Post OOC Chatter in here.

So I was thinking about playing a baron of house Ailil. The storyteller said that you were also considering playing house Ailil. I think we can make them different enough to both play the same house.

Oh difference isn't an issue I am always willing to co-operate within the same House,just wanted to make sure its not aggressive out right plotting against one another because it could cause bad blood. I am even game to work with you on background and what not.

Great, tell me a little about the character you have in mind.

allready have an idea for a shared antaganist, if that interest you?

All I can say is I'd like you to try working a Gwydion Sidhe who you bested , and possibly killed one of his loved ones, (possibly by accident unseelie dont neccessarily ignore the escheat), or maybe maimed, or ruined him politically, the possibloetys are staggering,  and he just disappeared angrily and mysterously...

just an idea people.

 Are you interested in maybe family, sister, cousin , married couple or what ever ? Since I am good with any of that.Especially if it was a challenge over honor or something. The sidhe I am thinking of doing up is going to be a social beast, most likely. Her primary will be Social/Mental/Physical in that order.

sounds good to me! and yes a challenge to honor would be a thing Gwydion is easily compelled by.

I could be your brother or your uncle. However, I am planning on being a Baron so I may just be the royalty that you have sworn fealty to.

I will not choose social as my primary because you are. Are you planning on playing a male or female?

got the hint silverelfs going for a female.

Female I also plan on title. So I am not so sure about swearing fidelity there. I will know more once I have a chance to stat her out.

Some things about backgrounds.

Try to explain them,

dont need a full history for mentors and retinue, but who they are, what their position in mortal or fae society is, would be appreciated.


also not sure if I want to allow pooling backgrounds in this game, any thoughts?

I am not sure what you mean about pooling background ?

I have a detailed history in the works, because I like to do it like this.

Character Info

Before Chrysalis

Chrysalis

Fey Society

Mortal Society

Currently

Than I add notes through game play of what happens to my character.

oh do either of you have the shadow court book, I do and can help you with its two unique arts, contempt, and delusion if you want.

I have all the books, I got them, I was a funder on the CTD20 Kickstart ^_^ so if you need anything I have that covered :3

I also have the shadow court book. Silverdale do you know what level title you are going to take?

I can make an argument for or against pooling backgrounds, so it really up to you as storyteller.

I haven't fully done my sheet I work background first, its why I was asking if you wanted to be relatives, companions what have you. Before I work points to take an ally or something.

Are we doing starting changingling basic creation points, more advanced with more freebies than normal ? HighKing ?

I think normal creation should be good.

Okay ^^

I funded the kickstarter too, but just got the deluxe C20 and PDF

mostly cause even that much was my Xmas gift from my decidedly wealthier sister.

In reply to High King (msg # 19):

Evenin' all! I'm thinking of playing an Unseelie Scathach (Arcadian rather than Autumn). Her background is in Yoruba and Vodun, so she uses veves as a very culturally specific kind of rune magic. I'm thinking she'll specialise in Soothsay with some Sovereign as well.

I'm planning on playing a Knight of Fiona who seeks to find and explore lost trods in the Near Dreaming. I'm willing to have been Fostered out to a PC Baron.

no more discussion under Char creation please I forgot to make it a notice.... Lets have the convo in here.
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No worries.

In reply to baduizt (msg # 23):

I'm planning on playing a member of House Dougal. :)

BTW, have you considered using the C20 rules for Unleashing? It depends on the magic level of the game, obviously, but it adds some flexibility to cantrips.

The rules are really simple and you can read them here: https://www.kickstarter.com/pr...6262?cursor=12154905. In short, you roll as normal, adding Nightmare dice to your dice pool. Difficulty 5 if you want to coax it, or 8 if you want to command it. If you roll fewer successes than your Art level, the result is as normal. If you roll more, the casting has unexpected negative consequences as it runs away from the caster. If you coax the Unleashing, the ST decides the outcome; if you command it, you get more say. It costs two Glamour points and you gain Nightmare dice.

So, two Ailil, a Dougal, A Scathach, and a Fiona so far. What ranks are you folks looking at, and is anyone interested in having some background in common with a knight of Fiona with a passion for exploring the Dreaming?

I'm thinking Title 2, tops.

any ideas on a background pool?

Also want descriptions for any freehold, as I say in the char creation rules.

Well, there are a number of options. I'm just throwing around ideas here, so take whatever works.

You could have the characters reclaim a lost/forgotten freehold. The Resurgence reignited some old balefires, but the Second Coming also did. Depending on when you set the story, it's entirely feasible that an old deserted bar or house has been discovered with a burning balefire, and that the characters are helping nurture it back to health. Alternatively, the PCs could even be people with competing claims over the same freehold, and they settle on the idea of all living there until the issue is sorted (would fit your political focus).

The characters might be invited to join a cooperative freehold. Everyone can claim sanctuary if they pitch in.

It might also be that they're all in the household of the local count, vying for power, shored up against the angry commoners outside. (See 'Accordance: A Social History' for ideas, here: http://forum.theonyxpath.com/f...nce-a-social-history.)

Ideas for freeholds:

-a treehouse that spirals into the clouds, the branches becoming their own towers
-an underwater upside-down house that rises (descends?) on stilts from the water in a mirror realm
-a disused railway arch
-the house of a famous artist--it's surreal topography reflective of the artist's unusual style
-a riverboat
-a travelling circus, with the tent unfolding to reveal a vast interior world, and the main coach having a Tardis effect
-a disused train car
-a deserted school gymnasium
-an enchanted meadow, where the trees, flowers and mushrooms become buildings
-a disused, turn-of-the-(20th)-century cinema
-a theatre
-a shopping centre/mall
-an unfinished housing project abandoned during the financial crash

or maybe the Freehold was created as a place to meet negotiate and politic?

True. In that case, though, would they have any claim to it, or would they just have access to it? Taking Freehold as a Background means you can get some dross or Glamour from it. But if it's only a place they sometimes visit, there would presumably be others with a stronger claim to its Glamour resources.

yes having some claim to it sounds good.

Oh something that seems very in keeping with Ailil?

A winter Motiff.
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How about a zoo? An abandoned Arctic-themed zoo, full of penguins, killer whales, seals, etc. Or, at least, the chimerical versions of the same. Think of the Penguin's lair in Tim Burton's Batman.

Maybe, or Perhaps a place for figure skating?


We'll probaly see more then one freehold in play.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:19, Sun 10 July 2016.

You could figure skate there too. :P

I like this idea. Or, a related one, my knight found a trod to a forgotten freehold in the Near Dreaming. Some of you claim the freehold, while I claim the trod which allows access to it. Politics ensue.

I like that idea too.

sounds good well want to go with the Artic theme for a Freehold to start off in? (Not sure what its mundane appearance would be)

How many points would we be required to invest in it?

Hmmmn a good Freehold maybe 2 or 3 points.

Is that each, yes? I can probably tweak my concept a bit to do that. Have you seen my character sheet? I sent it by PM.

That was alltogether actually.

but Everyone having their own freehold might be good.

Sorry, I thought we were being asked to pool background points into a big freehold. But if we're pooling, I can easily contribute a Background dot towards the total.

Where should be post character sheets?

Send it to me in a PM.

Is this still happening?

yes Just need to go ahead and pick a starting location.

I'm open to suggestions. San Francisco? NYC? An invented city of your own creation?

Ok hmmmn Is a "Generic mid sized American Town" bad?

It's workable. Are the player characters the only nobles?

good question, thoughts?

Okay, I've just had an idea. Shoot me down if it's naff. But how about playing out a game set during or in the aftermath of the Accordance War, as detailed in the fan-made story, Accordance: A Social History. That gives us a setting, NPCs, a time period, and some flavour. The nobles can be rebuilding or else struggling to maintain order, but either way, it gives us a blank canvas for fae politics.

It's here, and unfinished, giving us scope to take it in whichever direction works for us: http://forum.theonyxpath.com/f...nce-a-social-history

Another idea is to set it some time after the events detailed above, but using the same setting and a few grumps loaned from the fiction. When the Second Coming brings new nobles to town (or is it the Thallain?), old tensions look like they might resurface, and the youngsters are left to deal with things.

I think there's something interesting in fae society, because there are very few elders. They either succumb to Banality or Bedlam, which means the lessons of the Accordance War might never really filter down to newly awakened nobles, whose only fae memories are of distant Arcadia rather than the Autumn World.

For instance, there were race riots here in the UK in the 70s, 80s and the 90s. Things kicked off again in the 2010s, but my home community of Chapeltown in Leeds, which has a massive Afro-Caribbean population, was one of very few areas where the rioting was pretty much nonexistent. I think maybe one car was stolen by one person. The reason? Well, elders in the community had learned, and instilled pride in their community in the younger generations. They'd made sure there were community groups and youth groups. And don't get me wrong, Chapeltown has a high crime rate, but there wasn't any rioting.

Changelings don't necessarily get that. You have kids and adolescents suddenly awakening to the hubris of their lineage and a few fuzzy memories of past lives. There's no one to say, 'We don't do this, because it ended badly last time.' And the sidhe are basically waking to a new culture where they have very few ties. I'm actually surprised more fae don't find themselves repeating these mistakes over and over again. Especially the sidhe, who've mostly got a very short collective memory of life in the Autumn World. Excepting Autumn sidhe, they've been here since 1969, tops, and might not ever reincarnate because of the way they claim mortal bodies.

Anyway,that kinda went off on a tangent.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:00, Tue 16 Aug 2016.

checking in I do want to do this guys... sorry for the hiatus...

am here Got another Word of interest.

am still here just got back from grand masquerade.

Also still here. I think this game has a lot of potential if we can get it off the ground.

I'm still game but how can we move forward?

Kingjawa Needs to create a CS for one thing...

Will we start with out current players?

sure lets get it rolling

Would like to start action at a PC's Freehold if that sounds good.

anyone else about ready to join in?

just got two Expressions of interest.

Just wanted to say I am back, gah I had a bit of an issue with a terrible room mate and lack of internet or phone due to it.

Yay! Can't wait to get some new players. The High King and I have been keeping the balefire burning just in case someone wandered along . . . It's kinda heard to run an eldritch Unseelie sorceress noble without anyone to scheme with/against. ;)

Is there any way to get the PCs together again?

I dont think its that big a leap, to assume that a member of house Ailil would pay a social call to house Eilund.

hi wanted to let you guys know my internet is currently out, a problem with the ISP

Okay. Have you got it up and running yet?

back up 3 days now  sorry I didnt tell you all.

Great. Can we start a new scene with everyone together, perhaps?

ygraine you still here?

Ygraine?

the Ailil, who was on here too?

Sorry, I've been sick. I didn't mean to disappear.

glad were all here thought up some more ideas I think you may like.

Very cool. I look forward to seeing them.

In reply to High King (msg # 72):

No, I know. I was just asking if she was still around too. :P

Glad to have you back, Ygraine!

Hihi,

I've Chimerical Items 5 and am looking for ways to use it. I asked High King if I could have a Harley that's got the Chimerical aspect of a clockwork horse? As the Chimerical Equiptment list shows that high dot chimerical items could have magical powers, so I was also wondering if maybe it could fly via windrunner.

I'm opening this up to everyone. Does this sound ok?
1st - the harley/chimeral clockwork hore
2nd - that it can fly as a 5 point chimerical item

Thanks for reading this :)

All hail Emperor  Donald the I!!! All hail!

And the mass migration to Canada begins!

too bad I have MS or else I'd join them!

as it is I cant work.

All jokes aside, I'm sorry to hear that. Both of those things, really.

Quick question, in the game, do you want me to reply to Elizabeth or wait until the Duke replies to Ygraine's request?

no did a quick post.

now you can reply.

Elizibeth were waiting on you.

The rules were always conflicting when it comes to Chimera and Treasures. At times, a Treasure was anything with an equivalent Arts rating. At other times, it was an item with a chimerical and physical presence. Chimera meanwhile seems to relate, when speaking of chimerical items, to equipment that's chimerical only and probably doesn't have any special powers. However, sometimes the rules flat out ignored this and confused it with Treasure, except for the fact Chimera have no physical presence (although, again, this was sometimes contradicted too).

Here's how I've always ruled it:

Chimera/Chimerical Item:
As per the corebook, this denotes the highest level of chimerical equipment you have. So if you have Chimera 2, you can take a number of chimerical items, so long as none of them exceeds the two dot rating. As a guide, I've always ruled that chimerical weapons, for instance, do Strength + Chimera rating in damage. For firearms, I've had BB guns for the first level (causing bashing only), and then gone up the scale.

If you need a limit to stop people claiming 100 items all at level two, you could limit the total number of points for such items to the equivalent number of 'Chimera Creation Points' for making a chimerical companion or the level of Chimera squared if that's too high

Treasure:
This is the easiest. The Treasure rating is equivalent to the Art rating it mimics. Treasures are supposed to be infused with one or more applications of an Art, although the books gave them all kinds of effects that had no analogue in the Arts.

Your Harley/Pegasus sounds more like a level five Treasure. I'd write Treasure: Harley Pegasus (Wayfare 5/Wind Runner). That means any chimerical weapons or armour would need to be covered separately by the Chimera Background at the equivalent level (Chimera 2 should cover a sword, +2 armour dice and a shield).

Hope that helps!

I'll reply now. I'm on UK time, so it's night for you when it's morning for me

And I'm so sorry for what's happening over there right now. I feel your pain. We had Brexit, after all...
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been suspended from posting in wanted players... need to remind me can only post there 3 times a day its been almost a week and gotten not a word from the admin in reply to my Rmail.

Elizabeth, sorry for hitting you with my big post as a private message. I clicked your name by accident before posting it to the thread.

Oh, hihi Adrian Dupont :)

hello. so my working concept is a sidhe of house Gwydion, but the GM is concerned about the possibility of character conflicts, i could just as easily by from house Ailil.  Any thoughts Ygraine?

In reply to Adrian Dupont (msg # 90):

First off, welcome to the game, Adrian, and thanks for being willing to hash out things before bringing in your character.

That being said, honestly, I'm super cool with there being a player character Gwydion. I'm all for some inter character tension and conflict, it can add to the Drama of the game. I'd just ask that you not bring in a Gwydion whose out to mount every Ailil head on a pike because they piddled in his dojo after killing his master kind of hater. You've probably seen how I play Ygraine and she's an oddly honorable sort of Ailil who can get along with just about anyone.

If you're up for it, perhaps we can talk about something of a past between my character and yours. She has a powerful Gwydion enemy which could open some door for us. Perhaps it could be a 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend...' kind of thing. If, say, the Gwydion she wronged wronged your character somehow... I've oodles of ideas... one of our characters could have saved the other's life so a debt exists between them... they could be rivals on the tourney circuit determined no one would best the other but them... the possibilities are endless, really.

Tell me what you think, Adrian :) I look forward to seeing you in game.

This is my working concept,  Im very unfamiliar with 2e changeling, and have started re-reading the books (although i am familiar with whitewolf in general, especially vampire) so any cool soap opera style interactions can be alot of fun.  This should help with some good shared acquaintances and back story.

An up and coming Venture Capitalist, Mover and Shaker, Fixer.

Adrian Dupont should have had everything.  His family name was well known, respected and fabulously wealthy.  The truth was much different.  He was the unwanted son of a prom night tryst fueled with drunken lies of love forever.  When his mother found out she was pregnant, his father wanted nothing to do with her.  His fathers family, the Dupont's had enough money to buy his mothers silence and necessary signatures signing over her rights to the child.  Adrian was cared for by a nanny until he was shipped across the country to a boarding school, where he has some of his first memories.

Despite being shipped off and alone, he was quite popular and handsome.  His social skills flourished and he did remarkably well in school quickly rising to be a mover and a shaker among his fellow students.  He was the guy you came to when you had a problem that needed fixing.  Adrian was always willing to help, for a small consideration in return.  His school life was punctuated by occasional cards or gifts from his family during the major holidays, with only the most formal and unemotional platitudes scribbled on them.

After his graduation, Adrian emerged from his chrysalis, was able to claim the modest wealth that had been placed in a trust for him by his mortal family and also the gifts granted to him by virtue of being fae.  It was made clear that this middling amount of money was to see him through a college education after which he was to make his own way in the world, and best wishes.  With new worlds of possibility before him, Adrian, a Sidhe of House Gwydion struck out to make his mark.

Having always been around the wealthy and elite during his time at school, Adrian had a hunger to climb the social ladder and rub elbows with the elite.  This applied equally well to his courtly ambitions.  Using his contacts and newfound gifts he was able to extricate one of his classmates from a rather sticky and embarrassing situation and in return Adrian asked only that he be allowed to invest in a lucrative real estate venture his friends family was working on.  By the age of 25 Adrian has accumulated a number of favors and contacts in the business dealings of his city.  He is well on his way to earning his fortunes and taking his place among the cities elite.  He has designs on earning the title of Knight among his new freehold as a short term goal, climbing the social ladder to power.  And nothing less than conquering the world for his long term ambitions.

All sounds good to me.

Ooo, I love him, and have a thought. What if the Duke saddles the Ailil Baroness (whose broke as s-it) with a knight who can:
1. Has the contacts and funds to make the foster home venture a go
2. Can help her acclimated to the area/serve as her host here
3. Give him eyes and ears in Ygraine's camp

So serving as her knight is lucrative to Aidan, perhaps the Duke lays a geas on him so he can trust the Gwydion won't be 'corrupted' by the Ailil even after the Oath of Fealty and Escheat are made.

What do you think?

those are 3 brilliant reasons why we should work together.

and dont forget the unspoken #4, show you the error of you unseelie ways by close proximity to the true and correct seelie path... :D

Wow, #4 is super banal... "correct" and "true" are absolute dream killing words, G-man *giggles*

Oh, I'd another thought, perhaps they went to the same boarding school back in the day.  They could have traveled in different circles, but maybe they knew each other pre-Chrystalis? It could serve as an interesting complication to their relationship now that they're each in opposing houses...

Attending the same boarding school could be an easy way to help smooth over any potential differences, ive read the info about Ygraine, do you have any more backstory i could see to help find points of connection?  I dont know how old your character is, but we would want to make sure they are close enough in age that it would be reasonable that they knew each other during school.  also, i dont know about your character if she changed much after school, but Adrian would be very similar to how Ygraine knew him in school.

Does Yrgraine have dots in title already? my original thought was to not give Adrian any and let him earn his titles during play, but i can give him enough to get to Knight if we think that would be more appropriate.

I really like Adrian having the contacts and funds to help invest in the foster home venture, he is all about helping people make their dreams come true... for some small consideration, hardly worth mentioning really.  That would also give them a shared goal to unite behind when/if they have differences of opinion.

Also, not to be left out, Elizabeth do you have any ideas of how we could connect our characters together?  Any contacts or people important to you that might also interact with Adrian?  I was thinking of giving Adrian a business team (small retinue)that helps take care of much of the drudgery and banal activities associated with business ventures (not to mention anything else that needs doing) headed by a Kinain (more useful and in the know should special actions be needed), leaving Adrian to attend to the more important and glamorous tasks.  As is only befitting one of his station and heritage.

**RE EDIT**
If either of you have any input on helping me shape the backstory and personalities of either of my 2 retinue or 1 Kinian that could be both a point of commonality between our characters and helpful making them unique and interesting.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:59, Fri 02 Dec 2016.

Ygraine has Title 3 and Remembrance 2, giving her strong ties to the Dreaming and the Court. So Adrian working his way up the food chain, with her support, could be a fun thing to play out. So don't buy Knight unless you want to.  I agree, a bit of a shared history could be lots of fun. Honestly, I didn't focus on her earliest years, so can write anything up we want. Here's what I wrote up for the High King:

---

History
Ygraine was born Elaine Jones into privilege but didn't put much stock in it. Oh, she enjoyed being one of the IT crowd, but the popularity of a school's queen bee was somehow hollow to her. She wouldn't trade it for being at the bottom of the social ladder, but at the same time there was nothing she was doing that mattered. This ennui held her in its grip until the grief she experienced at her father's death sent her into a dark but thrilling Chrysalis. The emptiness in her heart left by his passing demanded she find that thing that made life worth living. Her Sidhe soul offered her an answer, a quest of epic proportions.  Yes, the world was Banal and without any real color, but only if she chose to accept its limitations and feeble joys. If she devoted herself to changing it, fundimentally, lived to upturn the givens and create something wild, wonderful and cleave only to her passions; well THAT would be a life worth living.

Ygraine took up that challenge and felt something old and true come over her. This fight she'd sworn to win in somewhere more real then the place lives happen in. She found herself a figure of grace, power and beauty bedecked in finery beyond her old imaginings. She felt a new, yet ancient, kind of energy flow through her as shades of the past taught her things she'd always known. Thus began her life anew amongst the Kithain.

Ygraine made a progress through the courts, looking for kindred spirits but more often finding herself in the company of small minded "Nobles" who mistook cruelty for power and petty diversions as joy. She took great pleasure in tossing stones in their glass houses and taking from them the things they mattered most. Thus she earned a few enemies, most notably Lord Edward of House Gwydion, now a Count. Were it not for her habit of throwing herself at the true dangers that threatened Kith and Kin she would not have been tolerated, instead her heroism earned her titles and the respect of those who valued deeds over posturing. She's built a small network of friends by proving herself thusly and has earned the respect of those who know her name 'despite' her House.

---

So Aidan probably knew her as one of the popular girls in school who disapeared for a year after her father's death to return and climb almost effortlessly to the top of the social ladder. She had a bit of a reputation for throwing EPIC parties, getting into wild adventures and in her senior year especially, challenging the powers that be and the schools traditions openly. Since he went through his Chrystalis after school, perhaps he never quite knew she was Sidhe, but definitely remembers her...

Yes, I love that Aidan is vital to the whole foster home venture as it helps establish the essential parts of his character and gives him a spotlight to step into.

Well, Elizabeth 'Bathsheba' Brown is an untitled Scathach. She's a wanderer looking to get away from a bad rep. Her mentor was a monster who, rumour has it, later defected to the Shadow Court. Rather than undo the damage, she just moved on and hoped to start again. Instead, she's ended up surviving as a roving soothsayer. She's tough but only dangerous when cornered. She's mostly interested in eldritch secrets and understanding the Dan, but in recent years she's begun to realise that, with her increasing age, she needs to surround herself with Glamour (and the Glamorous) to survive. In her mid-forties, she's already quite old for a grump, but has managed to stay looking youthful through her various travails

Perhaps she has been placed with Adrian to prove herself? This way, she can earn a place and settle down at long last. She'd like this idea, as her most recent scrying attempt revealed glory and wonder in this town.

So do you ladies have any further input on the idea of my two retinue?  Im a noble Sidhe after all! i think it would be smart to have them connected in some way

Retinue would be enchanted humans that help you day to day, no? Suddenly I'm seeing a Transporter like Driver/Bodyguard and a Nerdy girl ex hacker who can dig up dirt for Adrian so he knows things he 'shouldn't' be able to. How you ensure their loyalty is up to you.

I'm thinking you might want the Kinain to be your 'personal assistant' type of person as they'd have a little standing in Kithain society and could help you immensely with things without having to min max their abilities and their loyalty. Of course, that could end up being Martha...

OUCH Ygraine, you think shes a good cautionary tale I take it.

i was thinking more of how they might have some sort of a connection to Ygraine and Elizabeth specifically.  I imagine their roles, (2 helpers and a more personal assistant) to be very much inline with your ideas.  The first member of my retinue I imagine being the workhorse, he does all the drudgery that needs doing, like sorting through court records, reading all the hundreds of pages of contracts, summarizing it for me with highlights of any important paragraphs etc.  He would be well educated in law and the workings of bureaucracy, be very detail oriented and have a high threshold for tedious and mundane tasks.  My second helper will be affectionately referred to as "the mole".  She will ferret out all the important bits of information and secrets that i can use to my advantage.  She would be very skilled with computers and perhaps also with using her looks to help sway any hesitant or resistant men.  She would also take the lead on any minor negotiations or minor personal meetings on my behalf.  My personal assistant would see to the daily running of the two mortals as well as assist me with any personal matters whether banal or fae related as i see fit.

Now, how can we connect them to your gal's characters?!

The mole sounds like perfect Ailil bait to me... perhaps she's Ygraine's 2nd cousin or something. Someone Ygraine might have summered with, so they had a few adventures, but not so close that the mole's loyalty is divided. Ygraine might get her into exclusive parties and done a favor or two her when there was someone the mole couldn't get close to, basically her 'Ace in the hole'. Likewise, Ygraine might have called on her once or twice to smooth over some legal rough patch she was in or to make her a full fake identity or two when needed. So she's less then a contact, but not a stranger.

ooh thats perfect.  Maybe she was quite a bit younger than us at school.  You could be a few years older than Adrian, and Adrian could be a few years older than "her" that way you guys are connected marginally, and she might have developed her relationship with Adrian when they were still in school.  I like it.

Now we just need to connect Elizabeth somehow.. or do we? Maybe she did a reading for my Kinain? hmm...
This message was last edited by the player at 07:42, Thu 08 Dec 2016.

How old is Aidan... I have Ygraine as 22 'old' for a wilder but not grump yet. I could make her older or just say she spent time in the dreaming so is 'older' but not physically so.

Stray thought... what if post her Chrystalis but before his, Ygraine was Aidan's 'first kiss'. In some way I envisioned a scene where they struck a bargain and an Oath was taken... her favor to catapult him to the top of the school's social ladder in exchange for his support for her efforts in the future... putting a bit of a twist of fate in this second meeting of theirs.

i had him as ~25 old enough to have started been building his fortunes, but still pretty young. She changed before he did though, so she easily could have spent more time in the dreaming than him, or i can just nock him down a few years, maybe ill make him 22, and you can be 23, say a year older than him at school.

i think how we have connected them so far is really good, anything else or any further oaths i think would be better roleplayed as we become partners in the School project.

It could be interesting if he was older then her 'now' ... and actually, there's another reason behind that mystery, now that I think of it. So, if it's fine with you, Aidan can be twenty five while Ygraine is twenty two.

Dropping the old Oath kiss thing is fine. Nini, I have to get some sleep.

well if there is no other input *looks at Elizabeth* then I think I have enough to finish my character creation? ST?

Sounds like a plan, Adrian, as you're pretty much cued up to be introduced to us in game :)

gm asked me to get more input on retinue, which you were very good with, not sure if it is enough or I have to wait for Elizabeth as well. so I'm just waiting for confirmation from either person lol

Is the Duke asking that of Bathseba or Ygraine?

DAMNIT...


Martha was asking it.

Of whom? Ygraine?

yes sorry.

i have yet to receive any kind of information regarding whether i should be doing anything yet, and i have asked multiple times.  I appreciate what little time we have had, im sorry we didnt get to play together more fully Ygraine.  Best of luck

sorry adriane

sorry everyone else im having trouble focusing enough.

Oh, I hope you feel better soon, High King.

Btw, I hope you don't mind Ygraine's habit of team building. She sees the value in sharing a campaign to take strangers and turn them into comrades in arms. Plus, the idea of having the Lost Boys help with getting the bad momma to straighten up her act was too deliciously Grimms Fairy Tales to resist as an impulse.

adrianne sorry for missing your posts, we could go with you visiting the dukes court, to give you a quick meeting with the others.

Merry Christmas, everyone!

Here's where I'm at with RL:

The novel was interrupted for three weeks as I had to put together an entire magazine for the charity I volunteer for. Basically, I had to chase a bunch of people, rewrite everything (people were submitting 2000-word articles for 600-word slots), find images of lots of dead people (often photographed by other dead people) and juggle lots of 'expectations'.

I'm currently on the second editing pass of the novel. Need to smooth out a couple of things, write a couple of scenes to clarify and bridge specific sections, and then give it another editing pass before sending it to beta readers.

However, I should now have more time for play.

hi everyone im going to bump the players wanted thread

is their any objection if I decide to move to anniversary edition