Since it seems that the leader role is filled, I'm open to playing either a dragonborn sorcerer or a defender (pally or fighter).  The sorcerer is already made, but I'm happy to be flexible since I would find any class/role fun :)

Shamans tend to kinda be Leader/Controller hybrids with more defensive buffs/healing than offensive buffs/action granting, so if your Leader does more of the latter and that was your first choice, I say go for it! Of course ultimately it's up to you, since most of the party slots are still unfilled. :)

I'd only go TacLord to use you (the Barbarian) as my beat stick!  But TacLords are also more buff and control based leaders with their extra movement granting abilities so it might not be the best.

Edit - what type of barb are you going to play?
This message was last edited by the player at 21:45, Thu 10 Nov 2016.

Rageblood chargefest! Maybe run it by Kbenjar, but I would love having both a Shaman and a Taclord, and I don't think there would be too much functional overlap. I don't know Shamans as well but IIRC they do more healing, save- and temp hp-granting, and enemy debuffing. I have played a Taclord though, and I would have LOVED picking Taclord powers knowing there was a primary healer in the party.

BTW the standard array is 16, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, right? It's been so long since I didn't use point buy lol.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:01, Thu 10 Nov 2016.

I'm going to go Paladin or Fighter.  Depending on if another player comes in wanting to play a defender, I can spec to 2-handed and go more damage based.

We are now five.
The roster is, to aid Malph:
- Warlock/Paladin MC
- Barbarian Rageblood
- Protector Shaman(with focus on healing as I read it)
- Likely a melee striker(a rogue it seems).
- Malph, likely a fighter or Paladin, unless he resorts to his Taclord idea(having both a rogue and barbarian to play with...)

Naturally this is all meta, but to aid Malph in selecting this would be of much use.
The selected players should prove to add much to the game; The names behind have to me, as a regular browser here, quite a proven resume so I am both thankful and excited.

That said, I am considering that this is the team, if you lot are ok with it. If you need a sixth man, a controller perhaps, then I have five players in the mix to select from, but for 4e, the addition of going from 5->6 isn't always smooth. It depends largely on involvement and posting rate I have experienced; A sixth active can keep the flow running, but may not be needed normally.

Shortly, I will let you lot decide, for otherwise, we have our team and one I am happy with.
This message was last edited by the GM at 09:13, Fri 11 Nov 2016.

To the above - our shaman is offering to go with a controller class, leaving the leader spot open. Hence, I have to ask if anyone wishes to take the reins, perhaps taking the tac lord into play.

Also I made a mistake. Warfryn is actually MC paladin, not cleric!

Hey guys, I am currently a shaman and am super keen to play the leader role, but I don't feel like playing one of multiple leaders in a party of just five. If Malphurious is desperate to take a leader class then I would switch to a controller to make way for him. But as of right now I am definitely a shaman, and fairly healer-heavy to boot.

Malph, if you do decide on defender but are still tossing up between fighter and paladin, if it makes any difference to you I intend to invest heavily in healing abilities all the way through, along with several neat buffs - assuming I survive. Just in case it means something to you vis a vis paladin healing abilities, etc, in so far as you may not need them (if I'm doing my job!).

From a meta standpoint, if the warlock is fey and I go fighter, we could have enough control...though we may be lacking in the AOe/minion clearing department.

That said, if a party has a barb, a rogue, and a fighter,  the best leader is a warlord just to keep the troops swinging and in CA.  The taclord would also at some control to mitigate the lack of controller.

Still happy to take on the defender role, just making sure everyone settles exactly so I can pick the right classes to complement everyone.

Edit - what controller type would you go...Druid?
This message was last edited by the player at 12:45, Fri 11 Nov 2016.

I think we'll be fine with a Shaman as our sole Leader. I'm more worried about us being very melee-heavy and lacking AoE.

maybe Sorcerer instead of rogue if he's open to any type of DPT?  the barb and warlock are single target strikers, the spec would balance it out a lot better.

As of now, I'm going to go flail fighter for those lovely slides/prones and great single target lockdown.

Agreed Malph.  I was thinking we have too much melee and need perhaps a ranged instead.

I'd be willing to switch to Sorcerer, Storm perhaps to give us both Ranged and some AoE.

DM just clarified via PM that we can use 22 point buy, so if you want to play a class with two primary ability scores you can do so without being at a disadvantage.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:51, Fri 11 Nov 2016.

Over-emphasis on melee can work, if in a warlord lead party.  That said, I think we can get away without a dedicated controller as we will parse out the controller responsibilities.

Sorcerer = AOE/trash clearning
Fighter (with flail) = status effects/single target lockdown
Warlock (if fey) = can debuff targets

But yeah, I think thats enough to lock me in for fighter.  I'll start working on it tonight.  I spent most of my time researching paladins.

While I do not advise on min-maxing, I find the old Wizards handbooks on classes serve to aid in both teaching and highlighting the intricacies of a given glass.
This might aid you(you properly know it already):
http://www.enworld.org/forum/s...ook-(By-lorduskblade)

In reply to Storyteller (msg # 18):

Already on it!  Not that its so much a guide to min/maxing, just putting all the info in one place to digest it.

Oh hey I know we don't have anyone here playing a Seeker, but I wrote the CharOp Seeker Handbook if anybody's ever read that one!

Guilty as charged. Tidal Spirit Shot or bust!

I used to hang out a lot in the 4e CharOp IRC channel and LDB and all those guys helped me workshop the Seeker handbook and my Dirty Harry Seeker|Ranger Controller before Dragon 413 came out. The guy who wrote that dragon article actually workshopped it with me first, asking questions about which Seeker levels needed the most help, what kind of control they lacked, etc. He was basically inspired by evangelical zeal for Feyjump Shot lol. I'm very proud of the impact I had and I don't usually find other players who still care enough about 4e to bother telling them about this stuff hahaha.

I'm willing to play a rogue if that is what would tactically work best.

I'll wait a day or two to see what the group think decides on.

Oh here's that seeker|ranger hybrid controller I was talking about, since you guys probably don't know what I'm talking about haha. http://www.enworld.org/forum/s...ailies-(by-WEContact)

The sorcerer is probably better suited for the group as per my explanation above on how we are parsing out the controller mechanics.  3 single target strikers could be good, but again they wouldn't get as much benefit without a warlord leader.

So it all sounds good, I'll stick with my shaman then. Glad to hear you're taking a fighter, Malphurious. My first 4e character when the edition was released was a fighter (omg when was that?). All those pushes and pulls and slides, we always seemed to be able to get the enemy in exactly the right spot.

Should I go Goliath for extra resist and HP or Dragonborn and go Dragonfear power for he mass debuff of close burst 5 -2 to attack rolls and grant CA until EoNT?

Warfryn is a fey pact warlock intending to go with a lot of debuffing powers.  His paladin side will be a bit of a slow burn, starting with Divine Challenge and eventually getting on to Powers like Wrath of the Gods.  He gets more Paladinny from 11th level (if we ever get that far)